Artistbros, we're gonna make it ...!
>>7942517Xitter retarded faggot attention farming fried niggers giving us false hopes to farm views and likes kys kys kysyjtd kys jyakys kys kys kysfkekiiwiw
>>7942529you good, bro?
>>7942517Interesting, it's almost like it'll create a market for start-ups to try and get on their feet w/ humans then - once big enough, fire them all and replace them with computers. DESU does not seem any different than businesses (ex. clothing brands) incubating in hometown jurisdictions and once exploding moving off-shoring to china or india to cut production costs drastically.
>da headline feels good, we win!Meanwhile politicians are still selling us out for a chance to be a part of the new oligarchy. Data centers still being erected everywhere. Slop still flooding the internet at increasing pace. AI and its corporate owners simultaneously making things more expensive while making it harder to earn money for 99% of us. Wealth divide widening at record rate. We are so back artbros.
>>7942517That's only really applicable to language models and the retards demanding it be forced into everything as a companion. Image generation is substantially cheaper/easier, to the point you're better off hosting locally if you have a half decent GPU than whatever cloud based garbage companies try to control with an iron grip. Don't forget "AI" is an umbrella term despite the fact people don't treat it as one and has muddied the waters in what that type of technology actually is.
>>7942517Called this literally before it was even a thing
>>7942517There's reports saying that services like Anthropic's Claude Code $200 subscription plan is essentially allowing about $5000 to $7500 worth of compute and hoping that the subscribers aren't using up all the compute allocated. But then people just use their Claude subscription with Openclaw and Opencode (which Anthropic had already blocked nowadays) and they rack up thousands in usage (there's even a ranking of who uses up the most compute).Also Microsoft is now ending Claude's subscriptions for their employees. After breaking up with OpenAI.And OpenAI is now trying to sue Apple for breaking up with them and Apple went to Google Gemini for Apple Intelligence Shit's a shitshow lmfao.Meanwhile Chink AI labs are just doing their own things with Seedance, Deepseek, QwenI'm using Qwen for generating different angles on my own fucking local hardware. No need to pay for any of these shits. Haha. AI my ass. They're just very complicated autocompletes or generative fill in photoshop.>>7942548I feel like SDXL is the only image generation models you will ever need nowadays. Fits a 16GB VRAM card and generates at reasonable enough speed. And you can still train your own character lora in 1-2 hours, or concept lora in 4-6 hours. Still has enough controlnets to do 'most' of the things you need for a composition.Flux? Controlnet doesnt fit. Slows down to a shitterAnima? No img2img, dead on arrivalQwen? Actually this one is fine, more like a free local alternative to Google nanobanana. And Wan2.2 with frame to frame interpolation with some of those model mixes (not the vanilla one) can give a decent frame-to-frame animation reference if you want to draw your own hand drawn animation. At least it cuts the time taken for a 80-frame animation from 1 week to 2-3 days (since I dont have to start from drawing empty shapes, I can just use the character models directly). Still a lot of work but at least not a fucking full time job for a hobby project.
>>7942517While I'm anti-AI imagery, and in any artform really, I'm dubious.Okay, let's say it's more expensive than having a human make a single image... every image prompt still makes like 4 versions instantly.So if a half decent image takes a human Two hours or so, and it takes the AI One minute to make it's 4 generation - the employed artist is going to be like $60 for those two hours or so minimum, are those 4 images from a single prompt going to be that much?Even taking into account the dubious quality of the AI images, the amount of prompts that could be done with the $60 would probably output something close to want the splopster wants... or has the prices skyrocketed THAT high?I'm not arguing that my scenario is much like how a studio would operate, but merely that if a slopper wants to slop, he'd probably be able to justify it pretty easily. And this isn't even considering running local AIs, like the anon above me is doing.But hey, it's nice to be hopeful. I was never all that worried about AI myself, but if this calms others down? Great!>>7942537>once big enough, fire them all and replace them with computers.If AI costs drastically more than humans, that wouldn't be the case - because it still costs more than the artists they're firing, so what would be the benefit? Though you're right about off-shoring, and that's more likely to happen than being fired for AI in OP's scenario.
>>7942517If youre an artist and willing to crawl back to those corporate job, hoping for a work after all those backstabbing shit that they've done to you and your people in the past several years then you are a goycattle that can be bought with financial security. Nuff said
>>7942517Technology can always optimize. Andrew Loomis can't save youTik Tok
>>7943077even artists like to eat, anon
>>7943084Yeah yeah, two more weeks.>Tik TokWe don't need to know where you came from, zoom zoom.
>>7943055>While I'm anti-AI imagery, and in any artform really, I'm dubious.they're all operating at a loss, betting on people becoming dependent on their service faster than they run out of VC moneythe true cost of a prompt is messy, complex and probably much more expensive than they let on
thank meI've been slopping non stop for the last weeki mean, if they're giving out free shit don't mind if i exploit it
>>7943084The problem with these AI tools in non-coding department is the integration of them into existing tools are very slow and lacklustre. So far the few tools that seems to put in any effort is Photoshop (there's that one generative tool where you can spin the image around), but that's also running on Nanobanana (which is Google's, and it's expensive!). Adobe isn't letting people use their own local models so welp, some stuff is out of the question (that's a good chunk of artists there). There's Krita Diffusion but welp its Krita being Krita so it's mostly autistic implementation. It's like there's barely any artist even using these AI stuff to give feedback on how those tools should be designed (tho there's a not insignificant amount of artists that are actually using AI in the background but never disclose them for obvious reasons) As for optimizing...That'll only work if these AI labs are willing to open-source their models to be locally hosted. Which they sure aren't doing. They need their reasons for Murica to build big datacenters so Jensen Huang can sell his GPUs.
i draw as a hobbyi hope ai kills every single artist on the planeti also hope it kills the slop spammersthat is all
>>7943130As a quick aside, I've found one of the biggest red flags for AI is just how defined they tend make everyone's collarbones. They're literally jutting out to the point it looks unhealthy.
AI is mostly going to replace drawfags. People who make marks on the page.It's not going to replace people who do unique things with their art.Gone are the days of the anime girl on a white background, and good riddance.It's about time artists had to actually DO SOMETHING with their art as opposed to just show off how good they can draw.
Are people retarded? Did they not realize that AI companies were burning holes in their pockets to get people to depend on their technology? It's the first stage of enshittification. Open source models are also going to become increasingly sparse. But hey, keep talking about AI jesus saving the world or something. Fucking dumbasses. They all deserve to be made into serfs.
>>7943364>AI is mostly going to replace drawfags>atleast 50% of 4chin boards feels inorganic now because of sloppa spam>sees this as a good thingfuck off, faggot.
Most art is just dogshit. Like, the fact the generic Pony face gens look better than 95% of the art out there says a lot. It's all just commodity 3d model tracing and shitty looking anime. Art will be for the ubermensch only in the future.
>>7943055>every image prompt still makes like 4 versions instantly.Literally doesn't matter.Pic output is a meaningless metric.The actual metric is pic usage.If it takes an artist 2 hours to make a pic, but you'll use it, why does it matter that the AI will output 1 pic plus 4 variants in 30 seconds... that you won't use?The AI can output 6 bases and 449 variants in 387 minutes, you won't use anyThe AI can output 9449 bases and 2 variants in 8 minutes, you won't use anyThe AI can output [X] bases and [Y] variants in [Z] minutes, what the fuck does it matter any of it if you are not going to use them?
>>7943432I don't agree with slop but if you think about it, scribes would've been pissed off you could make a comment like that with little friction. Your comment would be considered slop. Every piece of writing that didn't take effort to do would be considered slop. Hating on AI is only going to leave you behind.Learn to make something useful with your art, it doesn't even have to be technically good. Look at pic related. Shit is made in MS Paint yet gets more impressions than 99% of /ic/ artists on here who can draw well.
