If you are a /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.DO NOT REPLY to crabs, nodraws, over-analyzing schizos, retards that whine about how hard drawing is or talent debates and instead focus on posted works!>Post Your Work>STICKY:New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0QHardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?viewHardcore (working link): https://hackmd.io/@ArtStudies/rJxNW6aonHardcore (wayback archive):https://hackmd.io/@0uRfwdEoRDiHFz9wibb5sA/ry8nyys6-lCompleted(short):https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jUeG8UTwDAK8WGC4f79IlBGIAGVipfHvo48RF5Xgxyc (sus discord server don't join)Completed: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vm4IJpq0Mbvb-Krl5_mJ_m6TsC_qjsaN/vieww/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/>WHERE to get study materials>>>/ic/artbook>>>/ic/video>Want to practice figures?quickposes.comcharacterdesigns.comlovelifedrawing.composemy.artline-of-action.com>best art teachersGlenn VilppuMichael HamptonSteve HustonBrent EvistonMarco BucciAndrew LoomisGeorge BridgmanHikaru HayashiHide Sensei>best art booksKeys To DrawingDrawing With the Right Side of the BrainHow To Draw Comics the Marvel WayThe Art and Science of DrawingFramed PerspectiveFigure Drawing For All It's WorthThe Complete Guide to Drawing From LifePrevious thread: >>7969989
i was the last one to post on the last thread so i'll out my stuff hereA master study after Greg Capullo
>subject missing
>>7973308and again, a head
damn already mogged hard
>>7973305>Pomni assP-peak...
Is it possible to draw good on gimp?I want to try Kitra but I don't want to pay for it.
>>7973316Krita is free and it is perfect. Gimp is for image editing not drawing/painting.
>>7973319This will take some time to get used to but I will try it, and post more anatomy practices here.One day I aspire to draw quality furry porn for my own intentions and fetishes.
Okay I woke up
>>7973324Cute boy
>>7973322Remember to customize your shortkeys: Do, undo, Increase brush, decrease brush,mirror view, and eraser mode. Those are my main 6 shortcuts. That helps a lot to speed up the learning curve and draw fast.
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>>7973331REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>7972984>>7972963Continued it just there, rushed through it but kept layers clean so ill be able to fix it or paint tomorrow.
>>7973335i can already see 5 mistakes and her left arm is way off. also forgot to do detailing on the jacket. whatever.
Can i get some pointers before I ink and color?
i think it's my best one yet
>>7973337Only thing I'd change is the bend of her legs.
>>7973342nice but it looks like the scale of the miltank is a bit off. they should be bigger relative to the bench. unless it's a young one.
>>7973343 young and drunk!? Unfathomable
>>7973322You may want to go into the settings and bind your eraser hotkey to Toggle Eraser Preset. By default, hitting your eraser hotkey will "invert" your current brush into being an eraser. By changing the hotkey, your eraser will become an actual eraser brush instead.
>>7973348My pen comes with an eraser, it autodetected and I can erase with it, how handy!
using real life references is so much more difficult
I stopped drawing two months ago after you told me i suck. What do i do know?
>>7973340Thanks sensei
>>7973337Drawing itself is solid and cute but i'm not a fan of the card's design. Particularly the description to drawing ratio. I like CF Vanguard's design it has a bigger illustration ratio compared to the description
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today I woke up with an idea for a comichere's one possible design for a character
>>7973370german bro?
>>7973368But I’m not gay
>didn't make the collage
>>7973372probably not, I'm not sure who that is
>>7973376its always some nigger choosing his discord clique over people actually just participating in the thread
>>7973378Seethe more, bitch.
>>7973378There is no clique. When you make the thread you get to pick the art you like.>t. made the thread
Any thoughts on this notan attempt? I don't think it conveys a hero aura well but that's where the darks are so idk
>>7973380>There is no cliqueEl OH EL
>>7973335>>7973335the problem is that you didnt get the shape of her torso and then placed fhe elbow where you did in proportion to the tit and far shoulder, but its just piling up mistakes
>>7973305Time for outline
>>7973384what did he mean by this?
If you're wondering who griefed your base and killed your dog in the minecraft server, that was mePerhaps now you can focus more on your art instead of your silly cube world game, dont you think?
ill never be japanese...
why the shading look so amateur bruhs
I'm finally finished! Spent many nights on this for the whole week. Last night I stayed up until 3 am coloring it, woke up at 6 and finished it in the 45 min before I had to run to work, so I couldn't check the photo and see that Sana's face was that faded.I'd like to make art like this regularly eventually, but this one took so much out of me that I'm gonna be a bit simpler for my next few. At least try a more abstract background next time, though I've never done that sort of thing before
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>>7973335respect the 3 dimensionality like you are trying to do it for the red tassel things but ignore it for the ribbon itself>>7973376>he didn't even make it into the token prebeg humiliation spotsit is truly ogre
>>7973370another
>>7973402Some things i notice:1. Your brush is too soft, try using a more defined brush and define bolder edges. Squint your eyes and merge some similar looking values to simplify it2. Weird lightning, the dragon is weirdly well lit in a cave3. Unbalanced focal point, because his left wing is very bright it kind of takes the attention of the whole piece
>>7973370>>7973414/adv/ nigger begone
>>7973422not even close to advanced level dumb beggy
>>7973402because the shapes of the color patches suck balls, the lines suck balls and you should blend the soft plane transitions.
What do you guys think of this
>>7973438very cute!!
>>7973438would mating press it
>>7973340>>7973367How's this?
>>7973446Text version
>>7973446Very cute! I like it. I still think the texts are too big but i guess it's more nitpicky than anything
i drew this cow-girl, how is it ?
>>7973461looks male
>>7973461throat goat(cow)>>7973404only fings it lacks is darks, lineart with a pen or something would fit it well, it's trad so no mistakes allowed, I understand
>>7973474Yeah I was scared enough using the alcohol markers on her clothes and hair especially, but I've gotten a lot more comfortable with it through this art project.I think I'll make abstract backgrounds and using the pen a focus in my next few art attempts
>join random obscure discord server>this is what the average post is likeholy shi... /ic/ is a completely dead board with 5 other schizos talking to each other for decades..
how's this creepy man look?
>>7973486I mean we have /beg/ tier TADC art too, if that’s what you feel like is missing from your experience
my first attempt at a sideways profile
>>7973340>>7973337draw through your shapes niggas. It helps a lot for continuity. Calve doesn't look like it connects with the thigh at the knee.
>>7973390Yeah I'm not sure what I couldve done to catch that earlier as i actually put quite a bit of effort in trying to get the torso correct. Did a lot of construction and repetition until it looked correct, placed a horizon line (around the shoulder) to make sure i wasnt seeing stuff wrong. I think its just a matter of practice that, the compounding mistakes with it. Unless theres a way of measuring proportions different to what i do that gives better guarantees (i use plumb lines and follow angles between unrelated shapes). I don't think I'll redo the torso since It's not waay off and looks believable.>>7973411Oh, right, this was actually a side effect of my brush being a bit too thick and me wanting to get done, in that it felt too hard and unnecessary to draw it. Same with a few other places lacking that, I'll fix those next. Thanks :)
>>7973305Testing out some charcoal/inkwash type of art since I got mentally burned on gaming for a bit, haven't done much of this type of work with gimp and going for more trad-art look (think diterlizzi/frazetta/brom), to think that GIMP could do this and I didn't find the answers in the toolsets before now is a fucking war atrocity level criminality of hiding in plain sight level of a troll. I only used a mouse and some editing/adjusting and layering effects with some brush modality and layer modality changes to achieve the results. Holy fuck its time intensive but it does work in a simple way. (Won't finish the piece I think its a decent study already on the construction of said image and I learned what I needed from it.) I mainly have done just pencil sketching prior and can say this is 100% out does everything I've done prior by a mile and man... I want to bash my head against the wall for not figuring it out sooner.(it was a technique/tool study rather than proper anatomy study inb4 criticism on that front.)
i want to draw cuck porn but i'm too shy posting about it
>>7973534In spite of it being simplified I really like how you handled the ocean painting, it's very appealing
>>7973542Have you tried NOT BEING A BITCH?
>>7973545Yeah I made myself do it in just 30 minutes, a render monkey brain always wants to go further so you gotta limit yourself here and there
>>7973542Post your cuck porn, cuckie.
>>7973542What if I posted your cuck porn?
>>7973380>he doesn't know The clique is pissed right now that you made the thread instead of one other own doing it by the way
>>7973542Hey, I'll post mine tomorrow. So you won't have to feel shy posting yours.
I CANT DRAW.I AM TIRED OF SEEING ARTISTS IMPROVE. FAGS ON TWITTER SHOWING HOW THEY MADE IT FROM PREBEG TO PRO IN A FUCKING YEAR OR TWO.I WANT TO FUCKING SURRENDER. FUCKING AAAAAAAA WHY THE FUCK WAS I BORN TALENTLESS.I WANT TO GET BETTER AS WELL.
>doing chinese anatomy course>even the worst participant is miles better than methis sucks dude
>>7973590Welcome to the club buddy
>>7973594Asians seem naturally gifted when it comes to art
>>7973590desu that's all creative fields. ppl with thousands of hours going OMG I'M SO BAD. they don't realize how far they've gotten from zero.
>>7973598'naturally gifted' is just high iqretards get filtered
>>7973579>>7973569i don't have anything to show (yet)
i dont smoke
could start in 2013 but wasn't too motivated...technically i wasted more than 10 years and the golden era of digital art before generative AIdsi dont even care now if my art is bad, at least i can have some fun with a pen before im kill
>>7973513nice job on the face!But don't forget that the cranium is slightly wider in profile view. You need to add more to the back of the head.Here's a quick edit. (I made the head longer and changed the neck so that it connects right behind the ears)
>>7973605What does drawing or painting have to do with IQ? Some of the dumbest fucking people I know end up going into art degree programs.
>>7973615Thank you so much anon! This is extremely helpful. That looks a lot more natural
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>>7973590Heh I’ll keep improving.
After starting the hide course for heads, I want to apologize to the constructionGODS. This course sucks, the guy draws on pure feeling. I only started doing it because of the hype, but soon I will be back to Krenz pills and to better construction fundamentals.
>>7973590Have you ever thought about... just drawing, you know?
>>7973619anytime, anon!
>>7973438armpit slutlicking and fucking those shoulders hmmm
>>7973633can you elaborate why hide sucks
likeness check? I need tips on conveying hair and facial har
>>7973633I empathize because no matter what I do I end up massively deviating from construction lines. You can see on the right one how far I shifted the head up and to the left. I just have no idea how to use it rigorously. It feels so chaotic and inconsistent but I don't know how to fix.
>>7973653eyebrow maybe
>>7973661Another curve up? to emphasize the emotion? I thought it looked straight going into the bridge
>>7973664I think, to capture the essence of the ref, it's more important to use the eyebrows to frame the eyes rather than trying to exactly match the shape of the eyebrows.
>>7973648The teaching sucks, not the teacher. Inconsistent references, very little material prepared, arbitrary lines/decisions all the time, fixes drawings without explaining why, etc. For a video course, he falls short in many things until the lesson I did. Very painful to follow him, and his course is a lot of "don't just watch, draw with me".
shit I think I made him less gosling-like fuck>>7973661I'll keep that in mind, copying so much I forget to exaggerate
>>7973679you made the silhouette of his face too linear/angular in this version i think
>>7973660Nice drawings!I think the more I do it with construction, the better and more confident I get in drawing with less or even without the construction. In general, I'm very methodical to properly learn things first, so the hide style of teaching is too chaotic for me.Krenz, for contrast, has a high standard for accuracy and proportions and uses fundamental methods to project drawings into perspective.
last one, gotta know when to stop I just wanted to sketch a quick likeness
AHHHH IT'S TOO HOT TO DRAW
2.5 hours of colouring in the lines. anybody got any tips to speed up the process?
>>7973696https://assets.clip-studio.com/en-us/detail?id=1759448
>>7973699Turns out Krita also has this built in. This could have saved me hours of work XD thanks Anon
>>7973335contd.I want to do a seperate "lineart" layer on top of this to fix the line weight issues as well as add a bit more 3 dimensionality to it, whichll get easier using thinner lines. Is this a good idea or should i instead try something like make a backup copy and manually thin lines with the eraser? After that id like to color it, but i have no experience coloring at all. Should i try shade first then colormap? or straight to coloring? and do i just pick colors and go or make a palette first?
>>7973702i dont think there is a correct answer to how to do lineart. i think you should experiment with both techiques if you are curious.
>>7973689IM HOTMY BOOB AND BOOTY IS HOT
>>7973688>>7973679NANOMACHINES SON
>tried to draw a cylinder inside a cube>1 point perspective>success, but bottom ellipse have enormous distortion, looks unpleasant>calm myself, analyse it using all my learned knowlegde>"oh yeah, it is out of the cone of vision... My 45 degree for cube is too steep, meaning my station point is too close making the cone radius small. If instead I had planned and shoot my 45 very far, the cone would grow and the elippses would look good in the new perspective"I hate studying... However, it feels absolutely fucking good after you acquire knowledge of shit.
>>7973720Love to see new developments cubeandcylinderbro. Keep it up.
the shittiest drawings are the most fun to draw>>7973720>>7973633>>7973612>>7973594>>7973590>>7973399>>7973394>>7973360pyw>>7973542lowkey me too
>>7973725i ctrl z'd the fucking eyelashes FUCK FUCK ME
I'm dropping this SECRET /pro/ SERVER invite to TROLL them by inviting /beg/s! See if you can GET IN!.gg/R3NtN4Sbch
>>7973633I will never understand why people suck Hides cock so hard. Have you seen his ""illustrations""?He'd make a good inbetween animator, but his art is pure fucking /int/ at best.
>>7973702>>7973705Need some help here. Excuse the wobbly lines its just a showcase. On the left I increased line weight for the whole face outline, and then even more where the face overlaps the gun. On the right I didnt increase lineweight where it doesnt overlap anything. Are either of these right? It doesn't feel right.
>>7973742because it seems like a reasonable goal for people starting out, instead of something like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_q9cJIn9DTk
>>7973749I should probably add that I'm doing this with krita's basic 'size' brush which varies size by pressure. Is this a good way to do it? Maintaining pressure isn't THAT hard but I feel like there may be a better way.
I think I'm done with my cat fool. I tried figuring out how to fix colour banding, but neither Krita nor GIMP have a band dither filter.
OJOU-SAMA*HUFF HUFF*BRATTY*HUFF HUFF*GLASSES AND BISHOP-SLEEVE BLOUSE*HUFF HUFF*20 DENIER AND PENCIL SKIRT*HUFF HUFF*HEELS*HUFF HUFF*
>>7973758Looks great :)
>>7973762give me your blog
>>7973513Another anon pointed it out already, Im just sharing a resource for clarity's sake. Its good overall, Id just rec. to keep pic related in mind to try and avoid the 'egyptian eye' and refine your E lines and you are gold.
>>7973762Damn that’s really good
How to feet?And related question: how do you know how much detail to include? For instance, the veins look weird, but I'm not sure if that's a pure skill issue or they should have been omitted entirely
>>7973305/ic/ finally dead...I am free...
>>7973392this was inspiring , really niceany ideas how to position rins head so it looks less forced? was thinking on raising the shoulders but not sure. Also fuck hands
>>7973685Thanks anon that sounds like exactly what I'm looking for. I can usually get to something I like with lots of erasing, but it just causes problems drawing the same character from imagination. I think I need something rigorous like that.
>>7973762blog
Which illusion got you through the day today
>>7973418Im new to dichital. I was having nice results with dem brushes like I made pic rel but with this one I was trying to use that weird soft brush thingy are those shit? like that one that's circular and becomes more transparent at the edges thingy very soft. i thought maybe people used it for realism. True on the other things you said though.>>7973430tru
>>7973859>Which Dellusion got you through the day todayftfy
epic tits!!!11
>>7973041>Thanks peril. Erotic figure; maybe its personal taste but if there were a pair of hands groping the tits and another enveloping the waist, it would be even hotter. The middle section feels a bit empty.THANK YOU!!! I added a few more hands for you! hee-hee!>>7973053>more like GROPEBOXyour style is great for those surreal type of drawings, though that sounds like a backhanded complement=) Thank you!!!! You're my favorite artist here!>>7972967>Are you a /beg/ or an /int/? Seems like you have everything figured out, and I was wondering what the purpose was of you posting in this thread.Sometimes I'm a /beg, other times a may step a little bit into /int, it depends on my mental state. But I get what you say, I asked the same to other advanced artists here, and they still post here. I feel that I can just post stuff here without any second thoughts, or worries. I like the humor and the community.>>7973354Extraordinarily Beautiful face!!!>>7973392This has to be my favorite work from you yet. I love her faces and bodies. Amazing start>>7973396Fucking hot!>>7973461Fucking incredible work as usual!>>7973534You're truly amazing!>>7973660SAVED!!!!>>7973859Not illusion, but intense emotional drive...
The onions reference vs the chad guesswork...
>>7973876Onions?
yo onions
>>7973877...Onions
>>7973749Ok i gave it a try, not really sure if I'm doing it right but I think it looks ok...
>>7973892https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PukN5SuJTsespecially the latter points might be relevant to you
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>>7973908Alright, I think I understand, thanks. Most of these seem to be a matter of practice so I'll continue along but I'll follow the tip for drawing connected lines and erasing as well as not continuing an incomplete lines from within it. Thanks again.
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>>7973461Pretty cool! You followed that tutorial for the manga rendering look with default krita bruhses, for this, didn't you? (Been meaning to try that out).I quite like the character, though something about the proportions kinda jumps out to me. I measured and it all seems to check out. So perhaps it the neck length/thickness? Not too sure. I think that might be why >>7973464 said male.Cool to see how you resolved the nose. It made me go back and take another stab at this character, I was trying to draw for a comic. Fucking hands are still kicking my ass, though.
Could I get some feedback on this pose? I've been trying to make it more natural but I'm kinda stumped.
Trying out a new brush: it fucks. I think I'm getting better at rendering in gray. Wish I was faster though.I feel like everything is muddy though, is it a problem with the values I'm choosing, or am I not good enough at it yet?>>7973874way hotter now>>7973935Maybe have her leaning/putting weight on the spear? A lot of the poses you've been doing have been pretty samey.
pose copy practice
>>7973941And I am copying poses from Issa Kawaguchi's "Girl Illustration Pose Collection," in case anyone is interested.
>>7973874i appreciate your compliments every time and also you should draw more buttholes your drawings of the ass are hot
Some studies from the Morpho face, head and neck book. I'm only copying drawing that I don't find repulsive (which is very few)Seriously why does he construct heads in such a disgustingly ugly way? Is it because he's french and therefore honor bound by his ancestors to release some kind of evil into the world?
I tried a 4x4 grid as someone suggested to me.I guess I'm gonna just keep doing these grid studies.
>>7973953nicepay attention to the line weights too, they are importantalso, if you feel confident, you can move on to 3x3 or even 2x2
What is the purpose of copying, even with a grid? Are you training spacial awareness, or does it just make it harder when you dry to draw without the grid? And are you missing out on important fundamentals like construction, or does it not affect your learning negatively?
>>7973959It's snake oil
>>7973943Hey I bought that book just the other day
>>7973959I do think that copying improves your "eye" i.e. your ability to intuitively see mistakes as you are drawing
>>7973959being sensitive to angles and proportion will be very important once someone tackles perspective and formit's part of why you see those horrid boxes that never converge their parallel lines properly
>>7973961:D we're book buddies
>>7973959Talentlessfags think it will somehow improve their permafucked spatial awareness>it wont.
can i get some help with understanding heads? im doing tenten's course and the head/face stuff is throwing me for a tizzy
>>7973892Ok, done. I think it's ok here so I'll do painting next. Can anyone suggest how? The 3 methods I know are:1. Paint (choose every colour, no layers, no opacity)2. Flats layer -> Shading layer -> Highlights layer3. Shade -> Colorramp -> Highlights layerAre there any other options? Which is best for a beginner? I've literally never done any of these.
>>7973310I dont like what you ddi with the mouth, slightly off angled too, also might have to put some lines above her eyebrow or on her forehad that show her expression that you really pushed. Granted it would maybe make her more ugly aka older.
>>7973762I hate office bitches. Fucking waste of space.
>>7973979which course? I know only of his book, and it shows different construction shorthands for different types of heads
>>7973983>it wasn't supposed to be a bodiless head with hair strand legsAww :(
>>7973874ₕₐₙd
>>7973989his 2023 and 2024 video courses, he uses a cube rather than the loomis method
>>7973983I think it's best for beginners to draw the shadow terminator (blue) and highlights (red), like animatorsthat whay you spend less time on rendering or messing with layers, and focus on understanding form
>>7973990kek. If you go back the replies you'll see the reference.>>7973999As in not to paint at all and instead block out the shapes for shadow and light and whatever in between?
>>7974002yes, but just indicate shadow places and highlight places, do not bother with the 'in between'half-tones are nice, but they can be come much later (or never, which is often the case in animation)
Tried a different shading style since I’ve got some critiques on how I usually do it, I still want to get good at a more painterly style shading but at least I’m much quicker at cell shading and hopefully it’s not just because I’m bad at it
>>7974005Alright, I'll give that a go. Thanks.
>>7973999shadow whatthose animator pics look kinda complicatedalso clean lineart is an impossible challenge for a prebeglet
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Man, even just doing simple sketches like this takes me way too long. Hopefully by the time I finish the hide course I'll have internalized the method and I'll be able to go faster>>7974025Preach, brother
>>7974035He barely teaches a proper method, it is difficult to gain ground with it.
Any advice is appreciated. They say my stuff is high beg so I’m trying to get to intermediate in the next months/years.
>>7974035TALENTED RAT. SHUT UP.
I have no sleep schedule and I must draw.
>>7974038if you want to progress that fast you probably need to have a more concrete goaldo you have any artist that you have as a quality metric?
>>7974044Mmm maybe nino vechia from magic. But any advice is appreciated. Right now I have a lot of free time.
>>7974035try also drawing the neck and shoulder girdle along with the headsometimes those show problems with the structure of the head in space
>>7974038Something about the values or the composition is making this picture not have a natural flow for the eye. Contrast is a good tool to help this. You are using lots of different colors but the value is reducing the contrast I think.
>>7974048Im gonna reduce the background as I feel its giving too much noise. Honestly I’m doing as many original works as possible and I work every day. I have gotten great feedback on this one but its still rated beg. Can you give me any feedback on this one please.
>>7974046great, then you can use him as your guidepost to find what to focus onbased on what I found online from nino, you have two main areas to work on: composition and valuekeep this quality metric by your side as you work on something original, check that you're meeting it as you work on every piece
>>7974051Neither of the pieces you have shown are bad. Your shading and highlighting is really nice. Do you have experience painting miniatures? This second picture has a similar problem of the figures in the foreground blending into the background because of contrast and the blurring effects I think. Honestly I wouldn’t call you /beg/ but everyone here gets called /beg/ until they are /adv/ anyways.
>>7974052Thanks man!
>>7974038What is this scene supposed to illustrate?
>>7974051This painting looks like it's from a different time, card art from an old TCG.Constructive criticism:Your edges and values are not well defined, nor are there any strong light sources, so it's hard to tell where one object starts and ends at a glance since everything is stacked on-top of each other.I'd focus on studying composition, contrast and lighting mainly.The anatomy on the humanoid figures is also weak/low effort which adds to the beginess of it. You have a lot more room for error with the non-humans so they look good by comparison, but jarring together, if that makes sense.There are parts of the painting that in isolation are not bad, they've just been arranged and lighted poorly.
>>7974055Thanks man don’t worry. I take no offense being called beg or anything in between. I have studied art and turned every stone for a very long time so I have done lots of different things. Thanks for the good comments I really appreciate it. Yeah looking into it youre right. From what I have been hearing I need to focus more on values, composition and overall forms and shapes. I like these two pieces a lot but I appreciate brutal feedback and I’m trying to make as many complex pieces as I can.
>>7974059Thanks I will take it into consideration. It was one of my first “non study” originals I made this year. But I’m gonna focus on what you said.>>7974058Its just a futuristic, whimsical situation between explorers.
>>7974061No as in, what are you trying to illustrate with this scene? What is happening here? It's very hard to make sense of the image and so to help you I'm trying to figure out what your intention with this scene was. I imagine the robot is helping rescue the animal from the top of a tree, but what is the guy on the left and what is the thing under him?
>>7974062Its like a young explorer on a floating vehicle. The other stuff is like mushroomsAnd shit
Just some flats. I know the anatomy is a little off but I think it's kinda decent
>>7974063Something that helps make an illustration more interesting is a narrative. Within the picture it helps to have a small story occurring that a viewer can take interest in.
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>>7974071But that's... forbidden love...
>>7974051here's something quick you can try, separate the different parts using contrast.stuff will generally get lower contrast the further they are from the camera. it's not entirely realistic but you can observe it irl when looking at distant objects. basically darks will be higher value and strong light will be more mellow. on top of that you can make artistic decisions like having the monster in the foreground be in shadow to forcefully have less contrast than the middle ground to create a focal point there. basically you can push the whole peace into lower contrast by putting a tone curve or something on top and then carve out your focal points by masking them out. then you can endlessly repeat the process to create a visual hierarchy
>>7974083Thats really helpfulThanks!
>>7974063Just a quick touch up. Study thumbnailing, composition and warm/cool colors. I'd recommend Marco Bucci for all 3 of these. Your lighting and colors tend to stay too neutral/cold and your focal point isn't define so your eye doesn't really know what to make of this. Your actual rendering is pretty solid. I'd say it's your strongest fundamental present here. Your perspective is also off, but I'd recommend the above 3 before perspective if you want the fastest results
holy shit I finally made a drawing after like 15 years of wanting but never trying, family made fun of me, was awful, etc. it's just the first exercise in keys to drawing where you draw your feet, but it.. actually sort of resembles human contours and didn't come out like a chris-chan sketch. it's still legitimate pre-pre-beg garbage but damn it feels good. didn't know this could be that fun. i don't know why I was so worried all this time.
>>7974090Glad you shrugged it off boss. That's how winners are made
Hey guys, I'm looking for feedback. I put together this compilation of a few 'favorite' drawings I made so far this year. When I look at my own work, I often feel like its missing something. A special sauce of sorts. But I’ve never quite been able to figure out what it is.I don’t want to sound like I’m saying “oh, I just need one thing and all my problems are solved.” No, that would be naive and probably even a little arrogant. But what I am saying, is that I feel like when I’m making a drawing, I have the ‘IDEA’ of what I’m looking for, I know the art styles and the visual tropes I’m seeking to emulate… but when it comes down to it, I just don’t ‘get it.’ It’s sorta like… if you compare a human to a chimp. Humans and chimps share about 98 to 99% of their DNA. As such, chimps are decently intelligent, have opposable thumbs, a facial plan that isn’t too dissimilar in placement to a humans, and they even build small societies and go to war with one another. But that remaining 1-2% makes a HUGE difference. There is a lot you’d need to change about the chimp at a fundamental level to get it to be a full fledged human being. That’s how I feel about my art. I know it’s got the DNA of artists I admire and study somewhere in there, but at the end of the day, they’re on the moon and I’m flinging shit and screaming for a banana. I don't feel close to them at all. So what I’m getting at here is: what do YOU guys think are the main things wrong with my drawings. The main thing(s) that make me suck. I know it’s probably more complicated than a quick fix, but any feedback or guidance from someone more experienced to give me a little direction to get to that next step up the evolutionary ladder would be appreciated.
>>7974092Can't you see the mistakes/differences to your favorite artists, and if you can isn't it just a matter of picking some reference and iterating?
I hate not having ideas… I don’t end up drawing on days where I can’t think of anything interesting. I need to stop drinking and get more sleep.
>>7973861>are those shit?Nope it has it uses but using it everywhere makes the image pillowy and overall unconfident.Look up edges:https://youtu.be/nnhj5efzN_w?si=yAD-cuJiEahS3Tez
>>7974025I've seen you screaming for a year and a half, how can you not improve?
>>7974103BECAUSE I DONT HAVE TALENT.
eyes warm up>>7974038composition, I don't know what I'm looking at. Everything is so cramped together that it's hard to read. On top of that, the values are clamped very narrowly.>>7973633>>7973648You're watching content that's usually auto-translated, so of course you're going to lose context. Secondly, most artists don't know how to teach. They can explain, or at least try to, their process, but it's hard to describe things you're doing automatically. This is even more true when it comes to aesthetics. My advice would be to use media that's either in a language you're proficient in or has an official translation.
>>7974106You don't need that
>>7974041nonce
>>7974108He became a woman?
Talent is trained, it's not something you're born with. Perhaps you're confusing it with aptitude. But even lack of aptitude can be made up for with training of talent. It's about opportunity cost management. What is more important to you, spending every day drawing to get better, or slacking off and playing video games? This has been my daily rant. I'm not good at drawing either though
a thicc bunny girl sketch before I head to work>>7973762>>7973396nice
>>7974121Talent is your affinity to learn and absorb something and use it. It is definitely something you are gifted at birth with.Some will learn in days what others will never in entire lifetimes.
I love how this general still has early 2000s fedora-wearing atheist YouTuber debates about a non-falsifiable hypothesis like talent.
>>7974130why would you love that
>>7973945>i appreciate your compliments every time and also you should draw more buttholes your drawings of the ass are hotTHANK YOU!!! There you have an ass, I wanted to draw a butthole but I liked this idea and the angle of her ass didn't accommodated the butthole shot. Maybe next time!>>7973939>way hotter nowTHANKS!!!! I like your version of the ref better than the ref itself lol. I love the face you did. saved.>>7973997=D!! LOVELY MONKEES!!!>>7973953Nice retro style!!!>>7973958I'm saving this fig collage! You're creating beautiful body shapes>>7974006I absolutely loved the sketch you did for this one here >>7973260>>7974068HOT AS FUCK! SAVED! keep at it, more of this please>>7974092First of all, you obviously have TALENT, no doubt about it. And you're too eager to burn though your natural development stages. Just have fun buddy, you need to walk the walk. Through repetition you will begin to "see" what you like of your own stuff, and what you will be discarding along the way. At first glance, what I see is a rendering obsession over other elements of the work. I bet you end up totally exhausted after finishing one of those. Over-rendering time deprives you from the energy you need to draw MORE. This girls are really nice, my favorite is the string bikini one. I mean, I would like to see a whole series of pics with her, but that means you have to become super fast to do that. I believe that trying to become faster and faster will dictate "how good" can you really be, and how your "real" style will look like. Draw more, try to become faster... I think I'll draw that bikini girl...>>7973762Best in thread?! SAVED!
>>7974094Yeah probably, but I’m still curious to know what other people think I’m doing wrong. I tend to get in my own head so some outside voices are nice. I show my drawings to some friends and I get nice compliments from them, but I’d like to hear some frank feedback from people who don’t care if they hurt my feelings or not.
>>7974140>At first glance, what I see is a rendering obsession over other elements of the work. I bet you end up totally exhausted after finishing one of those. Wow, you nailed it 100%. I'll often work on one of these for several hours across several days, and by the time I finish one I often feel the need to take a day-off drawing where I do some light doodling at most.>Over-rendering time deprives you from the energy you need to draw MORE.Yeah, this makes a lot of sense to me. I need to draw more drawings, instead of getting tunnelvisioned on just one drawing. That's what I'm getting out of this. >This girls are really nice, my favorite is the string bikini one. I mean, I would like to see a whole series of pics with herWell, I do have good news for you there. That picture is fanart of Clone/Future Yukikaze from the Taimanin series. She was designed by Aoi Nagisa. --Thank you for the kind words and the feedback. It makes a lot of sense to me, now I just gotta apply it.
>>7973414another, the main cast will only need a couple more
>>7974142>TaimaninRed alert. We have a cuckold in the thread.
I never do fanart but Hunter x Hunter is back so
>>7974146Spidersissies on suicide watch
>>7974092Your art is gross and unappealing. The top left one is much better than the others, almost like it was drawn by somebody else. It looks like you're trying to emulate all of those retards that are obsessed with "thicc" women and inflated asses. You're drawing BIG TITS and BIG ASSES, and the only thing you care about is those two things. They're tasteless pinups that feel cheap and trashy. The girls aren't cute, their faces aren't endearing at all, there's no charm or personality. Top right is gross, the squinty eyes and tacked-on fat lips look like a gross caricature. Oversized bolt-on balloon tits, ridiculous blow-up abdominal muscles, it's disgusting.Like what's the purpose of drawing something like this? Is the drawing meant to be appealing? Cool and sexy? Humorous? I look at it and feel sad because you're wasting your time and skills drawing shit. There's obviously some bias here because (((anime website))), but Japanese artists have concepts such as charm points and "cute girls with heart-melting details" loosely that cover rough concepts on how to draw appealing characters. Maybe you should look into those sorts of things.Secondly, you're lacking in eroticism. First, look up John Singer-Sargent's "The Socialite" (I forget the exact name) and note how it captures a fleeting, intimate moment in time. A good pinup should tell a story or offer a glimpse into the personal. What is the person doing? Why are they posing like that? What are they doing? Why is she standng there with her sword, naked and looking angry? I like the "epicness" of it, like it could be a movie cover or smth, but that idea clashes with the gross hyper body.There's too much sharp detail. It's hard for me to critique your work because I find it so unappealing that I'd suggest scrapping it all and drawing something else entirely, but try to make your girls look softer and more delicate. All of the big hard lines and shadows make them look like solid objects.
>>7974166calm down pedophile
>>7974092draw more boxes and loomis heads
>>7974166its harsh, but hes right
>>7973534>>7973762nice talent>>7974006I saved your OC when you posted it here months ago because I wanted to draw fanart of it but I couldn't capture the likeness>>7974071based>>7974092rendering makes it look like they're made of rubber>>7974107>performative notes
I'm going to cut myself over being a talentless permabeg and I need everyone here to know
did pedro actually an heroed xherself
>>7974202I found a stray half dead kitten when I was about to and that stopped me
>>7974202as if lol
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>>7974130Talent is just the name for the fact that two people can put in the same amount of time and effort and one becomes a pro and the other stays permabeg the whole time.
>>7974214The curve should eventually even out after a certain point. But artists are disgusting retarded niggers , which means that every single piece of art is beautiful despite being absolute fucking garbage which creates an endless circle of not improving.Some don't even like the idea of drawing in 3D cause it requires some effort. Then you have autists who are faceblind so no matter how much they try they can't really see what's wrong with the way they draw.
https://files.catbox.moe/ck64ol.jpgCan someone make fun of my drawings so I can cry easier
>>7974219Ok I'm just going to go pay women to call me a loser agajn
Okay
waltuh
>>7974219i want to brutally rape you
>>7974219cool
>>7974219i wish i could come up with anime faces like you
Tutorials said to squint my eyes but when I squint I see nothing
draw a frog girl, name undetermined
>>7974282asian genes?
>>7974282Genuine 60 IQ post. Incredible.
how do you draw a very close perspective view like finger pointing towards the viewer
>>7974035Draw bigger. Like 2-3 bigger at least. Instead of twiddling around with little details it’ll help you think in terms of form and shape
>>7973305I did the dude it was boring as fuck when can I start drawing anime babes with big boobs
some practice
>>7974323here using an old render i made as reference.
>>7974312ngmi attitude, it's over.
>>7974244wrong saturation but I think it came out pretty well
THEM RATS
The Cum.
How the fuck do I draw dicks? It all looks like symbol drawing no matter what I do
mmtired
Trying random shit
>>7974357pretty good effortI think you could push your darks further and increase the 3d effect, pay attention to ambient occlusion for lighting situations like these where the subject is mostly in shadow
>>7974385I have a serious problem with jaws
>>7974389I think you're anime-fying him, enlarging the forehad and moving the features down the face
>>7974393Is he less of a toon now?
>>7974386Thanks anon, I actually did get scared going too dark because the shadows felt too far from my base color. I'll trust the process and see where pushing through gets me next time
>>7974367Look at your own dick>b-but i don't have onePost pussy for ref ;)
>>7974400It's so obvious that you are a woman
>>7974400Head and face is way too round, but not sure if that's your OC and you're only taking the pose
>>7974407What purpose does this comment serve in this thread
>>7974407E>>7974412No I just struggle and always make heads too round / fat I've like paranoia of making them look uncanny by making lines too straight and suchI'm not going to retouch it more but I'll try to keep it in mind>>7974418This honestly works for 90% of posts in this board
I think I might try to grind drawing portraits & anime heads to cure that I need to get my brain to figure it outNo more drawing today though. Need to feed the kitty then go gym.
>>7974420welcome back queen
>>7974166Thanks, it felt good hearing constructive criticism. I've been taking bullet points of this and every reply I get in my notes. >It looks like you're trying to emulate all of those retards that are obsessed with "thicc" women (...) Like what's the purpose of drawing something like this? This is true, yeah. I'll admit I've always liked oversized BBW milf art with oversized asses and what not, so in that sense my tastes might be perma bricked. However, I can't discount what you're saying either, what you're saying makes a lot of sense. What I'm getting out of this, at least in part, is I'm getting too lost in the "big boobs and ass" side of the erotic drawing, almost like a crutch. I'm ignoring other ways to make my art and characters appealing, resulting in work that feels empty.Like I said, I'm taking notes of everything here, so I want to thank you (and everyone else who replied) for taking the time. I'll get to work now.
what is art
>>7974445My balls on your chin.
>>7974447then we must destroy art
>>7974445my attempts to draw women i yearn for
>>7974445big titty anime girls
>>7974166Only good critique in this thread.
>>7974400Last portrait I did from the start of the year pre breakU can see the thing I mean of the straight lines on it.Posting for gains comparison thing like gymbro..>>7974426Hi>>7974445Women naked
Anyone got some cute references? I'm stuck on what pose I want to draw next
>>7974438I was worried that I was being too harsh, still want to apologise for it. Good on you for taking it well though. I was brutally honest lol.I actually ran out of space, forgot to say that I really like the top left one, the ring of fire looks awesome, the proportions are much better, and the roundedness of the hips is the best thing in the whole collage. Did you stray from your usual stuff when you made it?>What I'm getting out of this, at least in part, is I'm getting too lost in the "big boobs and ass" side of the erotic drawing, almost like a crutch. I'm ignoring other ways to make my art and characters appealing, resulting in work that feels empty.More or less. Maybe study some erotica pieces that you like, or make a thread here and ask people to post stuff that they find appealing and take notes. Could be a good topic.
>>7974325i finished one figure
>>7974142>That picture is fanart of Clone/Future Yukikaze from the Taimanin seriesWell, see? I know the Taimanin series, but I like YOUR version of Yukikaze, it is unique. You created something different and truly yours from it. I did a quick Future Yuki in distress for you... hee hee... Why life can't just give her a break? Didn't she suffer enough already? ´-__-`...>>7974143Beautiful designs! Adorable faces!>>7974150This is fucking insane, saving all of your shit!>>7974166This sounds more like a rant about what (You) like/don't like in general.>>7974244Brilliant work!>>7974264Such pleasing design and stylization!!!>>7974283A frog girl eh... I always had a recurrent idea with that theme, but I can't post it here, vivisection on frogs was allowed in schools but it ain't allowed as a virtual drawing on the internet... crazy world>>7974323Amazing work!>>7974400I LIKE THIS ONE!!!>>7974470Fantastical piece! She has a more expressive facial gesture in your painting than in the original ref!
I can't draw and my penis is small
>>7974485If you didn't post your drawing everyone would have assumed you're Paige.
>>7974490We wouldn't want to confuse a fatherless coomer with another fatherless coomer.
design for the background male student uniformI actually like this design of his head, might turn it into part of the main cast>>7974483thanks!
>>7974483i made her cause i wanted to draw redneck monster girls im working on croc milf now
>>7974483I used to not like you peril. I'll keep it real. But you've grown on me. Like a little tumor. Ty.-Sigend - tranny
>>79744959-5 business woman is transported to another world?
wips
>>7974505
>>7974474
>>7974510asirpa
>>7974499good title, would read and then watch the low-budget anime adaptationbut this one will be called 'the wizard's insurance'
>>7974513asirpa?
>>7974505Nice, reminds me of some paintings by Stanley Donwood
>>7974505sovl
seriously how do you do the close shot perspective of a person's finger being close to the viewer?
>>7974528Copy the masters.
daily drawing 2>>7974485last panel arm too short>>7974470missed the most interesting thing about the ref>>7974445you wouldnt understand it even if i told you
>>7974528If you can't figure it out then find a reference
Another blame study
>>7974535nice
>>7974532why are these fags playing on leverless
>>7974529>>7974533i mean thanks but anything more technical? or a link to something?
>>7974540Answered your own question
>>7974481thats it for today
>>7974591ayy sexo haha
I’m gonna draw some fat bitches
>>7974602don't
More faces from my Chuma Hill study
I heard of someone here named “hatkidfag” and saw some of their art. Is it possible to commission them here?
>>7974602 need a bigger sketchbook if you gonna draw your mom
>>7974150teacher-anon????
>>7974606Yes, but he can only draw 3 lines per day so you might need to wait half a year for your comm.
>>7974606You can't afford it. He only do big jobs. Think Elon Musk, Bill Gates, Clinton.
Getting back into it after a break with a cube gridAlso I've reached my goal of drawing every day for a full year
>>7974625Got anything to compare the before and after? A year long daily streak sounds pretty impressive
>>7974504
>>7974478>still want to apologise for itNo worries at all, I literally asked for it so it's all good on my end. I know I need to improve so I'd be more disappointed if I didn't receive any criticism at all. >Did you stray from your usual stuff when you made it?Yes, long story short I was basically trying to emulate official Taimanin artworks for this one and make something that would visually fit in with that universe. So, that's why it's a little different. >Maybe study some erotica pieces that you like,Good idea, making a moodboard might help too. >>7974483That's sexy, I like that. Thank you for drawing it - I'm happy I could spread the gospel of Clone Yuki.
>>7974628Sure, top and left are from the start of the sketchbook I started in early July and right is from about 2 weeks ago, before my break. I did the drawing on the right side of the brain workbook before that but it's packed away somewhere
>>7973789>>7973858Sorry, ain't got one.>>7973799>>7974140Thanksies, *smooch smooch*.>>7973987*Mwah*
>>7974648why are you talking like this
>>7974650Be transphobic somewhere else please.
>>7973916rabu you onyon...
>>7974646Most notably, your taste improved significantly.
spaceship. put in a little more effort with the paintjob this time.
>>7974648TALENTED DISGRACE
>>7974668but i didnt say anything
>>7974681>>7974650Any talented fag posting here must be protected and encouraged at all costs
>>7974677I like it, but the weathering texture is competing with your actual shadows in terms of value. You should try increasing the contrast to see what you end up with.
Should I learn something different every day? how tf show I study?
gave up on the bottom right
>>7974686No, them rats, they're enemies
>>7974698Do you respect anything at all, is there anything to be salvaged at all?
>>7974710Don't blow a gasket champ
>>7974535wow
>>7974710YOU'RE MEDIOCRE
Hello, /begs/ and /ints/. I'm proud to present the almighty, the astonishing, one of the greatest accomplishments of perspective study: the spiral stairs. Truly majestic.
>>7974710Bankai: Post Your Work
Drawing posters.. save /beg/ society..
>>7973762Hands too small, ear too low. Lighting makes no sense.
How does this look? I feel like there’s issues with the head but I can’t figure it out
Help
>>7974762Face is too small
>>7974648The neck is off center and I feel as if you can refine your sketches more by using a harder edged brush and being more deliberate with your shadow placement to showcase the light direction and forms more.
>>7974762Boobs too big
>>7974769interesting. I like it
I'm new to nsfw, lemme know if it's any good.
>>7974724I love Spiral stairs! My favorite!>>7974737I'll do my best!!! ToT!!!>>7974757Lovely face!!!>>7974761Scary dude!!!! I'll call him... Crabbinator!>>7974762Such beautiful face! How does she avoids the side effects of Growth hormone? He head/face muscle structure should look like the Predator's! Very beautiful!>>7974769This is amazing>>7974677COOOL!!! A like the yellow bits a lot, the grey though doesn't help with the foreshortening, it looks too uniform as a whole..>>7974625NICE BOXES!!! SAVED!>>7974604I'm so saving this beautiful drawing... You're so blessed to be able to draw like this in a real sketchbook!>>7974538EXCELLENT AND BEAUTIFUL LETTERING/CALLIGRAPHY!!! His ear is a little small!
is it more prudent to draw the same thing 100 times or 100 different things?
>>7974800i would say its better to draw the same thing a hundred times, given it is from different angles
How does one perform grid drawing w/o using a tablet? I prefer to do everything on paper.
Insane lad pt. 2
>>7974808Ruler
>>7974779It's like that scene from Ace Ventura
>>7974822That beard texture is immaculate
>>7974495trying out different angles and expressions for the agent
>>7974830...Which one?
>>7974838https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4j8m8L8B7pM
Found some really fun references on Pinterest, hopefully I’ll have time to finish this and the previous one over the weekend
>>7974495>>7974834TALENTED RAT.
>>7974832Thanks, beards are surprisingly a lot of fun to render . The hair? Not so much lol>>7974834Very nice. Oc?>>7974841You’ve got the larger shapes down but looking at that hand i really think you should work on simplification. Draw some stick figures, mannequins, etc. and THEN build atop with what you’ve drawn. Give it a shot.
>>7974853>Very nice. Oc?thanks, yeah it's for a silly comic idea I got the other dayI've never done comics before, but it seems fun
>>7974859Ah okay I haven’t either, but I plan to make one. Are you posting in the comic thread?
>>7974692
My hand shakes too much to do crisp clean line art what do
>>7974692>>7974870depends on your current level and your goalsanalyze your current works to see what needs the most work and work on that>>7974876line stabilization or use vectors
I know its very rough, but I need some help with perspective, namely I want to make it appear as if the hands are very close to the "camera". I can't really find quite what I'm looking for online (in terms of references).Also (unrelated), how do I draw from imagination? I can't do it. I've seen permabegs with better sovl than anything I can come up with. One of the things that first drew me to art was "outsider art", and I want my stuff to have even a quarter of the schizo creativity that has.
>>7974724Looks amazing, nice job.
It’s so over for me
Can someone please tell me if the logic of the left arm makes sense here? And if it doesnt, how should I do it?
Just doomed. Everything I make is shit
>>7974915let's go
>>7974876caffeine
>>7973446Is anything noticeably wrong?
>>7974884i'm a retard without the ability to picture things in my head. if i can't find a good reference i'll pull up blender with a model. on that same note i just describe what i want to draw and imagine each stroke is a command. your pic doesn't look too bad. really youll end up exaggerating if you want a better effect (bigger foreground hand, taper the rest). might also have to learn multipoint perspective (3) if you haven't
>>7974928>i'm a retard without the ability to picture things in my headnobody has that ability
>>7974937sorry bro you've got aphantasia
>>7974938if this were true the ability to draw would be dime a dozen, not something only a select few can do after dedicating years to it, if you think "imagination" exists you're a brainlet, all thats in your head and everyone else's is a loose conundrum of associations
>>7974939lmao
>>7974939it's like a day dreaming state, most can't keep it in their head and project it onto the page to trace or anything. so it doesn't make you good at drawing. but most people can visualize.
>>7974150cleaned this up a bit, next gonna do color>>7974483Thanks good to see your consistent as always>>7974609i'm guessing you want advice? Grind boxes and overlapping/interlocking shapes.
>>7974941Correction - no one can do that Even on hallucinogenic drugs you don't actually see things that aren't thereI don't know why I'm explaining this to you, legitimate waste of both of our times
>>7974946yeah this is a waste of time. it's an IQ/autism check. some people can't comprehend the others peoples minds can work differently than theirs.
>>7974946>>7974948no
>>7974926Please help
>>7974943cuuuute :3
What do you do to keep yourself doing it, day in and day out, despite everything you draw coming out wrong and realising that you have at least a few years ahead of you until you start even getting close to your standards? What keeps you going, what makes you so sure you will improve and enjoy what you do eventually?
Line on tabletMusic in headsetTits on canvasHell yeah
>>7974798what's with the exclamations
>>7974997
>>7974997You have to get to the point where it’s just a quiet inevitability. Practicing is like going to work or paying your taxes. You have to do it whether you want to or not, whether you feel like it or not. Even if you WANT to quit, the option simply does not exist.
"Just draw" for "fun"
>>7975035these are sloppy. draw another 1000.
>>7975035Do you draw anything else other than this shit?
>>7975037no thats his schtick, he literally only draws this and will never draw anything else
>>7974591trying some more
I fear developing a style cause i hate stagnation.
>>7975035>Just drawnot like that
How does the shading look? I’ve not touched the airbrush or blender this time around, I feel like my colours aren’t interesting enough but I’m not really knowledgeable enough about colour theory in this way.
>>7975060that looks pretty good to me, it just needs to be more finished like making the lines more defined like in the armpits, other than that it looks good.
>>7975037I try, but without talent, it's impossible.>>7975047Then how?
>>7975060looks good, but it will probably make a weird contrast with the face's proportionskeep going
>>7975060Better although I think some of the shadow shapes especially around the belly are poorly defined. When you design the shadow shapes initially I would suggest starting with just 2 values, one for shadow and one for deep shadow. you can smoothen the transitions selectively later (in moderation) to convey more subtle turning of form.You should be really thinking hard about the shadow shapes, what form am I trying to convey with this shadow?
>>7975064>Then howWhy did you start drawing in the first place? I'm sure it wasn't because you wanted to fill hundreds of pages with cylinders in boxes.Do you want to draw realism? start studying portraits.Do you want to draw stylized? Start copying from artists whose style you really like. Yes you will suck at first but by copying/studying from life you have some objective correctness to compare against and correct. Yes you need an understanding of form and perspective and light and shadow, but you can tackle those things when they become a problem.The only thing drawing more cylinders in boxes will do is make you better at drawing cylinders in boxes.Have some bravery and actually start studying the thing you want to draw instead of staying in you cylinder hugbox.
>>7975064>>7975071This,You dont need talent and besides talent is just learned skill at a young age. Talented people are just those who either grew up surrounded by art and the resources to learn or people who've spent a lot of time later in life, you only see the final result and not the progress. Just draw doesn't mean just practice it means just draw what you like, get back into scribbling and doodling, children are able to improve because theyre passionate.
>>7975071>Yes you will suckThat's it. Period.
Iwnbaw + Iwnbaa
Stop giving attention to the schizo.
>>7974974Ambiguous anatomy around the pelvis, not following the centerline of the body, more forms are necessary, and some details (like the arms) are a bit unclear as to what they are. >>7975011They always type like that, get with the program
We need more mass repliers.
>>7974879I know little to nothing
>>7975081nice monke
>>7975081No…
>>7975040more
>>7975083who?
>>7975081THIS is art
>>7975083Well I sure wish I read this sooner I think my biggest weakness is that I like to figure things out as I draw instead of coming up with a plan beforehand
>>7975103I think you have the opposite problem to most people. You add too much contrast. The extreme contrast means that, yes the forms are defined, but you lose a lot of the subtlety in turning forms and differentiation between depth of shadow.
>>7975131I'm kind of upset at how bad this is
I CANT DRAW. GOD MADE ME PERMABEG.
Unsure on how to proceed, drawing is taking too much time, tons of mistakes and i don't want to fix them, still can't draw hands. Chat i think i'm losing it.
>>7975154you might be spending more time ctrl'zing and erasing than drawingthe cure is to draw with pen and paper for a while
More skull study. After finishing the hide skull lessons, I felt I needed a different resource to better understand the skull, so I'm complementing with "Anatomy for Sculptors." I will be reviewing other angles as well, isolating the meaningful parts to understand their rotation in 3D space. After reviewing the skull in the void, I will try getting some heads in the wild (both anime and real) and draw the skull over it.
>>7975139well thats gonna be quite a problem to fix
I'm try 1 brush onlyEverything brown, have problem. line actuay not brown. just red. trasnparent red. look better, but make more contrast for try be darker, it turn pure red, no fit. make black . it break the tint of drqwing. I will have to figure this concundrum.>>7975167I'm going draw that ref n ow
Nevermind that ref boring.,
>>7975171thread challenge? the ref is fun enough i think
>>7975175Fine wokey. But I am SYMBOL DRAWING IT.
GIVE ME MY FUCKING (YOU)S YOU FAGS
>>7973339Cute
7975185lol
>>7975165Erasers don't exist? This guy just ctrl z like 20 times in real life.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOXtpa5xp7I
>>7975171I don't understand why, but everything you make is ugly. I've never seen you draw anything interesting or appealing.
Silksonging
Ma head hurf I cannae draw no mo>>7975214Well you see that's actually because you're a Racism outside of /b/.
>>7975219You're just lacking something fundamental. I can't piece it together. This is a bit better, but even then you've somehow managed to make a pretty reference unappealing. It's like you can't tell what makes something appealing at all. People below your skill level manage appeal regularly, but you don't.
>>7975223>You're just lacking something fundamental.You can't teach taste. Most western artists drawings are borderline grotesque
>>7975225There are western artists here who manage better. I think this anon struggles severely with visualization. They need to consciously consume more art or get better at observation. It's always an eyesore.
weird how whenever pedro shows up, my stuff gets banned and deletedalmost like (((someone))) is abusing his janny powers...
>>7975226Not really. If it's not done by a westernised chinese or asian then the drawing is probably ugly or deviantart/reddit.
>>7974945I'm just surprised because I don't think you've ever shared anything this explicit before. Still looks fun though.
>>7975234whatever you say clown, i just changed your waifu haircut and eyes color, she is now a completely new character.
>>7975238Can you even draw a waifu? Even a simple one like pic related? I haven't seen a single eye-pleasing drawing posted in this entire board. Shit videos, Shit materials, Shit references, Shit everything, it can't be helped.
akschually scratch that i haven't seen a single eye pleasing drawing that's done by a westerner that's not asian. Proko artists, brunette, etc, even the """""""""""""pros"""""""""""" lack the eye for beauty , extremely closed minded too.
>>7975242....can you?
>>7975242Then why are you still here you worthless waste of air? Neck yourself already and be done with your pitiful attempts to shit up this half dead board since you won't amount to anything one way or another anyway
>>7975234I disagree. I think western art can be appealing, I just think that this person has no idea what makes appeal and has extremely weak fundamentals. I do agree that it's easier to start making appealing art if you go for an eastern style, though.
>>7975249At least i'm trying. 0 western influence0 western advice0 westerner videos0 westerner referencesAll chinese or korean or old japanese. You guys have no idea how the death of the western industry affected everything, japan is fucking garbage these days (probably related to a mass influx of AI and Indians)>>7975253>western art can be appealingPost 1.
>>7975255Lmao he is gonna act like frazeta and david finch are shit, BAHAHAHAHAHA.
>>7974897the real unappealGOD
>>7975223Lack of sharpness and fat lines makes everything look gross.
>>7975264It's also flat with zero perspective, no concept of where features are meant to go relative to the form, which is crazy considering that anon has posted countless studies of those things.
>>7975255I like de cape et de crocs
whats the most efficient way to learn art ?
>>7975277draw hundreds of cylinders in boxes
>>7975277Drawing what you want to draw and choosing what study to improve your art, and cognitive drawing/drawing from memory to make what you study stick in your brain
>>7975282You mean thousands, right?
>>7975225I think taste can be taught and developed even into adulthood, but if you grew up heavily consooming fandom garbage from the depths of DA, Tumblr, and Newgrounds you have a significant uphill battle.
>>7975242>I haven't seen a single eye-pleasing drawing posted in this entire board.Anon I think you're on the wrong website, you need to go to bluesky or ATF for that kind of content.
>>7975297*hundreds of thousands, my bad
I need to figure out a way to bring my delayed gratification circuit back online. Or find some quick and easy way to get at least some boost in short-term results so I can build a habit that would allow me to start grinding fundies. Right now I just get no rewards out of being shit at drawing at all, and any prospect of improvement is far too distant.
design for the generic female student outfit>>7974864nice, I'll post there once I have some panels drawndon't want to spam them with unused concepts
Don’t think her eyes are level..
another attempt at a studyI think my brain and eyes are going to combust lol
im gonna draw something shit on purpose
>>7975361You mean it's usually unintentional, paige?
>>7975362whos paige
>>7974884You put in a really good effort. This isn't easy, and I like your drawing—it reads well. Just make sure to follow the rules of applied perspective.https://www.animationmeat.com/pdf/misc/waltstanchfield/43ws_perspective_rules.pdfdraw iteratively, take notes, then apply them to a copy of your drawing. the faster you become comfortable with erasing and reworking parts of your sketch, the faster you'll gain control over your drawing.use your phones camera and take photos at different zoom levelshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6ChcbbMJaI>how do I draw from imagination?I think doodling helps me. It's like writing, it's easier to write about a single rock in my garden than the entire garden itself. The fewer things you have to worry about, the better.It's the same with having something on the canvas. It's like seeing shapes in the clouds. I think I know what a tractor looks like in real life, but I don't know how to draw one. However, when I see something that vaguely looks like a tractor, I can start connecting the dots and slowly build it from there.>>7975171Cool work! To get more contrast while keeping everything looking harmonious, the easiest solution I can think of is setting your brush to Darken or Gamma Dark so overlapping strokes change the saturation and value more naturally.The second option, a bit more cumbersome, is to shift the hue toward darker triadic colors moving reds toward purple or blues.If you only use transparency with the normal blending mode, I think your colors will end up feeling a bit flat.
Jax is laughing at nothing in particular>>7975381Ty! I've been messing around with this stuff and it's really odd to me since I never switched from the usual black n white stuff usually. I'll try out what you mentioned
Seriously I need my (You)s back
>>7975387you have the ugliest lines I've ever seen
>>7975387werent you saying last thread youre killing yourself?
>>7975409he's an attention whore, stop giving him attention
>>7975413>him
I'm studying, and I'm improving. Feels good.
>>7975333when you find it, tell us about the process you find
>>7975426Looks like fun!
>>7975361omfg hahahahahaha mission accomplishedcan a nigga get a pity "soul"?
>>7975426...
>>7975437We're so soulful!!!
>>7975424I would much appreciate some assistance, I've been looking for years and the search has proven to be fruitless so far.
>>7974724Ok this is an excellent study, but I think the steps above the eyeline are leaning towards the viewing and showing the topside rather than the bottom.
>>7975417he's a man lol
>>7975449this has zero resemblance to the character
yup yup this looks horrible
>>7975462>he
0 drawings posted0 minutes spent drawing7 malding posts at the tranny
>>7975485based
>>7975355looks fine to me based on the angle of the head.
still trying to make shading look good
>>7975494More value contrast and more midtones and highlights
>>7975477It’s actually not bad. You could pass it off as heavily stylized. Just gotta start thinking in 3D forms and understanding the perspective of each volume you’re drawing and you’ll really be going places (try drawing the ribcage/torso viewed from below from a few different angles and make sure you can fully show the 3D form)
Graterbros..
>>7975505shut up nigga>>7975507its gonna be 2 weeks of humiliaton but im gonna figure it out dattebayo
can't drawovercan't focus
I NEED TALENT.
I feel like one of the monkeys banging on a typewriter but instead of Shakespeare I just keeping banging out Brian Sanderson novels
>>797548530 minutes of drawing
>>7975035You should start turning them into cans and bottles at least
>>7975511I liked the drawing and I gave the best advice I could, what did I do wrong?
>>7975526Damn the dinosaur skulls are fire
back at this one againI made some changes after receiving feedback in the last threadI still need to shade the character
>>7975526rat, horse, warthog, ET?
>>7975477i like it
Can't a guy have a little fun? I mean I know I'm too low IQ to make it, I should probably just give up. I hate drawing after all>>7975518Idk, I think you need darker darks more than more highlights. A nice trick is to use the complementary color (low opacity) for shading. Gives more natural greys compared to just lowering the value on the same color>>7975477relax, you're doing fine>>7975229Jannies are trannies and mods are frauds, it is known. Now chin up bathboy>>7974648What's your home address? To send commission check :)>>7974283No lower legs?>>7975248>>7975300Generic unsolicited advice to expand your taste:Go to a fucking museum. Take pictures of art that catches your eye. Trust your gut and keep an open mind. Later, review the pics and think about what you liked about the worksOr just search up paintings titled "odalisque" or "bathers" which you can't deny have influenced eastern artistsOh yeah, and if DO you reply to this post, your mother will be raped tonight by a pack of [REDACTED]
>>7975530>backgroundNice step forward.
anyway, see ya l8r!
>>7975530SEXO
1 hr study, no construction, no color picking.happy with it but feels like junk food.
Trying to do a side profile is hard.Ref: https://files.catbox.moe/pr3wz8.jpg
>>7975527im not looking for advice on the drawing itself but rather colors and shading. the drawing is just some bullshit i speedrun do get to the part i care about right now, i could make the forms look better if i wanted to>>7975534>>7975540no hugboxing
>>7975458Yeah, I noticed as well, but I think this ambiguity is part of the perspective. We can force ourselves to see both ways. Perhaps it is because of the ellipses/circular shape? We can see the same inversion with ellipses as well.
>>7975530really nice work anon
>>7975554Nice Ref.
>>7975530I think its done>>7975543>>7975548>>7975578thanks lads
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>>7975598You never did my request fucker
>>7975600Why do you allways scream when that guy and the futafag post.
>>7975131Crit please I'm bashing my head against a wall
>>7975625Just go with another drawing at this point.
>>7975625What are you even drawing, what's with those barbed wire pngs, what is that creature? How do you expect anyone to crit this
a little bit of bath drawing
>>7975644tried doing up the outline but I think it just looks messy
>>7973447>>7975641It's a card for a card game. And just because you can't it doesn't mean someone else can't either
>>7975648are you autistic? genuine question
>>7975648you've got a bad issue of stylistic mismatch (digital ink-heavy drawing, with early internet graphics golden plating, with the black stroked 2010-something text, with the cyan stroke on the pinterest pngs wires) nothing really goes togetherunironically COMPLETELY UNIRONICALLY take the png of the girl and ask chatgpt to generate a card around it, you dont have to reference it but you will see what the eye expects to see when it sees the illustration>>7975649what, jealous?
>>7975349learned about using frames in csp, then did the very rough sketch of the first 3 pagesprobably unintelligible right now, but it's a lot of fun
>>7975654>jealousmfw
i figured it outdidnt take 2 weeksso far the only arc that ended with complete failure was the background arc, maybe i have to try again but it gives me shivers>>7975657perfectly fine tits whats your problem
>>7975658it looks like a silly face
>>7975657Invader Zim
>>7975654Fair enough, but don't insult the wires, I made them myself
>>7975661yeah its caused Pareidolia and every body is gonna look like a silly face if you squint hard enough>>7975666thats not an insult pinterest is for real niggas its just that they dont fit
>>7975526Beau travail
>>7975669Alright thank you, I'll work on the layout then
retouched mainly the highlights
Done with the male slave
>>7975681
Been blanking for a while so I made myself make a list of ideas until I could imagine a picture>>7975712Nice sakura!
>>7974884Gave up, no idea how to draw the nails in any pleasing way. The hands are fucked up too. Also freehanding perspective when you've never touched it before is ill advised.>>7975381I love you.>>7975323>used as a reaction imageI've finally made it
>>7975355What was your blog again? I remember redlining you a few times.
>>7975712looks like a refined version of the frieren kino, difficult angle.
>>7975355I wish I had talent instead of being permabeg trash.
>>7975712you should use a light color for the lines in the hair highlights.
"Just draw"
"Just draw" x2
Old man doodle
>>7975827Do you know that you’re mentally ill and should seek professional help? Probably undiagnosed autism/adhd
>>7975865Crab
>>7975865>autism/adhdMaybe
Current progress, really struggling with the translucent sleeves and I fear it’s starting to look quite bad
What's a good way to make drawing as easy as possible? Not for the process itself, I know there are no real shortcuts there, but for actually sitting down to draw and getting back to it every day.
>>7975953make it fun so that you find it intrinsically motivating,
>>7975958That would require being good enough for it to be fun intrinsically, but I am a permaprebeg.
>>7975931materials react and work relative to their environmentyou're making the mistake of not starting with the background
"Just draw" x4
>>7975962yeah most artists go through that phase when they are a kid so they are not as self-aware of how bad their drawings are. either push through it and grind out the fundies or learn to treat yourself more kindly so you can reach your goals without torturing yourself.
>>7975953The way I've gotten back into it is to make it a social thing from time to time, and separating critique from creationAt least once a week I draw on magma with my friend, when I'm doing that I don't force myself to take it too seriously & I feel a greater desire to experimentAs I'm drawing I'm not looking for flaws. I think of everything I want to draw, add onto it as I go, not really thinking about how it looks, then once I get a little doodle done, I take a step back to critique myself/ask for advice before continuing. In between each step of your process you can allow yourself to look for what you don't like but if you do it while you're drawing all you're doing is making it painful and boring for yourself making you less likely to draw as often
we are my (You)s.. last warning
what if I don't have any friends
>>7975993make friends there are many servers/communities for it and almost all of them are sped and want friends too
>>7975712Why did you smear poop on her Jay Leno chin?
Just 3 more months and I'll be good enough to join communities and make friends
>>7976044Or start joining now and show people your progress. Growth happens quicker when you aren't alone
>>7975859sex
>>7975724Wow, great job! I’d suggest keeping at it. The setting is nice, and the composition works well too. You could learn and improve a lot by taking this piece all the way to completion.Put it aside for a while, then come back to it with fresh eyes. Make a plan for the areas you already know feel off, and start gathering references from multiple sources. If something feels too difficult, either ask for help or, even better, find a creative workaround.Great work takes time, especially when you’re still learning. Keep going!>>7975859awesome job, love the jacket texture
>>7976044This is your community and we are your friends.>>7976050Yeah but it’s understandable that you’d want to meet the minimum skill bar of the community you’re trying to participate in. You don’t want to show your /beg/ doodles to a bunch of pros for example.Fortunately the bar for participating in the /beg/ thread is underground so everyone can start posting their work here right away, you have no excuse.
>>7976075>you have no excuseI can think of a dozen off the top of my head. Don't try me.
>>7976044Cheering you on, but how do you know what your art trajectory is?
>>7976075My thought is join communities for beginners because there are very neatly divided communities based on skill level if you look for them because every other beginner who wants art friends has the same concerns. I think people forget there are hundreds of other people who have the same skill level as them and want friends who also are their skill level and like to draw. I think the mindset you have to have for it is being free of judgement. When I was looking for friends to draw with, I had to accept I'd maybe only be able to draw with people who liked subject matter I personally didn't care for (I had a lot of brony & furry friends at the start) insecurity will cause them to keep pushing the deadline of when they are allowed to socialize because it'll never be good enough. I still hate my art, but I knew I'd be happier if I at least put it out there and gave it a CHANCE. If I waited until I was happy with my art I never would've met other artists/fans of the same stuff as me>>7976056true>>7976067Thanks I'm trying to put all the tools in the program I use (magma) to use. They updated the lasso fill tool to have patterns so I decided this would be the doodle to mess with it
Thoughts on my first attempt at DORSB
I have nothing I want to say to anyone and I don't really care about what other people draw, so I guess I'll walk this lonely road like a chad sigma male lone wolf maverick eccentric outsider forever.
>>7975859Would vote for this man.
>>7976083just a guess based on my progress from the last few months
>>7976104See you, space cowboy . . . . . . .
>>7976102neat, how did you shade it?
>>7976128Looks like he used graphite.
"Just draw" x5
>>7976175based grinder
>>7976175>that incomplete cylinder at the bottomFucking retard. Do another rep of these.
>>7976075On that topic, here's some unfinished beg slop.
another day spent on vidya and cooming, surely tomorrow will be different
>>7976182>surely tomorrow will be differentI've been telling myself this for literal years. Nothing changed.
>>7975877Not maybe. Definitely.
>>7976175Are you using a ref for these or are you just winging it? I want to get better at forms so I thought I'd ask.
>>7976208Please don't draw thousands of boxes. In the history of art no one has ever gotten good by drawing nothing but boxes.
>>7976208I don't use ref.
>>7976211>nothing but boxesYeah of course this won’t help you improve. But you should still draw lots of forms and boxes in general, but obviously it shouldn’t be the ONLY thing you draw
>>7976213What if I only have time to draw either boxes or whatever I want, not both?
>>7976213>it shouldn’t be the ONLY thing you drawIf only I could draw something else...
>>7976211but how do i know when im worthy of drawing something other than boxes
>>7976212Have you tried stacking the boxes or drawing them all in the same perspective? It'd look pretty cool.
>>7975457same thing here, sometimes i came here to get some advice, rarely get some
Maybe I am doomed to be a perma/beg/
bad drawings attempt
I keep try and try and trying to get a good figure going, but I can never figure it out.
>>7975333The best thing I can offer is the shrimp method that I posted in the last thread. While people think it's a le quirky tutorial, it shows how fast you can see your improvement. Learning to draw is just about acquiring information and training muscle memory. The hand-to-eye coordination allows you to also connect with whatever you want to draw from your mind as well. It is *important* to make sure you're trying to acquire information while also keeping track of your progress. Just because you get frustrated, it doesn't mean that you're not improving. Think of your brain like a muscle; it will burn when you're working it but that's also a sign of you going in the right direction.>>7976235I try to provide advice but often times I'm told it's not presented in a way that gives them the golden>Git Gud in 3 Months Or Lessway. sometimes the answer is literally brute force + time.
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>>7976253yeah me too
>>7976246The comedy relief is here.
>>7976246You were given MULTIPLE advice and redraws from some of the literal best artists on this board.>>7955604 >>7955606 >>7957328 >>7957603 >>7957610 >>7957606 >>7957627 >>7957648 >>7957653There are people in these threads who haven't received an ounce of attention and critique to their works as you have, and you haven't followed in a single word of advice already given to you.
>>7976268>wasted a redlinetard's entire eveningok hatkidfag is actually kinda based...
>>7976271Fuck off already you clown.
>>7976239I don't think so.
>>7976268Anon, you do realize that just because someone tells me how to do something doesn't mean I'll internalize it instantly or be able to figure it out immediately, right?
>>7976273>>7976279Then I'm not sure what you want. People can't literally hold your hand for you and make you practice. You haven't read or followed any of the advice given.
>>7976282I have read it, I just still don't know what the fuck to do. I can't do any of the shapes because I'm not good enough at shapes, I can't do any of the lines because I'm not good enough at lines, I can't do any of the perspective because I'm not good enough at perspective. I don't know what you want me to take away from these posts.
And no, I can't just "grind" because I don't get any dopamine from it. My brain makes it impossible for me to just sit down and study. My brain hates it, and it fundamentally will not make that happen.
>>7976268Really appreciate that step by step bratkid lol, the box used for the head on one of those got me into actually drawing heads without much procrastination since I doodled a lot of boxes for fun in perspective.
>>7976282>Then I'm not sure what you want.I want a step by step process showing me what to do.
>>7976290You've literally received just that, multiple times.
>>7976290I'm sure that whore casy would be glad to show you again!
>>7976291And I still can't figure it out and I don't know what to do.
>>7976293Calling her a whore only makes her more aroused, anon.
>>7976294You are the Howie meme. You are the character in this comic.
>>7976252this is goated
>>7976212imagine if you drew gestures or even manequins or instead of random cylindersyou'd be /adv/ by now
>>7976239It isn't bad and some of the rendering of the latex especially around the feet is actually really good.In my opinion this is an improvement on your previous stuff.I do think that you have a stylistic problem in terms of having a heavily stylized face with a rendered body, to fix that you would probably need to either push the face further towards realism or push the body further towards Stylization.You're improving, just keep going and keep analyzing. Anatomy studies would help you with understanding the forms of the body a little better. I think some targeted anatomy studies especially of the arms and torso/abdomen would help if you can make time for some studies.I think compositionally you could consider value structure more, maybe find some art from artists that you really like and study their compositions in terms of value structure.
>>7976298There's no goat there, you blind retard.
>>7976296>>7976291Read>>7976283You're essentially just piling up a bunch of confusing shit on me and expecting me to instantly master it.
>>7976246Arbiter Wolf mogs you
I got my first commissionThis is still a WIP, but can you guys tell who the male character is supposed to be?Like, is it readable?
>>7976310Looks like Wesker from Resident Evil.
>>7976309I'm cheering for my nigga arby
>>7976313It's a good thing you stopped and went back to drawing nothing but boxes, otherwise you might have improved.
so how does it go? gestures then cubes then manquins?
>>7976300>drew gestures or even manequinsI’ve already done that.
>>7976310I'm almost 100% this is Albert Wesker
>>7976318but you haven't done a gazillion, like with your cylinders in boxes
>>7976312>>7976319It is! I'm so happy you can tell.My biggest worry was that I'd send the drawing and he'd say>uh... Wesker doesn't look like that...I really hope the commissioner will like it.pic unrelated, something else I drew last week
>>7976322You're a superstar with massive potential. Peril will be here shortly to tell you your latest hat kid drawing is the best in the thread.
please stop giving the hatkidtard attention. if even gets handholded by one of /ic/'s best but still comes here to whine and moan about his..... *GASP*, ADHD!... (like he's the only person on planet earth with this) then he's here to self-pity jerk himself off
>>7976298Thanks man
>>7976331if he's like what he seems to be like, all he really wants is to be told that it's not his fault.I've wasted hundreds of hours trying to help people who just pretend to want help and the only thing that makes their faces light up is being told that nothing is their fault, they never had a chance to begin with, and that they should just give up.They don't want to get better. They're looking for people to tell them they never stood a chance in the first place so they feel less guilty about giving up.
I am back in this hoe... because warcraft 3 always makes me want to start drawing again
>>7976336
>>7976335Anon, I've had people tell me in depth what I need to do to draw and I still can't figure it out. There's something fundamentally wrong in my brain. I can't study, I can't focus, I can't internalize any of this shit. I don't know what to do.
I've been trying and trying and trying for a fucking year and I still can't figure out the most basic shit.
>>7976314Same
>>7976310Looks like a femboy and a based enjoyed to me
>>7976338Then give up. Is that what you want us to say?
Trying a figure again, for the fifty thousandth time.
>>7976346KEEEEEEEEEEK
>>7976251Maybe whe are not using the board at the same time, I only post sometimes
>>7976347Gee, I wonder what's building up a negative association between me and drawing, surely not because every time I show off something here, it gets me reactions like this.
>>7976338lots of people have adhd and manage to work and study just finethere's nothing wrong with your brain either, in fact it's pretty normal for the brain to dislike hard work, that's why most normalfags never commit to anything or do anything of noteyou'll just have to accept that will also be your fate
>>7976338don't you think your next step would be figuring out how to focus?the best thing i've heard is to turn off background noise and to split whatever you're doing into 30minute bricksfor 30 minutes, you only do that. Do the dishes, clean, or draw, just do anything. Keep doing that and it'll get easier with time. Once you can sit down for 30 minutes without distractions you can start studying
>>7976352I'm on adderall, and antidepressants, I should have zero problem focusing. I can only focus on things like playing video games because they're inherently stimulating, other times I just sit in bed looking at my phone.
Even when I can focus on drawing, it only helps me produce shit like what I've been doing for the past year, it doesn't help me study or practice.
>>7976356Just keep drawing. Yes, your drawings are shit and you've made no progress for an entire year. But the good news is you're bring smiles and laughter to the rest of /ic/. The total happiness in the world increased or something.
>>7976338We sincerely want you to give up drawing already.
>>7976352Also, I'm literally drawing right now, look here.
>>7976212You’ve inspired me, cylinder-anon. They’ve been a weakness of mine for quite a while and I’m ready to change that>>7976216Draw what you want using boxes >>7976219lol you can
>>7976358>made no progress for an entire yearSeveral people have told me otherwise.
>>7976362I love this.
how much time should i spend in a topic?Taking into account that i have little thecnical knowledge in art? one day? two? when should i move to the next topic?
>>7976362>silently drops an absolute masterpiece>refuses to elaborateI'm thinking based. >>7976363>Draw what you want using boxesDownright genius. Probably a lot harder than it sounds though.
>>7976288I'm super glad it helped! There was definitely some jank in my understanding of the process, but I've polished it a bit more since and have been doing head drawings daily to improve on my ability to explain it. Also fun tip; try using a parallelogram for the eyes as a base. ;)
>>7976362Love the ass
>>7976361Just copy bro
>>7976370Am I doing any of this shit correctly, or am I still not getting it?
>>7976368I generally allocate 27.65 minutes per topic, unless im feeling it's an important topic, in which cast I will allocate 27.79 minutes, to make sure I complete the topic before transitioning to the next topic
How do you guys manage your references?I started out with a little pose-mannequin, but then when I did that, I would think>wait how do I draw a face at this angle?so I picked a face reference, and then I'd be like>and the hair?so I look for a hair reference...What's the go-to way? Should I just copy some existing, good artworks to get an understanding of what I'm doing?
>>7976351Those people that have managed to make it that far with ADHD are because they have external motivators to do so. Not because they were fundamentally self-motivated.
>>7976370I didn't mind the jank, that's how it is to draw I guess. it's only been a few days so I haven't figured out the placement or even design for facial features yet lol just winging it. That faint pattern I see is the loomis thing right? I barely retained the theory when reading it and I just use 2 lines like shown on pic related.
Why am I just not getting it? Why can't I follow a tutorial when someone gives it to me?
El rato>>7976373Hat kid anon?
I love Hatkidfag episodes.
>>7976385>>7976384Nobody in this thread is even attempting to give me the slightest bit of help.
>>7976386you don't want help
>>7976375>How do you guys manage your references?A metric fuckton of PureRef collages. You'll probably be referencing images for as long as you're drawing, since that's the smart thing to do. Eventually you'll feel like you understand enough to wing it though. >>7976373picrel>>7976381>That faint pattern I see is the loomis thing right? Yep
>>7976394I'm actually having her doing a goofy flexing pose where she's turning around and looking back, that's why I didn't put the jaw like that yet.
>>7976368a lifetimetwo if possible
>>7976380This furry has ADHD like a motherfucker. I've seen it in action. Plus seems like their family hates them being an artist. And yet their follower count is insane. You've got issues but it ain't the ADHD that's the issue.
i guess i will as here, is this decent enough?
>>7976369Look at some Kim Jung gi stuff. Really isn’t as hard as you may think
>>7976401Anon if you can afford to, try to draw on regular paper. Looks to me like you’ve got the general idea of the body down, try to learn anatomy more in depth and work on proportions. >>7976369
>>7976403finally an answer thanks man, so anatomy an proportionsfuck but the second is hard i don't know what to do to make it better, use cubes?
Tried something new. The old fat ink brush I used in the past, but with some shadows and blush. Result is more forgiving, because of the crudeness of the tools. With finer brushes you have no excuses and everything looks wonky and requires more ... uh... alignment.>>7976252This looks pretty cool.>>7975859good base to spend 5 hours rendermonkeying with to get that 50k views drawing.>>7975707>>7975681Big fan of outsider art>>7975563cool. This is the sort of stuff I go for.
>>7976394Aight thanks, gonna try to add another line or something for the eyes/brow. Also nice example with that shadow showing the defined chin, I had some visions of it while drawing but since the face was round I got that dumbass frieren drawing pop up lmao. Wasn't even intentional, the box I came up with turned out looking that way.
>>7976404I mean you can but just study proportions, there are guides for them in pretty much every art book relating to humans
>>7976413aight
>>7976310good if they're both guys
I am tired of seeing others improve so easily. Going from deviantart begshit to patreon topearner in just two yearsI want to get better as well.
>>7976417Who has done that in this thread exactly
>>7976423Both brazilfags. I was also seeing Krekk0vs early art from an archive dump and he went from deviantart nightmare to Patreon superstar earning 15k dollars a month in just two years.I cant even make it out of deviantart permabeg subhuman.
>>7976424nigger
>>7976425Why are you being mean
>>7976426you are a bating nigger from the sharty praising an ai tracer, rope
>>7976424who's the Brazilfags?
>>7976427No I am not. I have been here for years and see them go from 0 to great in very short time.
>>7976423Give me a year and I'll get there
>7976429so fucking obvious, everyone responding to this shitstain is a retard >>7976428one beggie that posts here and constantly fucks up his forms and one ai tracer that posted here for a short while before they got retards to follow him on xitter
undefined robotic stuff
>>7976424hunger is a strong motivatorbeing concrete abour your goals (i.e. 'I want them patreon coombux' vs 'I want to get good') also helps
>>7976397Why not just actually complete the drawing? Construction is here to help you do what you want, you can't know how good you will be able to use it to finish your stuff without actually drawing over it.>>7976417In a few month ill be two years in and im still permabeg cause im a lazy faggot who can't decide on a single thing to try and get good at. It is what it is.
>>7976437Looks cool, make me think of stuff like Mobius or Nausicaa
>>7976443pyw
>>7976451Can't wait until trannies find their holy land and migrate there with all of their chasers so that we never have to see them clog shit up again. :) Nice work I think
>>7976434still don't know who those people are
>>7976454Trannies would never migrate with chasers. They want straight men lol
>>7976448>>7976384>>7975217As i said, i just pursue whatever jingling keys of the week attract my attention
Just put this thread out of its misery and make a new one.
>>7976458Why am i not posting any picture wtf>>7976451The horsecock is based but im not sure i like whatever else is going on
>>7976434I think I remember the AI tracerBut missed his early arc and I cannot say for sure whether he traced AI.
>>7976461total vtuber death can't come soon enough
>>7976461anatomy is a pinch off
>>7976472I don't even watch them i just goon to them.>>7976474Thanks anon! I'll save that correction
>>7976413Surprised they did the children kek
Oh, anons are still falling for the same bait, how surprising.
I seriously don't know if I can make it another year without learning a single thing or even improving at all.
Is this good practice or am I wasting my time? Not sure if I'm making any real progress or stagnating.
>>7976505How do you do figures like this?
>>7976505do you have a goal for these is the questionlearning animators will do pages upon pages upon gestures, figures, and life drawing because they need those fundamentals for animating
No idea if I'm doing this correctly.
>>7976509I thumbnail sketch and block in a somewhat constructed figure, then light erase and draw over sketch, repeat as many times as it takes to get a sketch that looks decent.>>7976510Unironically something simple like generic anime girl on white background, because fuck me if I'm going to draw a background if I can't even draw a figure.
>>7976511you are not
>>7976511Wtf am I looking at?
>>7976515>because fuck me if I'm going to draw a backgroundyou have to apply yourself. if someone can go from this...
>>7976515>>7976522to this, then you can do the same
morpho slop
Anatomically speaking, how far down the ribcage do the average boobs go?
>>7976537about tree fiddy
>>7976362Cute! I would love for the tail to feel fluffier. The legs are a bit stiff. More squish in the breasts would be nice too. Great job!>>7976324cool work! the mush head is really good.>>7976239>Maybe I am doomed to be a perma/beg/No, but your composition and color are underdeveloped. The skin tone is quite ugly and lifeless. Simply darkening an area is a bad choice most of the time, but it's an easy fix, study color. As for the composition, it looks cramped. Either zoom out and let it breathe, or change the camera lens to something that adds more space, such as a 5-point perspective.>>7976405try shading with the lasso tool>>7976505No, but try using references from real professional photographers from time to time. Those reference packs are usually pretty awful and have no real intent whatsoever. Pompeo Posar is a good place to start. After that, you can look into italian, spanish and japanese photographers as well.
>>7976537
Thoughts
>>7976560Looks good, but I'm not sure if that's a stylistically placed heart for the dickhead or a very misplaced frenulum
>>7976561Both desu, I added it at the very end without thinking about it too much. Could you draw over it and show me how it should be done?
I suck so much ass at designing outfits. more often than not it seems like I just slap a handful of my fetishes and call it a day.
>>7976560I wish I had talent...
>>7976562It should look more like this, the frenulum is found on the underside of the penis so it's pretty jarring to see it closely depicted at any other angle than below. Stylistically of course you could make heart cockheads still work
>>7976570Oh I see, thanks a lot
>>7976560dick ruins it, twisted and the length to thickness ratio is unnatural, the arms are sort of akward, other than that its beatiful
>>7976246I kneel.
>>7976565mogs me
i apologize to jannies, i really didnt mean to break the rules i just forget sometimes what counts as anthro>>7976565desu real womens fashion is so vapid and plastic for me you should just embrace making unrealistic outfits
>>7976585more goonslop PLEASE
>>7974483I replied to you...elsewhere. Just so you know.
>>7976362WAWAWWAWAAW
monkey
>>7976511You HAVE TO BE talking the piss at this point.
>>7976589is this some sort of reverse psychology to get me to stop>>7976563revamp her face>>7976523>from mogs me to mogs mewhy is it never from mogsmatch to better its always just increasingly mogging me>>7976511you always bitch and moan for advice but the one i gave you you just completely ignored
>>7975167i tried to do something but i failed, whatever i have to get better.
>>7975236I've just never really did nsfw before in general but I'm liking it rn its super fun imo.
>>7976562Is getting other artists to redraw your penis a fetish?
>>7976597Yeah, I replied back!>>7974498>I used to not like you peril. I'll keep it real. But you've grown on me. Like a little tumor. Ty.-Sigend - trannyWOW!!! That's really kind of you! Thank you so much! If you have an idea for me to draw just tell me!>>7974639>That's sexy, I like that. Thank you for drawing it - I'm happy I could spread the gospel of Clone Yuki.I'M SO GLAD YOU LIKED HER!!!!>>7974945>>7976648>Thanks good to see your consistent as alwaysTHANK YOU SO MUCH!!! You're stuff is amazing, I'm eager to see more of it!>>7975011What's with them?>>7976639This is really interesting render wise...>>7976505You're doing a GREAT job. You may not notice, but I can see how these figures you do, get better and better. You're just feeling the fatigue of the endless repetition, that's understandable and it's normal to feel like something is "wrong". You're human, no one can ask you to keep going no matter what, if you feel like you need to make a change in the type of exercises you do, do it if it helps your mood. You must keep yourself in a good, positive and healthy mind state. Always prioritize that.>>7976437COOOOL!!!!!>>7976362I LOVE her face and hair, and ears...
>>7976648blog? awesome stuff
>>7976672it's a lot of them
spent the weekend trying to put down lineart on this one but couldn't, so this remains the end result>>7976505>Is this good practice or am I wasting my time? Not sure if I'm making any real progress or stagnatinguh-oh dangerous thoughts>>7976522this is nice>>7976523this is slop (I can't do both)
>>7976537Just a random tidbit, it’s not uncommon in anime proportions to have the end of the boobs be one head down, and the end of the ribcage to extend slightly past that
>>7976639failed again, i dont like drawing hair.
>>7976698good shit, how do i replicate your brush? i'm curious with the opacity control
Even I’ve gotten a reply from the mass replier. If you’ve never gotten a reply from xhem you are DOGSHIT lmao
>>7976511I can't even take this seriously anymore, what am I even looking at, what is this nightmare.
Today's sketch. I've been working on face planes and likeness for almost 3 months now. I keep straightening the tilt. It doesn't even look like her.I'm really frustrated with myself, feels like I can never capture likeness. Not going to give up but can someone share some advice on avoiding straightening tilts and capturing likeness? When I set out my block in I make sure to check the angles and everything seems correct but somewhere along the line I fuck it up.
>>7976770Saged. Same anon, I stopped drawing once I realized I fucked up the tilt. I was already not happy with the likeness and I just got so frustrated. In case you were wondering why I didn't complete it.
>>7976505How much of this can you do now from memory? Try redoing some of these without any references.
>>7976726the's nothing to it. I use either smooth or pixelated round brush with pressure opacity, wouldn't dare try anything more complex. I adjust opacity both with pessure and layer settings
Um… new thread please???
im too frustrated to draw anymore, fucking hair sucks to draw.
>>7976779Neat, thanks
I literally cannot draw anatomy unless im directly copying and even then i still suck ass. Does anyone have a good way to learn perspective and anatomy thats retard proof and doesnt make me want to blow my brains out
>>7976698Do they have names? They are not cousins... are they...
Bros.. I am cooking
>>7976841no you're drawing
>>7976849And I'm not!!!
I’m withholding my pending posts until the next thread
Quitting drawing permanently and letting myself rot as a loser for having had to witness people just enjoying themselves and drawing together (I will never have friends, be included in any groups, and never be normal)
>>7976873The world is so much worse off for not being graced with your brilliance sooner
you said that a couple days ago pedro chan
Daily troon meltdown
>>7976873You can still crit and comment on other works.
>>7976882>Quitting drawing permanently and letting myself rot as a loserThat's scary though. But so is drawing. So I am permanently stuck in this limbo state.
>>7976882>>7976893do a flip faggot
>>7976849
>>7976882ok pedro
k bye
>>7976902lol
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
need a gf to sit next to me while I draw and stab me if I put the pen down
>>7976925I always thought that a big scary nigg with a whip would work much better, bitches are annoying as fuck when they get moody
>>7976925i always stagnate from drawing whenever i'm in a relationship
Cloth/drapery study.I should try to also incorporate color next time
>>7976937Stack these in the same perspective plane on your next Just Draw post.
>>7976904lol you look nothing like that
>>7976938Get your priorities straight. Art before hoes, always.
"Just draw" for "Fun"
>>7975492Thanks anon, my eyes might be tricking me. Felt the left eye might be angled wrong. >>7975728I don’t really post anywhere anymore, at least not consistently. I might try relaunching my socials soon.>>7975731wgmi
doodles
Where new thread?
>>7976988sex
>>7976985Always do this. Never not put them on the same perspective. Cement it into your brain. Also, if this is digital, don't plague our eyes with these gnarly perspective lines. Just draw your usual, make it clean, so we can admire your work properly. Also, have you checked out >startwithabox on instagramI think you can do this if you keep doing the perspective thing + your silly boxes and cylindars. From here you can actually draw literally anything.Also try rotating the same box within the perspective. That'll probably throw you for a loop.
>>7976993That's the formerly ellipse and line schizo, I remember seeing them a couple years ago, recently they graduated to boxes and cylinders, and now seems they're applying them to perspective grids. I think your advice is well meaning but they just kinda do that. At this rate though they'll be constructing things out of boxes and cylinders soon
>>7976985right now most of them lie outside of any reasonable cone of vision push the vps off the page and try again
>>7976996>and now seems they're applying them to perspective grids.Ya, I recommended they do that here >>7976947I think I've spoken to them a few times. While not nearly as hopeless as hatkid anon, I think they're onto something with this weird strat. If drawing boxes is what he does when he feels he can't draw anime faces, then he can actually do very well doing this, since most of everyone else does the reverse; learning anime and stylized shit and then ahving to go back and relearn perspective and the like. I believe in him for some fucking reason.
>>7976993nta but how do I know if im doing this right without outside help?
>>7977001That's a good question. You could just use perspective lines honestly. There is an actual method to rotating boxes in perspective. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNA1oBmWRY4You could also copy from the account however much you want.
>>7976989I'd suck your cock and swallow your cum for a fraction of your skill.
>>7976988i hate this ugly western artstyle but it feels impossible to do anime as a non-japanese/chink/korean/taiwanese man. I hope i don't give up, loomis and drawpile is not for me.
>>7977006Anon if you need a confidence booster this badly just turn on the symmetry tool and try drawing a head. It’ll kneecap you in the long run but you’ll feel good for a little bit.
>>7977010I'm just funposting until a new thread is made.
>>7976993i never get how much you need to tilt the boxes and how much one overlaps the other in specific angles, how do people know? references? some kind of virtual box puppet website?
>>7977012All of the above, yeah. Practice as well. Drawing on top of photos helps immensely. But also remember the most important thing of all.There is no objectively right or wrong way to draw.There is only suggestions and shortcuts. There are more tedious ways to do things and ways to make your life miserable.
>>7976990Give me my (You)s first.
>>7977014samefag This is two different ways to measure the human body, both drawn by a single artist. It's up to you to choose the one that works with you best.
>>7977007…Was I supposed to draw an old man like an anime girl?
I'll make a new thread. First time and the collage will be kinda shit, but I'll try to include everyone this time.
>>7977020>will be kinda shitWe will be the ones to judge that.
>>7976993startwithabox is hit or miss, some of thier 'tips' are overcomplicating straightforward workflows with niggerboxes>>7977005>rare actually helpful tutorialmy jaw dropped
>>7976942Good shit
>>7976989/adv/
>>7976769>>7976629>>7976516>>7976521Nice samefag.
>>7977014>>7977016nice to hear, thank you
Trying to follow a different body drawing method.
>>7976986Hehehe i allways loved warhammer illustrations, there is so much shit going on, good stuff.
>>7977020Don't keep us waiting
I'm so honored.
>>7977058I'm WORKIN here
>>7977061ermm don't forget my work
>>7977061make sure >>7976511 is not left out.
>>7977061>no actual beg drawings> the same usual retardsWhat's the point?
>>7977068Alight you know what, I will stop the progress I have here. Everyone thank this guy.
dont listen to this retarded cuck keep making the collage
>>7977070Why not add actual begs instead of the usual clique?
>>7977061God bless you anon
>>7977080New thread.Baby's first thread be nice to me.
>>7977068You're an annoying faggot. Next time YOU make the thread and pick the art in the OP.
>>7977083Nah
>>7977061don't include the permabegsthey don't deserve it
>>7977061including everyone is no fun
