If you are a /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.DO NOT REPLY to crabs, nodraws, over-analyzing schizos, retards that whine about how hard drawing is or talent debates and instead focus on posted works!>Post Your Work>STICKY:New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0QHardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?viewHardcore (working link): https://hackmd.io/@ArtStudies/rJxNW6aonHardcore (wayback archive):https://hackmd.io/@0uRfwdEoRDiHFz9wibb5sA/ry8nyys6-lCompleted(short):https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jUeG8UTwDAK8WGC4f79IlBGIAGVipfHvo48RF5Xgxyc (sus discord server don't join)Completed: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vm4IJpq0Mbvb-Krl5_mJ_m6TsC_qjsaN/vieww/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/>WHERE to get study materials>>>/ic/artbook>>>/ic/video>Want to practice figures?quickposes.comcharacterdesigns.comlovelifedrawing.composemy.artline-of-action.com>best art teachersGlenn VilppuMichael HamptonSteve HustonBrent EvistonMarco BucciAndrew LoomisGeorge BridgmanHikaru HayashiHide Sensei>best art booksKeys To DrawingDrawing With the Right Side of the BrainHow To Draw Comics the Marvel WayThe Art and Science of DrawingFramed PerspectiveFigure Drawing For All It's WorthThe Complete Guide to Drawing From LifePrevious thread: >>7973305
This is the one
This isn't the one. Delete this thread, make a new one and see me after class.
ermm you skipped my work
>>7977080Im in the op, thanks
Enfin
>draw a circle, think it looks really good, almost perfect>rotate my paper, realize it’s actually an oval>make one axis longer to make it a true circle>”ok now it looks good”>rotate my paper back, now the ORIGINAL view makes it look like an oval>make it bigger again to compensate, rotate paper again, still an oval>keep going back and forth like this several timesMy eyes are literally feeding me false information. It always looks fine from one angle and bad from the other. What the fuck as I supposed to do? If I have a systematic bias built into my eyes at the hardware level how am I supposed to overcome that? Honestly I think this is what separates permabegs from people who can actually draw, some people just have defects that make them not cut out for this
How do I learn to draw like this
>>7977091ask peril
>>7977084Sir, I think I will be droping your class.
THREAD CHALLENGE
>>7977095fucking lolI need to do this one actually
>>7977080im in the OP I am satisfied
Trying a new body construction method
>>7977080I'm in the op thanks man!!!!!! go go go
Can someone post an actual thread challenge
but, like, how
Currently working on thumbnails. Which I never did before and it's making things easier for progression. I have been following these two videos. They are excellent. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZluGXgpdJj4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aovyWGBj-nc
ACTUAL THREAD CHALLENGE
>It was a bit too warm for exercising
>>7977114ywnbaw
>>7977115???
>>7977112you guys ever tried to get actual good references or is it all third world gooner trash and shitty beg trap pictures? I swear, these are literally made for you to draw the animes.
I have a wfh job where I don’t have to do a whole lot but I do have to stay anchored to my computer in case anyone messages me. I never actually drew much during the workday in spite of having the free time because all my art stuff was in another room, but ever since I got a Movink it’s really easy and convenient to start drawing on it while laying on the couch or in bed or wherever, and I actually have been drawing during the day now.Moral of the story is that accessibility is really important and it can make it significantly easier to actually make yourself practice. Make it as physically easy for yourself as possible to actually draw. Clean your workspace to make it comfortable and appealing, set yourself up with all the right tools, etc.
It should be illegal to criticize the thread challenge without posting one of your own
>>7977121see >>7977115
>>7977080Is it good gesture drawing practice video? Can you recommend something better?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JujlFkx_4F0
>>7977122that's what I did from 2021 to 2025. Had a WFH job and I did mostly nothing and studied a lot during those years. Nowadays I teach a bit of english on the side and mostly do art too.
>>7977125 keep posting garbage then, not my problem.
>>7977128Quickposes. https://quickposes.com/en
>practice isn't fun but the only way to progress>drawing for fun is discouraging when you see how bad your art isWhen does it end?
>>7977128Unironically the Proko ones. The guy you posted is doing contour work which is not the objective of a gesture study.
>>7977128>Is it good gesture drawing practice video?No>Can you recommend something better?No
>>7977102Can anyone just post thread challenges?I could post some non coom if you guys want it
Was feeling a bit delirious yesterday, but that motivated me to draw today.
>>7977134>>7977136Thanks
You guys are forever stuck with pinterest and goon trash and that's for the best.
How do I get out of this motivation-lacking slump that I've been feeling lately? Drawing was really fun until a week or two ago, but now I just don't feel like it at all. I'm still drawing every day but not nearly as much as I used to.
you lost troon
>>7977151Just take a break, it's normal to eventually get tired, so use that as an opportunity to have fun in other ways and get inspired for when you're in the mood again.
>>7977151You either get obsessed like a brazilian is addicted to drugs or you take it easy and take a break. Your choice bozo.
I have no idea if I'm doing this correctly.
>>7977080Good first OP.It lacks coherence, compared to Deer's OPs (I think she did those), but it checks out.
>>7977157does it look correct to you?
>>7977157It's really tiresome to see you ignoring any help, but lets do it like this, you're not doing it correctly. This is a waste of your time and won't get you anywhere, for your good. Do full body sketches from reference limiting yourself to max 5 minutes per reference, then repeat from imagination. Don't use construction, and if there's an artist you really like, do copies of their work.
>>7977161I feel like there's something wrong with the length of the arms and I might have made the hips too wide.
>>7977121Where did you get this ref?
>>7977162Anon, I want to fucking learn construction. Tell me what I'm doing wrong and how to fix it. I'm following exactly what someone told me to do in my thread, and apparently that's still not enough for you.
Over 20 hours of unbridled "fun."
>>7977157You’re not.
>>7977169Okay, so then what do I do?
>>7977167Mogs hat kid retard but still sad.
>>7977167Keep rotating things. I believe in you anon. You and your... is that paint tool sai
>>7977162>Do full body sketches from reference limiting yourself to max 5 minutes per reference, then repeat from imagination. Don't use construction, and if there's an artist you really like, do copies of their work.How about no. Unless you want me to actually improve and draw the shit that I want to draw, tell me what I'm doing wrong and give me a tutorial step by step to show me what I'm doing wrong. Otherwise, I'm going to keep banging my head against a wall doing nothing.
>>7977165You really get nothing from construction right now, do what I said in >>7977162 instead.
>>7977175Unless you want me to actually improve and draw the shit that I want to draw, tell me what I'm doing wrong and give me a tutorial step by step to show me what I'm doing wrong. Otherwise, I'm going to keep banging my head against a wall doing nothing. I've done like 50 of these already.
If you're going to respond to him, just mock him and move on retards.
>>7977177Keep at it then, the only solution for your problems at this point is professional help.
>>7977179That's not what I asked for you for. I asked for a step by step tutorial. If you're not going to give me that, then don't respond.
>>7977180You'd be better off going to a physical teacher, they'd give you focused and guided responses based on how you actually draw.
>>7977181No. I want something that I can follow by myself and figure this out. I don't want to go and see a real life teacher.
>>7977183>follow by myself and figure this outYou are incapable of following or keeping to anything. Find someone, anyone, irl and stop shitting up these threads
>>7977187I've explained again and again, that I cannot ever ever ever ever self-motivate. It's completely impossible. My brain literally does not have the neurochemical structures that are grown enough to do it. The only way I can do anything is by externalizing all the rewards. My brain will make me want to rush to the end and not take my time.No amount of medicine, exercise, dieting, or telling myself to do it, has made this go away.Unless I get something that works for me and my brain, I will get nowhere. Give me something that works for my brain, otherwise, I'm never going to improve.
how do you retards keep falling for the hatkidcuck's bait?
That's it, I'm drawing Hat Kid taking the biggest blackest cock ever.
reconnaissance drone
>>7977189You deserve it
>>7977189Have you tried autoarsaphsyxiation? Choke your neck and hold your breath until you can't anymore; then start drawing. The rush of endorphins flooding your brain and sheer physical pleasure will jumpstart your drawing technique and impart true soul into your work. It is the purest example of the creative divine spirit entering your body.I recommend using a neck tie.
>>7977102
Reposting since it only caught the tail end of the last thread.
Another blame study. Next time I will use a ruler
>>7977191this but unironically
1 week without drawing, I spent 5 months doing circles and ovals, some boxes here and there, spheres and for last, cylinders. I'm too much of a perfeccionism and dont know were to go, and how to study
i want to draw, but fuuuuuck i just cant stop doomscrolling youtube and videogaming
>>7977178The thing is; if you see this guy get critique with images, other people will learn too. So it isn't a complete loss. If anything, he's kind of a magnet for others to go into depth about their methods with good suggestion on climbing out of the /beg/ rut.
>>7977193Does this look correct?
>>7977112The only reliably consistent thing in my life is how awful the reference of the day in this thread is
Am I doing this correctly?
>>7977207No
>>7977167vps still too close togetherplace them further out, create the cone of vision at least for a couple until you get most of your boxes within it
>imagine not having fun>>7977112i did the thing>>7977200 you captured its spirit pretty well, the shadow transition on the left side of the building look a bit weird though
>>7977217Bro, you just added 100 hours to the grind with that comment
you dont need vanishing points when making some simple angle right?
>>7976551recommended me to lasso-tool and it really makes shadowing easier... but I don't think I do it quite right, still.
>>7977192possibly your best one yet- though I miss your trademark line gap
>>7977216Okay, what did I do wrong?
>>7977229also inb4 shadows don't match sun: there's another bigger one out of sight!
>>7977192This is amazing. More dynamic than your usual stuff.>>7977229I like the simple style of lines and detailing
Figured I should start doing gesture drawing since I'm learning anatomy, forgot how badly it filters me
>>7977219these are really nice
>>7977192Very nice
I'm noticing that the moment I start doing things correctly like here >>7977207Everyone stops responding.
Still wants attention despite getting what he wanted.Untreated mental illness.
>>7977234Are those the proportions you want? Then you're good. Doesn't look like you were trying for realistic proportions but of your were then you're off
>>7977112where are her tittus
>>7977256Stop replying to it.
>>7977154>>7977156I think I'll try doing studies from reference instead of forcing myself to draw from imagination. I'm scared that if I stop drawing completely for a while I'll blink and three months will have passed.
Perfect cubes using true 90/45. I should have skipped coloring, but oh well. Now it is time to do the Krenz cubes grid, but I will do it freehand. I did it formally here to apply my learnings and have real cube references of my own.
>>7977254This is a non-dynamic mannequin with differently sized arms. A lazy day 1 sketch by someone who picked up the stylus for the first time.What's there to say?
>>7977256I'm not doing realistic proportions.
>>7977269Anon, I've been drawing for an entire fucking year. What do you mean this looks like a day 1 sketch? How the fuck do I make this look any better?
ONENEYEAREAR
>>7977254I'm noticing that you want to skip steps. You are not worth anons' time. To draw hatkid, you need fundamentals, the very ones that you do not put the effort to learn.Here, go study for a FEW MONTHS (with real paper and pen) before reaching for others: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f312sDwg770&list=PLqR-aNpyEIVd91GCwsyOS3oRn6eoRhyio&index=1
>>7977275I'm not using real pen and paper. I want to use a stylus. Real pen and paper is too difficult for me because of my shaky hands. Real fundamental grinding is really fucking difficult if not impossible because my ADHD makes me want to skip steps and not take my time.
STOP GIVING IT (you)S!Holy fuck how hard is it to not reply to it? A quarter of the last thread was wasted because of it.
I seriously don't know how many times I need to explain why I can't use pen and paper or do these studies like everyone says I should.
ribbit ribbit ribbit
I CANT FUCKING DRAW. HELP ME.FUCKING HELP ME PLEASE GOD I BEG AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Is there ever a point where you can copy something and have it look perfect without tons of erasing? Or do you just develop a style and you can quickly draw in that style only? And to get to that point do I just keep copying styles I like from reference?
>>7977286You just lack talent.
>>79772861:1 copies are a begtrap
>>7977286you get better at what you practice>>7977268nice, here's the process for 3 point perspective, in case you're curioushttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGiUMnjEthAit's also fun to take a 2 or 3 point perspective photo or drawing and try to place a perfect cube in it
hyuy
>>7977174good luck with that
Nodraws, crabs.ASSEMBLE!! KILL EM ALL KILL EM ALL KIL EM ALL
>>7977287Pyw
>>7977290Thanks for the video ref, will save it for further studying! I'm going through the full NMA perspective course, so 3-point comes at the end, but I will get there and do it formally as well. And as you recommended, Erik also does a lot of drawing perfect cubes in photos or old master art, so I surely need to do some myself.
drawing asa chainsaw man - once from memory, then from reference, then constructing an original (if very simple) unique drawing after, but not while, looking at the reference.>>7977284frogchad.... are you using marker? i kneel...(any tips?)>>7977244really soulful line drawing
>>7977275>I'm noticing that you want to skip stepsYes, because my brain will want to skip steps and not take my time and no matter how much medicine I'm on, no matter how much exercise I do, no matter how much i change my diet, this keeps happening. I don't want to spend a million hours just drawing boxes, cylinders and lines, I want to draw what I want.
>>7977297Yes I'm using alcohol markers and a white gel pen!! I wish I had some advice for you but I'm very new to this myself so I'm just experimenting with each new drawing
>>7977299stop playing the victim and do what you don’t want to. You are in control of your self
maker of scary nigga.jpg here (hard-shaded face with stickman body). Fr any advice on that type of shading? and is the anatomy ok? i wanted to learn skulls to help with drawing faces.
>>7977090have you angled your drawing surface to reduce the distortion?
>>7977122how comfy is it to use lying down? my back hurts if I sit at my desk for too long.
>>7977135draw the thing you like badly. then see HOW it's bad. correction is needed... to grow.
>>7977303how does this work for digital sissies with drawing pads looking at their monitor..
>>7977293KILL ALL TALENTED RATS
>>7977112Someday I'll be able to ink and color one of these in a reasonable amount of time...
>>7977221if you've already internalized perspective rules you don't need it. if you just wanna sketch for fun you don't need it. but if something looks wrong, you can use it to troubleshoot what is wrong.
>finally decide to lock in and take illustration seriously as a hobby cuz I want to draw appealing looking things for my DnD campaign>want to chat up my fellow anons about it>PC is range banned for "abuse">I barely post on 4chan to begin with and it's not rule breaking shit when I doHow fucking long is this shit gonna last? I am not about to suffer mobile posting here for the rest of my days because the mods nuked some faggot from orbit.
>>7977308if you have proper eye's forward form then you shouldn't matter as much
>>7977080
>>7977308should be fine, see bottom left
>>7977312The range bans usually don’t last that long, maybe a couple weeks. Depends on how fast you can get a new IP obviously
>>7977296you can also take the chance to try to paint the cubes and make them fit in the environment / light situationit's a lot of fun honestly
>>7977318>weeksJoy. Alas I have my IP set for port forwarding reasons. I guess I'll just draw in the meantime.
>>7977301If I could, I would have been doing it rather than spending my entire year doing stuff like this.
I CANT DRAW. I CANT FUCKING DRAW. I AM FUCKING PERMABEG SHIT.
>>7977324you probably mog the fuck out of this cuck thought >>7977323
>>7977325I CANT DRAW
>>7977308Also remember to set forced proportions ON in the driver menu. Honestly the magnification of your drawing strokes compared to what is shown on the monitor is more of an issue to me, got a medium sized tablet so I reduced the drawing area and it's nicer.
>>7977324>>7977327BWO YOUR TALENT?
>>7977323You were supposed to learn how to learn first. Back to square one
>>7977219Ty anon. Yeah I am still learning alcohol markers so I did a lot of experimenting and desu trying to cover up mistakes
>>7977329NEGATIVE.
>>7977323This doesn't look bad actually. Keep doing whatever it is you did to do this.
random sketches
>>7977342TALENTED RAT
the cum... they mock me
Can someone help me figure out how to get into the right mental space to draw? It's not even that I'm stressed out, it's that my mind is so chaotic that I feel like I have to be in the exact right place and time to draw effectively.
Colored and fixed the head
>>7977288What else are you supposed to do if you don't have a style yet though?
>>7977346Start drawing anything
Draw this ref that's been making rounds among coom artists
I'm an absolute beginner, is it worth trying to start by copying stuff when my line quality/control is so poor? Would it be better to just start grinding shapes and lines?I've been having fun trying to understand how to copy what i see, but I haven't seen much improvement so far.
>>7977354terrible ref. you just want people to draw your fetish
>>7977349
>>7977376 He even redlined the cube! I kneel. Thank you good sir
Trying to make a reasonable effort at drawing daily, haven’t picked up a pencil in years, i’m a bit of a shit student and have a shit time learning from books so just hoping i can pick up more from doing reps
I want to draw but I'm so fucking tired I forget what I'm doing every 5 minutes
>>7977382do you draw with purpose?
>>7977344talentless pet
>>7977376>mfw grasping the concept of perspective on paper
>>7977385are ya feeling the forms son?
>take 2 days off from drawing to watch EVO over the weekend>come back today>spend like 2 hours fumbling about trying to draw heads but can't get anything right even though i've already studied this before>same thing with figures>only things i did in an extra hour that i liked were just copy studies of some sketches from other artists
>>7977386I said grasp but it's more like uhh pinch, so no.
>>7977356draw line. if it looks bad, ctrl+z and try again until you like it. do this while drawing whatever you want and you kill 2 birds w 1 stone. you can even undo a good line and try to replicate it. i'd say youll want a lower opacity brush for that tho.
>>7977387gotta do daily reps brother, even a day off can feel like warming up a frozen engine.
>>7977196Gave it a shot to get the basic shapes down. I don't really know how to get the details right on digital.
Todays morning drawingI drew for like 4 hours then realized my pen is soooo slow and my observation is ass.I also gotta workout on 3d. But at least I enjoyed!
>>7977400you mog me desu
>>7977400how do you go for four hours with your hand cramping out?
>>7977403I rest like 10 mins between drawing. Its sad that I have light parkinsonism so I can't practice lines, making my penmanship trash.
>>7977402Thank you chad. You prob have better talent than me and you will make it. Lets go together.
>>7977390that's more or less what i'm doing now, so i will just keep at it. thankshave some squidwards i did today
>>7977409I feel you, my lines suck but but the fact you’re still working for long hours is big keep it up
>>7977164Draw the dogshit brownie goonref or the shitty epic male owner cat pose, you don't deserve good poses. Mayhaps a le epic epicgestureposerino.com?
warm ups>>7977229The lasso tool, shape brush, or whatever they're called, are incredibly underused. Try reducing the opacity to around 15% at least for me, it gives much better control.>>7977199goob job
>>7977400I wish I had talent.
>>7977387>open evo>all modern fighting games are bad>close evoSomeone said the vsav tournament was ok but i'm not going to find out
>>7977432Nice! I gotta practice to draw like you!
>>7977432I wish I could feel 3d worth shit.
What software for Android should I use? I've been using Krita since it's free but I feel like it's not designed properly for touch screen controls. I don't really wanna buy Clip Studio so I haven't tried it yet even if there's a free trial
>>7977438thanks dude, draw and post your work :)>>7977442draw, fail and draw again, sculpt a small cube and by eye alone try to get as symmetrical as possible.>>7977446for android? I think nothing beats krita sadly it lacks many things that makes krita awesome.
I will continue this tomorrow
>>7977382>sleep for an hour>feel even more tiredfrick
i CANT FUCKING DRAW. ALL I DRAW IS UGLY FUCKING SHIT. I CANT DO ANYTHING BUT FILTHY FUCKING PERMABEG GARGABE.GOD MADE ME TALENTLESS.
fun poses
>>7977459talented R*T
>>7977459what the fuck delete this sir this is the beg thread REEEEEEEEEEEE
>>7977447>for android? I think nothing beats krita sadly it lacks many things that makes krita awesome.That sucks, I got a cheap second hand Galaxy S8 Tablet and having a shit time trying to even operate Krita since so many controls seem to require keyboard input
>>7977464Sketchbook.
>>7977462that's pre-beg tho?
>>7977466FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU
>>7977466It's so fucking over
I DONT HAVE FUCKING TALENT. GOD MADE ME FUCKINGTALENTLESS.I CANT FUCKING GET BETTER.
>>7977466Yeah real, reminds me of something I did a year ago or so, and I can barely do heads let alone bodies.
>>7977476 this is pre beg/beg , ok we back to normal
>>7977479Cool, gonna keep more in the future to help prevent beg meltdowns.
>ctrl f>my name has not been mentionedLets all do better now everyone.
>>7977448Very cool
>>7977335Saboteur
>>7977319I love the idea.Might be drawing cubes after all, even though I skipped it, leaving pre/beg/ behind
i was supposed to stop doing scribbles fuck me>>7977080naaahh why did the worst one i did get in
>>7977398you need to draw a lot more actual basic shapes. back to fruits and simple objects. take something simple from your room and draw it, then after do it from memory
you know the drill, how do i improve this?
>>7977508stop using lined paperclean up your linesbe more careful not to smudge your work
not so tuff
>>7977511what else?
>>7977513apply what i just said before asking for more
>>7977514oh man i wanted to know how to make the drawing itself look more detailed or pop more but thanks
>>7977512tuff
moebius inspired piece
>>7977356yeah you can get gud by just copying stuff. but I can tell you absolutely need to get a better brush. I'd recommend a pencil type brush so you can sketch and do basic shading in one. It is also way more forgiving than the hard round, 100% opaque, heavy pressure sensitivity type brush, that one is just really unwieldy.
>>7977521wow
Bitch got gobbo tits.>>7977512tuff hatching>>7977521Very cool design anon, really pops with the colour too.
>>7977523UHM LE BRUSH IS NO LE NEVER LE PROBLEM USE LE ROUND LE BRUSH OK?!??!? IM A BIG SHITTER DRAWING FOR LE 10 YEARS STILL DOING ABHORRENT DRAWING BUT NOW I WORK FOR THE BIZZSO I KNOW WHAT IM SAYIING OK?!?! I WILL IGNORE THERES LITERAL 12 YEAR OLD THAT MOG ME BECAUSE THEY ARE FROM ASIA
>>7977196I had fun
>>7977541ARE YE IN ARE ARE YE OUT ME LAD
>>7977528I am so fucking jealous right now, you can't even imagine.
>>7977515>look more detailedby adding detail?
>>7977504blogblogblogblogpls
another one from today>>7977528jugs lol
You know I honestly feel like the average skill level of /beg/ has increased over time.There used to be a time when a large percentage of the thread was day 0 permaprebeg FWAP heads
>>7977573That's what I realized too when making the OP. A lot of the stuff wasn't hopelessly bad at all.
>>7977557its admirable how much you pulled out of boxing honestly
>>7977508pose muscleguy, fix the head and legs of musclelady,
>>7977579"Please" goes a long way, faggot
>>7977319Wow, that is cool. I will definitely try it, looks fun to do.
>>7977310Very nice.
>>7977143Hyper mogs the thread and you probably don't need to be here, but thank you for being here all the same, it's important that more skilled members stick around to provide advice
I colored this all in one day for Tada Riina's birthday, feels pretty decent for a rush job. I've never done the face in mostly shadow like this before. The streaks caused by coloring skin in alcohol markers continues to vex me, but it came out marginally better than I feared.But I just don't know how to color an open mouth! It never comes out right when I do, so I just skipped it this time.
>>7977523sure, i can try a different brush. Is the default pencil brush okay or should I spend some time looking for alternatives?
>>7977579head and legs got itcan you elaborate? particularly the legs
>>7977605>>7977605His advice- spend 3 days tracing a model in csp- make sure the background perspective is not alligned- make sure toes and fingers are flat as fuck- never draw anything interesting, make sure it's very skippable- airbrush for ""values""There you go, he can leave now
I had an interesting dud today. I wanted to push the pose a little so I deepened the bend at the torso compared to the ref and it looked waaaay off. It took pacing around a little to realize it's because I didn't change any other aspect of the pose so really all I did was liquify tool a dent in her torso. of course there's more wrong but I just found this one interesting. Educational blunder.
>>7977432Nice, but the pelvis is not that wide
>>7977614the legs arent finished and the shin angle/knee form is not human despite the leg being human like, the head doesnt even begin to look 3d, the eyes are the main culprit.
>>7977621its actually the midsection thats very slim, its not unrealistic.
nvm his shit sucks
>>7977622how do i make the head more 3D and fix the shin?
>>7977608>is the default okdepends on the program, but it's probably best to find some decent ones yourself. the whatever the highest rated basic allround brush set is, is probably your best starting point to look for and usually have all the brushes you need until you know what the fuck you are actually doing by yourself. If I had to start over again i would unironically delete all default brushes and just draw with one good brush pack for my first year.
>>7977301>>7977275>I can't study fundamentals or grind>Okay just draw what you want>I do that and I end up stagnating for an entire yearOkay, so what do I do? Nothing? I can't focus, I can't grind, I can't study. I can only ever self-motivate by externalizing any rewards and said reward is drawing what I want to draw, but then I never get any better.
>>7977633Drawing's not for you. Too bad, but them's the breaks. Give up, move on, find something else that will motivate you.
>>7977633> can't focus, I can't grind, I can't study>Okay, so what do I do? Nothing?Yes.This craft isn't for you.
>>7977635>>7977638I've been told this about every single hobby that I've ever attempted to get into. The fact that I've been drawing for an entire year is proof enough that drawing motivates me and that I need to find the right method that will work. Unless you give me that method, I'm going to keep stagnating. So give me that method, or stop responding.
>>7977640JUST DRAW
>>7977633https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_kmgixe4wk
>>7977642But then I stagnate because I can't study or grind.
wowie it's howie
>>7977640>So give me that method, or stop responding.And who do you think you are to demand this? Do some soul-searching and find it yourself, it's not someone else's problem to solve.
>>7977644wrong. you dont stagnate if you just draw. you learn slower.
>>7977647I've been drawing for an entire year and everyone here told me I didn't show any improvement.
>>7977649how many hours do you draw at a time
>>7977646Anon, what board am I on, and what thread am I in?
>>7977647Counterpoint: >>7975885>>7977651A board and thread that explicitly recommends ignoring posts like yours.
>>7977650For these faces I usually do like 10 or 15 minutes maybe for each of them or a couple of them. When I was copying, I one time went for an entire hour without distractions. I believe it was this one, but I can't remember.
>responding to the hatkidcuck when he just repeats the same shit every single timeim convinced its just a bot at this point
>>7977653>A board for drawingCheck>A thread for beginners, which I amCheck>A place where people get art adviceCheckDamn, sounds like I should be in here and getting advice then.
>>79776541 hour? you barely draw. no wonder you dont improve. try drawing for 3-4 hours for once. the stuff is allowed to be worse quality, just try to get in the flow of doing stuff. what you lack is simply drawing mileage of any sort. its also visible in your lines they seem stiff.
>>7977656You already got all the advice possible, now all you are doing is just whining about how hard it is.>>7977657>try drawing for 3-4 hours for onceWhere do you get this much time anyway? What do you cut down on? Work, sleep, chores, other hobbies?
>a yearhatkid fag doesn't even have 20 sketches and every one of his drawings has like sub 100 lines. at times he would drag out and try to reply farm for over a month with the same drawing just with like 2-3 new lines added asking whether or not that new line is correct. He is a troll that abuses your desire to prove your midwit knowledge, that's why you keep replying and trying to help or reason with him
>>7977661Gee, it's almost as if I have a neurological condition like ADHD which makes starting, motivating myself, and focusing on tasks almost impossible without some kind of external motivator.
>>7977667>>7977668ill give you drawing advice if you suck my dick can we do that
>>7977633Tell you what, if I see you actually attempt to construct an action pose with your hat kid stuff instead of wasting time agonising over the most inane Vitruvian-man-lite posturing, I’ll call you a good boy. How’s that for external validation?
>>7977670>I’ll call you a good boyShit, what do I have to do to get that as a permaprebeg nodraw?
>>7977670I literally just tried doing that yesterday and it came out awful. I don't know what to do.
plane
>>7977670>>7977675So, anon, I showed something. Are you going to give me advice or say anything at all?
hatkid is an elaborate troll just ignore until he stops posting
>>7977508>>7977622tried fixing the eyes and knee
>people are still replying to itIt just wants attention, not improvement. Stop fucking replying to it.
>>7977682>>7977685>I've been posting art here continuously for an entire year>People keep telling me that I'm capable of drawing multiple times>I've shown improvement over the year, despite everyone here saying that I've haven't >Every artist that I've ever talked to has said that I've been improvingI genuinely do not know what would convince you people that I'm not a troll.
>>7977686but how?
>>7977675You’re a good boy, but that’s just the first step. If you want to be a REALLY good boy, you need to draw a full sketch working off your construction skeleton. I don’t want to see you delete or erase any lines, I just want you to do a fully realised version of the pose working off this. Simply draw over the existing piece.>>7977674Idk, post your work and I’ll figure out what the next stage is for you to try and improve to get that sweet good boy status.
>>7977691>post your workThat right there's the catch though, I have none. Other than, like, lines and basic shapes.
Currently trying to grind fundamentals like everyone tells me to.
>>7977692SOI YOU NEED TO FUCK OFF FRIOM THIS THREAD THEN
in an unexpected turn of events, boxcylinder schizo gets an apprentice
>>7977696But I'm a beginner at drawing and looking for advice, just like that other guy?
I feel like I am finally at the point where I can make anything I want and make it look decent, but now I'm just lacking that certain magic, that something that makes you say "wow" when you look at it Is it texturing, posing, shading, all of the three? Not sure here.
>>7977706Another one of my things. These ones have been mostly just sketches so if you guys need a more complete piece to help me out I can deliver.
>>7977709nice, love the energyI'd say the same thing as >>7974052find what your goal is, put it side by side, figure out what to work on based on that
>>7977695>>7977704You do know that's not how you actually "grind fundamentals", right?
>>7977719Okay, so then tell me what I need to do.
I have both ADHD (and a heavy one) and GAD (Generalized Anxiety Disorder). Because of the nature of those conditions, the meds for them are almost opposites (or at least, ADHD meds will boost anxiety). Since GAD is nasty, taking meds for it is my choice, and my life changed since then. ADHD meds can give more anxiety, so I decided to let it run free.And why does this matter? Well, I draw. I have been studying and progressing well every day, including line exercises and warm-ups. ADHD is annoying, but it is by no means something to stop anyone from learning and improving. GAD, on the other hand, destroys my will to do anything.I have no idea what this hatkid has. But assuming he is not a troll, his ADHD excuse makes no sense. Either he has something worse, or he is retarded.Anyway, here is more skull study. You know what the external reward is? None. I push through the boredom because that is the only way to reach my goals. I want to draw anime comics, but here I'm doing boring studies of real skulls and anatomy first because it is necessary and gives me the foundation I need.Thanks for reading my blog and fuck the nodraws.
>>7977721don't draw them randomly, draw specific cylinders, arranged in specific wayshere's a fun challenge
>>7977722Front one I posted here: >>7975166
>>7976405 is this a study of this
>>7977722I have AUDHD, anxiety, and thyroid problems all of which affect my motivation to draw.
i want to draw a pose, do i make the boxes for the body first or try to wing it?
>>79777321. Line of action2. Basic construction (boxes, cylinders, beans)
>>7977727I referenced this
>>7977729Round brush god
>>7977686>People keep telling me that I'm capable of drawing multiple timesThere's a mod that wants to keep the worst schizos around. And Peril, as great as he may be, praises everyone and everything.I think it cheapens praise and dooms incapable people into years of grind into a hobby that they just don't have the brain for.
>>7977733ok what about gesture
>>7977743Goes together with LoA
>>7977739>dooms incapable people into years of grind into a hobby that they just don't have the brain forHow long do I have to draw for to know that's me?
>>7977167try to draw same length, like one or two cubes, to learn foreshortening
>>7977747so>loa and gesture>blocks>mannequin >formright?
dark souls nigga, nigga
>>7977754>>7977723
>>7977722>fuck the nodraws.based. keep on keeping on
>>7977751https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcW8gtSmD-8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H2NNpnN8a8
>>7977762thanks
>>7977759I’ll check that out, good idea I’m just doing these to warmup for now
>>7977121thanks for sharing, that was funalso krita is kinda cool
>>7977723>>7977759Very helpful. Where can I find more images like that?
>>7977257good stuff as always
adhd doesn't exist, it's just another excuse to do legal meth >>7977739That dogshit anon has no idea how to drawand he always spams. It's always the begs, it's always the people that want to have a name, it's always those that get pissy when you critique their trash. You can immediately tell quality, the ratfag as much as i hate it, he's better than anyone in the thread he posted and he doesn't even says a thing.Bad thread, Bad people, Bad clique. Going fucking isna
>>7977781I just made it in blenderit's pretty easy, you don't need to master it either: just learn to use the array modifier and how to setup the cycles renderer and you're good
>>7977790Thank you very much. I’ll give this one a shot later today
Subjects I care about are too hard to drawSubjects that are easier don't motivate meLife is pain
>>7977095Okay... Quick Challensh!>>7977080EPIC OP!!!>>7977088That's beautiful>>7977091>>7977093Me??? uuhhh I dunno, that style is "deceivingly" sophisticated. Those faces are realistic and beautiful, the body types are a rare mix of classic american comics, 90s "wildcats" style, and 50s60s vintage "bombshell" "Jessica Rabbit" style. It shouldn't be that hard to replicate if you have a clear idea of what you want to portray. First thing to look out for, should be, "pulp" comic style.>>7977094m..m..moai anon?..>>7977106Cool!>>7977114Careful with that heat wave Cyclops! Stay hydrated!>>7977192Fucking AWESOME!>>7977200That's cool as fuck!I ran out of (You)s T--T...
>>7977550You'll get your gobbo bar maid one day anon, I believe in you. Gambate!
>>7977660>Where do you get this much time anyway? What do you cut down on? Work, sleep, chores, other hobbies?I'm not him but. >>7977143 was 5 hours straight, I didn't do the dishes after lunch, I didn't play videogames with my friends, I didn't watch the world cup. I sat and drew. Yeah you have to choose what to spend limited time on, and some things just have to be cut.
>>7977219>>imagine not having funfun is not real, it's a psyop
>>7977660>try drawing for 3-4 hours for once>Where do you get this much time anyway? What do you cut down on? Work, sleep, chores, other hobbies?>>7977832Or you can do like perilfag making low effort slop that takes "him" only 30 minutes and still gets his daily fix of circlejerk dopamine inside the crab bucket (/beg/)
>>7977722Not only does ADHD affect people differently, this completely ignores everything bad that ADHD does to affect motivation.I have autism, ADHD and a learning disability. My problem is that I cannot motivate myself to do anything even on meds and I've been medicated for both anxiety and ADHD for my entire life. My ADHD is so severe that I can't self motivate. That's the problem you're ignoring. Currently I'm on anti anxiety meds and still nothing. In fact they only kill my motivation.
If I didn't have autism, anxiety, a small dick, ADHD, chronic gooner syndrome, videogameitis, a blackedraw subscription, an active flamewar in multiple /v/ threads, and a gay dad I could draw my waifu hat kid or something
>>7977836I see artists fall into two modes: the ones that doodle, experiment and iterate quickly not getting too hung up on any particular piece, and the ones that can spend many hours on a single piece until it perfectly matches their vision (to the best of their current ability)as someone that tends to the second, I think being able to switch modes can be helpful, each one has pros and cons
I seriously don't know what to do to fix my problems with drawing and I've been trying for a year.
>>7977845Did you try just drawing?
I've been studying Loomis too and I don't feel like I understand jack shit.
Fill for the OC thread. Lips and noses feel a lot easier to paint than draw.
any criticism is greatly
>>7977847Yes and apparently I got nowhere in a year.
>>7977847I've even been studying Loomis>>7977848
>>7977684do I begin shading?
>>7977835>fun is not real, it's a psyopThis but unironically>>7977842>>7977840ADHD is not real you just want to take legal meth.
june is overhere's the stuff I drew this month
>>7977857>ADHD is not real you just want to take legal meth.True, wish we'd get some begs with real problems. Like having screws fused into your spine causing you discomfort followed by pain 24/7 even while sitting down.
>>7977857It's literally the most well documented and diagnosable mental illness in history. You can get a brain scan or test and it will determine it with nearly 100% accuracy.
>>7977867rrrriiiiiiiiight
How do I overcome my anxiety and try grinding then?
"Just draw" doesn't work with me when I've been trying for a year and nothing has changed.
>>7977876pyw
>>7977877I just did here>>7977848>>7977675>>7977654>>7977649
Ok. Nothing works. Stop derailing the thread and go use your own general >>7955215No one here is a god to gift you skill without effort, and as you said multiple times, you have dozens of health conditions that block your motivation.>DO NOT REPLY to crabs, nodraws, over-analyzing schizos, retards that whine about how hard drawing is or talent debates and instead focus on posted works!Let's respect our general guidelines anons.
>>7977876This is cute >>7977654So it works. Just draw.
>>7977857>>fun is not real, it's a psyop>This but unironicallySo how are you supposed to have fun when drawing? And if you're not, how do you motivate yourself to draw instead of doing the fun stuff?
>>7977112God i suck at this. Still need to finish it. This took me hours and its still very rough
>>7977908this is pretty decent anon, keep it up you got this shit
>>7977908Just grind heads, the face is the most important part of the drawing so getting better at heads had an immediate outsized impact on how good your art looks
>everyone is copying the degenerate third worlder dogshit reference.This is why you deserve the absolute state of the site and the thread. >>7977898I like drawing cause i want to be good at drawing, i don't need external motivation, having fun is for children. Love anatomy, love drawing, hate artists , hate zoomers. You are just ngmi, you can't force yourself to be motivated, you can postpone the burnout but you will eventually give up even if you take breaks
One thing I don’t understand about begs is why they don’t abuse the warp tool more. Even if you can’t draw it right the first, second, or third time, you can just warp and drag until it’s right. Whole point of the digital medium.
>>7977884It's just a copy. I didn't make that myself. I can't make anything for myself.
Berserk study
>>7977916They probably dont even know it exists
After work Milia
>>7977916i've only seen women use it, women are not good at drawing so it makes sense.
>>7977916If you use it you stay beg
>>7977915>you can postpone the burnout but you will eventually give upSo fucking true and I wish it wasn't. There's still hope I'll make it work somehow.
>>7977736ah I figured it was some image by ulrik
>>7977882I stopped because nobody was responding in that thread anymore now that the bump limit has been reached.
Shitty warm up sketch, didn’t get to draw much yesterday or today because of work which I’m feeling a bit bad about
>>7977934Neither are you. Maybe you should use it.
Still trying cylinder practice.
>Spent like 5 months telling myself if I just draw people over and over I'll eventually git gud>Finally realized that's retarded and started over with the fundiesAt least I'm learning I suppose. I know the site says not to grind these but I think I might benefit from doing all the homework so far a few more times. Maybe I'll take a break and crack open Loomis again.>>7977860Is that savage arknights?
>>7977955>>7977956The funschizo mind virus is spreading rapidly...
>>7977957Listen man, I was trying to skip basically any actual learning so I had to go back to basics. I was basically just copying whatever I referenced.
>>7977112if you find drawing 'fun' you're either a talentnigger who draws well with no effort, or a permabeg who will forever stagnate>>7977908you don't got this shit but it's not what matters. also worst girl, do chie pivot>>7977931you handle no size pressure so much better than me. also sex with flat butt
>>7977944art
>>7977865hard to believe this is all from the same guy.
currently working on this>>7977928nice one! some times I listen to that video edit with the stratospheric long sword and guts theme
>>7977986Thanks man and likewise. I really like the pose it's very cute
>Go to pinterest>Picture modified with AI>Picture modified with AI>Picture modified with AI>Picture modified with AIjfc how horrifying, more like jeeterest
WHERE THE FUCK ARE MY FUCKING (YOU)S
>>7978029>>7978029>>7978029>>7978029>>7978029
>mfw my work gets lost in the sea of hatkidplease feed me (you)s I need validation
>>7978029(you) can watch (me) suck at drawing circles.>>7978039I like it, she looks very angry to me and i dunno why.
>>7978039>>7978039 >>7978046>>7978032 >>7978046[dogshit mediocre goon drawing,jpg]
>>7978046thank you for the (you) kind sirI should draw more circles too.>she looks very angry to meI usually just do the generic cute anime faces but I actively consulted Scott McCloud on this one.
>>7978055>>7978049>>7978047[dogshit mediocre goon drawing.jpg][unintelligible babble.txt]
I seriously keep feeling like no matter how hard I try to understand this, I simply can't.
>>7978055I think this is the first time I've actually seen a page from this book that WASN'T just the "maybe what I have to say will matter more" part. But neato, I'll have to save this for when I start making faces with actual detail.
>>7978055faint hope bros? ww@?
>>7978062it's time
>>7977999now that's a nice thread challenge. meaning, it was too hard for me so I gave up. better leave this one for the gifted
>>7978068That drawing was admittedly from before I started focusing on fundies again forced myself to stop chicken scratching, but I felt like posting something other than my drawabox homework. Gonna hold onto this tho.
>>7978055For me, it's desperation.
>>7977605Yeah it's a good question and I do avoid spending too much time here, that isn't anything particularly good though. Biggest problem for me is finishing works that I start. Every person who posts something that is actually finished is well ahead of me.>- make sure the background perspective is not alligned>- make sure toes and fingers are flat as fuck>- never draw anything interesting, make sure it's very skippableAll of this is true as well.Though no CSP, I could really use those 3d models sometimes.
>>7978055you ATE it??? >:O
>>7978062I first read Making Comics in my high school library, it's legitimately one of my favorite books
pen and ink style drawing
>>7978076I've wanted to get more art-focused literature so it's definitely on the to-read list.
>>7978059Anyone?
Got a diaplay tablet to start drawing and have been doing a few different types of images before I start applying myself so that I can have pics to look back on and compare my progress with, but I have run in to two questions.The first is what's the best place for non-AI garbage imagery because apparently putting "PHOTOGRAPH" into Google doesn't mean shit and I'm not about to use jeet slop as my fucking references.The second is whether or not using a tablet for drawing execises and grinding and learning the fundamentals is going to hurt my progress somehow, compared to pencil and paper.Thanks for any advice you lads have.
highly rushed bath slop >>7978089taking your own photos
>>7978089I've made a lot of progress from pencil/pen and paper. Not having the undo button helps with line confidence.
>>7978108See that was one thing I considered by I'm more than capable of just not using digital features when I'm working on those sort of "first stroke" or "stroke correction" type of skills. I'm more just wondering if there's anything I'm not considering that's lost when doing digital over physical.
>>7978103i like it. the gun could use some work. draw some flintlock mechanisms for practice.
>Just drawThat doesn't work as advice for me. There were even times where I would go for an entire month without drawing anything. That's the problem. I cannot motivate myself. I need something constantly making sure I do something, and I can't figure out how to motivate myself to improve, grind, study, etc.I cannot do it. I don't know what else to tell people.
>>7978059Loomis
>>7978079I love itThe expression is very alive
>>7978114that would be funif I had the money, I'd buy a flintlock and a wheellock and all sorts of other old firearm mechanisms, I think they are really cool and fascinating
>>7978089The /ref/ thread has had some landscape packs posted before, in addition to tons of other stuff, you could try searching the archive on warosu. Most of the ref packs posted there come from artstation, I think
>>7978117I've looked at Loomis like 50 times, and each time I keep getting lost around the body construction part. I seriously cannot understand it. And every time I attempt to draw these figures, it never looks right.
>>7978128Move on to a different set of figures then.
>>7978138All of them are like this for me. That's the problem.
More formal perspective shenanigans. This time 2pt, looking straight down. Kinda fun to do.
Seriously, I don't know what the fuck I'm doing.
Another sketchbook done
>>7978177I'm confused as to what this is supposed to be.
>>7978159Compare the hand on the right and its relation to the hip compared to reference.If you cannot even see, how could you hope to draw?
>>7977962Morpho books are such Kino. One of the few actually good books worth reading.
>>7978174lmao at the chibi skulls
>>7978178You know exactly what it is. You're not fooling anyone.
>>7978190???
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
I AM FUCKING PERMABEG
>>7978208Well shit, You gotta fuck Talent fags to get Talent aids
>>7978208Now and forever!
>>7978208Welcome to the club. Fuck the talented ratniggers LARPing as begs in these threads
>see something>"that looks simple enough, I could do that">i cant do that
>>7978215Every time.
I CANT FUCKING DRAW
dandan...
>>7978215That's what got me into drawing, the sheer cognitive dissonance around thinking you can illustrate something "simple" but can't. It's like unlocking a third eye or a higher level of perception.
>>7978179Yeah that's my problem. My brain wants me to finish things as fast as possible and not take my time and I can't make that stop no matter how hard I try.
can anyone give me still life references that are good for early begs
>>7978226
>>7978228like, objects, not your jerk off folder
>>7978231thats an object sweatie
>>7978228AI slop
>>7977850your brush is too big, and it feels like you're fighting the canvas more than you're drawing. Clamp the values to find the shapes, and try to see through the forms it doesn't have to be perfect. Start with a rough sketch first, and don't be afraid to erase. If it were me, I'd make different versions of the image to explore shapes that read as 3d while still experimenting. Try using a 1px brush and the lasso tool for shading and blocking in values. Good job keep going.>>7977930Really cool! The eye is very catching, but it doesn't quite fit with the nose, and the mouth looks a bit off to me. Still, I really like it. Great job!>>7977944With a bit more work on the values and color, this could easily be one of the top five works of 2026. Amazing work.>>7978226draw an apple
>>7978237forgot the image>>7977607soul>But I just don't know how to color an open mouth! It never comes out right when I do, so I just skipped it this time.good decision it reads better that way>>7977619keep going
>>7977558i dont really upload bbw art but i can give you a cubari folder with my best bbw art if youd like that
>>7977459more fun
>>7978237thank you very much for the feedbacki was trying to use a large brush originally because i saw when someone else did the 2/3+ value studies they recommended try using a large brush, but eventually i would put the size down for the "line art sketch" part of the shapesplease what do you mean by "clamp the values"
I have appeal and that's all that matters
>>7977112
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>>7978246>i was trying to use a large brush originally...and they're not wrong, brushwork is really important. But that's a whole different subject, so I suggested focusing on what's more important first, which is shapes.>what do you mean by "clamp the values"Basically, limit the value range. You're already doing that with this exercise, but what I meant is to use a filter because, at first, it's hard to find the shapes on your own. You can use a threshold filter for this.>>7978245>>7978249>>7978266pretty great job!
>>7978267C'mon nigga everyone can draw, it's impossible you can't draw
