If you are a /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.DO NOT REPLY to crabs, nodraws, over-analyzing schizos, retards that whine about how hard drawing is or talent debates and instead focus on posted works!>Post Your Work>STICKY:New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0QHardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?viewHardcore (working link): https://hackmd.io/@ArtStudies/rJxNW6aonHardcore (wayback archive):https://hackmd.io/@0uRfwdEoRDiHFz9wibb5sA/ry8nyys6-lCompleted(short):https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jUeG8UTwDAK8WGC4f79IlBGIAGVipfHvo48RF5Xgxyc (sus discord server don't join)Completed: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vm4IJpq0Mbvb-Krl5_mJ_m6TsC_qjsaN/vieww/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/>WHERE to get study materials>>>/ic/artbook>>>/ic/video>Want to practice figures?quickposes.comcharacterdesigns.comlovelifedrawing.composemy.artline-of-action.com>best art teachersGlenn VilppuMichael HamptonSteve HustonBrent EvistonMarco BucciAndrew LoomisGeorge BridgmanHikaru HayashiHide Sensei>best art booksKeys To DrawingDrawing With the Right Side of the BrainHow To Draw Comics the Marvel WayThe Art and Science of DrawingFramed PerspectiveFigure Drawing For All It's WorthThe Complete Guide to Drawing From LifePrevious thread: >>7980472
>>7982816redid the lines
Reposting I don't give a fuck
>6 years of drawing.No results.
>>7983843Idk I think you are pretty good when you are drawing real subjects
Does my box body foreshortening rook correct? Or rook rike broken fuck, porished turd?
1-3 painting study and painting practice4-6 figure drawing and anatomy study7-9 thumbnails and compositions 0 gather refs and flesh out more characters for my own work
Thread challenge
>>7983851ew, not drawing your fetish dude
>>7983850>Worldbuilding My condolences
>>7983854it has to be done
>>7983846Is it meant to be flopped over a couch or something?
>>7983838My goal in art is to make it into the thread pic one day
>>7983838Really bad choices for OP this time. It just can't be the same person who made it. I hope they delete it and make a new one.
>>7983838
>>7983850Could you please share the image you're studying? I remember that piece and I quite liked it but for the life of me I cannot find it now
I'm having fun with my pencil!
>>7983837i've been looking up to him lately
how do i into valuesworking on something for a course that's supposed to be aiming for a pencil rendering style but this feels more like paintingnot sure how i should be doing the hair and facial hair toothis is the ref i'm using as a basehttps://photos.smugmug.com/2007/070728/i-8mmmqXH/0/Mz3PjwsfWgV4MrdGFd2BJtCh7vG54zdxNP6bnWgNd/O/070728_WashCo_389.jpg
gave up on the hands, settled for covering them w the sleeves, passable?
>>7983877head is too big and she looks like a man
>>7983887https://www.artstation.com/artwork/g8kAWG
>>7983913>very sick looking knight>ruined by generic anime girl
>>7983916>not appreciating the dynamic contrastbaka, this piece is great
>>7983918i dont like anime much but i dont hate it
>>7983913she's got big manly farmer hands
anyone got any good resources on worldbuilding/character designing? I searched a bit on youtube but I found nothing but dogshitright now im just scourging the net for refs I like
>>7983913I actually think this rules and is an awesome drawing, anime girl included. Fuck what the other guy said basically.
>>7983924damn, i can have an opinion
>>7983923most of the stuff I've found related to that is kinda uselessI think it boils down to taste, creating ref boards to nail down the vision, and a lot of iteration
>>79839271. yes you can have an opinion, and I'm glad you contributed to the thread despite our disagreement.2. fuck you
>>7983929fuck, that is what I feared. you basically have to spend a lot of time and thinking fleshing out your world and characters
>>7983841I saved this as WHERE_I_NEED_TO_BE_IN_A_YEAR.jpgJesus christ
>>7983871Don't hate bro. I spent an embarrassingly long time on my drawing
Thread challenge (but with a cute girl)
>>7983947my main gripe is that he reused the girl with a fist up and the title is harder to read
>>7983871>>7983955cry about it
>>7983922>>7983912This nigga hating but he ain't posting his work
>>7983877>>7983913These two pieces mog everyone here and all they're getting is hate kek.Shows how spiteful begs really are lmao
>>7983963i didn't hate i just said i dont like the anime pa
enough with the shitty thread "challenges"
>>7983965Anime is just the default style now, why bother hating it? Why waste time fighting a losing battle?
>>7983969bad ones get ignored, just post a good one
>>7983838>clique usual made it into the opjust stop making these threads, its just a discord circle jerk at this point
>>7983970i already said i dont hate it just dont like itits not about winning shit it's just my opinion
Oh yeah well fuck you your art sucks anyway asshole
>>7983979Maybe you should draw something if you want to be in the next op
>>7983982didnt even say the piece or art style to be bad just that the anime girl being lame, what's wrong with that?
>>7983982Who are you talking to schizo
How do you limit yourself to just three projects at a time?
fig and color study. thought I'd do a couple but this one took me the whole daylike some anons suggested I made my brush less thick, lowered it to 2px, so the linework looks worse than how I normally do things, obviously. so much room for detail though right!!>>7983898you don't do perssure opacity right? looks like you just set brush opacity to 50 or something
>>7983990when cell shading think more about shape design and grouping shadows together in bigger shapesas a rule of thumb try to avoid small 'islands' of shadow, always be on the lookout for opportunities to merge them
>>7983990good, the path towards improvement starts with a worse drawing
>>7983989Frankly you should just limit yourself to one at a time. If you try to juggle multiple projects as a /beg/ it’ll be too tempting to bounce around when it gets too hard and you won’t grow.
>>7983997sad cope. making worse drawings is the last thing I'd be aiming for after 10 years at it
>>7984005and that's the problempeople who improve arent afraid of making bad drawings have you been going 10 years afraid to screw up even once? Thats like a programmer being afraid of his code not compiling
>>7983990Yeah for both size and opacity. I use 0.40 for the lineart and 0.10~0.20 for the shading
>>7984006heh, I've always been making bad drawings lifecoachanon
Sketch from photo
>>7983987Fuck you shitting bitch
i lost patience
>>7984023Fuck you nigger Fucksleeve
>>7984025Pretty good for “lost patience”!
>>7983842How do I improve on this?
>>7984032I don't help reposters.
>>7984033Surely you'll forgive me for posting literal seconds before the new thread
>>7984025Cute as hell
>>7984027I’m leaving you people are assholes this board sucks
>>7983912You probably only jerk off to asian bitches kek
>just draw broLmao. K.
>>7983979One guy had his drawings showcased TWICE in the same imageFucking kek at this OP
>>7984047cry about iti only pick drawings I likemaybe you should practice more if you want to get into the op image
>>7984025Could you post your ref by itself please? Nice work btw.
>>7984051>waits until 1000 replies and page 9 before making a thread>it's always the same 5 people in the OPYou suck at making threads my dude.
>>7983951
>>7983842cute dragon girl
>>7984056PYT
>>7984056Only the clique is allowed. No /beg/s allowed either, fuck /beg/s. And don't even think about making another thread when this one hits bump limit or i will report you like the bitch i am.
>>7984072How do I get into the clique? I recently joined Fluxer, do they have a server?
>>7984074there is no discord clique its just the regulars of beg for the most partbut here is the unofficial begcord https://discord.gg/vkabpS4Mxd
>>7984074Discord and develop a style that makes the holes and trannies look your way. Also try gaining access when you have more...erm.. followers on social media cause We don't like anonymous posters be as much of a flagrant little bitch as you can. Style =/ Skill. As perchance seen in the op
>>7984078>there is no discord clique> its just the regulars of begretard
>>7984052>>7983270
>>7984082what i meant is there is no discord group circlejerking eachother idk who is doing the ops but they are clearly biased towards certain artists here
>>7984088>what i meant is there is no discord group circlejerking eachother>but they are clearly biased towards certain artists here
>>7984078Not discord. Fluxer.
Faces, can't render for shit>>7984100Try taking little breaks in between?
>>7984004How do I decide which ones to delete?
still figuring out digital drawing(not that im incredible at trad but ykwim)
>>7984102never heard of that
>>7983999>he painted the rest of the fucking owlVery nice, I really like the colors.
>>7984119It more popular than Stoat.
>>7983842improve proportions, anatomy and expressing form with shadowproportions = legs too long, torso too long, check head canonanatomy = defining knees clearly, feet are ugly, shoulders too bigform with shadow = learn all the different shadow types and apply them (picrel)
>>7984138draw her getting cumflated by a futa.
>>7981908>Lizardrape for 4I started in February 2025
>>7984107I mean, you don’t have to literally delete anything obviously. Just pick the project that gets you the most motivated and commit to it until it’s done. Then you can pick the other ones back up
No one ever answers me or gives me crit :[
>>7984151Is there an expanded list? This lacks many begs and ints that I know
>>7984159link to your drawing I'll give you some
>>7984159ask then cutie patootie
>>7984170No, you guys are bullies,
>>7984172nyot me, i tried to give crits to some guy last thread
>>7984164>>7983949
My laptop is falling apart and I need a replacement for drawing, should I go for a new laptop or maybe an ipad? Any recs? I’m kind of leaning towards laptop since I like my cintiq tablet.
>>7983842very cute doragon but your lineweight logic is a bit inconsistent. like you try to do a thick outline for the silhouette but skip certain areas like some of the hair and hands. or you have the toenails with really bold dark redrawn when the original more greyish sketch lines would have made more sense. Generally you wanna ease up with the thick lines inside the main silhouette.>>7983849moai
>>7983841This is entirely subjective so feel free to disregard but I actually really like the previous version with the messy linework.I think it adds a certain dynamic quality to the drawing and it also gives the effect of more varied line weight. I do understand why you would want cleaner lines though if you are going for the more polished look.Good job with the colors and shading.
Haven't drawn anything since April, how fucked am I since I'm a procrastinating /beg/?
>>7984185not that fucked, just start drawing with purpose and work up to long sessions, it takes about a week or two to get back into the groove and retrain the muscles. you got this anon.
>>7983842cute dragon whore>>7984032>How do I improve on this?I think that largely depends on the style you are trying to achieve. The drawing is decent on its own and any advice would need to take into account the stylistic direction that you want to move towards. Do you have any examples of what you want your art to look like?
>>7984177>>7984159The arm looks weird to me. It looks flat. It's also either too short or or the perspective isn't conveyed enough.Take this with a grain of salt I'm a beg myself.
>>7983851Disgusting!... Quick challenge but I fucked up this one, I chose to do an icon sculpture type of figure with the mirror tool, but I should have try a naturalistic style instead. It sucks. specially her hand+arm.>>7983569>ArtTHANK YOU!!!! I should do a few more of her>>7983859Nice scribbles!>>7983877That red dress is fucking amazing a true delight. A great example of the use of warm lower values tones of the same color instead of using black when doing shadows.>>7983990Doing your best work rn appealgod!>>7983999BEST IN THREAD ! CHECKED>>7984018I love these doodles so much>>7984061Lovely piece>>7984066Perfect little design piece!>>7984046I keep saving these, there's always some hot special detail in your figures that I like so much
Can I get a crumb of feedback for this?: >>7984061Is it completely unappealing? My drawings rarely get attention.
>>7984202>Is it completely unappealing?No, but it is boring.
>>7984202Talented people only gets hate and indifference here. It's a trolling board more than anything else. Better use this place to have fun, otherwise you will get frustrated here.
>>7984193That wasn’t me, idk why that anon tagged a post that wasn’t mine.
>>7984202i like it the face is cute
>>7984201I like her face and pose she's doing, it's a good idea.The first issue I noticed are the boobs. They look weird, the surface they attach to on the torso looks too small. She also has no pectoral muscles.Her protruding stomach makes it look like she's suffering from kwashiorkor. (pic related)I think the cape should have more folds around the boob and its huge nipple.The perspective on her right arm looks iffy.Her thighs look too thick.I like your style, the drawing would be appealing if the anatomy was more conventional.I appreciate the feedback you give to everyone ITT.
Bruh
Just draw for "fun"
>>7984217bro, you'll never change the way peril drawshe likes his disgusting barrel stomachs, leather skin and bolt-on tits
>>7984219looking good, chief keep it up
Why did CylinderInBox anon downgrade to circles in squares?
>>7984213Thanks. I like your drawing too.
>>7984217>>7984220oops I just noticed this anon was using the roman with the beer belly as a refthis makes a little more sense
>>7983990annuda. didn't want to spend the second half of the day on this one>>7984201can I unsubscribe from your massreplies
Can right wing chuds learn how to make art?
>>7984243billions must draw
>>7984243No. Creativity is an inherently liberal trait.
>>7984241bulge too small
>>7984246I think that years of leftist videogame industry have proven enough
>>7984202It's cute but simple. Not much to say that you don't already know. Work on hands and hair. Also try pushing yourself with different shading or rendering techniques and use more interesting brushes.
>>7984207I enjoy talent posts. I just don't always comment.
>>7983851wtf where did you get this photo of me?
>>79842023 niggas
>>7984261They is beautiful
>>7984246I used to think this way, but I'm beginning to think things are flipping. Modern leftism has become uniform and orthodox. It seems there is an expectation that leftist art be as ugly as possible. There's a lot of talented people reviving traditional art, especially with the introduction of AI.
>>7984202i like your stuff, don't get discouraged because of the lack of yous
>>7984246To the extent that they even still have meaning, "left" and "right" have kind of flipped in a lot of ways. "Leftists" now are people with high disgust reactions, high need for morality and order, concerned with social cohesion, etc. "Rightists" might still be racist, but in every other way they're a lot more similar to the "leftists" from 50-60 years ago in terms of being independently minded, questioning authority, etc. You need to be willing to question authority in order to be racist and sexist these days, because anti-racism and anti-sexism just ARE the political orthodoxy.All that being said, artistic creativity can come from either leftists or rightists.
crit, please
>>7984217Thanks for the feedback anon! Yeah, I used that ref for the belly, lol. But I have a thing for the "distended " bellies, long torsos and thick thighs, anyways.. I have fun with my grotesque figures, sometimes I really like what it comes out xDI did a quick re-draw just for you, I like this one better, but it is just "competent art". It is not "special, bizarre, weird and fun".>>7984213SAVED!>>7984219Gd bless you anon!>>7984241>can I unsubscribe from your massrepliesNEVER. I LIKE YOUR SHIT TOO MUCH>>7984182Artistic as fuck!>>7984103Beautiful work>>7984100Traditional media drains your energy much more than digital media. You do beautiful art, and you do it trad, that takes a toll on your energy, mood and stamina. Eventually you will change to digital tools and your art will explode in quality and quantity.>>7984025AMAZING DRESS!>>7983889I missed this one! This is my thread's favorite!>>7983850Composition God!!!
>>7984288Take this with a grain of salt because I'm beg. Hands look a little too thin.Thighs look too big in relation to her body.I'm not 100% sure but it feels her upper body isn't centered correctly in relation to her legs?Her jacket looks too tight.I like how you drew her face in the bigger version.
>>7984298thanks, i can see what you mean about the jacket and thighs
>>7983877Artbeating everyone for the past 5 threads
>>7984159 (you)>>7984164 (you)>>7984170 (you)>>7984193 (you)>>7984210 (you)all me btw
>>7984295
>>7984301this is not a competition
>>7984303So goodbased coomer god
Don't like how this one turned out but whatever, at least it's done.
>>7984307peril sisters, don't look...
>>7984295Big improvement, nice work. The boobs would have more appeal if their shape was "retrousse" (see pic), with the nipples pointing up, and the upper area was smooth instead of a hard angle against her pectorals. The latter makes her look like she has bolt-ons rather than soft naturals.
>>7984312too late... ToT
>>7984303why are u larping as me
>>7984319Why are YOU larping as ME?
>>7984298is it better?
>>7984321=_=
>>7984319 (me)it's fun
>>7984307
>>7984325yeah, a lot
>>7984325What brush? G-Pen?. I'm around your level so don't expect a miracle critique
>>7984303I fucking hate ugly bastard porn now since I can't self insert after losing weight that effectively
>>7984325>>7984332also I feel like the jacket on her left arm around the elbow could use a crease to show that the fabric bends
>>7984334yep, OG G-Pen
>>7984338good catch!
>>7984335I self insert as a cuck watching
>>7983907Anyone? do I need to force myself to draw the hands or what
>>7984344i think covering them works
>>7984343>t.
>>7983907i want to see eyebrows. this is unsettling
>>7984137Every character I draw is a 30 year old consenting adult
>>7984346i think i can pass for d10 under certain lightings
>>7984345thx>>7984347she canonically has none, theyve all been plucked out
>>7983907Is she from Petscop or something
>>7984339There you go, that should be the correct or around the correct construction, the eyes are still wrong, let me fix it
>>7983851This is literally AI. Some faggot tried passing an AI image as reference in the last thread too.Who keeps doing this?
>>7984351yes, care
>>7984347
>>7984355good catch, he also doesn't have armpit hair. that shouldn't be possible, given his appearance
>>7984335just enjoy the rape
>>7984335>One less disgusting fat blight on this earthBased
>>7984359cursed.... o_o
>>7984362Zamn. Now we’re talkin’
Little fig. Could someone link a good resource for construction? I've been going off of intuition and I want to get better at making figs from imagination.Sidenote: I see why people use colored brushes, but i think I'll go back to using black.>>7984311You are getting better. Have you ever thought about drawing anything other than muscle girls? Its good to diversify (not that I can say that).
>>7984365=w= !
>>7984346thanks
Still working on my VN about twelve identical sisters. It's been slow going.
>>7984375sovl... good work
i have to start using perspective grids.. fah>>7984307mogged sadly.. sorry peril
>>7984376Nah not really.It’s not the 00s anymore you won’t get anywhere with Higurashi/Tsukihime tier art
can i get some feedback on >>7984112 just call it abysmal horseshit whatever i just want critique.i know i shouldnt bother coloring stuff if i cant even get the sketch/lineart good enough but i drew that out of boredom
>>7984346Horoscope for 15 year old edgelords
I wanted to tap into my childhood. I was abducted by aliens and anally probed
>>7984375Holy fertility
>>7984381Learn construction and anatomy. Everything is sorta just plopped on the page. It's hard to tell what's even going on desu.
>>7984383>t. brown eyed laborer
>>7984384>I was abducted by aliens and anally probedSo that's the cause of rampant homosexuality!
>>7984379i do think they're interesting, each sister is very distinct from each other
>>7984112i think its obvious that you need fundamentals but whats mostly weird here is the arms of the guy in the back, im not sure if hes trying to choke him out or if hes hugging him. if its the later the arms should probably go down the guys torso instead of being raised straight towards the front like that. Also the guy in the front is drawn in a way that implies hes closer to the camera, his whole torso is fully visible when his backside should be somewhat covered by the guy in the back.its ok to color tho just have fun
>>7984386danke. will do(or try to)
>>7984386>>7984381This is a later step.He's form blind. He has to learn perspective before anything else. Atleast be able to draw forms that break the paper. Then he can move on into anatomy and construction
>>798190815yo deer on 4chan...
>tfw trying to draw but I can't let anyone in my house knowThis is like FNAF irl
>>7984398Stop drawing gay porn, faggot. Your dad would be proud if you pivot to loli porn.
>>7984401I'm drawing hairy female pits
>>7984387No one here's is a "laborer". Pawell became one and he had to drop off from this board.
>>7984408Whatever happened to a bowel of fruit or maybe a lanscape?
>>7984408EXCELLENT fucking taste, we need more of your kind in the world
>>7984412It's summer, I'm sweaty and I keep smelling my own pits because it's so addicting, no I do not get turned on by it, I just like the smell
>>7984408>>7984414You can't make posts like this and not pyw.
pain and suffering
>>7984339>>7984325I tried to fix it but my hands tremble like crazy and i can't really put that much detail but at least i was able to slap it on the redline. Anime is way too hard and the limited good resources doesn't help. The way you positioned the nose indicates a lower tilt, your nose needs to be higher if you want her to tilt the head higher?. Take everything i say with a grain of salt
>>7984410nice
speed and weight
Rendering = answering "which way does this surface face?" over and over. That's the whole game. Light comes from somewhere. Every patch of surface either faces it (light), turns away (shadow), or is in between (mid). A gradient exists because the surface curves — it's gradually rotating from facing-light to facing-away.So the process, for any object:1. Decide the light direction. One arrow. Write it in a corner if you have to.2. Group values first: what's the shadow side, what's the light side? Two values. Hard split. This is a decision about the form, not something you find in the ref.3. Where the form curves, transition between them. Sharp corner = sharp transition. Round curve = soft transition. Edge softness describes geometry.4. Details last, and they obey the groups. A marking in the shadow side stays darker than the same marking in the light side. This is what people mean by "form over local color."
>>7984416>You can't make posts like this and not pyw.I'm sorry but I'm a giga/beg/ who doesn't know how to draw well and procrastinates for 5 hours on 1 drawing
>>7984431Hatkidfag...
someone asked me if i could draw vore art, should do it? i've never drawn anything nsfw
>>7984444Holy digits. Follow your heart.
>>7984444Please don't
>>7984444checked and yes
>>7984444i'm a beg
>>7984395The writing goes slowly, because I need to draw new backgrounds every few scenes.
>>7984375Oh shit! I always wanted to draw them! Who's "36"? Is that her name? What's her story?>>7984378Not fair! I was going for a real face+anatomy(sorta).. He cheated!Pretty fucking cool Monter Garrl.>>7984369Nice hatchet!!>>7984325Extremely beautiful>>7984322NICE!>>7984314Thanks anon!!! I may do another version later>>7984311Excellent work anon!>>7984307You win this time!>>7984138This is cute!>>7983842Very stylish composition!
>>79843781)Post your doodle in a magma canvas with free account2) Use grid and align with drawing3)Hide everything except grid, screenshot grid and paste screenshot on a new separate empty layer ,aligning the raster carefully with the actual grid layer4) Click File > Export As>PSD5) Open in software of choice and continue drawing or paintingAlternatively you can simply continue drawing on Magma or Drawpile which are the superior drawing apps IMO. If you require more dense layer modes or 3D I suggest cracked old PS or CSP 5.0
Working on my third art fight attack. Line art is still kicking my ass but at least I planned the background out beforehand this time.
>>7984461Wouldn't it be less work to use CSP's grid feature instead or is it just too cumbersome?
Ignored by the mass replier. It’s over.
>>7984464It’s normal he is discriminatory towards appeal.
>>7984464Link your work and I'll (you) you
>>7984378>tfw when some retard says "perspective grid" and you just know he will never get iti am playing 5d chess by the way
>>7984468No I’ll just KMS.
Eye study (hide course).There is this theory that if you have double eyelids, you NGMI in anime-style art. I hope it is false.
>>7984369Yeah I've been very slowly learning how to draw clothing so I can draw regular girls, but I haven't gotten the hang of it yet. Making folds that aren't repetitive but remain believable is really hard.
>>7984467It is the opposite, the problem is "him" replying to every single post, when most begs here don't deserve any reply at all.
>>7984467oof
peril used to reply to me but now doesn't. that's how you know you made it
Today’s perspective practice
>>7984308that's why you will stay in /beg/ forever
>>7984455
>>7984397i started posting on 4chan 12 years ago but i didn't draw for a lot of that. i gave it an honest try a few times and gave up due to being a pleb ..... never habit formed, sadge. only came to IC in 2024 though, that made me habit formation
>>7984491wait that's wrong i drew a lot in the 9th grade and then drew monthly in 2023
>>7984187>you got this anon.Frankly I think I don't, it's hard to draw when your back hurts and you're sweating constantly
>>7984483same
>>7983990another attempt. left a single lightsource and only did grayscale. bad, but expected!>>7984295>NEVER. I LIKE YOUR SHIT TOO MUCHcan't force you, but do know that it's extremely demotivating>>7984426cool talentbabble
I thought I knew how the shading had to go but I actually have no clue ahhhhhhhhh
>>7983960but i am posting...>>7984042yes, but... i'm not wrong
>>7984510This nigga looks like he lives in innsmouth
>almost 3 years into drawing and still cant have fun doing it because im badive been taking an art course and getting myself to sit through the lectures has been getting progressively harder too because it feels like im never going to be good enough to use anything its teaching
>>7984543If you aren’t having fun while being bad you still won’t if you get good.
>>7984543you should be using what they teach as soon as you learn ityou'll forget it otherwise
Two damaged computer monitors to draw on. failing LCD, vertical lines, random brightness.But it's a joy.
>>7984543pyw
>>7984550Finally. A good drawing.
>>7981908>Grate has been drawing for 15 yearssource?
warm up>>7983990>>7984522I think you’re running into stylization problems as you progress. I can see that you keep adding more and more details as you learn, but you don’t seem to know when to remove things. There’s too much emphasis on the clavicles, armpits, knees, and waist. With the head, you keep stylizing the features while keeping them constrained to the proportions of a realistic head, which makes it feel off. Study more artwork that you like and pay attention to how those artists simplify and abstract forms.>>7984061It’s not bad it’s cute, but it feels sterile like done as a chore. Start thinking more about composition, framing, and the background. Even a simple shape in the background can make an image much more intriguing. Backgrounds don’t have to be fully rendered environments, but they should complement the composition.Start with something simple, frame the figure using the rule of thirds, then begin experimenting with different background shapes and designs. Keep the context of the piece in mind, and post your results.>>7984112Keep an eye on tangents, especially around the legs. That tangent at the knee makes the pose look awkward. Also, don't be afraid to use color it’s free, so take advantage of it. The figure could be improved, but at your current level I wouldn’t be too harsh. Drawing hugs and bodies interacting is really difficult, so this is a good attempt. Keep going.
I give up.I'm trying to figure out how I can draw a simplified portrait with minimal shading so that I can use it as a practice exercise but I just can't make it work.
I CANT DRAW FUCKING HELP ME PLEASEI AM BEGGING.>>7984543WELCOME TO HELL.
>>7983963one of the images you quoted wasnt drawn by the posted you drooling nigger
>>7984562look for a single source light ref and start with a 2 value simplification. Even better start with the sargent's charcoal portraits and do a 2 value study on them.
Peril makes me happy :)
>>7984455Okay I'm making my own story about her, she's in the military, and she got scouted for an MKultra type of program. So now she has been abducted into a high security underground facility where she is being subjected to all sort of cruel and painful "experiments".>>7984488THAT'S GREAT!!!! What filter did you use? I used your colors, but I would prefer to use a filter or the one right color with a multiply layer so I don't have to be picking the right color, it takes too much time.>>7984522>can't force you, but do know that it's extremely demotivatingI..I. I can do it b..better! I really can!: You're amazing Appeal God! GANBARE GOODDASAY!!!>>7984464HI !!!!!>>7984527Interesting composition, I like these surreal pieces..>>7984510he he he>>7984384Cool, still I don't believe in aliens.>>7984355Yeah also the hand give it away too. It is the rendering quality.>>7984454Please don't mind this silly fan-posting, I do these random silly pics about random cool stuff that I found in this board. I always wanted to do something fun with these characters.>>7984562You're pretty damn close to give up. Just take a rest and relax for a bit.
Drew this from imagination
>>7984576I'm doing imaginative drawings too. Definitely a struggle.
warming up>>7984369cool ref
>>7984455>>7984488>>798457512 sisters VN guy here, very nice drawings, better than mine.
started drawing again (couple of months break), drewded some dogs. Followed the references pretty closely.Liked drawing the coats of arms for the origin place of each breed, thought it sort of clever.
done. no more spam
>>7984584mogs me
>>7984590 ass too big waist too low Good drawing grats
>>7984592thanks anon, it's suspiciously better than what I was drawing before the break. Something to think about. I took my time, I guess.
>>7984590Pretty
>>7983851>check out this free csp pack>free csp brush pack>amazing hair rendering csp brush>csp asset packJust fucking end my krita life
>>7984590nice, like the lines. Not so sure about the face but probably a style thing.>>7984596>aym?was considering pirating csp a couple of days ago but cba and remembered someone moaning about csp being sort of janky.very nice drawings, especially the thread challenge. I always mean to do them but never have. Maybe this one?
>>7984596It is just brushes... No one needs that many brushes...
>>7983838Top deck for the mantis from SWTOR, i'm using my most detailed resolution yet.
Rate this painting.
How does it feel that you guys live in a culture where you're encouraged to draw? My family forbids drawing, they want me to become a fast food or factory worker. They think there's no money in art or it's a waste of time.
>>7984606They're right. You should listen to your family.
>>7984606>How does it feel that you guys live in a culture where you're encouraged to drawi wouldn't know tbtbhDo you not have any free time during the day? even just an hour or two? You can post on 4chan, draw for yourself and share it here if you want to.
>>7984606I have a full time job and still draw every dayif you like it, you'll find time for it
>>7984606wise family
>>7984606Listen to your family, or you will have a life of endless pain and suffering.
Retarded bait schizo post gets a gazillion replies, anons posting their work gets zero replies, every single time. This fucking place.
>>7984619This board and its posters deserve to suffer such curses.
>>7984607I don't want to work in a fast food joint or factory.>>7984608My mom looks to see what I'm doing every hour or so.
>>7984619Sorry you’re art sucks fsggor
>>7984575[ NO ]Now what?
>>7984620me on the left
>>7984599coooooooooope
>>7984625Yes
advice for stopping myself from fucking about and wasting time after i get home from the office and just go straight into studying? it feels so mentally taxing trying to do it after an entire 9 hours of mental strain
I CANT FUCKING DRAW
>>7984599now THIS is a beg trap
>>7984632You think about it all the time. Going to the office, during your work in the office, while you take a shit at the office, going back from the office, while you're doing your dinner, while you're taking a bath, you're thinking about it, making images in your head, taking mental notes. Doing the actual art should be quick and to the point.
>>7984625It's nice to see some congenital limb deformity representation in these threads.
>>7984636what he said. i got better after a few years of no draw
>>7984619you're doing the same thing
>>7984605Where the fuck did the oil go/10
tried to change the angle a bit>>7983951
>>7984640ew ew
I'm horny for femboys
>>7984645did you start by spending a significant amount of time drawing 10000 boxes and circles?
>>7984640You are le triggering my trauma..
>>7984653Yes. Draw a Box was a great inspiration.
>>7984653of courseI have fallen for all the board memesboxes, blooks, bridgman, you name it
>>7984463CSP's grids are too cumbersome and don't quite fill up the entire area like Magma's can, they're fast lightweight and can be spammed multiple times within the same their own cropped borders very efficiently. To do the same is much more cumbersome on CSP as the grid always fills up the entire frame or not exactly where you want it.
>>7984659Addendum, the CSP asset store has some good gridding tools but you have to set those up and dig through your 3D downloaded asset tools each time to really make them work. I'd say best combo is to use grids from magma and 3D modeling in CSP for a hybrid scene building workflow.
>MagmaLegit a piece of garbage. Drawpile is right there
>>7984661It's only garbage if you use a garbage web browser and dont turn on hardware acceleration. If you use brave or opera it runs better in my experience and for a lot of people the desktop downloadable app works great too. Drawpile is also fantastic and better in terms of multi layer selection, folders, magic wand, smart bucket tools but it doesn't have any perspective grid tools. I've found that what matters most is drawing feel and sketching tools such as grids matter the most for sketching and inking and using whatever software of choice for painting and finishing is usually the most solid option.
>>7984662>magmaShit brushesTurbo dogshit scale on a 4k screen tablet (you are not poor are you? You DO have a WACOM 4k screen tablet right?)Can't move the canvas up or down without their retarded hotkey (it's not m)Scrollbars doesn't really scroll and no sidescroll to go up and down because fuck youShit brushesMeanwhile Drawpile is unironically a photoshop lite and all the brushes are great. Magma doesn't work on a 4k screen display, try being..er... less poor dude.
>>7984665I appreciate your studies, I save them allOne day I'll do studies like this too
Any crit anons? Perspective, values, light, etc. Trying to push all further, all around.Also to photoshop anons. Any better way to blend colors then just the smudge tool? I put down two values of grey and then smudged them for 45 minutes. There has to be a better way.Also >>7984584 this is sick anon
>>7984246liberalism is right wing though
>>7984670i think the values for the inner part of the ears are far too dark. i also think some darker values on the shadow below the jaw and below the nose could look good.
>>7984246Yeah "creativity" like a urinal or a piece of banana
>>7984560feedback noted, thanks!
I'm so back bros...>>7984651I'm sorry to say, that's just a chick with small tits. This is not gay enough...
>>7984665don't you think doing this has diminishing returns at this point, just make finished work and study what you need for it specifically
cwc is more talented than me,
>>7984560>>7984690I'm dead tired but I tried doing something simple before going to bed. I'll put more effort next time.
>>7984700mogs me into oblivion
>>7984670forget about blending and just focus on proportions, values and planes
>>7984704nta, that's just a whole different guy.
Not feeling this one. Critique is appreciated
35 minutes down the drain
>>7984744what is there to critique? you have the ref right there, put your drawing above it and see where you went wrongAll I can is your lines are wobbly, practice CSI
>>7984747I’ll try that, ty
>>7984670Don't blend everything with a soft edge for one. Try to use a reference too if you're studying so it's easier to find mistakes
what's that technique called when people make their completed line art gray and add other shades on gray on top of it so they don't have to pick colors for shading?
>>7984757wow, this is pro
>>7984560nah I'm too dumb to do any meaningful study>>7984692these are great gestures man. I wonder if talentfags like you switch between different brushes when sketching, or is it some kind of a talentbrush that read your intentions for each stroke? so much line variation...
wish I knew how to go from a scribbly mess to clean lineart without it looking like complete ass
this general is all bitching and fussing like, bro, i am in agony and its not even about drawing, you dont know shit
anybody know good courses for composition? i like vilppu but this fucker sounds like a philosopher sometimes
>>7984761Blending with opacity
feeling lazy today so only rough sketching and thumbnailing
Started out doing mouth studies, was coming along well enough i wanted to keep going, flubbed the head shape and right eye. C’est la vie.
Why is it so hard to stylize faces from photos? I've tried following chommang and I've gotten really good at copying his drawings but I can't apply his style to new photos. Do I just keep grinding or do I need to study something in particular?
>>7984774Usually that means you’re not as confident in the underlying sketch as you should be and you haven’t actually decided where every line should go. You have so many vague scribbly lines that you can IMAGINE a good drawing, but you haven’t actually drawn it yet. So the solution is to simply produce a better and more well-defined sketch.As for the mechanics of actually producing clean lines in one stroke, you just get better with mileage
>>7984824>C’est la vieleave>nose ringas fast as you canand close the door behind you
>>7984839>common expression>leaveWhat?>nose ringBecause I like alt bitches?
>>7984774i clean up on the same layer using this and eraser. it's slower, but the lines end up looking better
>>7984846just ignore him its baitI quite like your drawing but think the features might be a bit too large for the head. face also looks a bit flat, hard problem to solve without shading/drawing lines and making it "ugly". also perspective on the ears is off.>please dont trust any advice I give im /beg/gybeg
tried
>>7984855looks pretty good, very 3d!, but legs are way too long?
>>7984856was trying to draw this
My latest work
>>7984868Sovl… at last…
>>7984863how do i make it closer to that
>>7984871grind your observational/form/draftmanship skills
>>7984874how?
>>7984875Just draw.
>>7984868mogs me
>>7984871see how much the legs foreshorten in the original and compare it to yoursit's also a good idea to lightly erase when there are many sketch lines and then go over and draw the single 'correct' linemakes it easier to spot your own mistakes
>>7984875Observation: Try to be more conscious about the things you draw in relation to each other. For example how long the arm is compared to the torso, etc, try to measure objects in your reference in relation to other things, i think this is probably the most important fundamental but very often get overlooked. This will help a lot with wonky proportionsForm: Draw 3d shapes in perspectiveDraftmanship: It gets better with more experience and it's a waste of time to focus solely on it so just draw anything you like
>>7984870>>7984880Thank you. What do you guys think about my short comic
>>7984863>>7984863>>7984871>>7984875tbf you've done a pretty good job following the reference, just the reference anatomy is stylised. Your observation is far from bad. Unironically just draw more, draw from life, draw from photographs.
>>7984881>>7984882>>7984891thanks
how do we feel about the cheeky shading on the bottom right. I've put down darker/lighter shadows at random>>7984824>cumshot target pierchingstay>>7984868>>7984886soul>>7984898very appealing croquis
warmup from toshithanks for the anon that posted that book, it has a lot of nice drawings
>>7984900you're baiting Peril with those nipples
>>7983851drew AI again award
Who would you say is /ic/'s best artist?
>>7984917nice, made him look a bit like TRVMP
>>7984907What references did you use?
>>7984903What book?
I'm extremely sick. Should I do some line and hatching drills or should I force myself to draw stuff?
>>7984938>I'm sickWell, don't be
I think I might actually like art
I’m understanding the sand, it’s all beginning to make sense and I’m going to make it
>>7984934notes?
>>7984918me or maybe even (You)
Might have to take a vacation from drawing due to health issues. I can add a month onto my year long deadline to git gud, it’ll be alright…
im throwing hours of my life into a hobby im not sure Ill ever get good at. when I think about it I scream in pain.I cant make anything that looks worthwhile. i think im doing good then i look back and its awful.
>>7984952You are going to get good though(if you put in the work) as long as you keep going. What you don't know is when is it going to be or if you're going to die before that(unlikely)
one more>>7984931https://e-hentai.org/g/1835400/10425e30d7/
>>7984964NTA but that's kinda what I hate about drawing, it's not quantifiable like learning a language per say where you can say "I learned 20 words today!" or "I learned this grammar concept in 4 days!", instead it's "I learned how to draw hands maybe?" and then a few days later you're worse off in some other area than you were yesterday
>>7984909Ackshually, I'm not into puffy aureola, but puffy thick nipples. NOT THE SAME. @__@3->>7984623> [ NO ] Now what?Nothing, it's game over.>>7984601Cool!!! Do these ships have prison cells?>>7984584Fucking incredible! SAVED!>>7984582Thanks anon! Glad you liked her!>>7984576Very beautiful piece and based retro pilled>>7984855Pretty sexy figs!!!>>7984692LOVE IT!!!>>7984645Beautiful and adorable style>>7984824Nice scribbles! can't get enough of them!
Well. It's finished. And guess what? I don't like it. Looks like AI and something else is bothering me that I can't put my finger on. But whatever. I'm moving on.
>>7984976That's fair, but these days I just quantify it by how shitty and dumb I was a month or a maybe even a couple of weeks ago. And yeah I do know more than past me. I guess it becomes more difficult though once the things you are learning becomes more abstract? But for now, I'm happy with the fact that I know a bit more anatomy, or whatever things I learned
>>7984980i didnt want them to be sexy just capturing the pose is all or trying
>>7984982Face needs more work. I think it could be aight if you're able to fix that
>>7984983I study anthropology and am familiar with human facial and cranial features, however this doesn't help me much in drawing because I can't draw well lol
>>7984990It helps a lot if you know where to place them(when drawing, not imagining)
>>7984693No. I made 5 complete works last 2 threads but got no critique so I'm literally working on issues I personally found peice by peice (for now how the torso connection works)
>>7984980>Fucking incredible! SAVED!thanks, that's really kind. You do a good service mass replying, it can't be easy work. I salute you.
>my drawing never get replied toDamn, I should just give up
>>7984995Weird, I don't remember typing this.
What level is this?
>>7984982I love the effort and earnestnessdoing multiple characters interacting, background, color and light is gonna be very hard at this skill level (at any skill level honestly)it's not a bad idea to lower the difficulty, you can try a single character in a more abstract bg, and focus on proportion and form, maybe even grayscale to keep it simple
>>7984988I like their faces. It's the coloringthat bothers me. SOmethng about it screams "amateur work".>>7985000Thanks, anon.>it's not a bad idea to lower the difficultyWell, when I think of a drawing idea I don't take into my own skill level. So that's why I often end up doing things beyond my skill. I guess it's not a godd habit.
>>7984999AI tier
>>7984999woman
>>7985001>I guess it's not a good habit.it's fine to challenge yourself, especially if it's the vision you're afterjust try to get some easy wins too
>>7985001To each his own. But yeah, I agree with the coloring. Let me know if you find how to fix it. By the way I was watching krenz some time ago and he mentioned something about avoiding the higher saturation colors if you still haven't mastered values. Someone correct me if I'm wrong
>>7984692Is this gay enough
>>7985009Just let the cock be free.
I see drawing hands is my strong point kek
>slacking off all day>don't wanna draw>going to sleep>wanna drawfuck this gay earth
IT'S TOO HOT TO DRAW
>>7984982>>7985001>I like their faces. It's the coloring that bothers me. SOmethng about it screams "amateur work"I really like your face style too. I don't think is the coloring that gives you that vibe tho. I think it is about little subtle details in the lineart, that look like "isolated chicken scratch" and the brain makes those little details jump out of the picture. Little details, like the pointy hair, and some lines of skin or clothing folds placed tightly together, etc. Also the brush line that you're using is pretty unforgiving. Many artists hide their shitty lineart with thick and stylish artistic brushes. Your lineart style is like playing in "extra hard mode". But you pulled it off, in my opinion saving tiny details like the pointy hair this is a nicely finished pic. As you said you should move on and keep doing this using the same method, trying to making it simpler and faster, that will make you develop smoother lines and more stylized designs, because you will get used to keep going with your line in one stroke, or fewer strokes, so your mind will make your designs simpler and simpler, tidier and tidier, like when solving those equations when you cross out numbers making the formula simpler, your brain will do the same with your designs and compositions, whatever it is, hair styles, clothing, stuff in general. That's very convenient when doing these lineart cel shade anime style images. Also I added a thing wich is creating very simple and basic methods to ad details like hair reflections or random folds, you can use one gimmicky visual "tool" to add detail to anything, so you can work faster and faster. Also the line brush and the stabilization that I use. Hope it helps>>7984993>thanks that's really kind. You do a good service mass replying, it can't be easy work. I salute youThank you so much! Actually, the replying part is the easy part, but I get it, I work mostly on my desktop, I guess many anons are on their phones and that doesn't help
>>7984982its the lineart, shading and a bit of stilazation
>>7985052Thanks, Peril. Some things have become much easier and faster with time but there is still a lot slowing me down. I'm gonna give this piece a rest and wait a few days to see what's really the deal with it. I still think the problem lies in the coloring since the sketch (>>7983663) still looks great to me.>>7985055That's how the real/official thing looks. Though I might have made it a little longer than it should be.
>>7984667This is not true. I use magma on my Wacom cintiq pro 24 which is 4k, both drawpile and magma. Both of their brush defaults are pretty good
where's the line between copying and using reference? is it 2+ references is fine but only 1 is copying? is copying strokes fine? is copying form but not strokes fine?anyways here's my bi weekly post. trying to learn to draw furries since i heard you can make money.
>>7984982>Looks like AIDon't flatter yourself
>>7985077If you start a sketch without reference, but then improve it with reference, doesn't matter how many, then it's not copyingThe eye is way too big
>>7985077not necesarilyfor example gurney paints from life watching his subject, but it's not really copyingin fact it'd be kinda difficult to copy real life, it has way too much detailso the painter must simplify, abstract and composehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqiZBUCG1Ms
>>7985098What about copying other's works? At what point does it go from referencing style/design to copying?
>>7983851Like that it’s something different from usual, hate that it’s ugly as sin. That guy who was drawing boomers from L4D would have a field day
>>7985052>I really like your face style tooYou're the biggest crab on this entire board.
Done planning the clicker, just gotta add colors. I think I can finish tonight
Just drew this
>>7985111>That guy who was drawing boomers from L4Dholy based
>>7985138lol they’re talking about me. I’ll give the ref a shot but it’s a bit…gross to say the least
I haven't shaved in 8 days and haven't washed my hair in 5 days, am I set for drawing good now?
>>7985142Are you a grill?
I feel like I’ve finally finished this but I’d really appreciate some feedback on this piece
>>7985151The character looks flat, I'm not feeling the form.The dress is missing a lot of folds, it doesn't look like it's being pulled down by gravity.The body to head ratio is seems too high.
>>7985148>Are you a grill?God I wish I was...then I could smell my sweaty hairy girl armpits
>>7985074pywcp24 >>7985151legs2bigsun2brightfeetarebackwards
>>7985151I like it. But the clothes look a little flat. Add a more shadows and one or two wrinkles/folds to give it more form and volume
I'm copying bridgman and it looks nice.So why do my drawings look so ugly when I draw from imagination. I think about the basic shapes but it looks ugly, what's the trick?
>>7985166>what's the trick?Good genes
>>7985077moar furry practice>>7985151she's leaning on her hand but her hand isn't flush against the wall.>>7985111just doing a wave for the trim pattern makes it look like cardboard desu. maybe you could try breaking up the repetition a bit with a more greebly looking trim pattern.
>>7985166>I'm copying bridgman and it looks nice.>So why do my drawings look so ugly when I draw from imaginationCopying and using references doesn't translate to fundies gains, read a book
>>7985169I was told I shouldn't read, just copy the drawings.
>>7985171Dont read to get better at drawing. Reading won’t make you a better artist, only drawing will
>>7985169>>7985172fags
>>7985173Expand Your Knowledge with a Good Read!
I know this is probably a stupid question but how do I as a /beg/ draw quicker, it feels like I spend hours on one godawful drawing and burn myself out physically and mentally
>>7985176same as any skill. you just practice until you don't need to think about what you're doing anymore.
>>7985166Can replicate the copies from memory? Memorization is key because it becomes part of your visual library.
>>7985178Okay but how do I stop getting out of my chair mid-drawing and walking around the house ruminating about how I can't draw?
>>7985168you're symbol drawing
>>7985183You have to accept you are a perma-beg who's never going to get dopamine from looking at their work or from external validation and grind more
>>7985166Practice drawing from memoryhttps://youtu.be/s_NuJIJ6wGYhttps://youtu.be/G8e2DcN5kAohttps://youtu.be/S9Cx4pIjSvAhttps://youtu.be/gkbQnBi_JqUBesides that, more fundies. You can even look up refs for fundies like the krenz cube grid and draw it from memory. Either way, your drawings from imagination are going to be shit until you build a solid visual library, which takes a lot of time and practice
>>7985192>You have to accept you are a perma-beg who's never going to get dopamine from looking at their work or from external validationDamn
Could any kind soul draw this pose with boxes and cylinders?
>>7985197you forgot to quote an important partalso, while being self-critical you have to keep a positive mindsethttps://files.catbox.moe/bnynqj.webm
https://files.catbox.moe/mpgylv.mp4
>>7985202>also, while being self-critical you have to keep a positive mindsetIt's much harder with something as abstract as drawing, I kinda wish I was less dogmatic and analytical
>>7985198>twitter android app still hasn't fixed that retarded issue where the bottom pixels get displacedGood job Elon
>>7985166Imagination is just inferior to reference unless you're drawing some baby shit like anime. For example, you're not going to be able to perfectly imagine how muscles change and deform under load for different body types.
>>7985211Why not?
>>7985210https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/103548445I found it on pixiv
>>7985157>>7985163>>7985165>>7985168I tried to fix as many of the issues as I could as well as cropping it to try and make the composition more interesting
i quit art is only for the gifted, wealthy and lucky
>>7985212Too complex. You can do it if you've drawn the pose before, but not for novel poses.
>>7985183You need to catch the early symptoms of the spiral before you're caught in it. Find a grounding technique to stay present in the moment. It could be a silly video or something nostalgic that takes you to a better place. Whatever works for you
>>7985215>art is only for the gifted, wealthy and luckyJust have fun anon
>>7985216You are fucking stupid and a danger to society and i'm not even joking, the fact that drawing shares the "artistic/creativity" quality makes abhorrent people like you invade spaces for right minded and right wing individuals, you are the literal meaning of a crab. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUkfFZUR59UThis lady draws 100 bodies from imagination in less than hour, what's your excuse? Too stupid to learn gym bro levels of anatomy? Actually dumber than a gym bro FUCKING KEK
>>7985219i cant have fun when all my shit looks awful despite spending hours on it.i cant study because of power outages. i hate my life
>>7985211Anime is a superior form of art, though.
>>7985225You need to be 18 to post here
7985229mogged to hell by a software engineer, obvious IQ problem is obvious, many such cases! >>7985228These retards can't even build a basic bitch human body, 0 chance in hell they will be able to deform the mass and stylize it when they can't even rotate the normal shape. It's funny seeing engineers mog everyone that's been trying to draw for years though, They lack the hair color but they make up for it with the beauty of their SOVL
>>7985214I think it looks way better
>>7985211this is true, and even in fields where you're supposed to master the human body and mechanics due to sheer repetition, like animation, it is preferred to make your own refs to capture believable movement, natural posing and timing
>>7985235>tranny art>"SOVL"Krenz would never.
While it is true that multifaceted geniuses exist that can excell at many fields you shouldnt feel discouraged about your own progress.I have also seen great talented artists who are complete fucking failures anywhere else and lack any other skillset for life. This guy I follow is a neet who sells out at Comiket and his merch store prints money but is a 32 yo manchild who cant function irl and depends on mommy and daddy to do anything that isnt drawing.I have also seen many artists who are retarded niggers in anything but art.Seeing one of the many super talented fags who get to do anything they want because they are blessed can be disheartening but keep trying your best.
>>7985243What if I have 2 master's degrees in different fields and my maternal aunt is an artist who can draw in different styles, techniques and with both hands? Is there hope for me yet?
>>7985243You know these people personally? that's crazy, any conversations that you had with them in like your head? i wanna hear about them.
the head studies will continue until morale improves>>7984903glad you like them. at this point there is little in stopping me from studying every single one of his drawings. it is just too much fun
>>7985183I don't remember posting this.
Homer let the barts out
>trying to learn pencil style rendering>try use multiple values and transition>get muddy uneven crap>try to break it down to fewer values and fill in by value>now it looks cel-shaded/filled in and bad
>>7985249Please stop having the same pictures I have on my computer
how do i shade without it looking blotchy?>>7985214looks great now
>imagine how others live while being snarky and insidious like a low quality womanyeah that's easy>imagine how a muscle movesLITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE HOLY FWARK>>7985252>can't prove me wrongI wonned. I also wonned with the AI torso, i also wonned when i called out the brazilian retard for copying and when i called out pikat for being a pre-beg for 10 years and the entire western shartist hemisphere for being grifting retards eating the innards of a dead industry. We are winning so much. We are getting tired of winning. And you'll say, 'Please, please, it's too much winning. We can't take it anymore, Mr. Barto, it's too much.' And I'll say, 'No, it isn't. We have to keep winning. We have to win more!!!11!!one!1oneI will forever foster hate towards artists and left brained AAAAAAAAAAACK retards >>7985214>crops the feetjust use a reference dude, that's the most important part of the drawing! (the bigger the poggier)
>>7985198
>>7985257stop. there is a place for you >>7978959
>>7985263Much appreciated
>>7984863These legs don't make sense, one touches the butt but another just disappears behind the other? i don't want to hear about ai mistakes when human artists are not infallible
>>7985260He opened up the door
behold
>>7985290>>7985291Grim...
>>7985290You shold put more effort in it. These are only sketches and doodles. You won't improve if you don't try harder. Make some finished pieces sometime.
>>7985294>starts with high effort and careness, in the GMI path>loses determination at each figure>last one is a NGMI vomit of lines, a sad shadow of its former self
>>7985290>>7985291Don’t post this it’s triggering my transgender trama
>>7985255aim for cell shaded and good.
i have the shading charcoal pencils but dont know which one is for what
>>7985335Try google
Is this a good method for drawing heads? https://youtu.be/Cvqw1HJkG20?is=_ObxIWi_vWSAtDDQ
I CANT FUCKING DRAW. I AM PERMABEGGARBABEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>7985354Me too
uwahh - - ~
>>7985367i am pretty sure that you cant do this with one vanishing point?
>>7984562So I went back to playing with this and removed a bunch of the pointless shading I added in frustration and it is actually much closer to what I was originally intending.Thanks for reading my blog post.
dwagon>>7985151the sand dunes have shapes and shadows that usually only appear on really large dune structures so it makes it look like she's a giantess>>7984820thumbnail practice is gud and underrated
>>7985370Is that true? I didn't get to the actual perspective part of the book yet, I'm just doing this exercise over and over again until I get used to the screenless tablet.
you people are so evil to me
>>7985386I never heard of you
>>7985393redblob anon? Are you back?
>>7985395i don't know who that is
>>7985385as long as the box is aligned in the vertical and horizontal with the picture plane, you can use a single vpbut the further out you go from the center, the more distorted they'll get, as they leave the cone of visionbut of course, this is just linear perspective, actual human vision makes those verticals and horizontals curve in our peripheral
banana ship
>>7985254STOP YOU'RE HURTING ME
>>7985254PLEASE BLESS ME WITH TALENT. I BEG.
>>7985404you win
>>7985385what i was trying to say originally is that you cant change the vanishing point in between objects to rotate them, thats why the vanishing point being off center made me sperg out, even though you didnt do that
>>7985399>but the further out you go from the center, the more distorted they'll getI see. That explains why an old study I did one one-point perspective a while back looked so weird to me. Well, there is much to learn.
>>7985352No it's just the loomis method regurgitated by some amateur. Read a book and learn it properly.
>>7985405you are miles ahead of him? why the attention whoring?
>>7985416this looks weird because you didnt place things at the y position they should be, you are supposed to do mathematics not random bullshit go.
>>7985413wtf mogger can i see your drawings of women
>>7985421go?
>>7985416the other anon is right, you're doing random bs, not one point perspectiveaccording to the roof, the eye level is around the blue lineaccording to the left table, it's around the red lineand according to the right table, way up top near the roofchoose an eye level, place the vp, then make all depths point to it
Any crits?
>>7983696There's nothing wrong with that robot.... at least nothing too glaring, trust me... im the biggest crit giver on this guy.
>>7985380Super cute>>7985393Chad>>7985401Mecha anon? I feel like you could either tone down the yellow toward beige or add some extra black ngl but the ship itself is cool af
>>7985446pick up literally 3 symbol shading tricks, take the lines off, literally sakimichan and all the other faggots.
>>7984665Your sholders and ribcage's always seem too skinny, they dont have any "depth". Mainly in the 3/4th view.
>>7985447you dont know shit, like you literally dont know anything about what you are talking abouti didnt say his work sucked, i saved it, even though it wasnt perfect (not even at a glance), am i supposed to ride his dick like you, cocksucker?
>>7984665stop giving attention to somebody who draws one thing badly all the time just because it gets your dicks harddoesnt even know what the ribcage looks like, a fucking joke
>>7985456>am i supposed to ride his dick like you, cocksucker?Im actually about to write up a 2000 long text post about this yellow one >>7985401but since you know so much more than me, and you can see all flaws can't you huh? Go ahead and tell me whats wrong with it then.There's a reason why you said it looked off but couldn't figure it. (Its because you don't know).
grumpy nodraws are so cute
>>7985458lmao you are so retarded, i literally said he was freehanding the perspective because the distortion was nonsensical, and i am not about to analyze the fucking banana ship that i didnt even care to click on because the miniature looked stupidbut at a surface level, the wing in the back doesnt seem to have the same vanishing points as the wing in front and the head of the banana ship (which look like they share the same vanishing point)and by the way, you dont know shit yet are about to critique the guy who probably made the front wing and head of the ship look quite consistent freehanded? i dont think i can do that shit free handed withoit immense doubt, most people cant draw a figure's limbs without computing the depth axis and proportions or literally copying a reference.just do yourself a favor and shut the fuck up
>>7985458>Im actually about to write up a 2000 long text post aboutpls dont do, im out of mojo rn and just needed some (you)s.also lol, people are actually arguing about my art. personally i dont think the leftmost had an egregious perspective problem but its definitely a bit wonky in places so i can see how someone would interprete it as such. the other robot he mentioned does have perspective problems. dont rip out each others throats over this.
>>7985446most of the problems I see are with proportion and form (most evident in that a lot of the objects they hold feel flat or out of perspective) you're probably aware of it, the girl of the left is not even able to hold the sword as it ispaying more attention to the design and form of the heads would help
>>7985459post your league of legends loading screen level work or shut the fuck up
>>7985465jesus, it really doesnt matter if i critique people they will just stay in their little prison foreveri like your stuff but i am not going to tell you plain and simple why that robot on the left will get you laughed out of a room, nobody is owed this level of spoonfeeding
>>7985467adorable>>7985465I think it's a good sign, anons see the potential and want to see you push further
>>7985468>that robot on the left will get you laughed out of a roomi dont think it would get me laughed out considering it was a 10ish minute sketch. the amount of time i spent on drawings is very inconsistent.i wouldve indeed liked to have you redline the most obvious faults since if youre right i seem to be somewhat blind to it. however im not asking anyone to spend that much effort on my stuff unless out of free will.anyway, this seems to be quite a hostile interaction. just take a walk. i appreciate most criticism even the harsher ones but ill be honest about what i can relate to and what not and as said, the perspective problem wasnt fully relatable to me on the leftmost robot.
uh oh its the powertripping janny bringing peace and reassurance, gets his tiny dick squirming
>>7985474what happened? I just took a nap
>>7985473i like to ride a discussion in an inflammatory tone once in a while because its a breeding ground for (Yous), I am not as invested as i might have come off
like i didnt start it, this guy picked on my post 500 replies back, dickhandling
>>7985481Understandable, if you want (You)s the worst you can do is to waste your time posting your work. No one gives a shit. Derailing shitposting on the other hand does wonders.
finally somebody said it out loud, thank >>7985484
>>7985484Why would you want yous?
There is a difference between critique and being uncivil, just saying...
>>7985495https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGJEOHWKft0
>>7985449What?>>7985466Yeah fair enough i tried using some 3d model refs for the hand and it was pretty hard to use, ill go back to pictures of actual hands. I'm too sleep deprived to see what's fucked with the rest, i'll sleep and check back tomorrow
>>7985498>let me turn my brain off and say "what" like he just said gibberish because i dont actually want to change anything about myself and am just looking for validationenough with trying to engage is meaningful discussion, i will now shut up, eventually stop visiting, nothing will have changed at any pointyou know its funny that sometimes the internet people, by staying silent, make me think that i am stupid, but whenever they talk they turn out to be stupid themselves. You might think "oh you are just trying to feel smart" but like actually you are, I never overstepped, i tried to be a healthy participant, its just that everybody is so fucking vain lolthat guy rambling about social rape was right, you are all rapists>whatlike nigger what what? thats not a reactionary thing to say, you just raped my post with your agenda
>>7985446Pretty good. Kinda wish Mococo's shoulders weren't as boxy(?) but I'm way below your skill level so yeah
kirby is so malleable so fun to draw>>7985372Great save, dude. If you haven't already, check out Sargent. There are so many things to learn from him.>>7984830Umm, there are a lot of things here. It feels like you're not truly observing his work. Try again, using this as a guide if you need to. You can even overlay both images and trace them, but the goal is to actually think about and understand his abstractions.https://x.com/chommang/status/2059648721034559526Secondly, I'd be wary of his timelapses if you're using them. His work is great, but I'm not so sure about his teaching. For example, his "construction" doesn't really match his final work (I'm not a fan of loomis):https://x.com/chommang/status/2050554347218755676It feels more like a performance to sell a course than anything else. I say this because if you're following his timelapses, you may end up making some nonsensical choices, not because I think he's bad or anything.And finally, your line work is really heavy. Lighten your hand. Not every line has to be dark.
>>7985509pyw
>>7985129Made good progress today. Probably a day or 2 and it’ll be done
pretty glad the one i drew from imagination after studying the reference (furthest right) came out so well is that a good rate of absorption? it's almost 12am, i'd do more but sleepy
>>7985254what brush is that? looks coolalso nice studies, i need to sit down and try to nail fingers
>>7985539just a normal hard round with no anti aliasing and pressure, i used black with 50 opacity on the color for those
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
a rough idea for the bg and values
>>7985552Please gib talent.
It it annoying you guys when I post my artwork in multiple serverrs
>>7985563Yes please stop posting here
I feel sad.
I CANT draw faces. Just symbol drawn garbage.I stare in awe at artists like pic related who can make moeshit look so damn good and 3d. I WANT TO HURTY MSELF
>>7985571They kill you for posting kisaki here be careful
>>7985418anyone with a working pair of eyes can tell that the other guy has actual line control and understanding of form>>7985571malformed uggo
>>7985571I've never tried to draw that type of face, quick scribble test.. Doesn't seem that hard actually>>7985528NICE!!>>7985446Fucking incredible>>7985413Fucking saved>>7985405You're fucking incredible>>7985401Can you do some ships based on the Panzer Dragoon saga designs? >>7985393You're a real artist!>>7985117Ngh! Not true!>>7985063>Thanks, Peril. Some things have become much easier and faster with time but there is still a lot slowing me down. I'm gonna give this piece a rest and wait a few days to see what's really the deal with itNo problem Fren! It's a nice piece, the girls are really cute!>>7985254I thought you and appeal-anon were the same artist... mmmhhh
>>7985552rough and kinky sex on the cold church floor
>>7985599Damn i like that silhouette drawing it's really neat
>>7985446even if you don't intend to include everything into the final picture it can be very beneficial to at least have an idea of what the area look like that we can't see. Like for example here you probably would have realized the ridiculous proportions of the sword handle if you knew how large the sword actually is. And to know how large the sword is you kinda need to know where the floor is. The catgirl and the sword share the same surface they rest on so that's something you have to consider into the pose as a whole. yes it's extra work upfront but it saves you having to guess
>>7985537Is impossible for human head to turn this much, try it yourself.
>>7985622Isn't it faster to guess, than to do all that work? It already looked off, he just didn't have eyes for it
>>7985622Oh damn. Thanks Anon, i didn't think about this at all.
>>7985625Once you're good enough with a specific subject maybe. I kinda freestyled the weapons with no planning beside a few lines to show where they were going and i have almost 0 experience with weapons so i didn't catch it. Either way, doing what >>7985622 did doesn't take long, i should have done it.
I could've been /pro/ already if I knew how to render
>>7985509I don't think you understand. I'm not trying to copy chommang. I'm trying to learn how to capture likeness. And that's a brush pen. It only has one color.
>>7985639nah at best you'd be a /int/ rendermonkey
>>7985641what the difference?
>>7983951Meh, not my finest at all>>7985380Fun>>7985372Looks good>>7985346I like top right, keep going
What the FUCK did you just to me you little bitch!? I’ll have you know I’m trained in gorilla warfare!
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>>7985624i wasn't sure how to draw it to be honest. drawing heads... things from the left is a weakness of mine (one of many) i normally flip the canvas and then flip it back but i didn't want to do that this time... /blogpost
Drew a jester.
>tfw 13 year bisexuals draw better than meDrawing for this feel?
>>7985449wat?
City boy city boy
>>7985639I know you're joking but in case anyone is actually persuaded by this, no you wouldn't be. 90% of a drawing looking good is the underlying line drawing, all the rendering and color is just a cherry on top.
>>7985722Rendering is like 40-50%
The other thread still hasn’t hit image limit you fucking loosers participated in an unsanctioned follow-up I hope you dye!
>>7985722Rendering 95%. Only other artists or people with a refined eye see the underlying inconsistencies. That is why AI is popular, and that is why many garbage art or artists have thousands of likes/followers.
>>7985708I have no idea what he means by "symol shading trick" or "sakimichan and the other faggots". I guess take the lines off means to litteraly remove the lineart?
Nihu is popular because he uses AI for rendering.
>>7985599peril.... whjy didnt you comment the finale opf my comic.. did you not... rike it?
>>7985733>Only other artists or people with a refined eye see the underlying inconsistencies./beg/ isn't concerned with "inconsistencies" though, /beg/ is just trying to draw a box that isn't obviously lopsided
>>7985599>I thought you and appeal-anon were the same artist... mmmhhhhow can you even mistake my beg scribbles with his pro form, also do you have socials?
customized tiger tank
learned about fast and slow lines. i used to be in a rush every time i sketched, but it felt nice to slow down.studies from Proko stream
>>7985770if you want to use these for your portfolio, i recommend adding a human figure for scale
I am still not drawing fuck you.
>>7985776>learned about fast and slow linesFirst time hearing about these terms
>>7985700oh, you're a girl. that's cool to know
>>7985263nta how close should the boxes be in general
>>7985793doesn't matter
>>7985796really?
>>7985792There are no women here
>>7985785well, the way i understand it is that fast lines are quick and gestural. they are smooth and beautiful, but hard to control. if you overdo them, your sketches will have too many fault lines and a mess to look at without doing any cleanup.slow lines are more precise/ deliberate, but they can look rough. they're good for detail and a more thoughtful approach because you don't want your hand to move faster than your mind.it's good to be aware of and to pace yourself. doing many quick gestures made me think that that's how all drawings should be, so i developed a bad habit of rushing. but now, even when looking at other's art i can see that they drew slower, more deliberately, because their drawings look cleaner.
fuck outta the way permabeg rolling through
>>7985009How do I draw pretty gay boys like pic rel? Aside from copying obviously. What should I keep in mind while drawing them?
>>7985813>I keep in mind while drawing them?The image of you slobbering on his cock
>>7985405is that your character design?
another one for today
>>7985509>Great save, dude. If you haven't already, check out Sargent. There are so many things to learn from him.Yeah I looked up his charcoal portraits. They are almost exactly what I'm aiming for with these eventually so thanks for the recommendation. I will do some master studies soon.
>>7985700What did she mean by this?
>>7985874>What did she mean by this?You know what
>>7985859saved, like the armour but especially like the coat of arms.
>>7985859so how does the process go? giant block then you chip it down till the machines is done then detials?
>>7983851never done one of these before. spent a couple of hours on it.I need to draw more hands...
10 hours of "fun." I wish I could draw something normal.
IT'S STILL TOO HOT TO DRAWI HATE THE SUMMER
>>7985894No shot 10 layers of mindless "practice" took you 10 hours
>>7985755He doesn’t like anybody he ignored my work, too.
>>7985884thanks>>7985887i recommend drawing tanks from ref first, thats how i learned to understand the basic shapes. once youve done that its quite easy to tinker with them. big forms first, detail later, but i start with the wheels because those are hardest to get down in perspective. for the perspective construction i guess i do whats considered „freehand“ a lot, but you can probably easily construct it in a grid/box.
are you planning on making the new thread?
>>7985917no.
>>7985755>>7982207You're extremely talented and way above everyone here. That's S tier work right there. I'll admit tho, that I care more about your coom & weird stuff lol>>7985611Really? Thank you!!!!>>7985620Nice, it has a calming vibe>>7985681Neat little sketch!>>7985704p..pawell..?>>7985759I thought you were the same and that you were his high-pro level persona...I don't have any socials I only have an image-dump thread on /i/ here >>>/i/824791 tho, it is already sinking, so save what you can before it gets "archived".>>7985859TOP WORK as usual! I like how you painted that tank, it works really well to convey its three-dimensional volume, shape and mass. That's a problem that your renderings usually have, maybe this high contrast lighting can solve that for good.>>7985889This is the best rendition of that ref I think.
>>7985811keep drawing hxh jobbers>>7985927>I don't have any socialsi see, unfortunate
>5 hours doomscrolling on 4chan>5 minutes in Krita>0 drawings madeKill me
>>7985959what they did to him was horrible and could have happened to anyone
>>7985927>p..pawell..?voldemort type shit
cause im a creepi'm a weirdo
>>7986019You draw like an angelYour art make me cry
why is anime art everywhere?
>>7985889hail>>7985859sick tank
Does anyone have that infographic about artist levels?
niggas be doing anything except drawing
cause im a begim a ni
I want a perfect lineart..I want a perfect Sovl..
How do you address the flatness in your drawing?
>>7986043I draw every day, but I have no talent >>7985894
>>7986053I add anti-flatness everywhere except the chest area.
>>7984318Nice.
felt like absolute shit todayhopefully tomorrow will be better
>>7986057That is not drawing, that is line warm-ups spam.
Hello beg, i havent been here for a bit and i havent drawn for a bit. I become fake drawer or whatever. I did not give up or got broken, it is just i got different priorities. I know, lame excuse, but it is what it is.Currently looking for a wife, will plan using the selfie for tinder. Wish me luck, cause from the data i have seen, you need it a lot there.
>In the time it took Powell to draw permabegshit again TWO favelachads already came and went and started making it big with patreon bux and commsDEATHPILL
>>7985850my totally unique oc hammerina don't draw without permission>>7985759okay man I apologize. I see I annoyed you with my posts please don't bully, won't be bothering you>>7985811draw my wife theta>>7986076no way
>>7986076WWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
>>7986076>Currently looking for a wifePlease bro, think very carefully what you're about to do..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ydtBeW4bUY
>>7986076my king...
>>7986101lol dw about it, good stuff like usual
>>7986019>>7986030>>7986046>>7986049https://suno.com/s/afM9l2OAO7xFRYlP
was going to focus today on doing one drawing and rendering and such instead of doing quick doodles before taking a bathother things happened, so here are some quick doodles before I take a bath>>7986064in my experience, things do not get better
>>7986134looks kinda like me IRL but less fat in your drawing
>>7986136I didn't know men could look like that
>>7986136proof?
I look like this irl
>>7986151How many years have you been drawing again? Bit sad innit
>>7986076kino
>>7986153like one and a bit
I think that Paige is probably my favorite artist in this thread because it's always something interesting and visually compelling and it has a certain charm to it that makes me feel like he should have illustrated a shoujo manga in another life
>>7986156Yikes
Wonderful.
>>7986158who
>>7986158just say you want his nudes bro
>>7986158why not this life
>hey guys who's your favourite retard at the asylum
>>7986164not born in Japan in this one. however, I will say the skill actually isn't that big of a gap. there was many shoujo that were drawn by people who were not far beyond Paige in skill level back in the day. that's a part of the charm. Paige can make the gay guro version of Hot Gimmick
>>7986166have any social media? I think you have some of the best art that I've ever seen on this board and some of my favorite figures that I've ever seen and lines. if there's a way to look at more that would be amazing. I don't think I've ever felt real jealousy for an artist from this thread until this. so discombobulated line wise but so much form
Bebo bebo bebo bebo
>>7986167pedro, i want to suck her gock
>>7986174
>>7986034First day on 4chan? Living under a rock for the past 20 years?
>>7986183like generally
>>7986170That's so kind of you to say thank youI semi-regularly post in these places, it's mainly paintings but I could start posting drawings if you'd be interested I'm trying to branch out and find out if I can make something that has any valuehttps://hidlydd.com/blog/https://x.com/finlay_duffill
>>7986185man you're absolutely fantastic! I love your sketches so much. probably my favorite art that I've ever seen here, please post more figures.
>>7986171paaaige,your stuff hgas gotten better, keep it up>>7986166wowamazingplease do more like dis
>>7986185Also wanted to say I love the concept for your game - keep up the good work and I'll be on the lookout!
I CANT FUCKING DRAW!!!!!!
>>7986198this
how long do you have to lurk here before you learn people's names? It really feels like you niggers just make up characters and it's a joke at my expense.
>>7985528Made progress but not as much as I wanted to. Got a lot of life drawing done today at least.
I have mastered two-point perspective.
>>7986198Have you tried?
>>7986225Eventually you will accept the nature of the beast. This place is scattered with circle-jerking/discord tiny groups, some never heard of each other. Most stays for the summer and never come back, the lucky ones.
Is the Discord group in the room with us now?
>>7986231ACHAUTLLY, that is just the beginning of two-point perspective.
>>7983838continuing this one
>>7986076>this was not on my summer bingo card
>>7986185>find out if I can make something that has any valueyou must be stupid if youre not already monetizing your painting skill. you could easily exhibit at galleries and sell paintings for a living
okay I squeezed everything outta this character>>7986035forgot to give this one a (you) looks kino
>>7983838Pawell improved after not drawing for an year.Amazing!
I spent a couple hours on this one.Also just to be clear, am I supposed to be attempting construction techniques with this? because I havent been so far. I've just been trying to copy line for line since everyone said I can't do construction
QRD on Pawell?
>>7986249lurk moar newf4g
>>7986238Yes. I'm replying to it right now and looking at it right now. 0.0
>>7986076I wasn't going to post today, but the king is back!>>7986240sexy! great use of the lasso
>>7986231you can do it!>>7986239sex>>7986241sex
Today’s life drawings
>>7986254
>>7986185just reading your blog and your video game project interests me, bookmarked. But is it a deliberate choice to upload all your paintings as gifs for ants?Also I like Wales.
>>7986252no lasso used ty tho
>>7986247lol the left one is actually pretty solid, is this recent? I think there’s hope for him after all
>>7986259This one was so fucking hard but I understood ellipses better when actually looking up at them
>>7986076oh dear, don't look for a wife on tinder. no woman there is wife material. and they're not looking for a husband. It would help to have a bit self awareness. a notebook doodle of a balding man for profile screams manchild. as a married man, i will say this though, you don't need a woman unless you want children. and they will need more attention than any pet you ever had
>>7986263pyw.
>>7986248be more mindful of curves, you can see how the top of her hair got deformed in yours, or how the hair strands on each side of the neck got messed upalso be more careful with some of the lines and lineweights>am I supposed to be attempting construction techniques with this?I'd do a bit more accuracy first (and maybe try 2x2 grids) before bothering with construction, right now there are angles and placements that could still use some work
>>7986246performative silliness, so wacky, much wow
>>7986267sovlfullbut her left arm is either broken in 3 pieces or badly disproportionate (upper arm vs forearm)
>>7986266are you ok
>>7986267This is good work. Good values, perspective, and color. I also appreciate the way you did the background. Really solid anatomy too especially around the legs I think the biggest mistakes lie in the pose. If her head is facing that way then her legs should be facing another way, and if her legs are facing the way they are, the head should be facing different direction. I hope that makes sense
>>7986268here's a new concept for you: foreshortening
>>7986271it's not foreshortened: the sleeve would create an ellipse instead of a line if that were the case
>>7986271NTA but he's right, the left arm does look a bit off. Nice piece regardless.
>>7986270You might not be aware, but legs and head move independently of each other. try it yourself!
>>7986271>>7986276nigga i hope you arent the artist, that would be really embarassing.
>>7986259Yeah it is.
>>7986277kiss my ass
https://pawell2418.github.io/fvarking SOVL
>>7986268this is absolute normie-proof art ready for childrens books, no one normie will give a fuck whether he botchered the anatomy or didnt
>>7986267>>7986271>>7986276Uh oh, someone just blew in from reddits hugbox. You're not going to improve with that attitude, sis.
>>7986268I'm not really sure what you mean by in 3 pieces but thank you for advice :) >>7986277is not
>>7986276Based on your drawing and how the legs are oriented- she’s either flying upwards with the umbrella or downwards. Either way, she’d be looking up or down accordingly, so it doesn’t make much sense for her to be facing us. Imagine how much more interesting it would look if she was looking down at her legs with à surprised look or something, just he creative. Also the sarcasm is unnecessary were all just tryna help you be the best artist you can be
>>7986234YES AND EVEYRHTING IS FUCKING SHIT.
>>7986284>>7986282not me I'm getting trolled.. I really appreciate the advice anons
>>7986264Do you want a post of his wife or work?
>>7986287It takes 30s second to edit in or out the (you) in html I don't believe this
>>7986289lol I believe it. Why would he take the time to edit that
>>7986290;3c
>>7986282guy doesn't understand that getting your artwork ripped on is a sign anons think he isn't a hopeless retard. For autistic permabegs you just throw them a good goy (you) because that's the best they'll ever amount to anyway so there is no point in giving them a reality check.
>>7986283no prob, I also overlooked a form issue with her left leg, try to draw the cylinder that connects to the knee and you'll see that the leg is bending awkwardly towards us
>>7986267you're obviously doing something right because you appear to have activated a schizo crab.Colouring is really nice, couple of anatomy niggles, feels like it's fighting its own perspective a bit, i think there's a problem when you imagine the lower body and legs under the dress. Also the shadow on the face feels wrong to me, doesnt follow the contours of the face.
protip to get replies to your art: doublefalseflag as a falseflagger pretending to be you?
You guys are schizo as all get out lol>>7986161>>7986161Berry nice. tell me about the skelly, why does he do the T-pose?
I probably would have quit drawing if I thought you had to master everything. And a lot of the times, previous steps click when you move on. So if you think you kinda get it, a step later you'll go "oh I totally get that now." If you're not understanding it at all, don't move on, but if you're like "oh I kinda get it" then yeah you can move on.
>>7986168I'm working slowly on a vn, so there is hope one day I will improoovor rather everyday, just a little bit
>>7986308why do anime copiers always fuck up the jawline? not too bad tb desu, you consistently fuck up perspective/angle on the torso, and aren't putting the elements of the face in the right places. Look more closely. Have you tried lining your drawings up with the original and adjusting opacity to see where you've gone wrong?
>>7986309Because we are beginners who a) haven't yet trained spatial awareness and hand-eye coordination, andb) don't properly understand the underlying structure of drawing 3d shapes, we are just trying to draw the 2d shapes that we think we see. While learning shape and vehicle perspective autismo, it's nice to take a break and try drawing the things you actually like to keep you motivated
>>7986311Genuine question: why do you bother drawing something you don't want to draw? If you want to draw anime women then just draw them instead of doing exercises that you hate. Ultimately all the principles of understanding form and spacial awareness can be trained just the same on figure drawing with the upside of not making you want to neck yourself from boredom as you draw the nth cube
playing around with blender and the asaro head, it's interesting to see the amount of bounce light in the shadows as you move around the directional light
>>7983838I dont understand coloring/shading/rendering at all. How do i know what colors, opacity and tools to use and where. I feel like im going to end up making monochrome shit forever since this stuff melts my brain
>>7985811Draw ponzu
>>7986323depends on the result you want and what tools you like using. you develop a process that works for you with a lot of practice. the ctrl+paint videos explains the tools, then you can go through a digital painting course from an artist you like.
>>7986246ty. hammertoon funny
>>7986323a grayscale painting is a good starting pointhttps://youtu.be/rvtO7sBPFBo?t=338
>>7986265Yeah I could tell the hair in particular was off. I kept trying to get it right but I couldnt do it so I just got it "good enough" and decided to roll with it.
I AM PERMABEG. I AM FUCKING TIRED OF SEEING OTHERS PROGRESS MORE IN A FUCKING WEEK THAN ME IN YEARS.I AM FUCKING TALENTLESS. GOD MADE ME TALENTLESS TO LAUGH AT ME.
>>7986309i appreciate the feedback, but i think of these as sketches, loose and imperfect, but fun. i still observe the subject and make an effort, but this is how my eyes see. everyone got their own idea of what a study should be, and believe me i've done perfect copies in the past, i just don't have the patience for those anymore.>>7986311>>7986315not me. i only draw what i want ^_-
Have you guys noticed how extremely good everyone is compared to 4-6 years ago? Hardly any prebeg or low beg anymore.All thanks to shitting on women , owning the libs , shitting on the clique circlejerk and voting for trump. Never let grifters groom you, always feel bad about yourself and others.>>7986329I want to steal this.>>7986334Your front view looks fine already build more boxes, the down right body is the best one.
>>7986340PLEASE GIB TALENT.
>>7986341No talent.
>>7986344Practice without talent is a dead end.
>>7986331it's alright to move on if an honest effort was made>kept trying to get it right but I couldnt do ita tip for curves is to simplify them into 2 or 3 straight tangent/enclosing lines, and then turn those into a curve
>>7986339turns out these references are ai?
>>7986345Doing art without tits is also a dead end but we are not ready for that conversation.
>>7986340its kinda already stolen from ultraman or power rangers or someshit. no reference but yeh thats prolly where i bit the influence from.
>>7986315To get better at the stuff I want to draw Also so people don't bitch that my drawing looks wrong
>>7986336so trve how do we stop getting talentmogged
>>7986351uhm sweetie the term is sentai
>>7986361well here in the jolly old us of a we say it saban
>>7986344so this is the discord clique i heard about
>>7986076OH MY GOD!!!!!!!! Glad to see you around Pawell!>>7986267Very Wholesome piece! Nice rendering and details!Please don't take picrel as a redraw or a redline, I just wanted to draw something to celebrate Pawell's return. I like how fresh and sovlful your pic is, I just wanted to do a pretty quick version. Don't mind me.>>7986254Nice facial composition!>>7986247Usually you feel like that after a long pause, but it is a placebo effect. You can "truly improve" (learn new things) only by drawing. You're just in a better mental place when you restart drawing after a period of time, you feel refreshed, with lots of fuel in the tank. You really feel like you improved but you're just doing better what you already did "good enough". Pawell was in a really good spot when he stopped drawing. He was doing good stuff.>>7986189Mandatory (You)!>>7986171Nice!>>7986166Cool Collage!!!>>7986035Fucking great!>>7985959Your work is beautiful>>7985811Neat little piece!!!
I've been having fun drawing faces but I don't know what to do with hair, anyone got cool tips or ideas on how to go about it?
I havent posted a sketch here in a while. Take a super quick sketch from ref before i go to sleep ic>>7986375i need to do the bulk style practice one day but im too lazy. v impressive anon
>>7986386Thanks, I've found using a pomodoro timer app helps
>>7986375v gud eyeboall study>>7986377funkyy>>7986384i heard big shapes can be a gud way to go about it. instead of tryna draw like every hair.
>>7986390Yeah I heard the same thing about shapes here I think, hoping someone elaborates on that.
I haven’t finished a piece in weeks…
>>7986392i finished my first one basically in 6 months or so and even then it was extremly sloppy and lazily done
>>7985927i do not deserve your kidnes.... please.... >>7986101shes awesome i like her>thetaHoly... i .. kneel..
https://litter.catbox.moe/7nfy6zzwm6madmfc.jpeg
>>7986392block out the shapes and add strands for detail
>>7986315For me it's not about cubes but learning about the fundamental things I always ignored back in the day. Understanding that stuff is actually kinda valuable and will probably help me in the long run. I want to eventually invent my own poses and angles instead of mindlessly copying a reference, and I probably need to understand the underlying 3d framework a lot better instead of mindlessly copying 2d shapes.
>>7986402I think I see what you mean, have to draw more to get it right I guess. Thanks.
>>7986401too dark
>>7984972not much time to draw today, but at least I managed to draw one more
I don't want to die...
Challenge
I went out of my comfort zone and used more of my imagination and less references.
I’m not taking my sneakers off
>>7986415Ewwww
>>7986377this is the best drawing I've seen from you, nice work
>>7986022literally this meme
>>7986415why are women such whores?
>>7986428Fugetsu next onegai
I am following this korean artist who in his first week drawing already makes 3d appealing faces.I want to hurt. Why cant I learn
>>7986427Women are what men makes of them.
>>7986257There are full resolution versions of those paintings later on but due to my lacking prospensity for design I conflated articles to news articles in a magazine like the Private Eye where if they feature a color image they print it as a little postage stamp in the margins - I ought to have considered that unlike a newspaper words shouldn't take precedent over pictures, it's perhaps centring a contrivance before a picture gets an opportunity to act as an explanation for itself which is why I don't do that very often but in this case like the narrative intrigues in a video game I felt it would make the most sense for whatever reasonWales on the whole is a beautiful place to live and I know you didn't ask but Pembrokeshire in particular is getting dicked over by pointless investments in a tourism sector. In Haverfordwest there's several forever projects costing in excess of millions of pounds to demolish and build over existing historic structures to try and stimulate something the Pembrokeshire landscape is already predisposed to doing like attracting tourists at no benefit to the taxpayer or the average natural citizen either but rather because some dunces in the council are "hugely excited" about it and need to increasingly place it on a "sustainable footing". Then jobs get contested by people from across the entire country and local people can't find work contracts either so in some small sense atleast I need to relate my work to that because I'm part of the problem as a second generation citizen of a family hailing from Surrey
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!
>>7986434it's the asian jeans
>convince myself my art needs to be incredible before I can start doing art for my game>could probably get away with being just out of /beg/ territory
>>7986188>>7986191Thank you so much>>7986245I'm stupid as hell and an obnoxious faggot which is a death sentence when it comes to marketing paintings to be honest but I appreciate your encouragement>>7986298Skellingtons are my substitute for human figures in most of my work I want to say it's partially as an aid to allegory but it's also in large part for a lack of technical ability. T-posing wasn't exactly what I had in mind but if my ideas are communicated poorly that's on me. Agoraphobia or fear is what I was trying to instil in the figure. Just an illustration for the game of course but I held several questions in my mind like what does adhering to a million different theories of value and there is no objective fiscal standard entail psychologically once government is on a domestic level and does consumerism and reticence from other people increase/decrease. I'm of the belief that it would affect people with different predispositions drastically in each direction, some people would become entirely ingrained in the feedback loop of a fabricated consumer culture others might become militant and entirely atheistic to cultural experience perhaps this could be a contrast between both of those personalities
>>7986428hell yeah thank you king!! my wife that WILL survive the succession war arc
>>7986449nigga you can be permabeg and still be successful
gundam sazabi
>>7986449this is /int/ which means its /pro/ to untrained normies and if your art is going to be erotic in general then its going to be /advpro/ to normies because gooners are too busy pulling on their atrophied microclitties to scrutinize an odd angle arm so congrats, if you make some porn itch.io game you're literally on track to the patreon porn game dripfeed scheme heaven
>>7986455that face is not /int/
>>7986436Why do women blame everything on men? Why can't they take responsibility?
>>7986460they think blaming someone else will absolve them
>>7986430no>>7986449>interesting pose>polishedyoure int nigga, slap on a bg of similar quality and you're lowadv
>>7986471>>7986465>>7986428Cute!!
originally by RHiNEi need to put in the work today and practice
>>7986076My fuarking hero Pawell...M-my lord...thank you for coming back to us...
>>7986476sexo
>>7986248Use more straight lines to control the drawing. They're easier to track and more definitive. For an exercise like this, you're focus probably shouldn't be to copy every mark. Rather it's to take note of the placement of a good portion of the major marks. It'll save you a good chunk of time I reckon.
you dont get to call yourself adv by adding more shit to your image, by the way. If anything you should take shit out of images to raise your power level.
>>7986480who are you replying to
>>7986449>>7986482the faggots under here
thoughts
>>7986486wtf mecha hitler
>>7986485jesus christ brainlets just shouldnt make art guidesentire video could've been 1 minute, he's just drawing the shadows, thats itI would say "you dont need talent to draw if this retard learned it" but truth is he's a xerocopier so he probably doesnt know how to draw either
(its hinduist symbolism)
I spent almost 3 fucking hours on this shit.How the fuck did I spend 3 fucking hours on this shit?Can practicing like this really improve my painting skills?
>>7986495what was your goal with this piece?
>>79864951. use bigger brush strokes, think brush economy (look up ahmed aldooris painting course)2. limit your palette, dont worry about gradients for now3. set a time limit of max 30 minutes4. don't be a perfectionist, it's the number of paintings you do that makes you betteryou could have done 6 paintings instead of just 1 within those 3 hours.
>>7986493Do not redeem!
>>7986495Don't listen to nodraws who tell you that you need to copy reference 1 : 1. You decide what part of it you want to study and ignore the rest.That said, drawing shadows instead of every detail would be quicker and it's the way pros would approach it
>>7986449Yeah if this is your average level of quality I’d say that’s /int/. It’s not /pro/ but you could get away with making a game out of this
>>7986495Bottom looks nice, what's the issue?If you tried to do a copy of the photo you failed, I guess?
>>7986449Why did she dislocate her femur
>>7986498Can you draw the guy on the bottom raping her?
>>7986517i'm feeling the form
>>7986517suckable nipplesneed to see her getting cumflated by a futa doe.
Remember to take breaks, friends. If you aren't having fun drawing, you aren't going to lose all your skills you've built up studying and practicing because you took a small break. Go do something else to clear your mind because, in the end, we're all doing this for fun :)
>>7986525>in the end, we're all doing this for fun :)ummt i want to make money from this
>>7986526I make more than enough to live comfortably just with commissions and I still draw for fun, and I still take breaks.
>>7986455int is an exaggeration, you have anime blindness
>>7986525positive attitude never sounds authentic. i know you are crying on the inside
>>7986525im gonna kill you faggot
tips on hulking bodies?
>>7986527nice, but i dont draw porn. i need to actually make it
>>7986495You're getting lost in details before you've made the biggest and simplest statement. Squint more too, it helps to reduce the complexity of shapes when painting. Move from the most general shapes down to specific ones. Notice in pic related I ignored all the windows.>>7986525This is true. I haven't drawn consistently in months. While my hard skill hasn't improved, concepts that I understood have matured. Even after a 2 year long hiatus, I find I'm hardly worse for wear.>>7986530dew it.
>>7986533I don't draw porn either, anon. Genuinely all you have to do is go out of your bubble and search for some niche. I've been making a shit ton of money by going into those RP discord servers and offering to draw people's OCs. There's this guy who has paid me 500+ usd so far to draw his characters. Ofc, not everyone will pay that much, but 20 bucks for every drawing does stack up pretty quickly.
>>7986498>3. set a time limit of max 30 minutes>4. don't be a perfectionist, it's the number of paintings you do that makes you better>you could have done 6 paintings instead of just 1 within those 3 hours.holy crab>>7986525>meaningless platitudes™ the post
>>7986525>take breaks
>>7986525doki..
>>7986525
>>7986532come on, anything?
hulk smahs
>>7986544We don't have barafags here, only twinkfags
>>7986547just the posing
>>7986532>>7986544this is a thread full of pedophiles that just want to draw children in an anime style, you're not gonna get much help
>>7986555can (You) help?
>>7986557how much bigger do you want it to be? i would suggest you need to redraw it at a larger scale especially the legs since despite the perspective you're going for on them they're still quite small
>>7986555shut up nigga
>tfw painting is finally starting to click for meall that studying wasn't in vain, I feel blessed and grateful
>>7986555We have a general for that actually
>>7986559damn thanks but he looks puffy right?
>>7986558not bigger, just want it to look good and dynamic
>>7986562>no work posteddelirium post, see you tomorrow>>7986566puffy?
>>7986568like the muscles look like clouds almost
still experimenting with painting
>>7986570maybe its the brush? does this look better?
>>7986578this looks greathow do you do that?
>>7986572very wonky compared to your usual stuffbut good effort putting the cast shadows
>>7986579do what
>>7986581the whole thing, been trying to draw muscles for a while now and as you can see they still look trash, not always but still
>>7986076>Currently looking for a wife, will plan using the selfie for tinder.Don't forget to link the Tinder profile here, King. I'm sure someone here could wingman you.
>>7986586make them more geometrical
>>7986498guy on the bottom is peak sex
>>7986590by using perspective points?
>>7986592by using... sigh... construction
What /beg/ level is this?
>>7986498please draw more crab chans
You fags are confusing me, as a beginner, is it better to:>draw more but less quality>draw less but more quality?
>>7986595Well... /beg/ level..
>>7986595/beg/ core, but not pre-/beg/ or worse, no /draw/
>>7986598none of us /beg/s knows and the /pro/s /int/s and /gmi/s won't divulge their secrets
>>7986600Yeah but there are tiers
>>7986598both, a mix of high effort and high volume drawings>>7986603not reallybeg is beg, even int is a kind of a copeforget autistic labels and draw
>>7986603Probably a 2.5, between low and mid /beg/
>>7986605when was this chart made and what level /beg/ was it made by
>>7986607>when was this chart madeBefore you were even a twinkle in your fathers eye and a cell in his sack>what level /beg/ was it made by>he doesn't knowA /beg/ couldn't create a chart that clean and visibly pleasing. At most a /beg/ would have used some MSPaint tier scribbles with wojak reaction images randomly placed around.
>want to draw>cannot think of what to draw>zero energy at all>know I won't be able to do anything aside from unfocused scribblesit's so overhow do you recover the energy and drive
>>7986594so boxes? i did
>>7986610I don't need 'energy' or 'drive' to take a showerdrawing should be the same, just a thing you do
>>7986611show me
>>7986614in the sketch itself, before drawing the body, it was boxes, i erased the corners ad those parts as you do
>>7986604>beg is beg, even int is a kind of a cope>if you're not chad it's over bro!
>>7986613I don't really think drawing and taking a shower are comparable from the standpoint of creativity, anontaking a shower is pretty passive too, whereas drawing is active
>>7986616then draw it again and show me
>>7986623ok
>>7986605this is just describing realism basicallyand that gook-owned faggot is the same, he just jerks off to art that looks like 3d bnw renders
>>7986623>>7986624i inked the boxes
>>7986632the limbs are the part you fucked up, not the torso, you have to get used to drawing everything as a form, the limbs and even the muscles on top of it arent just lines they're 3d objects
>>7986634ok so torso is good, what should i do with the limbs? tubes?
>>7986635i can see with this drawing that you actually did try to use forms on the arms and legs, so all thats left is your hole in knowledge about anatomy, i condemn you to learning where each muscle in the human body starts and ends, the structure of every joint, the shape of every bone and the range of motion for every joint (relaxed, active, forced), and dont forget to learn how proportions work (good luck because basically everyone is wrong about how they work). also refer to post >>7948996Also gesture = every part of the body is assisting one action, if you make the limbs all position themselves for unknown reasons its gonna look wrong
>>7986643thanks, yes i need to bone up(lol) on anatomy but i thought the gesture was good, i thought at least
>>7986610you either rely on your memory or construction of simple shapes or your habits to begin a new drawingor you just pick a reference and go nuts
>>7986634outline of 3D objects is a line. your issue is you want to see more indication lines (or shading) to show depth. that is not the same as not drawing forms. depth in a drawing is just an illusion and you're complaining that you haven't been fooled, dum dum
>>7986412warming up
What are good courses to learn eyes mouth and nose shits
>>7986659this shit is wrong. no one sleeps with glasses, they can easily break and cut up your face also, the body pillow is missing seams, as it is now it looks like a sausage.you also messed up her torso, it's too longyou need to draw more cubes before you attempt something like this ever again
>>7986662how autistic do you wanna go senpai>>7986665good morning mr crab
>>7986453gundam the-o
>>7986669Max autizim
>>7986656not him, so how do i fool em?
>>7986076>>7986076>>7986076>>7986076YOOOOO LETS FUCKING GOOOOOO. I SAVED YOU YOUR CROWN, KING.>>7985681Thank you, friend. You stay strong as well.
>>7986672say no more, my nigga tomfox is the one for you
>>7986665>her
>>7986666Good save. Digits almost went to a faggot
>>7986666futa cumflation etc..
>>7986453>>7986493>>7986572>>7986671hell yeh>>7986578nice shmeat
>>7986689this but unironically
Is this the last /beg/ thread or something? Chop chop, OP!
>finish adding colors and shadows>see anatomical or perspective mistakethis is why my drawings take 1000 years to finish and look stiff
>>7986605What are "the fundamentals?"
>>7986701being a tradchad teaches you to roll with mistakes and move forwardgive it a try
>>7986699We must reach 1000 replies.
>image limit reachedCool. Guess it's going to be another five hours before faggot OP makes a new one.
>>7986703Idk "loomis and perspective" or something
Ok I am making a new thread
>>7986703line, shape, perspective/form, value/color, and compositionsome people also add anatomy (in the general sense of knowing about the subject you're drawing)
>>7986674refer to posts >>7939083 >>7939091
I beg you all not to make a new threadHelp me to kill this
It's over, this is the last /beg/ thread
>>7986656stfu nigga seriously
>>7986714You'd better pick my drawings or else
>>7986714You'd better pick my drawing or else
Set us free
>>7986723You didn't say I'm wrong because I'm not wrong. You just don't like that I made you look stupid
>>7986731i didnt even read your post nigga i just vibed it from the first few words and no work posted
>image limit alreadywhat the FUCK!
>>7986715Kind of a bullshit scale then, as /beg/ should not go for value, color, and composition studies. Shading, coloring, and composing require other fundamentals first, so they themselves are not fundamentals by any means. If we are creating retarded scales, then /int/ is where I expect to see efforts in learning color theory, rendering, and some compositions.Perspective, line/shape accuracy, negative space, and form are true fundamentals.
>>7986736>as /beg/ should not go for value, color, and composition studieswhy nota beg can definitely make use of those early on (especially value and composition)value does not mean rendering either, simply stating areas of light and shadow is enough to begin with>Perspective, line/shape accuracy, negative space, and form are true fundamentals.you might be proyecting your own preferences or priorities over something more general
>>7986719i can't
>>7986746>you might be proyecting your own preferencesNope, that is precisely the fundamentals taught by any master.
>>7986508She's sexier that way. Sacrifices must be done to satisfy their masters, (us).
>>7986757which masterbecause bargue starts off copying shapes and adding valueand basic composition strategies can be covered in a couple of pages or simply by observing art
>>7986515I don't think the original artist is posting anymore. I know Peril came up with that Crabby design but "he" don't "do" the lolis
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>>7986754Use the archive dumb nigga like fuck
