Apologies if this gets asked a lot.I've always liked art, but I never seriously tried learning it. I doodled a lot as a kid, stopped in my early teens, and now I'm 25 and want to give it a proper shot. I'd like to eventually make work that's on the level of the artists who inspired me.One thing that's always held me back is that I've never had much confidence in my own ability. I also don't really consider myself a particularly intelligent person, so I've always wondered whether that's something that could hold me back when it comes to learning art, or if it's mostly a matter of consistent practice.Right now I struggle with pretty much every fundamental: shapes, perspective, anatomy, etc. I also feel like I can't draw anything convincingly unless I'm directly copying a reference. If I try to draw from memory or come up with a pose on my own, it usually looks stiff or just wrong.Is that just a normal part of being a beginner, or does it suggest I'm lacking creativity or visual imagination? I'd appreciate any advice from people who started later or went through the same thing.
>>7982804Epstein Rape Niggers
of coursewhat this board calls 'asian genes' or 'talent' is just higher general intelligence combined with diligence and attention to detail
>>7982804shan't readjust draw, you dumb nigger
>>7982804I used to work with special needs children (not the down syndrome kids, but the autistic/ADHD/learning disability/dyslexic/communication disorder/low IQ ones). ANYONE can learn how to draw and get better at it, even if you're handicapped. IQ isn't what prevents people from learning how to draw (unless you're incredibly disabled or mentally retarded), what prevents people from learning how to draw are emotional hangups, having a negative mindset, and not spending enough time doing it. Many of the kids I worked with were not the sharpest tools in the shed. But they got better at drawing because they were consistent with it and didn't go "I can't do this" or "I'm not gifted" or "this is too hard".This is all you need to do when starting out:>start doing continuous line drawing>grind lines for a week, then grind shapes for another week: when you're comfortable with drawing the basics, move on to studying forms for about two weeks>do blind contours of household objects>if you have a pet or if you live with someone else, do gesture drawings of them>spend lots of time observing your subjectsthen you move on to using photo references:>do blind contours and gesture studies of your subject>grab references: draw them upside down, meaningfully trace them, do negative space drawings, break them down into shapes and forms>study the skeleton/inside parts>give yourself a day to rest>draw from memory, then do it again with references, then compare the results>draw from memory again>move on to a connected subjectIf you're really concerned with intelligence/creativity/visual imagination, cut out sugar and trash food from your diet ASAP. Start exercising. Eat more fruits and veggies. Get into the habit of eating seaweed and berries/citrus fruits. Make sure you're getting enough water and proper nutrients/vitamins/minerals. Start meditating. Watch lots of movies and read all sorts of comics and books.
>>7982804desu
>>7982804i wouldn't think of it as requiring intelligence, as much as requiring good ability to focus. Otherwise you just wing it and get a feel for it.
>>7982840don't make him do boring stuff llike that. just draw cute girls or whatever
>>7982847He doesn't have to do just "the boring stuff". It should be half of his time spent drawing. The other half is for drawing cute girls, anon
You big brained anons aren’t going to like this, but in my experience Dali was right: overly intelligent people make shit artists. If your IQ is above 125 you’ll most likely get bogged down with trying to nail the fundamentals and will struggle with making cohesive art.
>>7982850>twf 124 IQ king brainletnothin personnel, nerds
>>7982804Drawing requires thinking. It's not outside the reach of most, it's just more than people are willing to exert.
>>7982848you can literally just do what you love all the time
>>7982873I have to spend 14 hours a day at the oil rig so that's not true
>13 posts>question thread>no drawings postedtime to hide this thread
>>7982874lucky guy, bet you're making bank
>>7982804Wew, you starting at the same age as I am, my art is still shitty but ppl like it enough to commission me, so I guess I'm doing something right, just make the habit of drawing something everyday, even if it's just copying it, or doing gestures, that's half the battle
>>7982804Going to answer as a /beg/ who still sucks ass but is improving. For the most part, I feel like if you're smart enough to use a computer, you're smart enough to figure out art.>One thing that's always held me back is that I've never had much confidence in my own ability. I also don't really consider myself a particularly intelligent person, so I've always wondered whether that's something that could hold me back when it comes to learning art, or if it's mostly a matter of consistent practice.Because you don't have practice. Can you drive a car, ride a bike, or use any sort of tools IRL? Even something as simple as playing video games with a controller. I'm willing to bet you were far clumsier and less confident with those than you are now, but you got better as time went on. I think the hardest thing for people like you and me to learn is the simple fact that we're going to suck at this and we're going to suck for a WHILE.>Right now I struggle with pretty much every fundamental: shapes, perspective, anatomy, etc. I also feel like I can't draw anything convincingly unless I'm directly copying a reference. If I try to draw from memory or come up with a pose on my own, it usually looks stiff or just wrong.I do as well, I've found what works best for me is to try to draw at least 30 minutes a day when I can. Do a mixture of doodles of the things you want and lessons from the stuff everyone else always recommends like drawabox and loomis. I've found what killed art for me is I went too hard into "just draw LMAO" and never learned anything, or grinded too hard on learning the fundies and removed the fun from the equation. Read a few pages of a book or do a few drawabox lessons, then draw something, literally anything you want and try to ask yourself "What can I apply from what I learned today to this drawing?"It'll be dogshit, but all that matters is being less dogshit than last time. Also try filling picrel out every once in a while.
>>7983834>Because you don't have practiceNeed more practice: >>7983843
>>7983834>I feel like if you're smart enough to use a computer, you're smart enough to figure out artFalse. If you don't have spatial intelligence, memory recall, dexterity, and all the related things, hardly you can do anything, even the simple things.Being smart with technology is unrelated.
>>7982840true. im ~160 and my art is trash.
>>7982804Your post is well-written, and if you wrote it on your own you are not an idiot (in the clinical sense of the term).If you can also read well, you are at an advantage compared to the many art students who shun books with text, because a lot of older art instruction books (these are the best ones) are text-heavy and filled with great advice and observations.You struggle with drawing from imagination? So do many artists coming out of ateliers and academies who can draw beautifully from models and reference (see: Proko).Seeing accurately is a skill that can be developed with practice.Inventing figures is a different skill, one that entails several branches of knowledge: anatomy (the relevant parts), motion, balance, form, etc.I think you can become competent, at least. Whether or not you WILL is another matter, and that's for you to decide.
>>7984101What test did you take and how old were you
Intelligence is expressed through planning. And consideration. Realize that making worthwhile art requires stages and steps towards the final project. Don't know what to draw? Try my Creativity Grind:https://youtu.be/1OSWR7xiQLk?is=r9kGCaVqHKC0GzKVRepeat until you get something you are interested in drawing again. Then draw it again, not to make a masterpiece, but to get a feeling for your subject. Here you are doing designing, and such stuff should be treated like the scrap paper you do the calculations on before presenting the mathematical formulas in neat lines. People will criticize these works, not understanding that what they are seeing is part of the process and not the results of the process.
