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Does anyone else feel their blood boil whenever they see someone else doing well in art and having this magical creativity, while you’ve been shit at art for over 4 years and still can’t figure out what you want to draw
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>>7942103
No
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>>7942103
I embrace the shit because nobodies art appeals to me.
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>>7942103
I don't because I have quantifiable information on my side. Artists who "do well" come in a few groups:

>the "gifted" ones who have strong 3D visualization from undiagnosed dyslexia:
>group A: rendermonkeys who have weak draftsmanship
>group B: ones with good draftsmanship skills but can't render for shit
>group C: artists who can render and draft but can't fucking draw from memory
>group C: artists who stubbornly refuse to draw from life and/or use references
>group D: artists who rely too much on references
>group E: artists who focused too much on perspective rather than spend time on composition
>group F: artists who refuse to work on line quality and grinding shapes/lines/forms

They are the "hares" of the art world who often parrot how learning art is something subjective and nebulous. Natural talent means nothing if you don't work hard and work smart. There is a logical method towards learning art.

>Line quality ---> Gesture ---> Construction and Perspective ---> Composition ---> Shading/Values/Lighting ---> Color

You develop these skills by copying the art you love and want to resemble, committing your references and drawings to memory, and doing so consistently. As you master each fundamental, you develop strength in the other areas.
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>>7942103
no
I like art made by better artists, makes me want to draw more
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>>7942103
no, at least I know what I want to draw.
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>>7942103
You get ideas of what to draw when you're not drawing. Then you note or scribble sketch those ideas down. So when you want to draw later you already decided on what to draw
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>>7942103
This video impacted me pretty hard when it came out. It wasn't sex but I remember going over to my friend's house to play Halo one night and they were all drinking and smoking despite having seemingly no interest in it prior. We were 14 and I just wanted to play some Halo. I'm 30 now and the only one of that friend group that didn't fuck up my life beyond repair. I think of that day a lot
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>>7942152
People tend to chase socially acceptable opiates because they lack a developed self-image and/or lack strong emotional connections with the people around them, particularly family members. Children will literally abuse substances to numb their pains. Alcohol, weed, cigarettes, hard drugs, etc - they're all forms of escapism to avoid feeling hurt but end up preventing healing and growth.

I work with kids and the ones who have crappy home lives are always the ones who want to be "adult" as quickly as possible yet they have no understanding of what that actually means (emotional maturity) so everything they do ends up being shallow performance and a cry for help.
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>>7942103
Never.
Why should the creativity and success of others impact me negatively in any way?

But If people would finally stop projecting their own insecurities and feelings upon others, that'd be great.
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>>7942103
My guy I've been shit at art for 15 years, if I get mad at other people over my own incompetence I'll go legit insane
My only rival is my past self
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>>7942103
Skill issue
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>>7942103
it comes with time anon.
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>>7942103
I’m at the point where I can look at something I like and think “what aspects of this can I steal”.
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>>7942103
It's a narcissistic trait I think, I used to feel like that but I'm doing fine now, I believe it's a mental health problem that manifests as envy and vitriol, so the first step is getting help
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>>7942103
What do you do in your life, anon? Do you meet with your friends and family? Get out hiking? Read books? Watch anime? Play sports? Autistically stack rocks?
Nothing comes from nothing
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>>7942117
In comic strip media, line quality is literally at the bottom of the barrel
It was not important 400 years ago when papers started to appear, it's not important on comic strips today as well
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>>7942103
How can you not know what you want to draw? I can understand knowing what you want to draw but not knowing how to, but how is it possible to even have the opposite?
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>>7942317
They draw for social likes. So they're trying to think of what other people want and not what they like to draw
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>>7942161
I don't see anyone else but you doing that
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>>7942103
not really, maybe because i can make a living off my art (for now) so I don't get a seething envy when others succeed. but it's always a shock when literaly baby teenagers post really impressive stuff. i think what level i was like back then and i was nowhere near. and then i start wondering if theyre tracing ai, and then i stop before i doom spiral
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I don't get mad at them I just feel really retarded and inferior. Like I must have genuinely low IQ or severe autism or something that these people who do drugs and go to parties and are normies talking about the latest politicslop on twitter just effortlessly outperform me.
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>>7942103
>over 4 years
Try like 20.
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>>7942117
>the "gifted" ones who have strong 3D visualization from undiagnosed dyslexia:
I'd like to know more about this one, since my intuition is that having dyslexia is the exact opposite of the innate spatial transformation sense that characterizes good 3D visualization.
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>>7942421
I believe it's not for all spatial reasoning tasks. Just some important ones when it comes to understanding 3d forms. Dyslexia is more about language.
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>>7942421
I work with SPED children and I've learned an awful lot about dyslexia over the years:

>about 5-20% of the population has some form of dyslexia
>dyslexic brains are wired to think in 3D: this is why spelling and reading is difficult for dyslexic children because their brains naturally go to "rotate this"
>3D thinking is "all at once" whereas learning to read is linear and sequential
>most people with dyslexia end up in STEM careers, engineering, architecture, etc

The real juicy information is that dyslexia is a spectrum AND is frequently co-morbid with ADHD.

>More research and studies are pointing towards ADHD having a significant amount of overlap with autism (as well as high rates of co-morbidity) that it might be a category of autism outright
>Dyslexic people can be identified by reading speed (too slow...or too fast!), misspelling (lots of dyslexic people tend to SUCK at spelling), and penmanship

The dyslexic students are always great at art and a good chunk of the clearly undiagnosed autistic children are ALSO great at art, as well as the diagnosed examples.

I am on the spectrum and although I excelled at reading when I was young, I've since realized that I tend to read too fast and that I need to read at a moderate pace. My penmanship has always been crappy and my mom has ADHD.
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>>7942558
>>7942510
This is why a lot of English-speaking artists in online spaces usually misspell words in fanart and generally why a lot of artists tend to not read many books. Decoding is very difficult.
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>>7942117
>>the "gifted" ones who have strong 3D visualization from undiagnosed dyslexia:
wait that explains fucking everything although its not undiagnosed



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