>>7931690
There are tons of answers to this question on this board already, but I'll tell you anyway.
It does not matter if you buy all the art books in the world, or watch all the tutorials that exist, if you do not sit the fuck down and just draw.

You need to just take a pen or pencil, sit your ass down, and draw on the paper.
It's gonna suck. It's not going to be a masterpiece. It's not going to look good. It's not supposed to. No one is going to see or care about these doodles. You won't put them in your portfolio. You just need to get into the habit of actually putting pen to paper.
If you want to be a pro weight lifter you don't expect to lift huge weights as a beginner. You don't have technique or enough muscles yet.
You start by making a habit of going to the gym. And you will have to go to the gym a lot and often before you are ready to even try the heavy stuff.

From now on, draw once every day. Just 10 minutes. Shoddy circles, lines, cubes or just random doodles.
And don't make any excuses. You DO have 10 minutes a day. Tip: do it first thing in the morning. Wake up -> draw 10 minutes. Every time.
When you have done this for a week you increase it to 20 minutes. After a week more you increase it again. Keep increasing it.
After a month of doing this every day you will have formed a habit, and it will feel weird NOT drawing in the morning.

THEN you can use tutorials and books to gain knowledge (but you must actually APPLY that knowledge by drawing it).

Go form that habit, Anon. I did. Tens of thousands of others have. You can too. You are no different.
JUST FUCKING DRAW!

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>>7931751
Yeah I can see that building a habit like that wouldn't be a bad idea. 10 minutes is pretty doable. However without having any idea what I'm doing or any purpose to it, or any idea or guidance for how to get better, I imagine it would feel a bit pointless before long.

Looking at my notes someone once suggested me taking a course from https://vitruvianstudio.com/about-online-art-courses/. I can imagine something like that would be pretty helpful especially for someone like me who's not much of a self starter but the price is pretty steep.

I'll say the idea that inspires me the most is drawing landscapes however it would take a long time to reach the point of being good at something like that, and perhaps part of what makes it daunting to even start is the thought of how long it would take to get there and imagining that it wouldn't be enjoyable until I reached that point. I can recognise that's possible to enjoy it well before then.

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>>7931751
So, I have to start all over again? And how much longer do I have to do this? Another 600 hours of "fun"?

>>7931788
It takes a lot of time no matter what you want and no matter what you do. There isn't a magical book or course that will get you on pro level overnight. It's why so many people like the anon above just tell you to fucking start drawing.

It doesn't matter if it looks beg as fuck, just fucking draw, both quick doodles, as well as attempts at finished pieces, even when they look like explosive diarrhea, just push through and finish that shit.
Having a finished drawing, no matter its quality, gives you a baseline to go from. All you need to worry about is your next one being slightly less shitty and you'll be well on your path. It starts to become enjoyable rather quick, because if you are consistent you'll improve like crazy in the first 2-3 months, so you are constantly getting the feel of "wow, my previous drawing was some atrocious shit, this one's a masterpiece in comparison".

So yeah, fucking draw whatever you wanna draw. ALWAYS use reference. Break down the reference. For example, since you want to learn landscapes, when drawing a tree use a photo of a tree, and as you observe/copy it, take mental or written notes. "Oh, I see, branches start to split about half up the trunk" "ah, branches tend to bend at this angle" "leaves grow from branches at these points" etc. Also find art you like and copy it while asking similar questions. How did they simplify and stylize trees? Did they keep few branches or a lot? Did they draw every single leaf, or did they just make some vague general foliage?

Do this for a few months and you'll see nothing but growth. When you feel like you are stagnating is when you pick up relevant learning resources.

he needs permission to draw what he thinks he needs to want
he is that retarded
ignore the thread

>>7931796
good advice thanks

>>7931690
first step is to learn to see, and reproduce what you see using some simple tools, such a a few pencils and an eraser. then you're equipped to start learning actual art.

like a cook needs to learn how to select and prepare ingredients, or handle his tools.

then, bear in mind that to be well-rounded enough, you need a few thousands hours of intelligent practice. 10min a day is about 1h a week. that's about 60h a year. you'll get essentially nowhere with it.

3h a day for a year, every single day, brings you to about 1k hour. within 3 to 5 year you should be able to get somewhat good.

let's assume people in art school practice 7h a day for 3 years. that's about 7.5kh. now that's getting close to what you actually need to start producing something valuable.

>>7931822
I agree that more time = more improvement, but le 10k hour meme is just that, a meme estimate. With about 1k hours (or maybe even less) you can get on a level that impresses most normies and convinces them to comission you. You won't be at a level where companies will hire you, but can start to get your footing. 3-5k is plenty to get hired in a lot of places.
Also, if that anon begins trying 3h daily every day they'll burn out before the end of May. It's fine to start with 10-15 mins, and raise it every other week. When I began, drawing even 30 mins caused my hand to cramp real bad and need 3-4 days of rest before it stopped hurting, now I can do 4h+ and feel nothing. You need to ease into it.

>>7931826
>With about 1k hours (or maybe even less) you can get on a level that impresses most normies and convinces them to comission you.

Bullshit. I have been drawing for 3000 hours over these 6 years and no results >>7931795

>>7931795
Anon, no..
If you already have the habit of drawing then you already have it.
And don't draw the exact same shit over and over. That will only teach you that.

1. Form habit (skip if you already have the habit).
2. Pick something to draw (and find references).
3. Draw it to completion. Finish that shit. It does not matter if it sucks.
4. Analyze. Figure out what you can improve. Pick ONE thing (like proportions, perspective, face placement etc).
5. Study that one thing, and only that, until you feel like you have discovered something ("Ah! It works like this!").
6. Go back to step 2, but pick something where you can apply your discovery.

Draw -> Analyze -> Study -> Discover -> Apply

>>7931826
>but le 10k hour meme is just that, a meme estimate
yup, that's why I settled on
> to be well-rounded enough, a few thousands hours of intelligent practice

like, in ateliers or serious art schools, you'll work between 5k/10k during the curriculum. you aren't expert by then, but the skillset acquired is vast enough, and focused enough, so that you can actually start creating useful stuff. that's what I meant by "well-rounded enough".

focusing 1k hours on something like graphite with an increased difficulty of subject will already get you some good skills at drawing with graphite, definitely agreed.

>>7931842
you're doing it wrong though. if you make no progress, then you have to ask yourself, "am I doing something wrong?"

like, from one session to another, you should tell yourself things like:

> here's what I did correctly last time. I should keep doing this, when relevant
> here's what I did wrong last time. how can I _not_ do this again this time?
> oh, I've been stagnating lately, perhaps I need to do something else
> I have no motivation and feel terrible. maybe I need to draw flowers and landscapes instead of prostitutes

when you learn on your own, there are no teacher to guide you, so you have to work harder, smarter.

> to be well-rounded enough, you need a few thousands hours of _intelligent_ practice

>>7931798
Its infuriating. Especially the people responding with giant paragraphs. It reminds me of the reddit posts where some fat fuck posts a picture of his bed "Finally got the motivation to clean, it ain't much but its a start." 50 thousand upvotes. Pathetic losers