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That's right
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it hurts so fucking much all this bullshit is just trapped inside of me
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>>7927648
The oversized, overpriced tablet for his skill level (along with an expensive stand) really completes the picture
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i just captured and saved this same screenshot this morning and just about posted it here. lots of lols to being twinned by op.
it hurts, oh yes
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If it's any consolation your ideas are probably shit too, you're just not cultivated enough to realize it.
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>>7927648
There's no skill to drawing. You just draw -> undo -> draw -> undo until something looks right.
It takes forever but eventually you'll realize your vision, which is better than moaning and whining on Twitter.
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>>7927846
beg giving advice moment
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>>7927847
Shut the fuck up, crab
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>>7927851
its not crabbing, it's real. Imagine someone who can barely kick saying that there's no skill to football.
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>>7927847
200 IQ pro here, he's right.
Generally the more experience you have, the fewer tries it takes, but we use iteration all the time, and I'd say it's one of the major things that separate pros from amateurs. The willingness and work ethic to just keep trying until you get it right.
Ever ask a beg to redraw their piece and get nothing but silence in response? Yeah. That's it.
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>>7927853
>200 IQ pro here
you gonna attest to that statement or just say whatever and hope people just believe you.
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>>7927854
We established that earlier, and it was left uncontested. I ain't gonna attest to nothing.
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>>7927856
so you're just saying random shit, got it.
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>>7927847
nodraw not posting his work moment
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>>7927847
I noticed how you didn't have a counterpoint.
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>>7927846
Nodraws been real quiet since this dropped
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>>7927961
>I noticed how you didn't have a counterpoint.

NTA but I agree with him so I'll give one.
>>7927846
>You just draw -> undo -> draw -> undo until something looks right.

This is true in the same way "Just draw" or "a calorie is a calorie" is true. It's so simplified it's borderline useless advice, and has tons of pit falls. Like if you don't have a process (specifically one that figures out the proportions and the pose first) you may spend ages fixing up mistakes made in the drafting stage same with values/color, you're just making drawing harder and longer than it needs to be meanwhile if you just followed a process that solves problems before hand it's easy street. It's like cutting a lawn using scissors while other people use mowers.

>There's no skill to drawing
The skill is your draftsmanship getting shapes correct, while keeping the composition in mind, not being sucked into details before you find the proportions of a figure, keeping things simplistic as you build up your values and colors and adhering to a hierarchy and a beg wouldn't know that because they do not have the experience, they immediately give in to the temptation and are pissy when their drawing looks like shit.
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>>7927997
If you won’t post your work why don’t you red line him? What exactly is he doing “wrong?”
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>>7927997
That's fair, but I'd argue the doing art is inherently an act of refining process and I don't think people leave that point out to crab. It's just so obvious to some people that it doesn't seem to bear mentioning. Imagine I said "just draw" and someone's response was "ok, but you didn't tell them to put the pencil tip to the paper". I'm not even trying to be a douche, it's just hard to wrap my head around someone not going into a drawing with the idea that it's an experiment where they're learning what works, what doesn't, what to keep, and what to discard.
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>>7927684
what a retarded thing to say
there's no point in buying a cheap thing if you're just going to upgrade it, the only exception being that you literally can't afford the more expensive option, it's cheaper in the long-run to just start with something good
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>>7927997
>This is true in the same way "Just draw" or "a calorie is a calorie" is true.
I'll be honest in that I deliberately made my original post reductive on purpose. OBVIOUSLY you need some skill to execute an idea. But the entire point I was going for is that executing a particular drawing is oftentimes not actually about drawing skill, but rather it's about overcoming a mental block. Like perceiving a huge mountain to climb when in reality it's just a series of small hills. That "skill" really has nothing to do with drawing at all; it's an entirely different kind of discipline. So to sum it up, my point is that people overestimate how much skill drawing actually takes, when in reality, drawing requires persistence.
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>>7927852
>its not crabbing, it's real. Imagine someone who can barely kick saying that there's no skill to football.
except they'd be right. your sentiment only works if it wasn't common sense. like if someone who can't do surgery tried to say connecting nerves or blood vessels is easy. meanwhile drawing takes zero physical/mental effort, has zero risks to it, and all the knowledge is freely available. the only barrier to entry is realizing you don't really wanna draw, you just want to larp.
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>>7927648
>popular, skilled, rich artist with a big following complaining about not being popular, skilled or famous
oh, yes... tell me about your imaginary struggles for likes, artist...
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>>7928326
But your illustrations look like shit though, opinion discarded
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>>7927847
>>7929294
>no work posted
I'm going to assume that you aren't even half their power level, so your opinion is discarded by default.
>inb4 I cannot post my work because I work at Marvel and DC and my life would be over if they found out I shitpost on 4chan
sure buddy, sure.



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