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Can this level be achieved naturally (without 1-in-1000 talent)?
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>>7929901
No and it's not really worth it. It didn't really enhance the story of Berserk in any way and Miura really should've just gone into illustrations.
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>>7929901
Nope
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>>7929904
How did it not? I only kept reading the manga after the first half because the art was really good.
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>>7929904
it definitely enhanced the experience*, he should've just gotten more assistants

*not op pic, the parts when the art was still good
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>>7929904
>No and it's not really worth it. It didn't really enhance the story of Berserk in any way
That I agree with, it was a waste of time and everyone was waiting years until they got off of that boat. I think that was one of DochebagChocolat's last vids.
>Miura really should've just gone into illustrations.
Berserk is an amazing story that a lot of people connects to, at first you read it for the edginess then you read it for the metaphor of Trauma and how to move on from those burdens. Just today I realized I cannot go all out like I used to when I was younger then I thought of picrel (though I'm sure it said let your conviction be your pivot mandela effect, idk) now I see the berserker Armor is kind of a metaphor for getting older and not letting your passions Engulf you for it will have consequences.

If he moved on we wouldn't have that beauty and socially inept nerds like me wouldn't understand what I'm doing to myself.
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>>7929904
>>7929919
How can you say that with so much conviction? Are you actual artists or just some random shitposters? If it's the former, care to show proof of it?
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>>7929952
The ability to draw something like the OP takes loads of talent and thousands upon thousands of hours of practice. I don't think I need to prove it. It's self-evident. That doesn't mean you shouldn't try.
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>>7929927
>>7929930
The story meandered and devolved into nothing as it constantly relied on the artwork and the shock factor. It's clear he began to lose interest in the story and simply should've just made an art gallery.
>>7929946
It did mellow down to the end, and honestly I think it's way less cartoonishly edgy. It's also barely a plot at that point. He should've made a shift to slice of life much sooner if he actually cared. Berserk's strongest points have almost nothing to do with the plot.
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>>7929904
>>7929901
you can tell that these illustrations consumed his entire life almost, just form into render, over and over. there was definitely a point in berserk where miura made the story take a backseat to what he wanted to draw that week. He made a good portion of the manga as a kid (20-30) and grew away from the more serious elements and instead treated those sections with increasing ridiculousness, probably jumping the shark in that regard somewhere around rape horse.
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No, I'd agree with Anon 7929904, but with a different explanation; the technique is crosshatching and some ink is used - but if you only count the strokes made it's very obviously a shitload of work.
Take the one fish on the bottom or any other; the repetiously used gridlines follow and define the form. Were they get tighter and thicker its were the more darker areas are. If that's not enough - ink is used. He seems to got his inspiration from older botanical and seacreature illustrations...
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>>7929901
It's called hatching and it's more about hard work and patience than "talent"
If you removed the renderfaggotry you'd find the actual drawings here are a bit awkward actually
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>>7930380
Care to redline em?
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>>7929904
First post worst post
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>>7930380
You could have traced 1 (one) form to prove your point but you didn’t. Not only are you retarded but you are also lazy.
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>>7929901
this garbage? yes, obviously.
in a week!
A week of someone who teaches what exactly truly to do, not "how to learn to learn it on your own as all people in drawthreads here do"
and each day, multiple tasks that take OVER 5 HOURS! EACH!

t. (i dont know what t means) permaprebegschizo
##what do i see? i see lines that are drawn around the creatures and on their bodies. extremely cheap
what i also see are details that seem unrealistic and excessive, rather then non-made-up!
now, the forms are complicated. but they are all mechanics that can be taught in a few days with the right mentor, especially "the lines around the forms" and "the animals".
eyes and nets and mouths can also be drawn easily
cheap anime face (author is seemingly drawing garbage), and cheap meaningless "armor, action, sword, excess drawing". this is literally hype fiction in its form. it is designed to look "impressive". it should not exist. it is bad.
shades are more complicated, as are composition stuff. but still learnable in 4 days
i believe in my words, i never post bait
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>>7929901
You would need to climb a metaphysical mountain
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>>7930632
But it looks cool
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>>7929901
Watch this 1000 times

https://youtu.be/-_iD65xTvqU?si=oX4dwiaeWnBVt4Xr
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>>7930883
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i dont think it should look cool. draw like a child, or like a realistic drawing. cool? a waste of time- a lie. how warped will the worldview be, how wasted the time, and how hurt the imagination, after seeing false "dopamine inducing" fiction. where is the difference between wanting "cool" and wanting "social media/gaming"? wanting "cool" is less regarded as an addiction or morally wrong deed, even though it is!
(and therefore this art is not that good and partially immoral)
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>>7929901
As a hopeless beg who literally just started taking the grind seriously (enrolled into an art class, doing daily grinds) and having read some of the techniques used in that panel, I say yes, you can realistically achieve that in a relatively short term goal. Maybe 3-4 years if you REALLY slack off.
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>>7929904
I disagree. One of Beserk's legacies is how good the art is, and I think its highly polished rendering better presents the stakes and grimness of the world. I doubt Beserk would be as fondly remembered, or as popular, were it not for the art - not that I'm dismissing the story or whatever.

Can you say more with less? Sure. Is that method best suited for every story? No. I think something that's intended to feel 'epic' needs to have art to match; something that gives you a bit of a feeling of awe, for example.
Besides, if everyone gave a more minimalist approach, it'd make the art for everything feel samey.
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>>7930939
retard
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>it should not exist.
>>7930632 (you) should not exist
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7930939
7930632
Take your meds schizo
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>>7930939
also, berserk is the type of manga that the parents warned about. That society, at least the good and christian parts, were righteously against, and which has a lot of bad influence, and false advertising, making people hyped and liking it. It is evil, like other media (warhammer, warcraft, almost all anime, and so on). I am glad i avoided trying to become immersed or to truly learn much about it. Grimshart indeed in some ways. And "generic and small scope of events" as well, truly. "Masterpiece" i could create much better things then this. And pure of all of the garbage as well! Dont adore this false makeup-garbage. It's ugly at it's core, not just "the setting", but the whole internal origin of what is improved by looking or feeling good. Next you "know betters" will tell me french art is good and france is the leading example of art development. Bah
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>>7931075
kys
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>>7931095
i respond by saying that the lies and the repetition of all of this evil is meaningless. And bad. and that anybody uncertain of your truthfullness should remind himself that the universal hostility coming from 4chan is not to be trusted (why trust hostility anyways). Going by roman morals, the hostile "4channers" should not be trusted anyways. I will never assimilate to be "a bot".
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