How and why do you think anime exactly became as big as it is starting from the late 90s onward? It's kinda funny and weird how many zoomers and zillennials born from the mid 90s onward have a weird anti-western style thing going on now, but I guess it's just how things go. Anime and japanese media in general were weird and dumb to us "old school" pre-2000 nerds back then, but now comics and western games are ugly and dumb to younger people. I also noticed that lot of weebs have like a weird face autism and think anything with grounded or realistic faces is ugly in art for some weird goddamn reason, even if it's anime/manga, If you show an current internet brainrotted kid Tetsuo Hara or Ryoichi Ikegami art I bet they'll call it ugly but if you made the faces more like generic modern anime they'll like it.
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>>7933020>Anime and japanese media in general were weird and dumb to us "old school" pre-2000 nerds back thenNo it wasn't. It was "weird" to anyone else not into anime and it still is the moment the mainstream crowd watches something with 1 (one) loli in it. Don't you see the crusades actual anime fans have to put up with online because of these TCAP youtuber audience leaking into the anime space?>but now comics and western games are ugly and dumb to younger peopleAvengers movies, Spiderverse movies and recent Spiderman game, Batman, etc. Seems to still be very mainstream. I'd say more mainstream than ever.>but if you made the faces more like generic modern anime they'll like itThe brainrotted kid would be too busy playing Roblox.Anime is STILL weird. The only difference is Shounen slop has higher than ever budgets in the history of anime in 2026 that attracts way too many people to the medium and the moment they look at other stuff it's deemed as problematic "pedoshit". Anyway, shit thread. Made me respond.
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>>7933020Piracy, the diversity of genres which filled a massive gaping hole in the market (for both comics and animation), and just the sheer quantity of output.Dipshits will claim there are no good western comics or animation, but the only thing that claim proves is that they don't read or watch western comics or animation, because there's plenty of great stuff still being made.The feedback loop for anime becoming big, and hooking people onto the manga, which then increases their attention in other manga, has been fantastic.You can see the same thing with Incredible, where it was a fairly obscure comics series, but through the success of the television show, its sales are better than ever (despite being well finished before the show ever aired).It's the same thing for manga, but as an entire industry.It's interesting that anime and manga are treated so differently by western companies, who seemed to never notice how anime or manga would compete against their products and act as if they're different mediums. Had they actually tried to compete against them, they might not be having the shit kicked in on the market.For example, people had been saying for ages that with Anime's rise, that some actually mature western animation would finally start being made... and it only took them like 20 fucking years to finally start.It's also interesting how badly marvel fumbled their superhero movie craze - they should have been rolling in the dough from their comic sales, and yet they COMPLETELY fucked that opportunity. If I were Disney, I would have fired all the leadership there long ago, because seriously, what a bunch of incompetent morons, dropping a ball that was basically handed to them on a satin pillow.
>>7933048All these years I avoided watching Stranger Things (westernslop) and the past week I have been marathoning it. Aside from some minor things, I should give western shows more chances.
>>7933020Anime is a new tradition, western art is anti-tradition.Anime is canonical and part of Japanese civilization, western art is individualistic and revolutionary.Anime is unburdened and virile, western art is regulated and repressed.Anime is pagan, western art is judeo-christian.Anime is constructive and collaborative, western art is cut-throat competitive and spiteful.Anime is erotic, western art is grotesque.Anime is fertile, western art is fucking dead.
>>7933115>I like anime moreA lot of jargon slogans, just to say that.
>>7933056>All these years I avoided watching Stranger Things (westernslop) and the past week I have been marathoning it.wow, it's almost like fags that only watch anime have stunted growth. No wonder most of the artist online are mentally ill.
>>7933165I like anime so much that it's affecting your solipsistic reality as well
>>7933172I'm just saying, not everything the west shits out is bad. I feel the "right" is the loudest on the internet if they see just 1 black person in the show they're consuming they'll label it as woke trash. But as an avid anime watcher since birth I've been enjoying the show. There's probably a ton of other shows off Netflix that I'd probably enjoy just as much. I haven't even watched "Invincible" besides seeing gifs and memes of it online but from the short clips I've seen it doesn't look too bad. It certainly has more animation than...uhh Yowayowa Teacher or whatever. Maybe give the west a try one more time.
>>7933178>I like anime so muchYou could have shortened your post to this, it's much better.Less words please.
You're only getting the top 5, maybe top 10% of anime and manga because that's the stuff good enough for people to bother importing or at least take a saturday afternoon translating, while you'll be exposed to most of what the west produces since you live there. In reality they're all equally shit but on your library's shelves most manga will be good and most comics average.It works both ways, too, you'll notice the japanese westaboos only ever talk about the absolute best things the west has to offer, nobody is out there reading those boring as fuck filler comics we had in the 80s.
>>7933020>How and why do you think anime exactly became as big as it is starting from the late 90s onward?Anime was a tiny niche in the west during the '80s and early '90s. You might stumble upon a Streamline Pictures dub in a specialty shop, then call the phone number on the video and ask for a catalog. As to how anime really took off here, I would say you can't underestimate the role of Japanese video games. Every kid in America was playing NES, Genesis, SNES, etc. and the best console and arcade games were made in Japan. For most kids here, these games were their introduction to the anime aesthetic. Street Fighter II came out in arcades in 1991 and was a huge phenomenon. RPGs like the Final Fantasy series were also growing in popularity on the SNES and then PS1. When disc-based games arrived, the anime influence became even more overt; a lot of games had fully animated intros and cut scenes. It's really not surprising that kids who grew up immersed in this stuff would want more from Japan, and would go seeking out Japanese-exclusive games, as well as anime and manga.
>>7933258Those are games. Anime was still for losers in the 2000s. Yeah you had your Narutos and Dragonite Balls Z on TV slowly dying in their programming blocks by 2008, but for all the other anime airing at that time you had to still actively stream it. Or you could buy dvds in bulk. I remember buying a whole box set off rightstuff that would cost me a firstborn and a leg today for just $10 or so. Any semblance of popularity came from Haruhi for a blip moment. Haruhi was the oshi no ko of 2009. And then by 2012ish you had YouTubers making it popular to make fun of weebs again. 2012-2013 I’d say was Japans last era of “weird shows” for a long time. Nowadays it has been getting much better. Covid was the magic switch that changed everything.
why are you posting a western animation reaction image then? the guy who made punch punch forever is irish and its essentially a charming parody of classic shonen. like kinnikuman on steroids
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>>7933020>have a weird anti-western style thing going on now, but I guess it's just how things goAnime doesn't constantly try to lecture us with woke propaganda lessons beating us over the head. Yes there are animes that do do that but you can simply avoid and watch a different anime that is simply about telling an entertaining story.Every single western cartoon either has deepest lore that destroys the tone like adventure time or it's beating you over the head with the gay tranny agenda like Steven Universe and Owl House.Anime also features sincere storytelling. In western animation everything has to be postmodernist and full of sarcastic quips.
I like both, and I like seeing both cross over
