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>>7966046Did you paint this, anon?
>>7966055Yeah
4 years, bros, im still missing the guy
>>7966046The way you paint is nice but this really suffers from structural issues, for examply the nose is at a different angle than the rest of the face and the eyes are situated independently from each other as well. Draw more, study faces more. Your painting is there but your drawing and structural knowledge needs some work.
>>7966202Me too. The art communist felt very alive with him in it
>>7966304I know, half the paintings I do, I realize I shat the bed at the drawing stage mid painting. The other half I look at the day after and they're even worse, picrel. I'm trying to draw more, but it's incredibly non-stimulating and I just start thinking about painting and losing focus
>>7966325Do you work from life? Work from life. Hire models, do self portraits if you're broke. Still lifes. It's alright to get your practice with painting rather than drafting, just try to keep the studies economic in terms of size / materials
>>7966202Everybody does but that's this nigger earth it will take good people who are inspiration and spawn 5 epsteins instead.
>>7966202I miss watching his streams when he draw those tiger and rabbit cartoon when he is finished doing the point of his exhibition.
WIPAny trad genius here who can give me tips?I'm currently done with the underpainting (Blue/Grey + Green), and the base colors of the body.I was using blue/grey + green for the underlayer to give the image a colder feel (it's a doll, not really a human), but I think the colors just turned out muddy. Probably should have dropped the green.I think I still don't really know how to paint shadows well with brush. I always try to paint shadows thinner, with lots of water, so that they stay in the background, while I can paint the highlights more opaque with less water, so that they stand out more. However, when I paint the shadows with water, I don't really know how to create smooth transitions with them. It seems you can only make smooth transitions if you paint without water.I also don't really know how to paint the midtones well, because again, I was trying to not mix them with white, so that they stay in the background. However since I didn't mix them with white, they turned out too dark I think. Not really a flesh tone. I think I would have to mix my colors with white to make them look more fleshy, but I only wanted to use white for the highlights.It's so difficult to paint with brush well. I don't really know what to do about this.
So guys how did you like the exhibition? https://www.truepainting.org/
>>7966749For starters, I officially reject Pedophilia and Acrylics.If your shadows were transparent, they would not look as muddy as they do.Your lights and shadows are not really distinct.Overall your values no good.You don't really have deep shadows in your picture, so you don't need dark transparent colors to paint them, most of your picture is in the midtone range.Work from a warm underpainting, until you know what you do.Work on your value compression or on values in general.Use glazing.With acrylics you can pain a lot of thin layers in one sitting, you can use very transparent whites, zinc for example. Acrylic whites are more transparent than lead and you can dilute them a lot more, so you can use them for the midtones without facing problems, even for shadows.>>7966756Not bad, for modern day standards. Didn't like the mannequins though, postmodern garbage. People have faces, fuck yourself if you think otherwise. Does it suppose to represent some degenerate idea of the tabula rasa state of human at birth?
>>7966749Haven't noticed that you paint on paper. Is it raw paper? Yeah of course you cant blend diluted color on an absorbent canvas.Seal your picture with mate medium, or paint some more until the raw paper is sealed.As a noob, don't use acrylics on raw paper, its hard to control, cos every new layer of paint changes the absorbency level of the paper, so every next layer behaves differently.
>>7966788>Your lights and shadows are not really distinct.Yea, I think I didn't use enough water for the base skin layer. It partly made the shadows disappear.Also should have used a different color for this base skin layer. This one looks too yellow/brownish. I actually have a better color for this, but I don't know my colors well enough yet and how they turn out when dried.I will try to paint the shadows again a bit, and go over the skin layer with a different color again.>Overall your values no good.Note I didn't paint the highlights yet, so yea, there isn't really much depth in it yet.
>>7966794>Is it raw paper?Well, I used the underlayer as a preparation. >Seal your picture with mate mediumYou mean the whole paper? I only know of people using matte medium as a substitute for water while mixing colors, but I don't have matte medium. Do you mean I should use it as some kind of gesso?
>>7966799Learn how to properly blend colors and how to build up values with this medium. So the outcome is controlled and not dictated by chance.>Yea, I think I didn't use enough water for the base skin layer.I am not sure what you mean. But as i said, you need to level up your skills with the medium. Otherwise, it's hard to differentiate between your lack in technique and lack of fundamental knowledge of light, form and color.
>>7966817>Learn how to properly blend colors and how to build up values with this mediumI already know how to do it. It's just easy to forget when actually working on soemthing.For the shadows I think I should have used 3 different mixtures instead of only 1.This way you can get better transitions, even when painting with water.Another way to get transitions with water is also to just go over a layer again with the same color/mixture. Thsi way you also easily can create darker spots/transitions.I kinda forgot to do this here. I will probably start all over again, and do it better next time.>I am not sure what you meanLike I said, the base skin layer partly made the shadows disappear, because it was too opaque apparently. Just not enough water I guess.It was kind of hard to give the grey shadows some skin color, without making them partly disappear. That's another thing I had problems with with. You have to be really precise with the amount of water you use.
>>7966805>Well, I used the underlayer as a preparation.It does not look completely sealed.>You mean the whole paper?Yes.You need a medium to properly work with acrylics.You can use gesso, but some gessoes do absorb a lot of water as well. Which is not necessery bad. But you have the same effect with the absorbency changing over time. A solid layer of acrylics is less absorbent than most gessoes.2-3 layers of mate medium would seal the paper completely without it being too slick afterwords like with gloss medium.I would suggest guesso before or grey-brown imprimatura after the drawing. For the imprimatura you can use a transparent earth color with a lot of medium
>>7966824>I already know how to do it>i forgotThat's not really how it works.>I will probably start all over again, and do it better next time.I would suggest pushing it further, you would probably learn more from it.Acrylics is not oil, you can do whatever you want as long as there is no impasto.You can work opaque over transparent, transparent over opaque there are barely any rules in this regard.
>>7966826I will have a look at that. Thanks!I didn't know you also can use matte medium as gesso.Probably should have used more water and color for the imprimitura. I will try better next time, thanks.
>>7966830>I would suggest pushing it further, you would probably learn more from it.I will still try to ad highlights for the skin at least then do it again form scratch. I want to see if I was right with my analysis of mistakes I made and if I could do it better.Tomorrow I will also try to buy matte medium and see what I can do with it.
>>7966833>I didn't know you also can use matte medium as gesso.Not quite, gesso has pigment in it, acrylic medium don't. Gesso is more absorbent, its opaque white and its more curse due to the chalk it contains.Acrylic medium is more slick, it's transparent and less absorbent. It's not really a gesso, but it can seal the paper or the canvas.
>>7966844I see, thanks for the tip!
Anyone has tips for brushes or pencils which are great for fine details?I don't paint on big canvas so finding a good brush which can make really fine lines becomes difficult.Also not sure what kind of pencil could fit to acrylics. Especially skin color pencils for details would be nice.Or maybe a white highlight pencil which comes good with acrylics?
I guess I would need something like a menso-fude brush for really fine lines.Does something like this even exist in western brushes? I don't think they sell those here.
Some honest critique would help to know where can I improve, the study here was vibrancy and bold colors composition, I think the values would improve had I used darker pigments as you can see the small area below her right arm then I thought that would tone down the overall mood composition , thats why I chose some chromatic adjacent to suggest shadows, sadly it looks weird. Any advice? Thank yous
>>7966788>Does it suppose to represent some degenerate idea of the tabula rasa state of human at birth?No I think it's just an honest exercise drawing that concentrates on composition, marks/stroke economy and the forms/construction and gestures of the human subject.The point of the show was to show works of varying skill level from different people, but that all have the same approach to painting in the sense if how the old masters saw it.
>>7966983Weak basis plus very saturated colors make your art look a distinct way. If you put it nicely, you would say decorative, or you could call it kitsch. Some people can harmonize bright colors instinctively, they could take such flower child approach. I don't see that in your paintings, i think restraining yourself and earning your saturated color would be a way to go. But that could kill the fun for you and make you stop. More concrete, your biggest problem right now is zero color harmony. You have blotches of saturated without any interaction between them. Try to intermix your colors at least a little bit. Use a harmonizing imprimatura or use a limitted palette, primary palette for example.>>7966986I am imune to your gaslighting, kiddo. Your explanation for the manequin heads is not suficient and therfore rejected.The blanc heads are a subversive political comentary. Its anti-human, it's misontropic.It isn't even very original, i have seen it docents of times.Is that what you would like people to be, faceless, rootless automatons out of flesh that can be piked from everywhere, and put across lines in the sand like pawns? Perfect disposable working units to build the City of the Sun.Maybe im schizoing out a little bit, who nows, but usualy im more often correct than not.
>>7967008I think you're reading too much into it. It's just croquis drawings that build up composition. As I said, some artists there are beginners so their stuff isn't yet much developed, but the stuff that matters is being expressed in them too.
>>7967030What are we talking about, intention or results, the latter is evidential?
>>7966873>>7966881I was going to answer, but then you outed yourself as a brown weeb
>>7966756Holy fuck, what a meme. I see two paintings that are better than the average shit posted here.
>>7967114Answer it pls! I am no weeb. Japan just makes good art supplies
>>7967129Retard.
>>7966038does every thread need to have girls’ feet
Trying to rely less on outline contours and such but i feel like the composition's stagnating.
>>7967122>average shit posted here.Takes one to know one.
>>7967272I haven't even noticed, but you did, huh? Why are you so obsessed with this topic?
>>7967276Don't hear a refutation.
>>7967559Refutation of what? You don't have a single clue about anything. You think shitposting on /ic/ is equivalent to knowing art, that's how deluded you actually are.
>>7967807You think you and your students can paint, that's how delulu you are lol
>>7967812Prove you can do better then.
>>7968027Get BTFO the fuck out, you old fuck
Fuckkkkk stop arguing and just post art . This always happens in this thread lol
>>7967275The composition and line work is good, it’s just a bit ambiguous in terms of execution. It’s hard to tell exactly where this is, or if the trees are on sand or grass. Also darken the dark sides of the trees a wee bit more, the darkest values are too far from the cast shadow
>>7968047Damn, all that time you've been alive and you've got nothing to show for it, huh? Talk about wasted life.
>>7968082oops, meant for >>7966756
>>7968084You already proved you're a no draw. Learn your place like a good boy.
>>7968089I do need a draw when I'm winning, boomboomSorry about your "art" tho lol
>>7968122You still here? Come back and talk to me when you finish your boxes, kid.
Just arrived, pretty excited about the azo yellowI want to try lead white as well
>>7968139>come back and talk to meYou wish I'd talk to you about painting, maybe you'd actually learn something lol
>>7968139>Come back and talk to me when you finish your boxes, kid.Kek this is brutal. And the reason why 90% of retards on this board never learn anything. The fundamental lessons pushed here are fundamentaly flawed.
>>7968206Do you even paint?
>Come back and talk to me when you finish your boxes, kid.>Kek this is brutal. And the reason why 90% of retards on this board never learn anything. The fundamental lessons pushed here are fundamentaly flawed
>>7968365Not really so that's why i'm looking forward to it a lot, tried using cheap student paints at first but the binders and lack of rich pigment saturation just kills it for me, and the titanium white that I have feels very oily and chalky, not opaque enough to tint harshlyI've been doing digital stuff for a while, for my first oil paint i'm doing a small recreation/study of a picture for my dad since he likes western spaghetti
>>7968365
>>7968528looks nice, you'll be brian's archrival
>>7968528i love western spaghetti too. it looks really tasty, nice work.
>>7968440You and all the boxmdrawers will never ever be able to make anythingbremotley as beutiful as that.
>>7968663Are you having a stroke, grandpa? You certainly paint like it lmoa GOTTEM
>>7968529where do you beat the devil out of your big brush?
>>7968440this is shit i dont get the hype, i dont even care if it ends up being from an actually good historical artist (it sucks so bad i am not lensing it)
>>7968675Its light-years ahead of Brian, though.
>>7968675It's post modernist garbage, he wants to be a french academic without putting in the work and instead just smears paint into mush under pretense of le narrative while lacking the rigorous technical training and understanding of composition and disegno. Disgusting.
>>7968687>It's post modernist garbageCoincidentally im an expert on that topic.Postmodernism is a spectrum, he is not very high on it.I dont see irony in his art, no subversion as well, at least if i judge from what was posted itt.I dont see him painting bad on purpose as well. He may be delusional about his skill level, but its not the same.You can say its overly sentimental romantism, executed with a mediocre technique.Kitsch? probably, postmodernism? Cant really see that. The mannequins, yes, but maybe it was just a mistake.So i approve it, i dont see it being very high on postmodernism scale.
>>7967335cause i am a massive pedophile
>>7966756like i said last thread, don’t take advice from someone who can’t paint in any capacity. you are better off just reading art manuals from last century
>>7968692>le scpectrumPostmodernist tripe. Fuck off.
>>7968696The pedo-cannibals spend quadrillions to push postmodernism, there is barely a soul untouched by it. It will take generations to cleans this sickness.
hello, fellow normal people I too harbor irrationally strong opinions of this rando /beg/ and desire to argue them on the internet
>>7968699we yes we all do this
>>7968696Now, don't be intentionally retarded, anon. People have regarded many things as having intrermediaries between two pounts on a scale, finite or otherwise, long before even modernism. You knew thos certainly, though.
I attended a 4 days life drawing class with Glenn Vilppu - it was amazing
>>7968865Finally a good post in this threadHope he'll live long enough so you can have another go at a class with him
>>7968695Post one thing you ever panted, heck post a painting you think is good and let me point at your ignorance.
>>7968924get raped, /beg/oomer
>>7968692Kek what fucking expert are you, you don't have a single clue what you're talking about. It has nothing to do with being post modern you fucking fraud.
>>7968687>he wants to be a french academicThis is literally what he doesn't want to be, that's what you midwidts don't get. You see art as technique masturbation because you lack the essential artistic and painterly talent.
>>7968929Exactly the kind of ironic performative self deprecating passive aggressive theatrics an intermediate spectrum closet postmodernist would engage in as he rolls around in his own shit while calling it Art.
>>7968927You paint like an untalented child. In every way.
>>7968932Your assessment was plain wrong, so called "expert". Which means that not only are you not talented in art, but that you lack even the basic knowledge of art history. Ask for your money back for that phony diploma.
holy fuck, have you ever read a biography this jewish
>>7968933thanks, I owned that perma/beg/
>>7968941The main emphasis is on "untalented".
>>7968942talent is something perma/beg/s made up as an excuse for their lack of effort and skill, I don't need talent because I have attained skill through effort
>>7968941lol he never painted like Raphael. More like: it took me 4 years to somewhat paint like an average 19th century academic painter, but a lifetime to paint like a child.
>>7968972Raphael and academic painters of the 19th century have nothing in common you piece of shit retard. Do yo even have eyes?
>>7968972>4 years to somewhat paint like an average 19th century academic painterYou say that like it's less of an accomplishment, Raphael would be mediocre in the 19th century.
>>7968991Why do you even paint/draw?Why are you even on this board at all?
>>7969015To make begtards seethe uncontrollably. Thank you for your service.
I hate how I am forced to paint thick when using imprimitura. I wished there was a way to combine both, but if I don't paint thick then I can't really create bright tones it seems, unless the imprimiture is already a bright tone.
>>7966832>>7967275X or insta?
>>7966046>>7966749>>7968047nice!
>>7969613I’m the top one Insta: billythomasiii.art X: billythomas3art
>>7969739holy shit, congrats on grinding out all that
Finding a good pen/nib-ink-paper combo is real hard. And im not even talking about a perfect combo, but just something that works good and is flexible enough for mixed-media.
>>7969937no it isn't, just get whatever nib style you like, any major brand indian ink and hot press 100% cotton of appropriate thickness
>>7969949Nice tip, could you show me your pen and ink art? Just pro forma.
>>7969957sure post yours first so I know you're genuine and not just butthurt
>>7969958I asked first.
>>7969961guess that answers that lol
>>7969822lol thanks. I drew a fuck ton during my last year of university because I had a lot of free time. I knew it would pay off
>>7969937>>7969957What exactly do you object to in that advice? What's "hard" about finding a nib, ink and paper for mixed media? What is it supposed to do for you that Indian ink and cotton HP won't do?
>>7969972>Indian inkToo dry and too thick most of the times, bad ink flow on my g nib.
>>7969974It's your technique and/or greasy nib/paper. Both Miura and Araki used western indian ink with dip pens, and nobody complains about bad indian ink flow on G-nibs.
I want to draw but my ink won't let me
These threads are a complete waste of time.
>>7968687At least it’s a direction to go in and a vision for some kind of style or genre. Better that than aimless studies. They’re full compositions with a value structure, I wouldn’t call any of them unfinished. At a point the subject matter could pivot to something besides what it is now but it’s presentable as original artwork and distinct pieces, none of them are compositionally similar even if the colors and tones are reddish in all of them. The similarity in color is likely just the materials he had while making these. Anyways “light years ahead of Brian” is an inherently retarded statement because I would hope any other artist isn’t “racing” me but going in an entirely unrelated trajectory than me.
>>7970357>lust provoking image>irrelevant time wasting post
The hardest thing about painting is still drawing. To me painting is really just a matter of finding a process which fits to you, and having the right materials.The drawing is the actually hard part.
>>7970480That's cool text, may we see your paintings?
>>7970481I already posted one
>>7970481I have to ad it probably depends on your style.If you paint very painterly, with thick brush strokes, then it probably becomes harder to make it look ok.
>>7970484bruh moment
>>7970484That's actually barely a painting. It's basically a colored drawing.
>>7970484That's not a painting, that's a flat colored drawing.
>>7970484>applies a premixed flesh color to a drawing>duuuuuuuuude painting is just a process and having the right tube of paint
>>7970489>>7970495>>7970496It isn't flat colored. There are clearly shadows, mid-tones and highlights.It's just a test painting and not very detailed and clean yet.I just recently found my render-process and just have to get into it more. Maybe I will also drop the imprimitura to make it look less flat.
>>7970502You're coping.
>>7970499>>7970503Just wait. I will be better than all of you here. You will admire me when I'm done with you.
So far to go, so far to go
>>7970502This is not how you paint and make a painting. Painting isn't just coloring your pencil work, it's a fucking struggle infront of the canvas/page.You have nice lines and some decent skill, but there is zero expression in your work, it's just tidy little animu kawai cool ironic shit. Grow up.
>>7970357I agree with you. The guy makes actual paintings and has a distinct style. Also the red might be from the photos probably being taken in natural daylight.
>>7970502>It isn't flat colored. There are clearly shadows, mid-tones and highlights.Thats not what it means. Your painting is very illustrative, its not necessary bad, but thats not really painting.You are downing krueging hard right now.
>>7970513>This is not how you paint and make a paintingIt totally depends on your style, fucktard.Some painters just go on the canvas and start applying paint. Other painters spend a ridiculous amount of time on drawing before actually painting.I've always focused mainly on drawing, not on painting. Drawing is way more difficult than painting anyway. >there is zero expression in your workWhat doy ou even mean by this? I paint what I like. I like dolls and that's what I expressed in the painting. Still better than to draw some random still life with random shit in it.You clearly have no clue what you are talking about and should PYW if you know it so much better.
>>7970519>thats not really painting.>>7970520
>>7970502>There are clearly shadows, mid-tones and highlightsNo there aren't, the fucking paper buckling over your lightest lights is as dark as your darkest shadows, all of which occupy like 2 value steps if we're generous and pretend the shadows aren't crushed in the photo as evident from your "flesh tint" tube (lol). Do you even squint, bro?
>>7970520>hurr durr but muh meme that I didn't bother looking into because I have an IQ of 62Ingres didn't even figure out color temperature until he was over 36, which we know because it was such a pivotal eureka moment, he wrote about it and completely changed his entire painting method. Did you even look at Ingres work?
>>7970520>In his volume of reminiscences, L’Atelier d’Ingres, Amaury-Duval records a lesson ofIngres’ :— ‘This is rather flat. . . . It lacks half-tones. . +. IT once painted like this... . Now I round my things. . . . Come, take care... . No one will understand. . . . Yes, certainly, it wants more relief.’*>What Ingres remarked was very true and very general. Every artist passes through a “‘ flat” period; some never get beyond it. Many artists— the best, perhaps—see modelling and relief more correctly as they grow older.>We may compare various portraits by Ingres in the Louvre, the ‘ flat” ones, Mons. and Madame Rivitre, and the “rounded” ones, Bertinand Chérubin
>>7970520You're quoting an actual painter not a fucking weakling illustrator. Look at one drawing of Ingres, it has nothing in common with your work. And it's not a matter of skill, but of artistic approach.Okay, you're an illustrator that likes to draw dolls, kudos to you, but you are not a painter as long as you have this weakling approach to art.
>>7970547et tu, ingres?
>>7970520the absolute irony of that pichttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-Portrait_Aged_24>The original version of Self-Portrait Aged 24 was exhibited at the 1806 Paris Salon. This painting was met with disheartening remarks from critics, prompting Ingres to declare that he would not exhibit again at the Salon>Ingres later reworked the painting sometime after 1850>Ingres reworked his original version of Self-Portrait Aged 24. Researchers at Centre de recherche et de restauration des musees de France have studied the painting at the Musée Condé, concluding that the original Self-Portrait is underneath this current surface.[1] Given the substantial changes that Ingres made, scholars have sometimes questioned why he did not simply complete a new workthat's one long hour
>>7970561>you are not a painter as long as you have this weakling approach to art.What are you talking about? There are many different ways how you can paint.Even if you paint no shadows and highlights at all, you are still painting, just in a more graphic style without rendering of highlights and shadows.>you're an illustratorYou don't even know what that means. Illustrators do commercial works for companies. I am an artist/painter because I do self-expression, not commercial advertisement or whatever.My painting actually has symbolism in it and expresses my feelings. You are just too retarded to see it.
>>7970520>>7970580You know words have meaning?
>>7970595Yes, and the word best fitting to you is "retarded".Painters isn't just about "muh rendering". When you grow up some day you will realize this
Anon, you're butthurt posting. Never butthurt post.Your assertion is retarded and literally not even Ingres agrees with it.
>>7970604You are envy posting because I am better than you
>doubling down on butthurtA novel play, to be sure.
It's always the same with illustration fags, they go crazy, if you say the obvious part.
>>7970600>Painters isn't just about "muh rendering"Thats what you get if you take the just draw too seriously. You can't be a good artist without a decent amount theory. I bet the guy draw for several years and he has no idea about the basics. The difference between drawing and painting is fundamental knowledge.
>MFW Pedo-chan BTFO all the /beg/ finger painters with skill and logic.
>>7970580No, historically illustration was a different thing from painting, it was used mainly for manuscripts and manuals before photography was invented. It is a lesser art form. What you are doing is illustrating, that is a fine illustration of a stylized doll. It is not, and has nothing to do, with real painting, a form that has infinite more complexities that illustration hasn't got to worry about.It might have a massage but you are not expressing any of it through the art form, it's all childish narrative. That's what you don't get when you shit on still life paintings, you're a midwit that comprehend that massage is expressed to the act of painting itself, not some sob story in your head.
>>7970628>it was used mainly for manuscripts and manuals before photography was inventedThat's literally what commercial advertisement is, dumbfuck. It's just a commodity layer which got erased through fotography. Doesn't change that it's commercial company work.You are full of shit, fuck off
>>7970632I am talking about the craft itself not it's use you desperate loser. Go draw your boring pedo toys like every other internet loser, someone might leave you a like.
>>7970632You think when people call your art illustrative, they mean that you are some sort of golden age American illustrator, doing work for a fashion magazine?Your painting is illustrative, what you do or not do is not relevant.>>7970628>No, historically illustration was a different thing from paintingThe really funny thing about it is, the first ever not illustrative painter in human history was Vermeer. Ironic innit?
>>7970632>illuminated manuscripts are commercial advertisementstop posting
>>7970633>>7970636>hurr every painting has to be made in oil otherwise it's not a painting!!!I still fail to see what you are even taling about.
>>7970636Complete horseshit, Velazquez beats Vermeer even under the most retarded definition you can conjure up to justify your niggerbrained claim.
>>7970643I guess that explains why greentext is some strawman you made up
>>7970643>I still fail to see what you are even taling aboutIt shows.
>>7970665>>7970667explain then whatt you meanwhy am i not a real painter? are my layer not thicc and juicy enough for you?
>>7970618You can know alot about art and still be complete shit since making art requires actual effort instead of just watching Youtube tutorials.
>>7970668You got an explanation, you're just stupid.
>>7970668for one thing, you didn't paint anything, you washed in color onto a drawingthere's literally no distinguishing information between your drawing sans color and your """painting"""your driving medium is ink and line, not paint and shape
>>7970678That's called drawing out and planning your painting instead of immediately sloppin away at the canvas and winging it like a retard.
>>7970681No, retard, it's not. Again, Ingres constantly stressed line and drawing as the basis of painting, do you see his fucking drawing in here? Is he drawing or painting?Now look at what you posted. You literally cannot be this unaware and I must conclude you're acting retarded on purpose.
>>7970678I did paint shadows and light plus colors for skin and used red for thinner skin. I just put another layer over it because I didn't like the original skin color and made the highlights more subtl.The additional skin layer + the imprimitura probably made it look a bit too flat, but at least I learned a few things making it.
>>7970681BTW this is what "drawing out and planning your painting" looks like, again by someone who stressed drawing again and again, you don't develop the drawing as part of the actual painting, it's a preparatory step
>>7970689That's not even me you gaslighting retard.And just because you can see lineart on the painting doesn't mean it's not a real painting.
>>7970692You're an autistic dumbfuck, the more you put down, the more it's going to help visually with the painting later on.
>>7970692Ingres was a master painter that's why he didn't need much lineart to do a great painting. He just drew with the paint instead. I never said I am on the level of Ingres. I still need my drawing to paint.
>>7970695That's literally the opposite of reality, you worthless nigger, it's why transfers are selective and why painters after David almost completely eschew grisaille, you can't paint light on top of a pile of useless shit underneath.
>>7970698>you can't paint light on top of a pile of useless shit underneath.Maybe leave the spots blank where you need to paint light? You seem like the type of guy to dry his brush outside of the paint bucket.
>>7970699That's not what painting light means and your nopaint analogy doesn't even make sense, have you ever even used a brush?
>>7970698>painters after David almost completely eschew grisaille, you can't paint light on top of a pile of useless shit underneathSorayama uses risaille technique and obviously has no problem with painting lightYou are just a traditionalist elitist. There are many different ways how to paint decently. Not every painting has to be a generic oil painting.
>>7970699>the more you put down, the more it's going to help with painting later on>noooooo you're supposed to put less down, it detracts from the painting later on!
>>7970703see >>7970699You can stop samefagging, btw, it's obvious from your lack of understanding common terminology
>>7970702>>7970704If you can't paint over a couple lines with some color then I'm afraid you are NGMI if that's too tough of a task for you to handle.
>>7970711That's funny, since the subject at hand is someone not being able to paint over lines with some paint lol
holy esl meltie
>>7970703>There are many different ways how to paint decentlySo what's your excuse?
>>7970718pyw or stfu
>>7970713I thought the subject was that it was not considered a painting, but you just said yourself they used paint so that means it's a painting.
>>7970723u mad?
>>7970724Behold, a painting
>>7970727You could have just posted a selfie since you're a clown with face paint.
>if you can see line art in in it, it's not a real paintingWow this general is literally retarded
>>7970728I'm not the one defining a ford 150 as a painting because it's covered in paint lol
>>7970733It's always the begtards that believe there are rules in art instead of them being guidelines to help.
>>7970689That's not the best example for being painterly, by the way.
>>7970738Well that might be why nobody called it an example of being painterly, IDK
>>7970733>things nobody said but I can argue againstvery cool, you nailed that strawman
>>7970738Van Gogh would have been a better pick.
>it's an esl replying to himself in broken english episode
>>7970739>>7970741Cope.
>>7970746skipping the strawman and just pretending you have an argument is an advanced move, very impressive
>>7970748What argument? You got jealous over their loli drawing like a weeb neckbeard and proceeded to have an autistic meltdown ever since.
>>7970742That's not what i meant. He is focused on form not light.
>>7970754>What argumentvery true, I accept your seething illustrator concession
>>7970755That's a really nice painting, but also certainly not how light usually gets portrait in art. That's more like a chiaroscuro painting with extreme light/shadow effects.
>>7970759It's painted from life.
>>79707551. Form is almost always, and certainly in Ingres' case, portrayed through light, you're conflating different ideas2. That's not what painterly really means in trad
>>7970761Doesn't mean it can't have a chiaroscuro effect. It's certainly not tenebrism but but still has some obvious play on light in it.
>>7970762In this case it means painterly, as a decorative element, which is not very important for art.The real difference is between the line and the visual.Ingres art is pretty much based on the line.>>7970765It is painted from life.
>>7970769>decorative element, which is not very important for art.fucking killyourself you fucking pleb
>>7970755You wish you could paint like that, noob.
>>7970770Die, dalit paki
>>7970772you're the on being outperformed by indian ai you stupid render monkey wannabe.
>>7970771I wish i could become a cute cat-girl.
>>7970774saar learn english saar do the learnful you fucking
>>7970775You don't deserve to be cute cat girl.
>>7971295Holy cow it's Super Himmler!
trying to learn how to paint (oils). Any crits for this?any general oil painting tips as well? been watching Nicolas Uribe streams and getting a lot out of it. I feel like I learn more by just watching someone skilled like that actually painting from start to finish over reading art books or watching tutorials or whatever.,
>>7971470I like the nose, but elsewhere the values are fucked and your shit's muddy. Look at the cast shadow, it's basically black, then your halftone is halfway to black with no second light or transition into the shadow. Try painting men or women without makeup first.
>>7971490thanks. yes I realized halfway into it that the make up ref was a bad idea; not doing that again.
>>7971470Hm I actually love the high contrast black shadows.
>>7971503To be clear, I'm not saying the black shadows are bad, I'm saying the value relationships don't support them, chiaroscuro is great, but you can't just make the shadow black and expect it to work
>>7971470Before even touching a brush, watch all 502 Paul Ingbretson videos. One can't produce art without knowledge.
>Before even touching a brush, watch all 502 Paul Ingbretson videos. One can't produce art without knowledge.
>>7971525Learn from my mistakes.
>>7971561like you being your moms first mistake
>>7971585From my mistakes.
>>7971561>LearnHeh. No.
>>7971470Wow nice job, looks pretty realistic! For my critique I'd say maybe put some more detail in the hair and the iris of the eyes.
ok
>>7971692back to /beg/
>>7971704Somebody is jealous lmao.
>for my critique □w□
>>7971712Nobody is jealous of a permabeg's opinion, fuck off with your reddit le add more le detail """"crit"""" you fucking dunning nigger
>>7970576I thought “well, this is a very solid self portrait” and then saw the original and immediately went “oh yeah I see why he altered it” lol. I can see why critics tore him a new one, obviously all we have is the copy his wife made and I’m basing myself off of that but the colors seem dull, there’s no real zone that your eyes dart to at a first glance, the stance is also awkward, I can understand why he chose it but it doesn’t work at all imo.
>>7971752>Poor little beglet is bitter and jealous when other anons are much better than him because it reminds him that he's a waste of life with no talent.
>>7972013shitposting won;t change the fact you're a nigger tourist who'll get bored in a week, i'm just here to let you know everyone can tell
>>7970755>muh painter of lightfuck off kinkade tier begshitter
>>7971525lmao since when did we have such a high def closeup of this, did you use AI to upscale it?
>>7970769retard. are you the paul talk retard from a thread ago?hey retard, you can't paint light or form. you can only paint, you know, with paint, you dumb stupid idiot. you can only mix paint on your palette not light or mass or form, dipshit.considering that, paint is pretty important as a part of the overall artwork. seeing as it's made of paint. dumb fuck
>9 days>231 posts>15 actual works posted if we count brian's phone screenshot of a picture of a painting from 2025
>>7972665yeah, it really is grim.
>>7972546Is that how people in your favela talk with each other?
Drew this the other day , detective stuff
>>7973050wow is that a conversation between 80IQ trannies with anime portraits!? wowzers!
>>7973050I saw some digital artists, who I didn't like, doing incredible traditional artworks, as if digital wasn't their main thing at all
>>7973109>I saw some digital artists, who I didn't like, doing incredible traditional artworksthats cap
brain of digital """artist""" ist too small, his hands are crocked and undeveloped, he cant focus on anything for longer than 15 minutes, before watching porn on a second tab, it is physically impossible for such a creature to create something of artistic worth
>>7972798thing on the left reminds me of the spiky rape demon from that one italian artwork
>>7973118digis are lowkey cooked fr based tradGODS can just mogmaxx with porn on the tv in the living room no cap
>>7973050Amazing how this shit is still going on, console wars but somehow even more insufferable and lame. Be normal and use both if you want or don’t, and shut the fuck up, tools are tools.
>>7973113>thats capNot at all. It happened like 2 or 3 times, so not so many.I remember this digital artist that was just making the usual bland stuff, maybe simple pinups (I don't remember as I was disliking it).In the gallery there was this single traditional piece: many figures from imagination were on it, not only incredibly well rendered with graphite, but who made them clearly had a very deep understanding of the anatomy.I remember the moment very well as I started to doubt if I could ever make it as a digital artist, if someone skilled like that was so mediocre in digital.
>>7972737*fucking slaps you*IT’S MADE OF PAINT, RETARDthe canvas or other substrate is just a support for the painting which is LITERALLY PAINT with raised bumps and valleys on the surface. of course brushwork and being “painterly” matters. you should be spanked until your ass is red for having the audacity to say otherwise
>>7973124Irony is intrinsic postmodern, therefore I despise you for using it.
>>7973134how ironic
>>7973133>IT’S MADE OF PAINT, RETARDSpeaking of paint, orange man lost again, migger.
>>7973132>It happened like 2 or 3 times, so not so many.What a shame, there is no place where people could exchange pictures or something, would like to see that.
>>7973136>how ironic
>>7973133heh, but what about the ones that are mostly megilp? you didn't stop to think of that that, did you, fake nerd?
>>7973156the pigment - the PAINT - is what REFLECTS LIGHT into your EYEBALLS
>>7973140jewish well poisoning
>>7973211>paints with dyes in you're pathnothing personnel, semanticuck
>>7973215>paints with dyesso you admit it’s still paint then? tardit’s not “semantics” that a painting is made of paint you postmodernist retard
>>7973217wrong
>>7973222then it isn’t a painting. checkmate
>>7973225then how come it moggs yours?
It's out!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMkxbE7Gl3Q
>>7973568500 more youtube videos and you'll get good at painting for sure
What would be an equivalent painting to pick related?
is everyone just in the draw thread these days or why is /trad/ so dead?
I tried to draw something I thought of, it is the painting
>>7973755Read the thread and you’ll see why
>>7974099What does it mean?
heyo, is there a torrent or a place to get high quality scans of traditional art?artists like Ludvig Kabell, Charles James Lewis, or John William Waterhouse
>>7974497least retarded ai trainer>waaaht?? uhm totally trying to look at them for myself
>>7974099every boomer family house ever:
Insane lad pt.2
>>7974497yandex ru search engine. it identifies higher resolution sources for each imagewikimedia commons is also useful
what do you think of soft light monochrome-hue portrait like this? Does it look weird compared to the usual monochrome watercolor portrait with crisp edges and negative space utilization?
>>7974980diffuse lighting is based, the problem is that it's difficult as shit and you're using a medium where it's already difficult as shit to control subtle value changes while clearly not being very good at painting in the first place so it looks mushy and flatlook at the neck an chin area, that's the easy part of the painting and you fucked it up, you need to go back to basics
>>7974980>what do you think of soft light monochrome-hue portrait like this?
>>7974986if i want to paint normally, without hue or monochrome painting, how do i keep the color temperature in cooler side? Should i use that blue as underpainting and paint on top of that portrait and apply some cadmium yellow, carmine, whatever and they will synchronize the temp by itself because I painted them on top of that blue underpaint? Or should i mix the color on palette with the blue before applying them to my paper?>look at the neck an chin area, that's the easy part of the painting and you fucked it upI know, and this sounds extremely stupid but I sketch that painting with a fineliner and flat brush because i want to imitate those oil painters, so...>>7974992I see, so the value is also the problem in here. I'll fix that in another painting then
>>7974994>if i want to paint normally, without hue or monochrome paintingI have no idea what you're saying, painting without hue in multiple colors is literally impossible >how do i keep the color temperature in cooler sideagain, no clue what you're asking in the above context>Should i use that blue as underpainting and paint on top of that portrait and apply some cadmium yellow, carmine, whatever and they will synchronize the temp by itself because I painted them on top of that blue underpaint?your entire paper is blue, niggayou can paint blue shadows and glaze that, but underpainting watercolor generally looks like shit>Or should i mix the color on palette with the blue before applying them to my paper?yes to the mix part, sometimes to the blue part, greens and violets are a better option depending on the situation, even just using earth colors instead will often be a better option"cooler" just means grey most of the time, and if you're going for peak temperature, you rarely want to use the base mix at all for the cool side when I say back to basics, I mean practicing full scale values in normal lighting without animu distractions
>>7974999okay thanks for the advice, i'll fix my next painting and keep that in mind
I recently took up oil painting (i'm using water soluble ones for now, Georgian from Daler Rowney).A day or so after first putting down the paint, there's a noticeable change in color. Specifically, many of the red hues in the skin tones seem to disappear, and my paintings appear much more yellow than they did the day before. There are brush strokes that I distinctly remember having a clear reddish hue when I put them down, and the next day it's like the red has just been drained from them. It appears to be a problem mostly where the red has been mixed with other colors; the highly saturated reds, like in the lips, still retain their redness pretty well.Pic related is the painting i'm working on right now. Notice the subtle red hues in the cheekbone and along the cleft of the chin and in the tip of the nose in the earlier one, and compare to how those same areas appear now, two days later -- are they not a lot more yellow? I've painted (and taken these photos) under pretty consistent light conditions. Is this normal or is it just shit paint I'm using or am I just imagining this? I don't clean the palette between sessions so the red I use to mix skin tones have been sitting on the palette for maybe a week. Could that be the issue; should I only use paint fresh out of the tube?wth i spent so long on these i want to reee nowplease don't knock the painting btw it's still in progress.
>>7975023>Uses meme-paints>Wonders why theyre shitBoy o boy, this water-oil shit all over again. Retarded boomer assholes brainfucked everyone with their toxins angst.Use proper paints, at least do not delude them with water while painting. It worked for 500 hundred years just fine, nobody died, okey, you will not die eighter.Pedophilic cannibals are raping your land and you are afraid of white spirit fumes, lol, really?
>>7975023P.S. titanium or sinking in could be responsible for a hue shift as well, but still
>>7975039thanks for the reply. i am in fact using titanium white. what is sinking in?I guess i'll just get regular oils, then. I just figured these were an easy place to start, especially since I don't really have a dedicated room I can paint in and where my stuff can dry. Can I use those odorless oil paint thinners or are they a meme also; do I have to use turpentine?And can I get by with just a thinner or do I need a medium like linseed oil as well? I wan't to keep things as simple as possible for myself as I'm learning.
>>7975046>what is sinking in?Its a broad topic, you will have to look up yourself, just paint by golden is a good resource for it. In short, canvas pulls the oil out of the paint layer, the painting gets dull and mate, can cause value and hue shifts.>I guess i'll just get regular oils, then. You can finish your water oil paints, its not a bottle neck for your art right now, just dont use water while painting.>odorless oil paint thinnersSure, the ones from hardware store stinck like shit and couse dizinnes. Turpentine is fine, it smells good actually. But by the one thats filtered, otherwise it will leave a sticky film behind after drying.In generall use artist grade thinners.>And can I get by with just a thinner or do I need a medium like linseed oil as well? No, thinners in thick paint application caouse hue and value shifts after drying as well.Thinner there for cleaning your brushes and to establish a wash in the beguinning. Many people use mediums with thinners in upper layers, i would consider it old school (not renaissance old school, more cringe boomer old school) and unnecessary.>I wan't to keep things as simple as possible for myself as I'm learning.I can recomend pic related, no smell, no fumes, good consistence, no yellowing. The only downside is the weak sunflower oil base.
>>7975052>sunflowersafflower
Thats titanium darkeninghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JegX-EUUQTQ
>>7975052>You can finish your water oil paints, its not a bottle neck for your art right now, just dont use water while painting.Ah, so you're saying it's the mixing with water that's causing the hue shift? I only use water to clean the brush between strokes, though? irt sinking in, I'm not sure that's it either; I paint on a heavy watercolor paper prepared with a single layer of gesso.Just went and got pic related, hopefully that'll serve me better.
>>7975106>>7975058got the zinc white btw so hopefully that's not susceptible to darkening in the same way.
>>7975106>Ah, so you're saying it's the mixing with water that's causing the hue shift?It could be, maybe not. If you used water only for brush cleaning, it's obviously not the reason for the shift. But using solvents in thick paint layer applications is bad praxis, in general.>I paint on a heavy watercolor paper prepared with a single layer of gessoAnything but oil ground will pull oil.And it's not necessary a bad thing. Gesso ground supposed to pull oil, to make a stronger bond. Applying a thin layer of oil (couching) before painting can prevent sinking in.In the end, who knows. Generally oil paint is very stable, that the best thing of oil paint, it stays the same after drying. You are doing something wrong, who knows what. Using boomer paints makes figuring out what exactly youre making wrong harder.
>>7975116lol are you saying the new Schmincke ones I got are boomer as well or just the water solluble stuff?
I'm still a beginner, about over a year now since I began taking art seriously and trying to get a grasp on the fundamentals. Despite my past and present efforts, I just can't get into digital art. I like the tactical feel of trad art and the fact that you can easily hit undo, makes me consider what I do before I do it.Anyway, all crits welcome. Will post sketches I did today. For now, here's a piece i did like last week I think.
>>7975118I'm also a boomer so apologies for the sizing issues. I'm retarded and I accept that about myself.I've just started studying anatomy and I found it has improved my structure yet I still struggle with the brow ridge and mouth muzzle.
>>7975117Norma is student grade, its okey, i hate the consistency, though. They have way too much oil. I would not buy german products, low quality and overpriced. Dutch brands are better, for now at least.>>7975118>Anyway, all crits welcome.You need more control over your medium. So, just draw, better from life.
>>7975122aight. appreciate the help. I'll experiment and see if I can't get to the bottom of why my reds disappear.
>>7975129What red have you used?
>>7975134you know, I thought it was cadmium red, but looking at the tube, turns out it's some imitation mix, I think? Maybe that's why it's shit?
>>7975141Hue is nuspeak for imitation.Modern synthetic pigments, generally they are lightfast and inert, but who nows.P.S. well hue is actually old news, the cannibals invented a new trick, the new trick is called fuck you, we can do what we want. Yellow Ochre on the tube, no Yellow Ochre in the tube, what are you gonna do about it?
>>7975150lol. eventually ill just buy pigments and mix my own paint, i guess.
>>7971295this is amazing. when I think of myself drawing, I see this in my head. and what comes out of my hand looks like a 10 year old's doodles. I have so much work to do but thanks for reminding me its possible.
>>7975317>I see this in my headNo, you don't
>>7975118digital art is graphic design but with pen pressure, naturally you'd have to understand something like softwares and such before you could do some digital art otherwise you can only draw a sketch or line art in there. For example, if in traditional medium you have to mix some yellow and red to make a skin color, in digital art you have to paint in grayscale layer first and put the skin color layer on top of that grayscale layer with opacity setting of multiply, or overlay, or soft light to make that skin color works depending on what you want to do in there, and in order to make 'red' blush to avoid the monotonous flat in your skin, you have to make another layer with hard light opacity setting and paint on that layer. Its literally a graphic design, but instead of a mouse you use a stylus pen for that
>>7975522Greyscale is called Grisaille and nothing exclusive to digital. You can color however you want in digital. Doesn't have to be grisaille.
>>7975023What pigment is the red paint made of? Maybe it's some particularly awful pigment + the fact it's a cheap brand + being water-soluble
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>>7975528>greyscale is called [greyscale, france]you are incredibly faggysorry, I mean le pédé magnefique
Did this study earlier in the week. All crits welcome.Been trying to improve my proportions, I believe my issue begins with the block in stage, I've noticed that I use competing systems of measurement so I would continuously shift things around and then in frustration I'd just render the portrait.Then when I'm rendering the portrait I feel that something is off so I try to correct it and end up just erasing and redrawing multiple times. I plan to address this by not going on autopilot, spending a longer time in block in stage (double and triple checking my measurements) and not giving in to doubts and just proceeding with the rendering because I reckon if the block in is tolerably accurate then the rendered piece shouldn't have the proportional issues I so often have.Any tips anons?
>>7975684
>>7975556>>7975141
>>7975660in terms of proportions, the middle third of the face (i.e. the nose) is too long. That's a hard one to catch, though. Sometimes it can be helpful to look at the angle between the edge of the nostril and the outer corner of the eye to gauge that proportion specifically.As a general critique, I'd also push the edge of the core shadow (i.e. where the shadow meets the light) darker than the rest of the shadow plane. The entire bottom plane of the nose needs to be darker in general, also. Make the core shadow in the tip of the nose darker than the nostril, even.Otherwise this is pretty good, I would say. If you just saw the drawing, you'd think the mouth was misaligned as well, but that's just the ref, obviously.
>>7975787oh yea and this part, idk what it's called, seems to be slightly off from the vertical center line of the face.
>>7975023firstly, unless these photos are taken with a decent DSLR or other prosumer level camera and using a color checker, the utility for comparison is going to be very limitedsecondly, paint can "sink" if it is applied too thinly or the ground isn't properly prepared.thirdly, WMO aren't oil paints and don't behave like them and do unexpected stuff. I wouldn't even bother, just order some oil paints and do drawings in the meantime>>7975052imo (second best artist here after Brian) WMO teach bad practices that will end up having to be unlearned when you move to actual oils>the fumez!!!!11!just use gamsol, if you still have issues you are not a serious person and real artists should cull you and steal your art supplies
>>7975783Ah my bad. Those pigments are kind of ass as it turns out so that may be part of the problem.You should buy paints with genuine single-pigment cadmium red (PR108) or pyrrole red (PR254) anyway then.
>portrait is a painting with something wrong with the mouth.Did Sargent actually say this? What did he mean with it? Its not like he couldnt paint mouths.
I once bought fat, slow drying medium but I dont know whats in it (it was some kind of refill) Should I ditch it? It works fine and I bought it at an art academy though.
>>7975886you will never be me
>>7975955Heh... Should we tell him?
>>7975955What is even your question? You bought a medium, it works, but you want to throw it away?You fucker would do anything to have an excuse not to draw.
>>7976013>putting your retarding medium in a drawingshiggy diggy
if your arent rich its over for youhttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/qeHcJp1YqMY
>>7976144can't even make it through this effeminate faggotry, what is your point exactly
if your arent rich its over for youhttps://youtu.be/Q55LXTbcjX4
Lads, I just made 700 bucks selling small oil paintings on an art market.... I fucking made it!
>>7976183nice
>>7975886thanks, yeah I went and got some regular oils and some odorless thinner and I think I'll paint with that going forward. I'll also do double layers of gesso instead of a single layer on the paper I'm using. Hopefully that'll solve or mitigate the hue shift issue.>>7975932Unfortunately the new oil paints I got yesterday also have double pigments for the cadmium red (PO20 PW4) and yellow ochre (PY42 PBr24). Hopefully they'll be all right, and if not, I'll make a third trip to the art store, I guess, and get some pure cadmium red.I miss drawing, it was a lot simpler lol
>>7976191the cad red is cad orange + white, pr108 and pr20 can overlap somewhatit's not ideal, but it is cadmium and it is presumably redthe yellow ochre is yellow ochre plus a chrome titanite or whatever it's called, it is essentially yellow ochre with more chroma, it's not a bad mixmultiple pigment paints get a bad rep for very circumstantial reasons, it's only been like 50 years since paint producers even started disclosing pigments, all of them were stretching expensive pigments prior to that
>>7976209>pr20*po20
>>7975957who are you? no one knows you. brian is the best artist here, followed by me (when i posted my work i got told it was "AI" and i didn't really paint it), followed by the himmler poster, who would be the best artist if he wasn't limited to drawingswho the hell are you? i walked brian up on stage a decade ago. i've been on /ic/ since the beginning. who the hell are you? this thread is one of the most important places in all of 4chan. you're nothing
>>7976191it's probably adequatei should have specified that you should never buy anything but artist grade paints under any reasonmultiple pigment paints are bad because, again, they behave differently than the pure pigment paints. and artists have the 'tism and don't like when unexpected things happen.
>people thinking your formless mush is ai is a recognition of skillHoly cope
>>7976330>multiple pigment paints are bad because, again, they behave differently than the pure pigment paintsnopaint reddit memeevery pigment behaves differently and needs to be learned in its own right and convenience paint is no different, you’re not gonna be any more surprised by a convenience paint than trying to use prussian blue while only being familiar with ultramarinenaples yellow was one of the most ubiquitous paints for centuries and nobody was confounded by how it mixes because they used it and knew how it behaved
>>7976399Multipigmented yellow ochre or cad is not a convenience mix, you godless retard, its a low quality scam.
>>7976409except it is, nopaint, the PY42 alone will be a different color without the PBr24, so if that’s the color you actually want, you’d need to mix itnaples yellow was a pigment before a convenience paint and nobody got le confused by itshifting the hue and boosting the chroma of earths is not an uncommon practice, mussini raw sienna is four fucking pigments, learn to paint
What is a good way to clean an older painting to give it another pass? Solvents are too aggressive, but anything with water sounds wrong as well.
Anyone have reccomendations for a handheld vaccum to clean up charcoal dust? Tired of having black snot.
>>7976777Wear a mask, Chud.
new: >>7976862
i'll have the last word
>>7975106I've just started painting in oils. Bought Schmincke Norma paints but I am finding them much too wet or thin or whatever the right painting term is. I am thinking of buying different ones that are thicker or whatever from a different brand. Any suggestions for oils paints that have a nice consistency or anyone know of any sites that rank and describe different brands of oil paints, perhaps? My local art store has a pretty wide selection of brands, but there doesn't seem to be something like an ingredients list on the tubes that will tell me the ratio of pigment to oil?
