Christianity truly brought out the best in artist.
>>7942910because the wealthy people were willing to pay a lot for their bible fanart commissions
>>7942910No r34 did
>>7942918retard
>>7942910Its not very christian if you asked me. Its missing the final christian touch
>>7942910Eh, there were plenty of greek and roman statues that were brilliant as well.It arguably brought out the best in painters though, but that's likely moreso because churches were artist's biggest patrons and people wanted religious iconography in their homes, moreso than the artist's own faith.>>7943040I can see muslims are very inspired by their techniques.
>>7942910>sets Europeans back 1000 years>pre-christian culture is revived during the Renaissance when people stopped taking the bible literally>Christians claim credit
>>7943159The greatest artist who ever lived, unprompted. Though I won’t take for granted that most of /ic/ would say Leonardo Da Vinci is a hack.
>>7942910I would agree that overall it did, yes, though depending on the period the church was more a smothering and dangerous presence for the innovative artist. The clearest example of such a period being the counter reformation in Rome. You could very rarely refuse a commission by powerful figures in the church and if you delivered an artwork that scandalized the faith in some way (and that way often depended on the current Pope's taste) you could be ruined overnight. Christianity helped bring me out of a motivational rut that I'd been experiencing for nearly a decade. It's very inspiring to make work that glorifies God in its execution. My ultimate goal as an artist is to depict historical dramas using dogs as models. Edwin Landseer's work is an example of this direction.>>7943159You either have a very rich imagination or a very poor knowledge of western history. >>7943181I don't agree with describing him as the best only because I don't think there's a comprehensive way to determine that. It's a matter of informed taste ultimately.
>>7943181The problem with this quote is no Christian African has ever been able to do what Da Vinci did even with the same amount of labor. I'm not saying they are unable to create good art. I think they can and do. But they don't have his mechanical and technical genius. So I'm just supposed to think God's blessings only apply to Europeans? Maybe that's the case, but Europeans were pushing art, philosophy, and science long before he incarnated himself to be a sacrifice or whatever. So then what use is God other than something superstitious people use to explain things when it's convenient?
>>7943159this atheist bullshit argument about christianity always bothers me just for the sole reason of bookprints only being a big thing because of some incel monks and the church with too much time and money
>>7943193The invention of the printing press doesn't make Christianity true kid.
>>7943199>kid.Go back to r/atheism.
>>7943191God isn't really a well of material development we can draw from freely and it's a pointless exercise to sleuth what His plan is and how it will unfold. What Leonardo da Vinci meant was that through God you will be fulfilled spiritually. By doing good works with pious intent you will arrive at the answers you need. This doesn't mean you will be fulfilled materially. Sometimes it even means, as described in the Book of Job, that God will utilize the evil that exists in this world to develop you. It's important to remember that Christians believe the soul endures after death. Our time here in our fallen material state matters to the extent that we absorb the divine grace. The temporal benefits and struggles we experience don't define our capacity to do so.
>>7943090>Eh, there were plenty of greek and roman statues that were brilliant as well.If you go to an ancient Greek museum even the best statues still don't compare to some of renaissance ones. You can see sculpting has evolved a lot over time. Even between the ancient Greeks there's a big difference between Archaic statues which were obviously inspired by Egyptian statues and Classical statues that were more anatomically accurate.>I can see muslims are very inspired by their techniques.It was the other way around actually. Iconoclasm started in the Byzantine Empire after they lost a bunch of battles to the Muslims and thought God had abandoned them because they still had icons unlike Muslims that banned all depictions of the human (and divine) form.
>>7942910No religion ever brought out anything good in people. It's always been secular thinking that advanced society.
>>7942915>>7943090>>7943159THIS
>>7943181>The greatest artist who ever livedMichaelangelo clears, no diff but then again he was also a Christian and said:>Neither painting nor sculpture will be able any longer to calm my soul, now turned toward that divine love that opened his arms on the cross to take us in.
>>7943248>Michaelangelo clears, no diff but then again he was also a ChristianYet he painted a brain on the ceiling of the sistine chapel.
>>7943280Put down your copy of The Da Vinci Code and learn some real art analysis, nigga.
>>7943291>>7943244>No religion ever brought out anything good in people. It's always been secular thinking that advanced society.Go ahead, refute this, retard.
>>7943305>debate me on religion on the amateur basketweavers blog of the mongolian basketweaving website bro.Nah, I think I'm going to go draw.
>>7942910That dude was gay
>>7943305You experience the refutation of your statement every single day and that's why you're so anxious to cut your teeth on a debate about it. You affirm your zealotry by cutting down strawmen.You should endeavor to do that less. It's contradictory to your goal.
>>7943313I accept your concession. Have fun drawing.>>7943320Holy irony. Religious people truly are a walking fallcy lmao.
>>7943362You're not using the words irony or fallacy correctly.
>>7942910Christian art looked like this for a millennium and a half, until they started to copy pagan art.
>>7943406This looks good though? It also looks the same as most pre-Christian Roman mosaics.
>>7943187is that really your work? damn
>>7943644Oh no, that is "Alexander and Diogenes" by Edwin Landseer. It's one of my favorite paintings. If you've ever been to London and seen the set of giant bronze lions at Trafalgar square, those were also his work. He was a renowned animal painter in his lifetime.
they really just were the equivalent of rich furries of the modern era huh
>>7942910All I'm saying is, it's probably not a coincidence that the new testament was written in greek
>>7943406Nah, it actually took logic and reason in order to advance art. It took the renaissance, which is objectively a secular movement.
>>7943841I'm all for dunking on the Protestant reformation by calling it a secular movement, but I don't think you mean it that way. You seem to be under the impression that everyone became atheist (or something akin to it) during the renaissance, which is a comical declaration to make. You're also very clearly out of your depth on the issue of logic and reason. The schism between the eastern and western churches in the early 1000's was due to the latter's burning fervor for such. Logic and reason never left the minds of the western world as it adopted Christianity. I'm not against revisionism or apologetics but it has to have at least a scintilla of truth behind it. That's what makes revisionism interesting.
What would be a good place to post christian art?
Nah Christianity actually censored and destroyed a lot of art if it was deemed blasphemous. What brought out the best in artists were the wealthy patrons and guilds that allowed them to make art.
great art is a function of wealth, stability, and institutional power and it just so happens that in the past, religion was able to bring about these things. it's not a product of christianity, rather just a product of a system that provides these things.
