yes, and buy an ad

BUY A FUCKING AD, PIKAT

>>7932838
Yes, i like the competition

>>7932838
Pikat joined YouTube in 2010. On the very low end has to be at least 30. Why she still draw herself as a little girl

>>7932838
It's already more fun than vidya for me

>>7932847
you know women can be short right

>>7932850
waffles?

>>7932847
she's primarily a vtuber, right? i'd wager at least 90% of the audience for vtubers are pedophiles, so it's just good business sense to cater to pedos if you want to be a popular vtuber.

>>7932850
you're either 15 years old or being willfully obtuse if you can't interpret those proportions as child-like rather than just having a short stature.

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>>7932856
>>7932881
>child
look, i dont like here either, but are we sure we have eyes.

>>7932881
>those proportions as child-like rather than just having a short stature.
To me it's just a cartoon character.
I don't mean that as in 'oh, it's fine because the little girl is a cartoon', I mean it as in; I don't see it as a child, but a stylised humanoid figure, that based on the context is an adult. It is neither adult or child like enough to definitively say what the character is, until the further context is added.
That's how I honestly see a lot of anime characters - their designs are so nebulous that I can't really interpret what the age of the character is meant to be until I see them in their actual context.

>>7932888
That's a little disingenuous, because that's not how she regularly portrays her character. She usually has a more 'chibi' look that's about 2/3 heads (or so) tall.

>>7932838
I don't really enjoy video games all that much anymore. They are either too easy and boring, or they are too hard and frustrating. When you play the regular casual games, you fall asleep. When you play hard games you have to restart over and over again, or play against some freaks who played the game for decades. You just don't get anywhere with videogames. Even Daigo, who played Street Fighter all this life, still loses against some random fat zoomer mutt. It's just not worth it.

With drawing you actually make constant progress. Plus you always get a nice artifact at the end you can look back at any time you want.

>>7932894
>disingenuous
>it's her own art of her oc
what are we even saying anymore

>>7932838
Definitely. You just need to improve and realize you are improving.

>>7932894
>That's a little disingenuous, because that's not how she regularly portrays her character. She usually has a more 'chibi' look that's about 2/3 heads (or so) tall.
Chibis can be just super deformerd versions of adult too. You are completely full of shit and paranoia.

>>7932902
Anon meant posting her fashion art when her vtuber art is the one being talked about. Dumb-dumb.

>>7932909
Her vtuber is literally that character. That's her fucking concept art. Just dislike her for whatever reason you already dislike her, why do you need to make shit up when she already posts algo slop.

>>7932847
>Why she still draw herself as a little girl
Same reason I draw myself shredded as fuark.

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>>7932902
Yeah, >>7932909 nailed it.

>>7932904
>Chibis can be just super deformerd versions of adult too. You are completely full of shit and paranoia.
I think you need to read my post again, and realise how retarded you're being. Her design's vague age was my fucking overall point, dumbass.

>>7932917
>Her vtuber is literally that character.
Huh, I hadn't seen any of her videos in a while. Excuse us for not being her biggest fans and not keeping up to date with her model design changes. I was recalling her older chibi model, which you conveniently forgot to mention.

>>7932838
Yet again this bitch is to be ignored based on the drawing for the thumbnail alone.

she's cute. stay mad and envious nerds

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>>7933039
shes hag status

>>7933043
you wish you could smash that artussy.

>>7933043
>zoomoid thinks 30s is old
Time comes for us all lil bro. You'll realize once you hit your 30s nothing really matters.

>>7933055
>faillenial thinks 50s is old
>Time comes for us all lil bro. You'll realize once you hit your 50s nothing really matters.

stop clicking on these grift videos

>>7932847
If she’s 15, I’m 15, ya smell me?

>>7933059
I mean yeah, 50s isn't old either.
You zoomers age like milk though so it might be a death sentence for you.

>>7933081
50's is old as fuck.
She could have a 20-year-old grandchild.

>>7933088
50s is not old dipshit, it's young middle age at best. You need to get off of the internet or talk to real people.

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>>7932888
>>7932894
Okay I always see these posts when talking about anime designs or whatever whether its fucking /a/ or /v/ or here but come on bros it's literally just stripped from that one stock photo everyone knows about. Forgive the anon for accurately recognizing the child proportions my god

>>7933125
She uses that as her character design in different applications too >>7932993(picrel).
So reference or not, your point is mute, and the discussion is reasonable to have.

>>7933081
>>7933119
>50s isn't old either.
I can literally feel the old man dust coming through the monitor, and almost hear the impudent wheezing and hacking off in the distance.
It's fine if you're old anon, I'm not one of those people who care, and only faggots do anyway, but it comes across as desperation to cling to your youth to say that FIFTY isn't old.

>>7933148
Actually according to the science field, millennials will be the first humans in over 3000 years to live to 150 on average and by the time we are 120+ we'll live to 300 and so on, and so on.

>>7933119
What the fuck nigger? 50 is 20 years from the world life expectancy. Life expectancy would need to be over a hundred years for 50 to be the middle of your life.

>>7933170
That's cool and all, but unless they develop cheap drugs so that we don't develop paper skin, fight of brain abnormalities, live fun active life styles, and preferably remain somewhat youthful in appearance, what's the fucking point? An extra 50 years staring at a hospital's or old folks home's wall? I'd rather eat some piping hot lead.

Anyway, in the context of today; 50 is old.

these kinds of videos never actually helped me
they always seemed useful but in the end it's all fluff for a youtube video to get that ad money

i remember one guy mentioning that a youtube video has to be over 8 minutes long for it to make monetary sense so anytime i see a video over that long claiming to teach something that could've been a 3-5 minute explanation, i know it's a waste of time and never click

granted, i dont even watch youtube anymore, it just all seems like a waste of time

>>7933254
>in the end it's all fluff for a youtube video to get that ad money
how do you know that?

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>>7933257
Many points give it away.
>thumbnail designed for clicks
>title designed for clicks (even if...)
>8+ minute long video
>promoting on /ic/
>posting daily/weekly
all of these, and more, are techniques designed for making youtube a career rather than an educational resource

i get it, you want to make money while not having a job, but these are never helpful
here's the summary of the video via chatgpt:
>you wont always enjoy learning how to draw
>bad drawings are necessary
>avoid comparing yourself to social media
>enjoy the act of creating
>think of learning like exploring
>understand what you are studying
>make practice more fun

none of this is any groundbreaking information you haven't heard from the last five youtubers that already made a similar video already, it's just commoditizing art advice while providing no real take; the point is just to farm /beg/ clicks for easy money rather than specializing so you can teach something actually valuable

>>7933272
>all of these, and more, are techniques designed for making youtube a career rather than an educational resource
that's a false dichotomy. even assuming that there's 0 educational info in that particular video, the fact that they are doing different things to optimize their video, which is monetized, for the algorithm, doesn't itself mean it couldn't include meaningful, educational content. what you're point to is a heuristic at best, which isn't itself knowledge.
>i get it, you want to make money while not having a job, but these are never helpful
I have no intention of monetizing my art, let alone posting it online. I don't even know who the YouTuber is either, I'm more so interested in the argument and whether you can actually support it.
>here's the summary of the video via chatgpt
I haven't watched the video, but assuming it's accurate, you now seem to be equivocating on "fluff". earlier you said,
>they always seemed useful but in the end it's all fluff for a youtube video
meaning that there's a contradiction between something being useful and something being "fluff". now what you're saying is that
>none of this is any groundbreaking information
which is true in a sense, but that doesn't mean it isn't useful, as obviously not everyone has the same frame of reference; and even if you "know" something intuitively or have been told it before, depending on how it's (re)told to you can be itself meaningful.

>>7932881
Why do you talk like a disgusting trans person?

>>7932993
>I think you need to read my post again, and realise how retarded you're being. Her design's vague age was my fucking overall point, dumbass.
So you aren't claiming she's using child-like features in order to bring in pedos?
I'm glad we agree.

>>7933315
>So you aren't claiming she's using child-like features in order to bring in pedos?
>I'm glad we agree.
Yes, quite literally, I wasn't claiming that.
I'll accept your concession.

>>7933342
Then you were just mistaking small for child?
>I'll accept your concession.

>>7932847
My mom looked like a 20 year old when she was 30 in the 2000s. People born closer to today who live half-healthy lifestyles and have good genes should stay younger looking for even longer.

>>7932838
her pixeltuber looked better, 3D one has huge yaoi hands and she flaps them all over the place distractingly

>>7933287
I was pontificating but why would you concede here:
>even assuming that there's 0 educational info in that particular video
when your previous post was asking precisely about how I know there's "fluff" in the video?

"Fluff" is also a colloquial term, not meant to be used in some autistic semantic context. In this case, referring to things you've probably already heard of when it comes to drawing. "Don't compare yourself to social media," or "enjoy the process," or "just draw" aren't anything that needs a 9 minute video to explain. I too can spend 9 minutes talking about any of those points in an engagement-farming YouTube video, just because it MAY be useful for SOME people doesn't mean all the other points can be disregarded.

It's still as I said before:
>they always seemed useful but in the end it's all fluff for a youtube video to get that ad money

>>7932838
the only way ive become addicted to drawing is when it was as a social thing. like using an online paint chat where instead of chatting with friends/strangers i'd draw with them. drawing alone is boring and unmotivating

>>7932838
autistics can't have fun with anything, so no, it's possible for pikat and majority of other artists, but not you.

>>7932838
can you fuck off, why are you even here if you dont like drawing? you want someone to pity you?

>>7933125
steaktron
iykyk

>>7933437
Are you genuinely retarded? Here's my original post:
>>7932894
>To me it's just a cartoon character.
>I don't mean that as in 'oh, it's fine because the little girl is a cartoon', I mean it as in; I don't see it as a child, but a stylised humanoid figure, that based on the context is an adult. It is neither adult or child like enough to definitively say what the character is, until the further context is added.
>That's how I honestly see a lot of anime characters - their designs are so nebulous that I can't really interpret what the age of the character is meant to be until I see them in their actual context.
Where in that, did I call her a child? How did you interpret that as me calling her a child? And how, after telling you several times, are you still saying I thought she was a child. Stop being retarded, retard.
I'm handing back your concession, it smelt like ass anyway.

>>7933081
>I mean yeah, 50s isn't old either.
Are you mentally insane lol
fucking moron

>>7932838
what is it with Pikat that enrages /permabegs/ lmao

>>7933702
girl+popular

>>7933702
A lot of people in artists communities hate the idea of selling out or becoming mainstream, it's always been that way.
This is just /ic/'s version of that; this board hates up & coming artists who make content about that journey, or maybe it's the idea of putting a persona on the art, rather than letting the art speak for itself?

Admittedly, I also hate 'artist videos' that are about themselves, and not their actual art or creation process, but that's not really what's happening with pikat.

>>7933704
>40
>girl

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>>7933702
Cause some of these fucks cant teach worth a damn. I watched the vid and its the same fucking trite shit of "learning from your mistakes" that she repeats on and on for everyone of these clickbait videos when in reality pic related gets the idea of "drawing being fun" more across in nanoseconds. Its all about what you want to achieve god damn it

>>7932838
I find it fun and it makes the time go by fast
Sometimes I forget to eat and do other things while I'm drawing
Which is strange, since my ability to maintain attention is already degraded beyond saving

>>7933716
Would you prefer Milf?... Gilf?

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if there had been a good video game released since 2005 it might be harder but as it is drawing is way more fun than gaming once you get past the /beg/ stage

>artist youtuber
>look inside
>female
>barely any drawing
>no skill whatsoever

any artist that is pretty and good at making videos automatically sucks at art. That excludes 99% of women. Follow this rule and you'll be fine.

Don't pretend like you wouldn't kiss her labia for an @ you jelly crabs. She is living the life you dream of - drawing for fun, huge $ and positive social media reinforcement to snowball her passion for art, career growing rapidly, line of suitors in her DMs desperate for her approval. You can't stand the envy so you try to tear her down in your head.

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>>7933748
Motherfucker I dont need any @'s Im above that shit
Would kiss her labia though

>>7933748
Thats all well and good and I'm sure I wuold fuck her if I saw a picture of her, but the topic of this thread is her capacity as an artist and art resource. I only care about skill and work, while you only care about social approval and attention.

>>7932838
What does she look like in real life

>>7932838
it's like that but only once you git gud

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>>7933748
i like her avatar but i wouldn't believe anything shown or said by "famous" people
Most ecelebs are signed to talent management companies or have some sort of network doing shit to push them, it is rarely their own accomplishment. That's just normal to question someone's success if you've seen your fair share of shit.

Being envious or jealous of celebrities is just what kids, women and retarded normies do.

>>7933544
>why would you concede here:
>>even assuming that there's 0 educational info in that particular video
>when your previous post was asking precisely about how I know there's "fluff" in the video?
for the sake of the argument. my point was that video-algo optimization doesn't disallow, hypothetically, also making an educational video. so even if I were to concede that the video does have no educational content, you pointing out that the video is monetized and "algorithm-friendly" doesn't get you there.
>"Fluff" is also a colloquial term, not meant to be used in some autistic semantic context. In this case, referring to things you've probably already heard of when it comes to drawing.
I'm not saying "fluff" has some necessary, hyper-specific usage which you have to adhere to at all times, I was pointing out an equivocation. again, you first said:
>they always seemed useful but in the end it's all fluff for a youtube video
you are, effectively, saying "useful" is A and "fluff" is not A, that, at least in this case, these things cannot overlap ("I thought it was A, but it turns out it's not A"). so the reasonable conclusion is that you mean it something akin to "unhelpful", or "not useful" more directly. but then you said:
>none of this is any groundbreaking information
which is a different claim, and a different usage of "fluff". words can and are used with different meanings, some are more broad, some are more specific, I was just pointing out you were using different meanings in the same context. if all you mean is that the video isn't "groundbreaking", that's fine. I haven't watched the video, but I can take your word for it. that still doesn't mean, though, that it's not useful. it may not be useful to you, sure, but again, not everyone has the same frame of reference, not everyone is the same age, not everyone has seen the same content or gotten the same sort of advice. we're also not mindless robots who can just snap our fingers and say (1/2)

>>7933791
"oh yeah, being self-loathing is bad. I'm gonna stop that right now." so even if you "know" what to do, it can be helpful to be reminded or told in a particular way. (2/2)

pikat spend 10+ years larping as an artist without having a single clue on how to draw. Now after 20 years she's still larping as an artist without having a single clue on how to draw except now she's rich.

Incredibly fucked up, ability end meritocracy are completely dead. Zoomers are fucking retards

>>7933791
You're completely avoiding my point to argue some other semantic meaning in a colloquial context. You still haven't argued against my point that these videos are all fluff for easy money rather than their purpose being educational/useful. This is a very simple argument that you appear too autistic to understand.

>>7933833
Do we have any videos/images of her old artwork. Her YouTube channel only goes back 2 years.

>>7933842
>Her YouTube channel only goes back 2 years.

>actually deleted 12+ years of larp

grim

>>7933833
her art is good, stop being a crab

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>>7933721
gal

>>7933842
I've brought up your equivocating and also directly addressed your points by quoting them. one of the answers you gave to my question of how you know the video is "fluff" is that it shows algorithm optimization, and I already addressed how even in a charitable scenario it doesn't show that. I also granted your qualification that what you meant by "fluff" was "not groundbreaking", but stated - rightly so - that that doesn't make it not useful.
by all means, show me where I didn't address any of your points.

>>7933924
>>7933842
to add, if anything, you haven't addressed my points. all you're doing is stating I'm dodging, that's it.

>>7933188
50s isn't young, but you're a retarded brownoid
nobody cares about child mortality in your brown shithole cutting life expectancy at birth in half, in normal countries the average life expectancy for women at 50 is over 35, there's a reason everyone is pushing retirement age to 70

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>>7933059
>>7933055
>>7933081
old is whatever age you decide to no longer seek new experiences

>>7933081
50 is old, 30 is old, even 20 is old. Having said that, zoomers age poorly and don't have the mental capacity to handle aging so it's very funny to watch. But don't pretend you're young when you're not.

>>7933967
maybe I'm coping because I'm already 30 but I remember when 40 was considered old and nowadays 50 is just 'middle-age'

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>>7934004
you sound like a really annoying bitch.

>>7933851
lol

>>7934004
both were always true, retard
you were always an old fuck at 40 and you were always just middle age at 50 if you had status
ford was in his 40s in raiders of the lost ark, arnold was in his 40s in predator, stallone was almost 50 in demolition man etc

>>7934037
I mean that it feels like the average has shifted

>>7934029
she's getting paid.
whether you like it or not, she's your peer, and if you don't have the clout, career, or income to match, she's outclassing you while you claim otherwise on an anonymous IBS support forum. manage your ego before you embarrass yourself in front of someone you have actual respect for.

>>7934107
lmao

>>7934109
you'll never learn

>>7934029
pyw
(here comes the excuses)

>>7934113
Do you always have a mental breakdown when people tells you to just draw?

>>7932993
Anon discovers the existence of exaggerated proportions

God it was always kind of the case but aren't people throwing the word peso around waaaaaay too much lately?

>>7934182
lol

>>7934271
Not to derail this thread but one of the biggest news stories at the moment currently involves rich fucks being podos and getting away with it.
Even as someone who has been on this website for years I've never had to think of that shit until until the past year. Its the zeitgeist at play here

>>7934403
>one of the biggest news stories at the moment

Been going on for 200,000 years zoomtard

>>7934403
I think it goes deeper than rich people being "pedos". I don't think it's about sexual attraction. I think you're confusing elites with regular rich people. Regular ultra-wealthy folks probably are just pedos (or perverts chasing a "forbidden fruit" high) with enough cash to convince human trafficking elites to let them diddle lolis till the cows come home, but epstein and most of his droogs were occultists who likely performed rituals and mind control on "gifted" trafficked children and highborns
idk i dont really understand the point of your post. is the "zeitgeist" that pedophile is a popular buzzword right now? Because that's how it's always been. It's a common pejorative online for anyone into weebshit

>>7934416
>>7934422
Missing the forest through the trees you guys, Im just saying its no coincidence that people are using the term more when people are in general discussing it more. I mean by god forget that you guys post on the board with a dedicated /lsg/ thread for one second and consider that normies didnt have a constant stream of this topic in a 24/7 news cycle

>>7934458
normies seemingly dont give a shit that pedophile rapejews are in charge because there's been no uproar. my boomer parents still have the wool over their eyes because they cant admit voting for trump was stupid and an error in judgement of his character.
Weirdos who already knew this shit (and participate in society) dont fucking care either. I dont have an intellectual understanding of the complex interworkings of the nwo the dogmatic trials and tribulations of the ancient cabals who formed crafted the hellscape known as modern society together pedophile space whales from 9th dimension
its just silly. let the world burn. i'll just be here drawing until you drag me out of my chair and slit my throat

>>7933745
she is better than most of this board though

>>7934482
shhhh, let him cope.

You can only love drawing after you've learned how to draw. No matter how many tranny self help videos you watch, you won't find a magic trick. Get to grinding, permabeg. You have many years ahead of you.

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This broke me

>>7933702
Girls have it easier in life in whatever the fuck they want to do, they get instant attention just for being a girl
In the entertainment business and if you are paid based on how many people are paying attention to you (Whether is followers or subs or whatever) girls have an instant +bonus on their enterprise
/Begs/ start from 0, but when they see a women starting on +150 that can be infuriating.

Inb4 "but she is already big!" doesn't matter her +150 was never gone it's always there
I've learned to live with it, but /begs/ do have the moral right on that one.

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>>7933745
>any artist that is pretty and good at making videos automatically sucks at art. That excludes 99% of women. Follow this rule and you'll be fine.

>>7934535
my situation is inverse of that
I've just scribbled for fun here and there for years on shitty grid paper with a pencil and I've liked it so far
but it's getting somewhat less fun since I've been scribbling so much I've accidentally started to actually learn how to draw through raw trial and error and now sometimes I find myself trying to draw well instead of draw fun

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>>7933702
>>7933748
> "here is an ad, if you don't speak favorably about this ad then you are raging mad seething beg incel"

>>7933745
>any artist that is pretty and good at making videos automatically sucks at art

That's why Eleeza makes me seethe. If you follow her IG she even goes out and have a life which makes me seethe even more. She isn't the best at making videos though.

>>7934625
how long are you going to cry? are you still going to be crying 10 years from now?

>>7934782
you telling me that "im crying" doesn't make it less true

>>7934782
Stop seething like a stupid faggot when someone presents a simple fact.

>>7934790
so forever? fucking loser

i miss the days when 4chan would show how many unique posters there were in a thread

>>7934802
you know what else is a simple fact? you're going to die a virgin

>>7934805
i miss the days when people on /ic/ drew

>>7934804
Yes, what I said will be true forever as long as humans are around, yes

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ZONE is the only female artist I will ever respect.
Miss me with your femscreeching.

>>7934900
The only real drawmommy

>>7932838
As fun as videogames? Easily.
As fun as videogames with your friends? No.
The second one is what gets artists.

>>7934900
Zone is a guy, I think you're confused by his oc which is voiced by someone else

>>7934900
you idiots don't even know left from right

>>7934910
newfag

>>7934912
don't reply to me with your seething, you're not even a woman

>>7934914
I literally know him

>>7934535
my kids love drawing and they are terrible at it! can't even color inside the lines!