How are Japanese artist so good? Is there some technique we westerners are missing out on Everything they make has soul and beauty then I look at /ic/ and it's bland.
What exactly are you mystified by?
>>7941345The atmosphere , the colors and how it all blends in so well.
>>7941347You are just stupid lol.
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>>7941348Some of us have eyes to see beauty unlike you. And post your work before talking
>>7941347>The atmosphere , the colors and how it all blends in so well.He likely copies movie screenshots.
>>7941350>>7941348He's right though.Also fuck jannies.
>>7941351Idk but I think Asians just have better spatial acuity which makes art easy for them
>>7941343Westoids are too obsessed with loomis. The loomis head in particular is too autistic and methodical, which stunts your ability to be creative.
>>7941415How do you become consistent without loomis?
>>7941354>spatial acuityCan you even define this you fucking nodraw? Kill yourself. You suck because you dont do studies. But the only thing holding you back is your stupidity. I cant belive you're even "mystified" by a THUMBNAIL. Its like you.... DONT DRAW.
>>7941415>The loomis head in particular is too autistic and methodical, which stunts your ability to be creative.The irony here you've touched upon is the very reason why the majority of Westerners fail. You treat the Loomis method as an inflexible rule. Loomis himself teaches you in Fun With a Pencil that it doesn't matter if your balls are lopsided, it can still work. Why? Because it's the concept that's important. This extends well beyond the Loomis method. Your way of thinking is wrong from the beginning.Maybe we can blame it on Western education, where the only thing that matters is getting good grades, not actually learning.
>>7941354new ligameme excuse?
>>7941343practiceexperienced artists are good.be diligent and passionate and make up for the disciplined asian upbringing by putting in more work.SIMPLE. AS.btw, I know you are just looking for excuses for your own shortcomings, don't worry.
>>7941431>Maybe we can blame it on Western education, where the only thing that matters is getting good grades, not actually learning.But it's the same in the East
>>7941417How do the asians do it without ever having heard of loomis? Face it, you're obsessed with loomis. If you could go back in time and marry loomis you would.
>>7941431Fun With a Pencil is a good example of good teaching actually. The loomis head however (or how people online treat it, not necessarily loomis's fault) is what leads to stunted growth.
>>7941523People on 4chan especially tend to fall into this trap more than anywhere else.
>>7941343>we wuzturnurzYou'll never be Japanese, retard
theres plenty of mediocre and "soulless" east asian artists, you just dont see their work because it doesnt get pushed to you by algorithms. if you go on sites like pixiv and bilibili you can see it for yourself
>>7941523I think /ic/ has amassed over 10,000 courses at this point yet people still fail. At some point you have to question if you're the problem. If your ego is too big then good luck, you might never see the problem.
>>7941343If you want a half cope answer, their writing system tickles the same part of the brain that drawing does, so writing for them is basically constant stimulation in the part of the brain which may or may not give them an edge in some basic regards. The truth of the matter though, is east Asia is densely populated and you're just seeing those that got good thanks to social media algorithms, which stands true for every region.
>>7941343Consume more Japanese media: old animes, mangas, artists on twitter, visual novels
>>7941550Don't forget how copying (and intentional tracing) is heavily encouraged in East Asia, nevermind how the culture over there values absolute dedication to hobbies/interests. Pop art is also a lot more accessible via cheap magazines.>>7941343From someone who spent like a solid month studying how the Japanese learn art (from blogs, forum posts, Youtube videos, manga about making manga, etc), the answer is quite interesting:>artists tend to dedicate several hours a day to drawing >the culture encourages constant copying from magazines, printed out photos, or online artwork as well as actually using references properly (breaking it down into shapes/forms)>the Japanese keep their hands busy with origami and kirigami which helps them with 3D forms>they're constantly exposed to comic art from a young age>art programs and art teachers heavily stress drawing from life (specifically cuboid and spherical objects found around the house) and nailing down line quality (Japanese Youtube videos always ask you to spend at least a month on grinding lines, shapes, and forms before you move on to anything else) BEFORE even touching renderingIn America, our culture isn't supportive towards learning art:>the sheer number of people who think merely looking at references is cheating>LE TRACING IS BAD (even if you're just breaking a reference down into shapes before you actually draw) despite the amount of legendary artists who started off tracing in their formative years>everyone getting hung up on perspective and construction rather than focusing on composition>MUH RENDERING>everyone bitching and moaning about having to work on grinding shapes and forms and lines
>>7941343>Everything they make has soul and beauty then I look at /ic/ and it's bland.Wow, a professional is better than some still-learning amateurs? Colour me shocked!>>7941521>How do the asians do it without ever having heard of loomis?Are you genuinely retarded? Loomis is one of the most respect art book authors the world over, asia included.Ask a manga author what they recommend, and it's very likely to have Loomis on it. That's likely the case for any country making decent art.>B-b-but muh "westoids"!Just admit you're a self loathing weeaboo and hate western culture, and that you fetishize asian culture like the creepy little weeb you are.
>>7941441Every Japanese YouTuber:>I want to draw my favorite anime girls.>I know! I'll grab references and print them out so I can break them down into shapes and forms.>Afterwards, I'll look at the reference and then hide it before drawing it from memory.>Then I'll get an anime figurine or a poseable toy to study lighting/shading.>(draws for six hours straight)>(does this every day or every other fucking day)>(when they're not drawing, they're constantly reading manga)>And now that I've done this, I'll start with rendering and coloring.
>>7941605>they're constantly exposed to comic art from a young age This is the only thing you said that matters. They have a culture that celebrates cartoons. Therefore, more people get into drawing. This makes the right tail of the bell curve larger and you have a bigger pool of outliers. All the other shit you said is just a consequence of the side of their culture that values excessive, tedious work.
>>7941354I used to think this until I was in high school and learned that the "crazy talented" Asian students who were great at art were overworked and barely got any sleep. On top of that, most of them were barely fluent in their parents' native language and had dogshit eyesight.>how are you so good at art>oh I only get like three or four hours of sleep haha (15 year old with gray hair)The actual truth of "why Asians are so good at art" has more to do with dyslexia and how Asians lucked out in this regard. Dyslexia is linked to strong 3D visualization skills and hand-eye coordination. About 5 to 20% of the population has dyslexia, with dyslexia being something of a spectrum too.>>7941610Asian languages are symbol-based and stress grinding away at the logograms (see: multi-sensory instruction, explicit instruction, etc) and intensively memorizing the sounds when literacy is taught so people with dyslexia aren't really noticed like they are in America.
>>7941535Your post basically described all of /ic/.
>>7941606>never saw an asian letsdraw stream>doesn't know they just start drawing without loomis heads>starts going on about his gay loomis fetish againLook at the little retard go!
>>7941523I think internet culture is a big factor in how people learn (or don't learn) to draw. A lot of internet culture is trying to fit in. "Loomis" has been idealized as the "4chan art" thing, so you have faggots like this >>7941606 just blindly seething for no reason. But then you tell them to post their work and it's some ugly south american fake-anime titty garbage.
>>7941618>doesn't know they just start drawing without loomis headsOh god, you're a retard who thinks that the methods used during the learning phase stay the same throughout an artist's entire drawing career. Look at David Finch's videos, he has a video explicitly about the Loomis method, but he doesn't use that method most of the time he draws a head.Also, yeah, I watch Asian art video, and western ones, I watch them from whatever culture I like, because I'm not a faggot who fetishizes other cultures to the point of excluding the rest.>>7941628and fuck you too. You're degrade quality art learning materials that are recommended by a large amount of professional working artists, and simply call it a '4chan thing'. It's not a '4chan thing', it's an art education thing.And then to proceed to whine about "ugly south american fake-anime titty garbage", which is likely because they only learned by studying anime - how about you faggots do some self reflection?Drooling retards, the both of you.
>>7941639I'm sorry. My emotions got the better of me. But after every fight comes the reconciliation.
>>7941640I was needlessly harsh in my replies too. I'm sorry.
>>7941646>>7941640Now kiss.
>>7941648ASS TO ASS
>>7941347Aphantasia, if you can't just imagine a rough estimate of what you want your art to look like then please just quit, be a UPS driver or something
>>7941347You are trained by anime to see cheap work and sweatshop level quality decisions as "good"You are a customer of shit.You are being served shit, and you like it because it's your life and all you know.You've never seen those videos of pajeets in India preparing the most revolting food? That's nothing, you are the one pajeet that is salivating at it and actually buying it and eating it. There are people like that, you are the art equivalent.As an example, what you perceive as "the colors and how it all blends in so well" on the OP, is nothing more than being cheap fucks and using the same color for the fucking hair and shirt
>>7942603>look look i'm blending really well and being atmospheric and the colorlol thats funny. you're funny.
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