we love catgirls and elves editionIf you are a /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.DO NOT REPLY to crabs, nodraws, over-analyzing schizos, retards that whine about how hard drawing is or talent debates and instead focus on posted works!>Post Your Work>STICKY:New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0QHardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?viewHardcore (working link): https://hackmd.io/@ArtStudies/rJxNW6aonHardcore (wayback archive):https://hackmd.io/@0uRfwdEoRDiHFz9wibb5sA/ry8nyys6-lCompleted(short):https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jUeG8UTwDAK8WGC4f79IlBGIAGVipfHvo48RF5Xgxyc (sus discord server don't join)Completed: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vm4IJpq0Mbvb-Krl5_mJ_m6TsC_qjsaN/vieww/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/>WHERE to get study materials>>>/ic/artbook>>>/ic/video>Want to practice figures?quickposes.comcharacterdesigns.comlovelifedrawing.composemy.artline-of-action.com>best art teachersGlenn VilppuMichael HamptonSteve HustonBrent EvistonMarco BucciAndrew LoomisGeorge BridgmanHikaru HayashiHide Sensei>best art booksKeys To DrawingDrawing With the Right Side of the BrainHow To Draw Comics the Marvel WayThe Art and Science of DrawingFramed PerspectiveFigure Drawing For All It's WorthThe Complete Guide to Drawing From LifePrevious thread: >>7999797
Do you have to draw to make it into the collage? This is fucking bullshit. Fuck you faggot fuckers in your gay ass buttholes I hope your dicks get covered in shit and blood and cum and then you have to lick it off. Homos.
>another clique opim so sick of this shit
thread challenge
>>8002844There’s is no clip you just suck
clique bros, we are so back
I CANT FUCKING DRAW. I WANT TO DRAW BUT I AM PERMABEG TRASH.
>3 my imagesbased. but should have used egg instead of lame twin tail
>>8002837lovely OP :33>>8002844>clique>almost no one of the ''clique'' is in thereseethe
draw this
i think my style locks me out of progressing at this stage and the only way to get actually better is to learn to draw in a different style
patiently waiting for the coomer challenge
Magnetic rose screenshot studies
I dont want to inflate the retard above's ego so let me clarify that I dont identify with any of the usual things that come with this kind of postI dont want to draw, I just want to fucking dieGo to the local church and pray for me to get a fatal heart attack
I don't know who the clique is but none of my drawings made it so I'm pretty mad at whoever they are.>>8002874>running defense for the cliqeufags
How do I join the clique btw I’m not on discord so I can’t be groomed again
>>8002845sucks
>>8002835
draw one of these instead for some expression training. draw all of them for extra challenge.
Coomer challenge
>>8002886
Fucking finally lined (poorly) new attempt to shade incoming>>8002905based challenge
>>8002874I wonder who The Clique is.
>>8002837Uhh ent
>>8002896this was fun
>>8002919apparently its me,(wukong anon) peril, deersis, and appealanon,
>>8002845fast challie>>8002879Here, everything is coomable>>8002874Clique broh-fist hee-hee>>8002914Cool compo with the weapon in the middle!>>8002894I knew it! I knew the ref would have a dress with some puffy shoulders on top. That does a trick on the eyes, makes look her upper torso being placed higher than it should.>>8002881SAVED>>8002920Cool>>8002921HA HA Well done!
How do I make people here like my art
>>8002925draw appealing stuffyou know how to do that, right?
>>8002926Apparently not
>>8002837>didn't put my boxes in the collageThe clique is fucking afraid.
>>8002924hihihihhi bro fisty back!and thanskies ehehnice elf girl >333
>>8002925Are you talented like the brazilians here? If not then good luck.
>>8002924Nice and simple, I like it
Any advice on painting skin in an aesthetically pleasing way? Should I maybe get a textured brush or change my approach in some way?
>>8002937so farking talented bro im gonna coom
>>8002938not the same reference but similar and soulkino
>>8002937Is it true that you have been drawing for only nine (9) days?
>>8002937I think there's a bit too much contrast / value range in the lights, seehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_E1ARR_AAg
does it makes any sense or mega retarded?
>>8002944post a higher res then maybe I can evaluate
>>8002944why is the resolution so low
>feel like shit for making bad art>lurking art learning subreddits>come across guy with similar negative doomer attitude>except he's a schizo caricature of my thoughts>belly laugh at his profile>feel more motivated than everI needed to have a mirror held up to me like that. It's just drawings.
>>8002944kinda retarded, somethings weird
>>8002944I think the original bust worked more as a top down view, but the extension as a front view lower body mismatches it (or makes it bend weirdly)
>>8002947>>feel like shit for making bad artWhy? Why do begs treat lack of skill as a moral failing?
>>8002943I'll watch that again. It's been a while. Thanks.>>8002942Nine hours actually.
>>8002947>>8002953Because you fucking talented rats will never know what it feels like to be permabeg and never make something good. This is just like richfags not understanding why poors starve.
>>8002947lowk worried u found my profile
>>8002953People tend to attach their self worth to things like art skill because it is very personal and representative of their aesthetics and personality.
>>8002950>I think the original bust worked more as a top down viewI tried to account for it when I did drawing, but I wasn't able to pull it off or lost the plot. I tried to made up broken lower body to the broken upper body for fun, but it turned out way too silly.
>>8002837hello, recomend me some books or cheat sheets about line weighti'm a retard so simple pleasesecondary someone here told me to learn how to draw with whole armby whole arm did people mean palm on tablet or only tip of pen on tablet?also should i put some foil over my tablet? the lines are smoother that way but i usethank you
>>8002958Are you 3030minecrafter?
>>8002954How does it feel to be so talented? I am in awe.
>>8002953>people on here crab you and want you to feel bad about your art>wtf, why do i feel bad about my art?
>>8002967nope
>>8002944If biologic woman, excellent. If not, awful.
>>8002973why would you even assume it isnt one? are you a faggot?
>>8002968Am I? I feel like there are tons of people here that are much more skilled than I am.
>>8002976have you ever asked them how many years they have been drawing
>>8002976>humble gimmickWink, wink.
>>8002968>>8002977he meant he spent 9 hours on that one drawing, it's not his first time. that would be stupid
>>8002947>It's just drawingsSome of us need to make a living. Some of us don't have the talent to coast off ghosting dozens of stockholm syndromed clients for years on end. We have to work hard and it's demoralizing when we're not rewarded for our efforts with any scrap of art gains or rent money. But sure they're "just drawings" bro keep living in your bubble
>>8002976>Humble bragging this muchFucking talented fuck SHUT UP.
>>8002937I love your art, but you're over complicating your painting.It's literally just finding and making up simples shapes. You don't need to make a thousand different strokes to blend the skin, use a primary flat color, then block in basic flat shapes on top of the base color, make a new layer and use a soft brush to blend the softest areas of the body like the breasts.
just know i'm laughing at you talentless tardsi only come here to laugh and mog you
>>8002980It was an unfunny joke. I've been drawing for nine months, give or take.>>8002977Not really. I kind of just admire people that are good, doesn't really matter how long they took to get there. It's cool to know some people find that I have some level of aptitude for art though.
Soft round only today, already miss the airbrush but I'm seeing bad habits exposed w/out it. >>8002924Thank you, excellent elves as always m8>>8002944Maybe add a gradient shadow to the legs to make it feel more like it's below her in scene? Fantastic otherwise no notes.
>>8002985Alright, gotcha. Yeah you're totally right, I often seem to do this thing where I autistically hammer at a problem with the same approach for hours. I think I need to just redo it in a simple manner and evaluate it again, like you did. Thanks man.
>>8002929THANKS MONKA!>>8002931Thank you so much anon! Have another elf qt!>>8002928I'm still kinda sad that my Snake Peril was not chosen for the collage ToT>>8002944Looking freaking good so far!>>8002976There's people less skilled than you here, treat them as you wanna be treated =)>>8002947Once you realize that these are only ephemeral scribbles in the virtual air that won't mean nothing to no one, then you're mentally free to draw stupid shit and fail non-stop till you get good at some point. >>8002968We are just normal people!>>8002988Thank you fishman! I love the arm on the girl on the left, specially her elbow!
>>8002987Oh my god nine fucking months — I am shitting the pants at your fucking talent sir.
How do I know I should give up trying? After how long should I allow to wallow as beg before drop?
>>80029963 years of full-time effort
>>8002987>9 months>Perfect anantomy and perspective and appealing musclegirlsMy niggas grater, raxav, gacha, powell and brownlines never stood a chance.
>>8002993>weNot you!
>>8002996>>8002998>>8002994This nigger got way better than everyone else in 9 months. We have had faggots here post for years and have a solid decade on them who are nowhere close to this favela lurking talented fuck.>3 yearsIf you dont have talent no fucking amount of time will save you. Better reroll and hope your next life you are born talented.
>>8002993Seeing her butchered into delicious meat pieces.
>>8003003You first, faggot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TA9PYkqvib4
i could use some advice on how best to approach shading/detailing the main building here so it looks like brickwork. top looks like sheet metal, and bottom looks noisy and shit to me. i feel like there might be a halfway house between these two but i don't know if i'm even taking the right approach>>8002993i'm enjoying your tiddy elfs
Are we really going to have another threadwide meltdown?
anyone who treat art as a kind of race is fucking retarded and deserve all the suffering and anxiety they get from it>>8003008good to see some pixel art in this generalnot sure how to shade or detail the structures but I would try to hue shift some more, the overall composition is quite boring color-wise.maybe try to throw stained glass on the structures to give it some color and add some light rays to make it pop a bitlooking forward seeing it finished
ok I need some help.I used Krita to make this and my brush work is kind of bad.How do I make things not so muddy? All the brushes look like wet marker and I'm clearly not used to digital painting whatsoever.I gave up at a certain point and used this chalk texture thing so I could give it a painterly feel instead but I failed and it looks amateurishAre there any good tutorials on brush work?Yes I'm sure I also need to work on some other things. I'll probably need to segment my values a little better next time but I sort of know what direction to go with that
>>8003012Fuck you faggot you’re gay
>>8003007how many more months for marc to learn how to draw shoulders properly?
>>8003015Love the seethe you salty bitch.>>8003014This is beyond /beg/. I don't think anyone here is as good at painting as you currently are.
>>8003018>I don't think anyone here is as good at painting as you currently are.lollmao
>>8003019In the /beg/ threads?
>>8003018Umm isn’t our talentGOD here?
>>8003000im killing myself!!!!
I'm sooooo fucking slow at making artworklike I can spend 3-4 hours just on the sketch/lineart and then multiple hours on coloring and then a fuckload of hours on rendering AND THEN a couple of hours of finishing touches
>>8003024sounds normal, art takes timemaybe find a better process for coloring / flats, it shouldn't take hours if the drawing is tidy
>>8003013sound advice, i'll see what i can come up with, cheers
>>8003000>Perfect anantomy and perspectiveNot even, and there's still everything that's left.
>>8002967>References are for pussies and if I can't learn basic add anstomy or how to draw the most amateur basic EASY AND SIMPLE POSES I'll never be able to do any actually good art... Not like I could ever anyways.There really is no such thing as being permabeg. It's your choice to waste time believing this shit, no one is irrecoverably born ngmi.His art isn't even that bad too, he just needs to stop listening to nodraw crabs/trolls. He fell into the normie trap of believing all artists pull art from thin air, when drawing from imagination is not some reliable filter that decides whether you can be an artist or not. I thought this was a child but he's an accountant, it's sad to see adults allowing art insecurity to wreck their mental health. No other hobby (besides maybe music) has this maturity issue, you don't cry, break things and want to kill yourself because your first batch of cookies sucked or you didn't spot a rare bird right away, you need to nurture yourself and treat your failed attempts as experiments to learn from.
>>8003024Clearly the bottleneck of your process is the sketch-lineart (4 hours). I think the sketch part should be fastest part of the process. Getting lost in all of these processes: 4 hours on sketch/line, fuckload of hours on rendering and more hours on final retouching, is insane. When you should be putting ALL of that effort in just drawing. Stay in the sketch phase and live there. All of the rest will become automatic once you are able to just draw whatever you want with ease and high speed.>>8003023I forgot her tail! Cool monster girl design!>>8003008COOL! Will you add some of the pillars of the bridge?>>8003004I was thinking how to do that without getting in trouble here, but I preferred to play it safe at the end lol>>8003002>Not you!T---T>>8002936CUTE!>>8002937Maybe just use the soft round brush at low opacity to do subtle gradients?
>>8003046>Will you add some of the pillars of the bridge?nah, shit's busted
tried something
>>8003036>There really is no such thing as being permabeg.It’s easy to say that when you have talent. You didn’t waste six years achieving absolutely nothing. I’m sure you had fun and drew whatever you wanted from day one.
>>8003036Not him but to speak for myself I spent so much time learning the theory of drawing (I'm a cel animation sperg) before ever doing the practical work so when I finally picked up a pencil I felt born ngmi cause I should know better after years of absorption. I know in my head my anatomy/shading/perspective/flow etc is wrong but I can't translate it to my hand co-ordination to just do it right based on the principles and guides I've read it's so frustrating how much muscle memory plays a part but after a few months I don't hate myself I fully accept I gotta experence the learning curve to catch up to the level my brain is at :)
Shading done, not super happy but moving on
>>8003054Good shit. I'm referencing this if you don't mind.
>>8003046whoa tysm cherishing this forever!!>>8003054inspirational rendering..
>>8003057you can fake shadows but not that much, as you start losing formI assume your light source is coming from the top right, so a lot of the areas under the tits should be under their cast shadows, as well as whole planes that face leftdraw the light direction 3d arrow or a light probe sphere to remind yourself of which planes should be in light and which in shadow
>>8003036>I've been at it for more than 10 daysHe's trolling and you fell for it
>>8002837>didnt make it in againCan the cliquemongrel explain this? Wasnt i part of the clique?>>8002844
>>8003065yeah i have not been in there for a couple threads either, we must both have been thrown out
>>8003065watch your words anon, the clique has powerful friends in high places
>>8003018No you seethe retardo
>>8003070>n-no uFuck off nodraw.
This thread was much better when I was the main character
>>8002947>redditgo back
>>8003003Favela dwellers are free from Jewish tricks so they don't have undo a lifetime of brainwashing before they can start to learn to draw what they see
>>8003071How do you know?
>>8003062The idea was to have the light coming from top right and behind the camera, but you're right I'm noticing not even that is registering w/ the faces correctly, gonna fix it.
>>8003082Damn, so my drawing abilities as an Argentine are currently getting hexed? it's so over.
>>8003054t-talented rat
This page was a struggle
>>8003078...
>>8002896fun challenge, I only managed a couple though>>8002881>>8003099great pencilwork, I'm always in awe of tradchads
>>8002837>made it into the opit's over
>>8003116great
35 and picked up drawing as a hobby a couple months ago. just 20, 30 minutes a day. can't figure out why everyone i draw ends up looking emaciated. also can't figure out how to draw muscles. i assume i just keep drawing little by little each day and things will improve.also all the drawings in this thread don't seem like beginners work to me sheesh.
>>8003116just apply for work at Star Citizen already
>>8003106Thanks anon! Nice job on the expressions, I can never make front facing angles work well because of symmetry
>>8003119
>>8002896
study
>>8003103Criminally underrated post.
>>8003062Think I somewhat fixed it.
>>8003144are they meant to be statueswhy are their breasts so largewhy are they so close to each other
>>8003086>Argentine are currently getting hexed? it's so over.I lost money on those FAGS. The game was fixed. Spain played third class tier shit the whole tournament, and suddenly on the final Messi forgot how to play football. lmao. Fuck that shit.
>>8003146Multiply layer to figure out the values before adding colors, The other two questions I feel are pretty evident
>>8003150no offense why do people love turning cool shit to generic anime stuff?
>>8003151why do you sell your body to middle aged men
>>8003153i said no offense geez
>>8003155you’re a faggot (no offense)
>>8003156oh come on
>>8003150idgi are they necrons? like the race of entirely metal composition? why would they have breasts?
>>8003151Idk it's kinda fun>>8003158Because the requestor and I wanted to see em if they had big tiddies
>>8003161>see them with breastsbut anon you full on turned them to anime girls you are not seeing them with breasts you are seeing anime girls cosplaying as them
>>8003162Fair point, next time I'll get them to commission me for a more faithful r63
>>8003163gross
>>8003164pyw
>>8003161cinema
Progressing on light/shadow studies.You motherfuckers could have told me there were formulas. I was starting to believe the /nodraws/ crying about lack of talent. Stop hiding your secrets, /adv/ anons.
>>8003172no, arcade
>>8003173formulas?
warhammer is so fucking gay. literally made for the emasculated and cucked males with depleted levels of testosterone to feel any ounce of masculinity.
>>8003150I didn't realize you wanted to paint metallic formsright now you're rendering them as if they were dielectric surfaces, check this video outhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5m9wrEY-mM
>>8003177I can’t stress this enough but I do not care what you think about anything.
>>8003185cared enough to reply which clearly means you do. stay mad.
>>8003163it's not r63, they weren't male in the first place they're sexless robots
>>8003191The rest looks good but the eye on our left is way too far left.
>>8003176I think anon is refering to halfway to black
>>8003148If it was rigged it's only gonna be known 10 to 20 years after everyone retires or some shit.
>>8003148the falklands banner mightve been the reason they were forced to loose or be banned from the next tournament or somesuch. but thats just speculation. the goal statistics are really off, which makes it seem they actually didnt even try
Time to finish up and move on from this one.>>8003178Ah dang, just saw this, I'll apply it to the next time I shade metallics thank you for the vid>>8003191Nice lines anon
>>8003003>you dont have talent no fucking amount of time will save youit really isnt talent, its how your brain evolved and how much information you can retain and apply. if youve always been a lazy good for nothing, things will stay that way. old dog new tricks etc. some of the dwellers here are clearly mentally challenged, its no surpirse they dont evolve.
>>8003226I think you're the guy who drew Cirno here once or twice right? Got a blog?
>>8003226begone, /adv/nigger
>>8003213Today shit happens faster and faster. Lies don't last a day. I don't think big cats up there care, they are too powerful and just grab what's on the table without any shame, they don't give a fuck. This is the first time that the betting system has been officially and legally embedded into a world event of this caliber. That final match must have been the biggest heist in human history.>>8003221I believe that, because of what I said above, they were lured into doing the flag thing. "Someone" planted the flag there, and they went along with it. That was needed to have an excuse up the sleeve to blackmail them. The team could be sanctioned or even expelled from the tournament (at least the ones involved in the flag action). It was too much money on the table, it was a planned thing. Maybe what we won't know is how much money on bets changed hands on that match, but we already know it was rigged. No doubt.
>>8003198Exactly.
>>8003229based permabeg
>>8003103he horsed around too much>>8003134nice c:>>8003226i want to lick the lines
>>8003103This scene from Godfather messed with me
Drawing a bit then I have a bottle of pinot noir ready to drown my permabeg blues
>>8002947/beg/s and schizo are great motivation for what not to become
>>8002837Today’s anatomy practice
Anybody got a nice source for a ton of individual body parts that one could study?I think it'd be easier to learn if i broke it down instead of trying to draw the whole body all the timePretty please
>>8003255begone, /adv/nigger
>>8003273literally any anatomy book out there
>>8003273Yea like the other anon said any anatomy book.
>>8003275>>8003276Any preferences? At work and i possess no free will either
>>8003277Paul Richer is a personal favorite of mine. https://archive.org/details/physiologieartis00rich/page/107/mode/thumbhttps://archive.org/details/nouvelleanatomie02richhttps://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Anatomie_artistique_(Paul_Richer)This is the anatomy book I’m currently going through, borrowed it for a friend that wants to become a massage therapist. It’s where I got the ref for >>8003271But in all seriousness you can just go to the nearest library or book store and get a good anatomy book as there are literally countless out there. If that’s not feasible google also exists.
>>8003198>>8003246halfway to black is just a quick approximationyou should learn how light actually falls offDorian Iten covers it wellhttps://www.dorian-iten.com/shading-mistakes/
>>8003189Fair point
>>8003281halfway to black is a way to determine shadow values based on common ambient light setupslamberts cosine does not tell you anything about the value in the shadows due to ambient light, it's only about the region in the lightyou need both
>>8003255>topMake those things reach the floor.
>>8003103LMAO I love this
>>8003281halfway-to-black is just a small part of "how to render" (Scott Robertson). It also covers perspective of light and all that.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>8003288>>8003295Yeah you guys are right. Light falloff made a lot of stuff click for me so I probably over-emphasize it.
biting off more than I can chew, but that's fine. Super fun. The anon's design in the previous thread was amazing>>8003106Great job. The background adds so much to the illustration.>>8002905repost>>8003282this reminds me of galactus in dexters Laboratory. great job.
i know you all hate my drawings but i tried the technique where you enclose everything in boxes and i feel like it made my grasp of the figure and pose stronger than usual.
Struggling w/ construction in perspective still.Gonna sleep on it and probably redo it later. >>8003310Cute!>>8003316lmfao completely forgot about dial M for monkey and the accompanying shorts. Thanks m8.
>>8003320that's a strange use of a perspective gridthe setup you have with the 3 points is for looking up at a building, but the cube and figure is being looked down on
>>8003325Yeah I'm still fairly new to the grid and barely have a clue what I'm doing. Scene's idea is to be looking down on her flying above a battlefield Trying to push myself by using it but figuring it out still.
>>8003310I was listening to this song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yj9wDzq6Gmkwhen I saw your pic and I saw something really cool, A 90s OVA's action thriller, she's a biker girl who got CLIQUE'D. Now she has to survive the deadly LOLZY dance of the Dark Clique of evil motherfuckers.. She will kill them all or die trying...>>8003106Coooool!!!>>8003116Fucking cool as always! Maybe the middle fin could have some extra detail or graphic to avoid the "double fin" effect with the one in the back>>8003134Really nice! I wanted to say that is really cool, but I said it twice already. Ah fuck it. It is cool.>>8003159Great little drawing!>>8003161EPIC!>>8003223YOU DID IT! Congrats on a finished work!>>8003226Fucking beautiful!>>8003254he he he he did! Cute as always! I like the photo's color spec!>>8003255LOL! XD Beautiful girls! SAVED!
>>8003054what resources did you use to learn shading?
>>8003333You make me very sad
>>8002953not him, but what gets me is that I've tried to "get back into drawing" multiple times. friends/family know I have some interest in the hobby and bought supplies.I never actually put in the effort or stick with it, so the bad art is mostly a reminder of my laziness and that others are also aware of this.But also this weird concern someone will see it and think it's the result of actually trying for that many years, which would have to mean I'm mentally challenged considering it's very bad
>>8003024sounds like methis one probably took me 20 hours easilyand that's while not going for perfection/being lazy
>>8003333Trippy Quads
So from what I gather I have two fundamental skill problems and one fundamental mindset problem. The skill problems are construction and perspective. Can you help me figure out what I'm doing wrong in this sketch?The mindset problem is my lack of ambition, both in trying more daring poses and in working on longer projects. Can I get your thoughts on this as well?
>>8003348why is he blue
Needed to draw more dudes and felt colouring book mood.Forgot the sword, to fix an eye and to just do more bottom half, but yea...maybe should have made him taller, but he's canonically 5'6" so that felt easy in relation?First head was the original I did before spending time trying to eyeball it right, can see how that went.Keep drawin' fellas.
Tried hand from here>>8003091I used to "just draw" and developed bad habits, avoided hands, never really studied properly.Clearly I need to work on perspective. I assume it's also a symbol drawing problem, even when I used to draw more it was usually copying lineart. Real eyes/noses/faces are particularly bad too.Which course/book should I start ASAP to start fixing some of this?From title alone I guess Drawing with Right Side of the Brain or Complete Guide to Drawing from Life?
>>8003366he's my roleplay OChe's not a human
>>8003189>>8003282no they are normal aliens that got their flesh and bodies replaced
GIVE ME TALENT.
Hey Russia, how much would I have to pay for you to mentor me?
>>8003398I would also like to know
>>8003279Thanks
>>8003371Oops that was huge. Tried to just move quicker without as much erasing, but still too much even for this.Foot sizes way off, thigh too thick, lots of weirdness.Will start some sort of course tomorrow>>8002905
>>8003310deerish
>>8002845
>>8003161finally a good drawing, it's been like a decade
Meant to be a stupid 30 minute thing to tell myself i technically drew something to today but I ended up getting kinda invested in it
>>8003430kek of all things
would it be worthwhile to go through some of these and just copy everything in there? I know people do that with anatomy books and stuff, not sure if it's as good an idea with art books to the left of Oddworld is a Wizardry art book with Jun Suemi's work, to the right is Katsuya Terada's art for Busin 0: Wizardry Alternative Neo
>>8003447yeah you can learn a lot copying art you like
>>8003447yeah but don't forget to draw something original by yourself too to avoid the grind hell
>>8003447worthwhile?! It is a fucking MUST. If you can do it, then DO IT. No doubt about it. If you have the time and you have the books, (you can get all of these books for free online too), it would be a crime no to do it.I remember when buying one of those Yoshitaka Amano's art books costed an arm an a leg, and it was a fucking ripoff, because those books were shit. Now you can find them all online, free. It's a crime not to take advantage of this golden era of infinite resource availability. Draw everything you see, also variety of styles and themes will keep the grinding fresh.
I miss pedro
>>8003457just dm him
>>8003377depends on perspective I guesssuch a replacement imo is tantamount to the death of the original necrontyr. this the necrons are a new race bearing the memories of a dead one, but that's my headcanon ig
Progression of my Alice. I'll probably change her a third time if I get better at drawing.
>>8003484What's the time difference between these two images?
>>80034884 months
>>8003484It looks like you just learned another art style.
>>8003484The left one is your latest, right? It's really nice. Like a Japanese rendition of the Disney cartoon.
>>8003484I don't want to be the guy, but the laft, is at least partialy petter, it smoother, its simpler, the silhuette reads better. Are both your originals? Looks more like the first was traced from a professional cartoon and the second one is you adding more bells and whistles.
>>8002845can a helpful anon draw where the light is coming from for each one?
>>8003493The right one is the latest one, but I assume that's what you meant! Thanks!>>8003498The first was me trying to use as little detail as possible, but that was because I can't handle detail that well. I want to get better at drawing details, but not make them too realistic. It's really hard.
>>8003226You have a tendency of erasing the likeness of the character and fucking up the height of the far eye. Doesn't look like or feel like Frieren at all.
>>8002944You're mega retarded. Add a cool spaceship or alien and maybe it will become a good picture, Russian chad
>>8002875Not spending more than 5 mins on this lol
>my 14 yo sister is avging 300-500 likes on twitterit's ogre....
>>8003514have you considered drawing either as well as her, as often as her or to similar topics as her?Or like, ask her what shes doing differently to you? or let her get big then leech off her
>>8003503>but I assume that's what you meant!No, I thought the left was in fact newer. It's definitely better.A couple thoughts I had comparing them: Your latest looks stiff despite having a more bent figure. The back is basically a straight line, continued by her dress.The hair has more detail but feels 'flat' in comparison because of the thinner strands. The left has that nice swooping line on the back and that tuft on the front giving it more volume.The frills on the dress and apron are nice.All in all you really captured the less-is-more essence with the left one, I don't think you should give that up. If you want more detail try to keep that simplicity.I think just adding the frills and folds of the right to the left would get you what you want? Anyway they're both nice drawings.
>>8003500
>>8003519thanks bubba
>>8003517OOF that's fucking painful hahaha
how do tradfags draw when they're on the go? I just did some sketching in a tiny sketchbook leaning it on my legs and then a desk and my neck is already killing me I can't imagine they're all walking around with easels
>>8003430cute bastard!
>>8003521kek don't feel too bad. Like I said, you might just be doing more work than needed if you want more detail.
>>8003529I ain't the nigga who drew the rapeable alive bro
>>8003535rape-able alice *
>>8002939Mwahaha
>>8003547>>8002939Oops didn't want to reply sorry dawg
july is overa lot more drawings than june, so I'm satisfiedhopefully even more next month
>>8003550I should start doing this too just to get an overviewnice work
Any art communities you guys know of that beat this shithole?
>>8003556it's a good way to keep yourself honest about how much (or more often how little, sadly) one drawsit'd be fun to see other anon's monthly summaries too
>>8003557not really, every other place is just a giant hugbox most of the time
>>8003360A friend says I should remove the skull because it adds clutter, what do you think?
>>8003506Redline it, please.>You have a tendency of erasing the likeness of the characterUnironically how's this a bad thing?
>>8003560Not like this place gives good crit either. Just annoying crabs shitting the place up.
>>8003561if you keep the skull, you should adjust the hands so that they hold it properlyyou can make the composition stronger by bringing the hands down (see pic related)fix the forms of the arms too, right now they feel flatit's a very cool idea, so please work on it a bit longer in the sketch phase
>>8003567i prefer this shithole over other shithole
>>8003550Nice idea anon. Also, almost 1 per day is great consistency. I think I will start doing this monthly round up too
>>8003568It's a good idea because it's not mine, it's from an album cover
>>8003484Very cute Alices, but left is the clear winner for meAside from what this anon >>8003517 said, the feet of the first Alice are also more asymmetric/dynamic, as well as the headbands. I also don’t love the face of the second Alice. It’s not bad but the left one is just more charming and less generic. The hands of right Alice are better though
There used to be lot of redlining going on here. Nowadays I dare not even ask for help, as that might trigger someone.
>>8003333checked>>8003310 (You)cool concept and art
>>8003562If it doesn't look like the character why even bother drawing the character in the first place If you draw your friend and it looks like a different guy every time you can't really get mad when people say you didn't really draw him?Likeness in faces is arguably one of the most important things for characters other than overall proportions, every excuse you can come up with is cope
>>8003585You're assuming I'm trying to make a 1:1 copy of a design that isn't even mine. Wrong. I don't do that, I never have, and I couldn't care less about doing it.The whole reason I draw Touhou is because the designs are simple and recognizable enough that I can do whatever the hell I want with them. Frieren and Fern are the same. They're clean, iconic designs that make a great starting point for my own stuff.If your only metric is "does it match the reference sheet," then sure, knock yourself out. But don't act like that's some universal rule. That's just your idea of what fan art is supposed to be.
what do you think of my shading? i didn't paint in all of the details. should i spend more time on this?
>frieren and fern iconiclittle bro slow down
>>8003592the first threshold is making your thumbnail look like the refright now you put a lot of detail in the face, but other areas are unresolved, so focus on bringing those shapes closer firstsquint your eyes, and look for the biggest shapes and values that are missing / wrong
just express yourself and the thing you want in art bwos
>>8003591It doesn't have to be a 1:1 copy to look like the character retard
DRAW, DRAW ANTONIO! DO NOT WASTE TIME AND DRAW, ANTONIO!
>>8003597i'll try to fix up shapes and add in the missing details later. thanks for the advice.
>>8003599All is good then. Glad we agree.
>>8003600who
>>8003591You are treating stylization and likeness as the same thing. Before those posts, I thought it was just another Miku you made. The point the anon made is valid.It would benefit you to understand what makes a character distinct. Dragon Ball is a great example to learn from. There are details that carry a lot of weight in making a character recognizable, for example, the hair.
>>8003604Don't bother , stupid niggers like him get critique all the time and never change in the 3 or 4 years he posts here he just likes to post his slop, collect (yous) and leave when somebody actually gives him genuine criticism
>>8003604You are arguing about likeness... on a unfinished sketch about an anime elf with a simple high twin tail hairstyle. It's Frieren, not Cell ,ffs
>>8003607My Mapuche friend, you have some anger and ego issues. Calm down.
>>8003578you start to identify anons that can't take critlike the notfrieren retard above, or appealfag or perilI like their art, but it's simply a waste of time to give feedback to them
when people don't respond to your drawings is it because it's too shit
>>8003550Nice job anon, solid consistent work this month!>>8003559One monthly summary of small improvements coming up. Wanna get one more done before eod.
>>8003612just point out some problems so I can see them myself and improve?
>>8003612try asking specific questions on your posts for higher success. its easier to reply too. I dont think being too shit matters if you consider people like hatkid
The suffering never ends.Recopying hide's example skulls from his head course because I did them all wrong the first time, and also throwing in some from imagination along the way.I think it's important that I get these right because I'm still making major perspective errors when I try to do these, some more obvious (like just completely ignoring the guidelines and putting point A above point B when it should actually be reversed for example) and some more subtle, like forgetting that the "middle line" in an almost-profile view isn't *really* the middle line and there's going to be a lot more of the skull on one side of the middle axis than the other (sometimes I subconsciously start treating it like a perfect 50/50 dividing line and the features start to drift).Still dealing with general inconsistency and sometimes the skulls not looking very... skeletal, but it's less about drawing skulls per se and more about being able to do perspective and construction.My biggest concern is just how hard it is to be consistent, I FEEL like I'm doing the exact same construction method every time but it ends up feeling like a gacha where I never know where it's going to go wrong or what it's going to look like and it's just totally beyond me why it works sometimes and why it doesn't.Anyway I still feel like I'm getting something out of this so I'm going to keep up with the skulls until I'm satisfied.
>>8003622Forgot to add, I think I'm honestly pretty comfortable with most of the skull at this point but the teeth and jaw just utterly fuck me up, still takes a lot of trial and error to get the jaw looking decent.
>>8003612Sometimes yeah, but it's often the mid /beg/ drawings that get the fewest responses. If you're a hyper turbo beg people will at least respond to laugh at you and maybe point you to resources, and if you're bordering on /int/ or above then people will respond with praise. It's the big grey middle zone where you get the fewest responses because there's not much to say except "ok, keep going".
>>8003613nice, a lot of finished illustrationsmy favorites are the ghost girl and the couple the crashed ship in the bg
>>8003484I personally think the left design holds its appeal in the contours: the cheeks breach the hair drape displaying a round curve, the bows are gentle and sloped, there's a little 'swoosh' in the apron, her hair is asymmetric and balanced by the tilt of her headband.Right's silhouette is more rigid: the bows are pointed and jagged, the 90degree frill contours on the dress give it a serrated appearance, the headband is nearly dead center and sticks out like tv-antennae.Left reminds me of Carlianne Tipsey (Pic related, not my work), great resource for simple designs. Slight touhou vibe from Right, but they are both charming drawings, thank you for sharing.
cursed elf
>>8003626tysm! They're my faves from this month as well, >>8003612You should treat this place more like a gym rather than a social media forum. It's only artists and aspiring artists who frequent so most are focused on themselves and honing whatever it is they're trying to improve.as >>8003618 stated, being specific w/ what your goals are will usually lead people to commenting/pointing out issues, but you should mostly be looking at what you've posted and trying to improve on it/iterate on it. Sometimes no comments can mean that it's bad, but in my experience it's just that what is wrong/bad about it is obvious so there's not much to say other than glazing it if they like the style/appeal factor enough.>>8003614If you're looking for a specific insight from a mid-beg artist I can tell you what might need improvement if you link me to your post.
>>8003630>>8003513
>>8003629Damn that’s really nice
>>8003513You're on the right track on trying to construct the body but your lines need work. They are shaky and unconfident, bold incorrect lines tend to look better than wishy-washy correct ones. Worry less about being perfect and focus on learning to feel out the volumes instead of the outline. I'm assuming you used reference for this, in which case good, but you should try drawing the ref 1 or 2 times before trying to implement it in your desired drawing next time to get a feel for it and to work on your confidence. I'm a self taught asshole tho so take everything I say w/ a tremendous grain of salt.
any books about perspective and foreshortening and crazy poses involving weird crazy angles?
Why do these fucking threads lays reach their bumplimits so fast.
>>8003637Thanks, if lines are the worst thing, then I am happy knowing what to improve. I was afraid that there were some terrible mistakes that I can see untill weeks later. I already did redraw it few times, but at later stages there is allways something new to fix. Would tracing your own work work as late fix for scratchy lines? Also I quess I should look for some short linework tutoria, taking any recommendations.
>>8003639NoAll of the perspective books are just books disguised to make you good at drawing environments and and vehicle designs but not actually characters in perspective.The only real way to get good at characters is to understand the basics of creating and drawing things on different types of perspective grids and drawing the body with those basic concepts in mind from every odd angle you can ad nasueaum until the human form is burned into your subconscious.
i tried doing a lineless thing last night but it sucked so i gave up and went to bed
>>8003649Can you give her bigger tits to balance out her dump truck ass? Thanks in advance witch, bro
when is a good time to switch to digital drawing?
>>8003656Yesterday
>>8003639>>8003647The perspective drawing handbook and perspective made easy both cover drawing people in perspective
>>8003643You have a lot to figure out in terms of anatomy and proportions, but lines are the most actionable thing you can control right now as you figure those things out. You will see mistakes later, that's inevitable. Don't go back to fix it, instead redo it if it really bothers you. Don't trace anything unless you're really stumped on a form or shape, and if you do, immediately redraw it w/out tracing.I don't have any recommendations, in my experience there's no tutorial for this, just practice.
>>8003517>>8003573>>8003628I see what you guys are saying. When I attempt to draw her again, I'll try to keep the flow of the first design.
>>8003675Damn, nice. I didn't like the coloring on the last one, but this one is really good.
>>8003683thanks
>>8003656Paper vs digital doesn't really matter honestly, you can do either one whenever you want, just do whatever you like best
randomly came up with a new character i'll never do anything with
>>8003659great gestures, I can feel the frustration in the top middle.>>8003667very good energy in this one, just a handful of lines to convey the open handed prancing, thank you.
>>8003550lol bro will burn out
now that I've bought all this shit recommended by Eviston, Proko and Steven Zapata I can speedrun realizing that I prefer digital
>>8003709actually this is better, I think
>>8003611>like the notfrieren retard above, or appealfag or perilThey are precisely the ones who don't need any crit. I would like perilfag to give real critique instead of hugboxing the whole thread though.
>>8003719cute design
>>8003729How long have you been studying drawing?I did this a couple years ago, but worse since I added more ink/paint too, and never used like 98% of it all.I finally went and resold/donated a chunk of it even though I'm trying to get back into drawing again.Having too many supplies is such a beginner trap, adds new decisions and time to every step instead of streamlining practice
>>8003741Yeah when I first stared I bought a ton of shit I never used. You really only need a sketchbook and your favorite pencil
>>8003739>>8003622Nice heads desu
Trying to figure out a wasp's head in perspective broke me
>>8003667this has garbage shapes, turn it into a goth coded loli or its dead in the water>it doesnt mattershit i thought people posted things they were happy with, my bad g
>>8003639use reference / 3d model or give up>noo you dont get it my eyes are just that goodjej
>>8003762he could be him thoughbeit
>>8003777
>>8003777That highlight on top of her head looks like a bald spot
>>8003762i didnt say that, i mean i want a book BECAUSE i need help
>>8003779it's where hair is typically parted, but i see what you mean. also noticed the hairline was too high
>>8003785I hate talented rats
>>8002905GOOOOOOONING
>>8003791nice
have any of you ever had to draw a plan projection or is it an ultra-niche skill that has been rendered obsolete by just using grids?
>>8003603Michelangelo to his apprentice. The only way to improve is to keep doing the thing.
>>8003807>Given that Michelangelo`s exhortation to [Antonio] Mini does not give space for the completion of the latter`s red chalk copy, it may be the case that Michelangelo penned the words following his assistant`s failure to complete the drawing.
>>8003802it was obsoleted by sketchup in the 00s (and these days, blender or even inside csp itself)
>>8003809so when modern artists talk about learning perspective, it's just drawing boxes and cylinders freehand until you git gud and backgrounds are just kind of slapped together in blender?
I am being gangstalked but will try to get some drawing done regardless.
>>8003810having good perspective intuition is how you can take those crude 3d volumes and create convincing detail on topand of course also place organic forms (like characters, etc) in them convincinglybut if you have good perspective intuition (and the background is relatively simple) you can also skip the blender part and just use a grid like you mentionedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GusjvmlCb6w
Help me with the lower half? I want to give him strong legs, but I don't want to give him female hips, and right now it just looks straight bodied and boring.
>>8003816>intuitionLarping retards. Just learn perspective, it's a right sided brain hobby, not for women or the libs. Loomis is right there, go have fun with a pencil.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gsw03rT2E3M
pain and suffering
>>8003847Fun and happiness! mmhhh, feel so good to draw all day!
>>8003847i am in hellhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ico-_e4CzjY
>>8003847>>8003854Helpful resourcehttps://youtu.be/rqFBr9w5UbY
yello fellers, comin straight at you with another botched render practice. there's the shadows, the highlighs, I even airbrushed a little, outlined the terminators with a red line like I've seen in some drawings, AND rubbed a blur brush onto random spots. I'm my eyes, the fig looks alright up until step 3 when I attempt doing lineart. as soon as put down flats it starts looking bad, and further on it's, well>>8003611critgodanon, I never disregard actionable advice tho>>8003719sexa
>>8003867Gonna stick with that dogshit artstyle? Amateurs do that and say that.
>>8003874it's less an artstyle and more the only way I can draw atm, if I could draw differently I would!>Amateurs do that and say thatthis is /beg/ general, sir
>>8003874fr their work is so bad two
>>8002896very difficult, but helpful expressions, it's easy to forget how many muscles there are in the face and the positions the brows and lips can be in.
>>8003874That's his "meme style", same as that other perilfag. That's not how they really draw.
>>8003611Excuse me. I'm in the OP so this is officially a pro-clique thread
>>8003875>if I could draw Rendering has nothing to do with artstyle or drawing skillz doe> cartoon renderingYeah idk that shit looks horrible doe
is there any reason to take hampton's classes when vlippu's lectures are freely available? who is your figure drawing instructor of choice?
>>8003885anime
>>8003885jesus christ
>>8003887i remember reading that a lot of anime niggas study morpho
>>8003874>>8003877>>8003880>>8003884if this is the kind of 'crit' I supposedly can't take then guilty as charged haha>Rendering has nothing to do with artstyle or drawing skillz doewhatcan any of you guys pyw btw, I feel like I could learn a lot from you
>>8003818maybe instead of focusing on the hip muscles (tensor fascia lata?), put more emphasis on the interior muscles (adductors).
>>8003890>can any of you guys pyw btw, I feel like I could learn a lot from youGlad you askedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkQRcGFMZL0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfLKHbmhCIYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zQWKK5itGMAnd don't forget to join my artschool where you can level up alongside other shitters like yourself, use the code Alpha67ArtSchoolMogsReddit for a 0.50% discount. https://cubebrush.co/mb
>>8003895Marc you're awesome, but don't mess with the clique. You don't want any of that. Just a friendly warning.
>>8003908lmao
>>8003908Oh yeah Shame that they exist, they are borderline alone at this point and that's a good thing!
>>8003908>>8003912>>8003914Them face when Marc is a clique founding father
booba
>>8003226>>8003255fantastic stuff anons
>>8003921Reminds me of cyancapsule. Good stuff.
Still struggling w/ this one, think I prefer the left for having more energy. >>8003921Excellent booba>>800379110/10>>8003867Really good stuff dude
>>8003755Thanks, I have improved since my earlier attempts at least. It’s slow going but I do think I’ll be able to move on soon
>>8003934Why even have the perspective grid if you're not going to abide by it when you make your rectangular cube for your dude? It doesn't matter at this point but the bottom right lineAt this point just pick one and go for it. I also prefer the left one.
>>8003941Ah I see what you mean, Yeah still terrible w/ working with the grid but thanks.
I have only been doing boring studies of cubes and light. So here is an old drawing of mine for the thread.Have a Megumi to improve your day.
>>8003908It's crazy how many sleeper agents are already embedded in his community.
I CANT FUCKING DRAW.
>>8003878eva green is known for them. in another reality she replaced jim carrey in his movird. good job, despite your cartoony style its still recognizeable
quick bath studyhe didn't have a mouth in the original
>>8003874Go easy on appealfag, it took ten years for him to learn how to draw with a brush that looks like a fucking crayon.Maybe in another ten he'll finally be able to render basic shapes!
>>8003975>brush that looks like a fucking crayonYou dumbasses, he's training in hard mode. No-draw fags won't even draw on easy mode.
Today's drawings just don't look quite right for some reason.
>>8003613Great work, anon. I have some thoughts, but keep in mind that I don't know much about you. For example, if you told me that most of these were commissions, it would change my opinion on some of my observations.What I like:+ Your work is appealing.+You spend time on rendering, drapery, and basic backgrounds.+ There's a consistent theme.What I don't like:-the same pose is repeated too often.-the torsos feel stiff.-there's not much interaction when there are more than two subjects.I think you could improve a lot by drawing a wider variety of poses and spending more time sketching. I know bulky bodies are hard to draw dynamically, especially the limbs, but I'd suggest checking out sumo for references. Mainoumi Shuhei and Hakuho Sho are probably the best references for dynamic poses, and aesthetically, Chiyonofuji is my favorite.As for the interaction issue, make the characters touch each other more. For example, with the two robo girls, I think the idea of them arguing would read better if one of them were pointing at the other chest while the other pressed her rod against the girl's face.And about the giant WIP try sketching your idea first without worrying about perspective. Once you have a composition you like, start incorporating perspective. also I don't think a top-down view works here because it doesn't make the giant feel big. I'd go with a low-angle, bottom-up view for that kind of effectI forgot draw atleast the cast shadow of the figure on the ground it would add grounding to the figure.>>8003484I think the one on the right shows better progress, but it feels like you're sacrificing appeal for the sake of correctness. What I mean is that the figure on the right has a better gesture and a better balance of shape complexity >>8003517 The sharp > vs \ makes the thumbnail look more interesting and sell the action better. What you're losing, though, is the figure's simplicity and value readability,e.g. bigger waist and firls dark lines
This is all I managed to add before end of the month. Goat is a joke npc for my irl dnd game. >>8004000Thank you very much!Most of the rendered ones are commissions (The squid dress, kiss, and ship choke are requests or gift art)I appreciate the compliment, I often feel I lack appeal but it's getting better. You're absolutely correct that I use the same pose too much, definitely something I need to start deliberately doing/working on once I'm finished w/ comms. I'll give the interactions advice a shot as well. As for the WIP it's not meant to be a giant, it's a comm for a flying character (warhammer swooping hawk) It might be too late for this one as I'm gonna get started on lining this, but is there something I can do to make it read better as the intended prompt? >>8003999I can't pinpoint exactly what about it, but it's the tits and abs I think.
There’s no point worrying about things you can’t fix
Don't have a whole month, but here's what I got done in July. Green numbers are dates. Top row was all copied from reference, bottom is when I tried drawing from imagination. I was hoping to have a new drawing done tomorrow for a full 2 weeks, but IDK if I'll finish it in time.
I'm worrying
>>8002837Today’s perspective practice
>>8004013About things you can control, right?
My talent is under my control... feels good
>>8003568I tried coloring it following a different workflow from usual but I hate how it turned out
>>8004019The colours in question. I'm debating if I should try again or just move on
>>8003999looks good to me anon
>>8002905sillyness
>>8004000putting my money where my mouth is>>8003484cont.I think the one on the right would look better with more simplified clothing and more focus on how the folds overlap. At the same time, the one on the left has a more chibi-like style, which fits better.>>8004010Yeah I guessed, but non the less if I were in the comm business with that type of work I would work on template poses that look incredible for fat/strongman bodies so your pipeline is faster.> but is there something I can do to make it read better as the intended prompt?As a beg no draw I cannot help you...With that description, honestly, what I'm seeing isn't working for me. I don't know anything about warhammer, but it seems like aerial fights are very hard to draw because I haven't found anything that looks particularly good. The best references I've found are some Ironman illustrations, and even those are kind of meh.I'd take it to the stratosphere, where you can see the curvature of the planet with high contrast, and have it fighting drones instead. That would read as an aerial battle much more clearly... i think
Day 3 of practicing art again. 3 10 min figure studies
>>8004020I decided to move on
i hate green tea and coffee where's my anime girl shilling water
>>8004055draw one yourself
>>8004059I like your words magic manI CAN do that...this is... the power of drawing?!
>>8004045But he didn't move onI don't know when it's time to stopIs it harder to read now?
>>8000900>>8002775cute
>>8001742PAGE 7 WIP. Line and text done. Another boring page... I want them elves to get captured and tortured already. But the next page will be about the King and the witch talking more bullshit. More boring shit that throws me off. That's why I can't have a job doing this. Rotting coom brain death is real.>>8003912NNNNNIIIICEEEEEEE!!!>>8003921Fucken saved!>>8003934COOL! I like the one on the right better..>>8004045Congrats!!! Nice work!>>8003894I'm saving this>>8003878Excellent!>>8003867The pink one is my favorite!!!>>8003739I love your style!>>8003684This is the coolest shit you have ever done, my favorite at least. SAVED!
Hello, I just turned 30 and want to channel my midlife crisis into drawing. I'm kind of a retard though, and don't think I do well outside of a structured learning environment. Can anyone here recommend an online course? I don't mind paying, though ideally not past 1k.
>>8004081>In his 30s and still acting like a snowflakeI hope you end up committing suicide zoomtard i truly do, you will never learn how to draw anyways
>>8004081Do you have talent? That helps. Depending on your location you will have better or worse options. If you're going for an online option, from the known people in the "online art scene" I only trust Jeffrey Watts:https://www.youtube.com/@wattsatelier/videoshttps://www.wattsatelier.com/He's a pretty known and respected teacher, and he focus on drawing, wich is what starting people should really focus on.According to his website you can get a year of online teaching for USD 960. If I have to choose I would prefer him rather than Proko or Mar Brunet online courses.The other option is to find something near you were you can attend in person, so it gets to be more of a "social" experience. But in my opinion, this art thing is a lonely tormenting self-inflicted curse, that will only work if you have some unhealthy passion about it. If you don't have it, then you will suffer this more than enjoy it."Trust the process" is the only advice here, if you have a good teacher that is.
>>8004078If you can't figure out an excuse to add something degenerate into an exposition scene then maybe you're not the high pervert I thought you were.
>>8004081It's me >>8004088I went to check on the Watts Atelier site and there's a mistake on the price the "First month" is USD 80, then is 99 dollars per month, lol. Anyways I don't know how many months should be recommended, I guess it depends on your skill progression.Personally I would save that money to attend life drawing sessions in actual drawing schools. You can't miss that experience if you're going to try this. And then, you just need to allocate the time to draw everyday, that's the only "secret" to it. Just draw, copy art books, focus on the rough sketching drawing, if you have to just draw sketches for a couple of years DO THAT, it will pay off. Save money to attend real painting classes when you master drawing from imagination. Once you're REAL GOOD at drawing, the the painting thing, becomes a "technical" issue, like learning and getting used to handling the tools: brushes, paintings, canvases, mixing, maintenance of the tools, archiving of your work, etc. The drawing part is the REAL thing, it may take years and years to master drawing, that's all what really matters. Leave painting and rendering for the future. That will be the easy part, when the time comes to tackle that.
>>8004078>coolest shit you have ever donethats crazy yo, i genuinely didnnt even like it that much when i finished it yesterday
>>8002905
Can someone give me the discord link
>>8004104you need to respond positively to 100 cabal sanctioned arts first
>>8004104Have you already been initiated into the "mystery"? Only the initiated can't attend to it...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7DnGQqlVsI
I've tried so many pencil brushes in photoshop, and they all suck Aaron Blaise, jingsketch, GrutBrushes, Marc Brunet, Lucas Peinador, Kyle T. Webster and more are they any good in Procreate?
>>8004104https://discord.gg/aXeKrEJNH2
>>8004107I like Ahmed Aldoori's brushes
>>8004107I've tried them all, I liked Lane's the best. (from Lane's Photoshop Master Pack)
This has taken 5 hours so far
>>8004118Nice. I always learn so much when I bother to work on a completed illustration
>>8004118anatomy is funny but image kind of epic
>>8004123>>8004124thxI'm definitely being lazy on anatomy in order to focus on the background hereHopefully it won't drive me into obsessive psychosis before the end
>>8004092i don't like your rats
>>8004012my favorite is day 20using accuracy tools (envelopes, plumb lines, grids) would help you the most right nowbesides just drawing more ofc
>>8004143Frieren?
portrait study...
>>8004166very nicesome of the skin halftones look a bit too yellowish green imo, you could bring them slightly towards orange (especially in the middle zone of the face)
>>8004118Looking great so far. The only thing I'd suggest is to have the dude's lineart be thicker since he's closer to the camera, but it's up to you
>>8004076I'm in a hell of my own making
>>8004168ThanksI do have red-green colorblindness so maybe I should just never touch yellow at all..
>>8004173have you tried playing around with different background colors?
>find a good brush, but it defaults to a retarded size like 500 pixels, no way to change default >no easy way to reset a brush to its default setting >all brushes become darker when increased in size and vice versa, a brush that looks good at 10px will often look awful when increased >no way to have some sort of radial menu or easy way to just drag and drop favorites into a listI fucking hate photoshop so much. Leonardo is great for Just Drawing™ but photoshop has more features which can be helpful at times. I shouldn't have to buy BrushBox and Coolorus for basic brush management and better color management either
>>8004175Thanks Russia
>>8004118sex
>>8004187reminds me of bagboss, good stuff
>>8004184You can have "favorites" it's called tool preset in PS
Where do ppl post their art? I thought deviantart was a big thing but that was years ago and I was a nodraw.
>>8004184>defaults to a retarded size like 500 pixels, no way to change defaultyou can
>>8004184Photoshop for digital painting is only good for power users. You should probably switch to simpler software.
>>8004199silly
>>8004171Genuinely awesome advice! ty!
Daily I need to draw something, am I too scared to push the shade?
>>8004197herenow post it
>>8004197i post here and on discord
>>8004212at the beginner level I wouldn't even worry about that kinda stuff, just focus more on nailing the shapes and getting the proportions right, maybe just imply texture if you want to add detail rather than worrying about lighting / shading would also recommend making the reference image grayscale and blurring it a bit, so you're not distracted by the color info and can get a clear read on value, and the blur simplifies the shapes as if you're squinting which is often recommended when drawing from lifeanother trick when drawing from reference is to crop it so the subject fits into a box, that way you can draw the 'trapped shapes' which is often easier than trying to blindly draw the contour
Can you guys have a look at my loli drawing before I start rendering please? I'm not super happy with the torso.https://files.catbox.moe/5gq1iu.png
Fellas...the line of action.com line up does not spark joy
>>8004236mr dream from nintendo's punch out in the center
>>8004235stay in your containment thread, pedo
>>8004239NEVER! I DEMAND critique!
>>8004235nigger everything is fucked up.
>>8004235>Clicked the link
Today’s perspective practice
Two hours down the drain on a single study that I can’t get right AAAAAAAAAAAA
>>8004054cute chino
>>8004251Only two hours?
>>8004149>google 'envelope drawing'>first several results are tutorials on how to draw an envelopeThanks. I'll try out enveloping/plumb lines. Full grids at a glance seem like they'd probably make progress slower, though? Like it would probably help me make a better drawing, but at the cost of learning less. Am I wrong there?
>>8004249How many ghosted lines exercises before I can draw lines this straight, anon?
>>8004264the good thing about grids is that they train your eyes to make comparative angle judgements against verticals and horizontals (as well as keeping proportions in check), and you can adjust difficulty by making the grid more or less dense (with the 2x2 grid as your goal)but I know that there's a bias here that looks down on grids, so use envelopes if you prefer
>>8004265I’m using a ruler lol
>post little art in other platforms, get a couple of likes>post here, not even a single (you)It is so challenging to be validated by 4chan anons. The bar is too high in the sky.
Not sure on colorsNot very experienced in using gradients
>>8004283I think his t-shirt might be a little bit too small.
the randomest of stuff>>8004283i would simplify the background into less colors. its a bit distracting as it is
>>8004282those other platforms might be bots for all you knowbut it's simple: you need to take a small piece of your soul, rip it apart and embed it into everything you draw
>>8004291funny designs, I like themyou could make the heads smaller, I get they're cartoony but it might be too much as is
My week was mostly light and shadow studies. Learned a lot, I will be trying to apply it soon.
>>8004294nice grindwould be interesting to compare your before and after this series of studies
>>8004291The background is the whole point lolBut I hows thisAlso, cool lil dudes
>>8004283>>8004296focus on light and shadow, you can overlay or multiply local colors later, but getting the values right will make or break the piecehttps://youtu.be/VBLlFAaUpXU?t=148
>>8004299Frick.Thx for trying to help x.x
>>8004296I mean, the character takes so much of the frame that it is really difficult to pay any attention to the background. And because there is very little difference in values between the character and the BG, they mix up, especially the weapon with the bridge behind it. I would at least try to do something like a light line on the edges of the character to separate, or perhaps play with light/shadow/values or color saturation between the character and the background.If you want to emphasize the background, the composition should be made so the character doesn't take so much of the space available.
>>8004014perspective might be favorite subject. here's a tiny sherman tank in two-point. the more freehand elements i added, the uglier it got. i want to try something else on a larger sheet of paper.
>>8004256Thank you
>>8004303>>8004296Take a brief look at this Krenz artwork. The scenery is the main focus, so the characters not only take up less space, but even their demeanor/pose direct us towards the beautiful landscape. There are many ways to play with composition to dictate the viewer's attention.
>>8004292You mean making your drawings into horcruxes?
>>8004311>make 10,000 drawings>hide them in random locations around the world>all 10,000 of them have to be destroyed to kill you>can continue improving at art as long you want1000-IQ move. every artist should do this.
>>8004311exactlyand if you get really good at it you become immortal
>>8004166>>8004179The colors are fine. I wouldn't use colorblindness as a crutch. Instead, focus on values and light. I bet there's a guide to color correction or color grading for people with colorblindness. Maybe working in the LAB color space, or another color space, will make this easier for you. Even if the colors look different, as long as the values are solid, the final result will look good.As for the piece itself, start with the big shapes and planes first. Make the hairline more defined, and homogenize the skin values. For example, her left cheek looks dirty because of the amount of local value variation. Here's a quick comparison to show what I mean.
some kind of nonsense.
>>8004324lovely nonsense
>>8004092>thats crazy yo, i genuinely didn't even like it that much when i finished it yesterdayI think is the way you painted it aside from the cool design as well, it has that retro pro vibe. This is the kind of cool design art you would expect to see in japanese art books from arcade shooters maybe.I like the square landing gear housing on the sides too, you naturally understand how to make simple and functional shapes to make sense and look good.
>>8004307Cool anon, thanks for sharing
>>8004336have another one. i wish i had an ellipse guide but all i have is a circle guide.
>>8004323Thanks anon this is is useful. It's amazing how much difference a few small changes make. I do work in values, initially starting with 4 values and then slowly expanding them. This is an earlier stage of the painting before I added value variation to the far cheek. I think the main takeaway here is that I should avoid adding detail to the light planes unless it is really necessary for the structure? Also I think at this point I should have realized that the near cheek is really a light plane and just committed to it rather than having it be somewhere between light and midtone.
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critique plez thanx
>>8004348>I think the main takeaway here is that I should avoid adding detail to Focus on the bigger shapes first. Zoom out frequently and always keep an eye on the thumbnail. Details can be added later.Besides that, keep painting and study other artists' work. John Singer Sargent's charcoal portraits are incredible study material.
>>8004370is CFNDAIS a troll or are you guys for real
Am I Goated?
>>8004400NEVER get lured into any discord related to this site.
>>8004401Deered
>>8004401cooking and better than me son
>>8004404wtf why
MS Paint doodles made using trackpad. I find this method of drawing fun, too bad it's not really conducive to more than doodles.
>>8004282I validate people here every day. I do have standards but I don’t think they’re THAT high
Making my baby steps into rendering.
>>8004282I only reply to people from discord sorry my dude
>>8004335thanks for the tribute, you really got most of the construction right. interesting that you turned the external fuel tank into a rocketpod. i see youre no stranger to military shenanigans
>>8004407Why would you want to communicate with the people who post here?
>>8004407You will de opening a breach in your OPSEC. Discord is a registration site, like twitter, you give your mail, phone, etc. You engage with people there in an exposed way, then you get comfortable in "private" dialogues and DM exchanges, wich will be used later to expose something you said about someone or about some polemic topic, all of that will be screencaped and used for drama and personal harassment and extortion. Toxic communities have to remain isolated from mainstream registered social platforms. Don't turn yourself into the weak link for the cruel abuse of people you don't know, specially here. You have to keep an ABYSS of distance from people you don't know online.
>>8004418why are you so negative
>>8004411is there a difference between rendering and shading?
>>8004418because i want the attention, /beg/ is mostly discord users now anyways
Might try to make a real illustration for once. What do you think?
>>8004425sex
>>8004422Not sure. I used to call it shading, but after learning about values and stuff, I started to refer to it as rendering (which I think covers light, shadow, and colors as well).
>>8004425pretty nice, maybe her upper arm needs to be a little bit more shapely-thicker.
>>8004422As this anon said >>8004429 the word "Rendering" seems to encompass the whole general process to produce a finished image."Shading" seems to refer mostly to the value of light and shadow applied on a figure.
>>8004425I don't think
>>8004309I'm too dumb for ts x.xTried the light border and some shading
>>8004440YABADABAKEKAROOOO
>>8004442Try more contrast between foreground and background
>>8004433any rendering books?
>>8004088>>8004091>do you have talentNope, but I'm employed so I'll at least have the money for all that after a while. I'll probably start with books from the OP, then look into live classes or Watt after a few months. Also seems like there's some rips of the expensive online courses I saw floating around on the board too, which is cool. Thanks for the advice!
>>8004449I'm going through "How to Render" by Scott Roberson. There is also "Color and Light" by James Gurney and "Rendering in pen and ink" by Arthur Guptill. There is probably more out there.
>>8004442for a sec i thought this was buff alex from minecraft
>>8004447first time using the saturation filter let's goooo
>>8004455It's just one blow after another...
>>8004457its just the outfit though!!!
>>8004458Bro gonna be wearing blue jeans next time ig x.x
>>8004371 here. can anything be said about >>8004371 or should i quit art and get hooked on opioids
>>8004456i think he's still fighting with the background and the whole thing is too busy still. something's gotta take a backseat
>>8004456why is his head so tiny
>>8004471Don't need brains when you're built like what a brick shithouse would consider a brick shithouse
>>8004467He needs to actually add shadows and contrast, that section under the metal bridge is very confusing because it's all flat color. Also the bolts are incredibly detailed and distracting, the lack of shadow makes your eyes instantly jump to it every time. What an incredible amount of detailed linework for a background.
I have ideas of either both her hands covering her boobs or one with one arm overhead and the other arm across the chest. Not posting full lol
>>8004474I mean i set out to do a crazy background like this so... @_@ guess it was a bad idea
today's stuff, spent too much time messing with brush settings. drawing from observation is fuckin hard huhI feel some of the top-left blob warm-ups are okay as far as gesture is concerned, the teal ones specifically look appealing to me, idk all but two of the bottom-left blobs were done with no ctrl + z at a horrible size. black bg thing is just doodles, I need to figure out how to render and color stuff properly at some point but that's way down the line
>>8004475pedophile tranny
>>8004445>>8004440
is purpleanon gone? didn't belong in /beg/ but I liked seeing his stuff
>>8004475are you not finishing that blue archive slut
lm
>>8004425this is great
>>8004484Manlet bros....
>>8004493The chad in the car is another manlet.
>>8004488well. I'm about a hundred years from knowing how to do that. I've been at this for eight months, dawg. going for comic book style tho ty for all the spoon feeding, I'm sure some of it will circle back to my frontal lobe once I understand more
rough sketch and values for the next one
>>8004496looks great
>>8004499colors are nice head not great
>>8002896This was fun. Crits please if you see anything
a bit of gunpla drawing and a bath sketch of some random tribes guy
>>8004487Maybe, it didn’t seem like people were interested
>>8004511I am...
>>8003484I prefer the right one
need more broken neck elves
>>8004515why did you gave her cheap whore's makeup?
>>8004515I am sorry but Jona mogged yours.
>>8004499>>8004515the earrings are funny, they suggest a shitload of foreshortening that is clearly not there elsewhere or maybe not frieren has asymmetrical earrings? I don't remember
>>8004512I will work on it some more then
>>8004516because I felt this way
>>8004515Looks like some secondary elf character in Korean webtoon slop. Nice work, though.
>>8004527Pic downloaded from another tutorial but I don't think I understand how to draw clothing on top of copy pasted nude bodies like this. It's not necessarily because I don't know how to, but wouldn't different sets of clothing affect the body especially for women? Like if I drew a nude woman's body, wouldn't her tits droop because of gravity and be affected in it's position because of her wearing say bras or tight fitting clothing? Should you account for that while you're drawing the nude base? But then you won't be copy pasting the same nude base if she had other clothing
>>8004515Damn that is great, pay no attention to the crabs
>>8004530it's not my image, dummy, I just added makeup
I wanted to draw a brat but in the end I wasn't in the mood to draw and it became some nonsense.
>>8004532cute future lung cancer haver
>>8004532ok.
expression came out looking like she had too many weed gummies. could be worse.
>>8004538the underboob towers over me menacingly
>>8004532Really great linework, lots of potential here if you worked on proportions and perspective and everything else...
>>8004506very exaggerated but still has a likeness. purdy kewl. she became the semen demon she always was inside
>>8004540I've stagnated after neglecting study for months and my hardware is garbage right now. But once I solve that problem I will get back to seeking improvement, there's a lot of stuff I want to make.
>>8004484this is why i draw /beg/-tier drawings instead of participating in society. the game is rigged.
>>8004541Thanks anon. The exaggeration wasnt planned it just kinda came out
>>8004515dentist kun is that you
>>8004528I don't think you wanted to quote me.
>>8004506>female art
>>8004567>>8004572>>>/i/
>>8004574>linking the better board that nodraws will NEVER post in What did he mean by this?
how dreadful
>>8001742PAGE 7 DONE!>>8004089I could, but that would make the exposition scene to get over extended. I prefer to cram all of the text in one page and then go immediately back to the sexy scenes. If I were getting paid for this then I would have to add some sexy courtesan ladies in a well drawn and detailed king's hall, and some sexy prisoners in the witch's dungeon, but I ain't got no time for that extra effort. Gotta focus on the elves getting caught and interrogated.>>8004096I'm saving all of these!>>8004212Nah, that's a beautiful drawing as it is. Pencil Drawings are supposed to be subtle and delicate pieces. Maybe some smudging in one place, and that's it. Drawings should be "rough" and show "character".>>8004249I love this>>8004324Very beautiful work!>>8004425Excellent figure! Her upper arm needs some thickening tho, it looks too thin...>>8004506Well done!>>8004415Thanks man glad you liked it!!! Yeah I used to be obsessed with military stuff, and mechs, now I'm more of a "naturalistic" art aficionado. lol>>8003791EXTREMELY beautiful face and beautiful lines!
>>8004487I'll work on the one with her ass some more too
Jesus Christ lineart takes way too fucking long.
>>8004618I agree but its almost like a meditative exercise. Just turn on some music and turn your brain off and its a bit nice
>>8004618Construction god
Reply to every drawing that doesn't appeal to you in this thread
>>8004636This is a very good post not designed to stir shit in any way.
my wrists feel like i'm on fire dude i'm shaking all and i'm struggling to hold the pencil up , the fuck am i supposed to do? Is this the gg? grim
>>8004644Take a break?
>>8004645how dare you
>>8004636they all appeal to me in their own way
>>8004641Is honestly saying how you feel about others' art considered offensive now
>>8004651Thank you fine faggot sir for your enlightened and altruistic verity
>>8004636I already did
>>8004496another one
>>8004658 nice
>>8004663Give blog now
everyone should collectively agree to be nicer to me
>>8004677kill yourself
>>8004677love yourself
>>8004693Jpegged is that you ? Why did you draw the wheels all fucked up
>>8004618the style is unappealing ngl
remembered how to linear after forgetting how to do it for a week - awardim trying to improve my life atm forcing myself to do something everyday is one thing but why do i feel even worse after actually doing it? i dont want to take ssris and lose my dick though>>8004609cool witch desigin, im kinda invested in this story ngl
How do I draw scenery? Not how to get good, just the process behind it. Something about blocking the shapes? What's your process like?
>>8004677I second this motion
>>8002993come on are we gonna see her being butchered or not
Figures in a speakeasy
>>8004754mmmmama... is that the pumpkin lady from skyward sword
>>8004756sorry just a random bbw
>>8004371is that shimeji?, also torso seems a bit long but i like this piece
>>8004618Pretty solid, but she feels kinda floaty, like she isn’t really putting her weight on either the table or the floor. Could probably be fixed by just adjusting the pose
>>8004569What?
I am gonna be honest. All photo reference pose packs for artists suck balls so hard. The poses are never appealing, cool, expressive and they are always stiff and awkward.Drawing them completely obliterated me ability to make a good pose.
>>8004793ive been saying this
>>8004793>All photo reference pose packs>they are always stiff and awkward.Stop downloading shit packs. Granted, there's a lot of them, but I think a bigger issue is the retarded amount of lens distortion some use or just trash lighting ruining what could have been a nice pose.
>>8004787Yeah, because the hips are straight. He's pretty trash despite how many poses he draws. I'm pretty sure his IQ is in single digits
>>8004793I think the whole point of reference pose packs is to give you more unusual poses. If you want simple common poses you can just use google>>8004803There's no need to be rude, anon...
>>8004793the ones on the Proko site all seem good, from Grafit Studio, Electra Studio, Obscura 29 and Satine Zillah
>>8004618>>8004787part of the reason she feels floaty is turning the table into a graphic element instead of it being drawn in 3d (especially the base not following the same ground floor perspective as the feet)
>>8004658>>8004496i can smell the estrogen
>>8004658cute whore
>>8004829Women usually don't like to draw girls that are that hot in my experience, even if they're fully clothed
>>8004829Post your work
>>8004855he won't, he feels threatened
this board keeps getting slower. i don't even get crab replies anymore.
More rendering shenanigans. Next I begin to learn texturing and also start to work with organic shapes.I'm starting to feel the form.
I was really in the zone while making this and had fun, but idk if it's worth turning into a finished drawing, what do you think?
>>8004893do you have something to learn from turning it into a finished drawing?
>>8004864some of the unreplied work is kinda hard to crit, I'll try with some>>8004751I see a lot of asymmetry in the shoulders of the womanI believe forms are not being felt, especially with the folds flattening the volumes of bothconsider your use of value, right now you're placing / wasting a lot of it on the table, when it should be used around your focal points>>8004733the image is hard to read from the thumbnail, which suggests that the value structure is messygrouping your values would help with this, and avoid puting your lightest and darkest values next to each other in areas that are not the focal point>>8004587cute scene, I really like the simple storytelling in itthe perspective is interesting but gets distorted the further from the sofa chair, especially noticible around table in the bottomthe space around the chair feels empty, I'd add some domestic props to make it more livelyI'm not sure about the type of light you're using, the windowsill gets another light from somewhere else, and there doesn't seem to be any light falloff in the floorit's also pretty strange to have a light turned on that close by when you're not reading a book
>>8004896It's just that I've just realised that there's an opportunity cost with painting Vs figure drawing, and I should probably choose one to focus on, but I enjoy both si idk what to do
>>8004855So that you could talk shit about? Xaxaxa
>>8004893>>8004905the sword is a flat sticker, at least turn it into a 3d shape before moving onthink about the hand grip and the perspective the handle would need to be in order for it to make sense
>pity mass replygrim
>>8004910Should I turn the sword into a 3d object or should I make the hand grip it so that the current shape makes sense? What would read better as a silhouette?
>>8004917I think the perfect profile view is unnatural, but the silhouette is coolI'd tilt the sword slightly so that it actually reads as a 3d form but keeps a similar silhouette, and adjust the hand so that it grips it properly
>>8004915I didn’t get anything… be grateful!
Muh gestures and forms are ass also colorsHow do i fix my gesturese and forms
>>8004935cute
thinking of taking the /3/ pill and just making 3d art. i just want to make indie games tbqh. i don't think i want to subject myself to years of CBT grinding perspective and gesture and whatnot. i don't have enough years left in my life. if i learn anatomy in 3d it will help if i ever feel like doing 2d again.
>>8004947>he thinks 3D is a fast path
>>8004551yes i left the thread out of embarrassment :(
>>8004949it's not fast but it's more technical and analytical than intuitive and i think that's something i can handle
>>8004947I learned to draw because of gamedev toobut it turns out art is much more fun and less of a grind than making gamesalso >>8004949
>>8004954i feel like i am squandering my actual talents by not coding and using blender. i know my way around a computer but i basically have aphantasia.
hey guys, what do you think of my 3 months progress>>8004935theyre not stiff, dont let stiffschizo gaslight you
>>8004897hey man, thanks for the feedback, i think youre right about the domestic props, initially i wanted the floor to have some kind of wooden texture but, well i have no idea how to do it and im scared to tryi made an attempt to completely revamp the lighting, i picked topdown lighting cuz i felt it needed a neutral light rather than something too atmospheric like directiona llight from the window or loca llight from the reading lamp>the perspective is interesting but gets distorted the further from the sofa chair, especially noticible around table in the bottomThat was the idea, i can understand that it doesnt look appealing but i dont think i've made any mistakes in my vision on that matter
>>8004959Proportions are way off, start from the top again I say.
>>8004968whats off though
>>8004947funny, I'm the exact opposite. I've been a 3Dfag for years now, done it all, low poly, mid poly, PS1 & PS2 style environments, sculpting etc, and I now find myself here because I'm fucking sick of it I suppose it depends entirely on what visual fidelity and style you're targeting, but prepare to start pulling your hair out at one point or another assuming it's a 3D game, you would have to learn: modelling, UV unwrapping, texturing (environments, characters and props), rigging, animating, weight painting, lighting, level blockout and design (good fucking luck doing this in blender btw), basic sound design, coding, collision. the list likely goes onoptionally: creating your own textures (basic image editing is more or less essential even if you don't make them from scratch since photo textures can only do so much), high to low poly baking, texel density management (depending on whether it's PS1 style)>if i learn anatomy in 3d it will help if i ever feel like doing 2d again.the whole 2D 3D overlap is a bit of a meme. however I would argue that 2D artists have the advantage going into 3D than the opposite, since they'll have a stronger understanding of form, proportion, appealing design, an ability to handpaint models and create textures, the ability to create character turnarounds to model over, and an easier time sculpting since they'll have a better understanding of anatomy from the get-go so they're not having to learn how to sculpt and learn anatomy at the same time I'd just caution switching between the two and really laser focus on one, so you don't end up like me having wasted roughly 5 years or so on something they don't enjoy. 3D might feel more intuitive to you, as it does for me, but I can't say I enjoy it much at all. if you hate drawing with a passion and find that 3D sparks joy, I guess go for it. idk man do whatever the fuck you gotta dopic related is some of my last stuff, so you know I'm not just talking shit
>>8004966looks very nice, a lot of improvementhaving multiple characters share a space that feels real is tough
>>8004970Decide how many heads tall you want the figure to be, crotch is always the midpoint.He’s really short in general and it looks like the legs are too short relative to the torso
>>8004981so what you cant be short now? are you a fucking foid? sorry he's not a 6'3" chad, whore
comment was too long to add this in >>8004956>i know my way around a computer but i basically have aphantasia.then what would stop your 3D work from looking as bad as your 2D work? granted you needn't worry about perspective, but that alone won't stop it looking amateur, it will just be more technically accurate amateur work
>>8004956>aphantasiaDoesn't exist.
first time actually doing a background is this ok
>>8004997Looks great. Feels somewhat unfinished but I think you're going for a more painterly look.
>>8004775yes that is shijima!
>>8004022ryuko sex
thoughts? the girl is from pregmata and the skulls from https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/skull-proportions-key-landmarks-20c0f43e3778481c830978709d784681
>>8005024I'm trying to really really really hard not to bully you. But you're not making it easy.
>>8004935I think they look alright, can you give an example of figs that you don't find stiff>>8004966very appealing texture you've added to the shadows
>>8005053Clean and appealing but the arm on the top right image looks wonky perspective-wise imo.
>>8004665Sorry anon , you flatter me but i have no blog , I just draw :(
>>8004983>then what would stop your 3D work from looking as bad as your 2D work?3d removes a few dimensions of complexity from art. there's no perspective. there's no gesture. you don't have to worry about visualizing the forms because you can construct them with precision and view them from every angle. if you do have to draw something, it's an orthographic projection without the need for anything like pose, perspective, shading, etc. it just needs to serve as a plan for the modeler.>>8004989aphantasia may not be real, but my patience is real and i have less of it the older and more geriatric i get.
>>8005001its very unfinished im just trying to get like the basic idea and colors in and then i have to figure out how to render all this
>>8004977i have dabbled in low-poly and it's fun. might try actually sculpting this time and see if i don't get filtered just like 2d art.
>>8004935I don't think your figures are stiff, but they do feel a bit ambiguous. You need to exaggerate the poses more, especially the angles and overlaps to make the intended action as clear as possible. For example, on the left side it's obvious that the figure is bending, but on the right side it's hard to tell whether it's bending or standing upright. I think adding a bit more overlap would help sell the pose, added an example of what I'm referring to.I think you draw the individual parts well, but you have some trouble connecting them, especially around the neck and shoulders, the waist, and the ankles. That said, your drawings are really cute. Keep going!>>8004888Cool job! Check out Witch Hat Atelier, there is some great hardlight hatching in there>>8004613Looking good! Keep going!>>8004596I wish I could do this this cleanly in trad. I need to practice more. Great job, I love it.
i think i'm just involuntarily creative, bros. i have the compulsion to create but i'm not good at it.
>>8005097You think people are here cuz they think they're any good at art either? Just do it, post, and keep going.
>>8005097You could always practice to get better instead of complaining about not being good
>>8005058>>8005053the hand should be bigger, because it's closer to us
>>8005144It's all in your mind anon.
>They visited the pier together
>>8005034do it, I know I'm permabeg trash, and I want to get better, so I need all the feedback I can get
i think i will seek crit like way less often if ever and just study lmao. when i improve infinitesimally per drawing and keep making the same mistakes every time, i understand why i get no feedback.
>tfw returning to the wagie cagie starting tomorrowfuck fuck FUCK
>>8005168fuckin pisses me off man
>>8005168lasted two weeks in my last wage cage, couldn't tolerate it.I think my search for a wfh job is finally paying off, I might've found something.
Complete beginner. I want to be able to sketch landscapes while I travel. I hate watching YouTube tutorials (I don't actually learn anything 90% of the time) and I just enjoy drawing without really know how. Any tips? I'm not a fan of trying to learn things through theory. Is "just draw" bad advice? I'm very busy, working 48+ hours for the next few weeks, but I'm doing this for one hour after work to relax and I hope I can make semi decent progress. I have pen and pencils at disposal.
>>8005154It’s really not
>>8005196are you sketching from life, or is this from imagination? if it's the former and you want to hone your observation skills without having to resort to youtube, the Keys to Drawing book is great
>>8005196You just answered your own question. Keep doing what you're doing.
>>8005200From pics but I want to upgrade to real life asap. Is it wrong to not be completely faithful to what im copying? Sometimes there's elements that won't look clear what they're supposed to be (aka i can't render it) or just outright look like it would look bad. So I only use the reference for the first ten mins before ditching it.I have enough space to carry around one book so maybe I'll buy it.>>8005202Fair enough. It's just every single YouTube video and course seems to emphasise drawing cubes and tubes, etc. Feels like learning grammar and praying you'll learn a language that way.
>>8005210>Feels like learning grammar and praying you'll learn a language that way.I've briefly studied this style of language teaching but never made that connection when it came to art.
>>8005024>>8005158Take the anime pill, trust me.Start thinking about leaving details out of your drawings, like you don't need to draw every strand of the eyelashes and hair.Her noses are too pudgy, I'd use shadow to imply most of the nose, make the nostrils really small, large nostrils are always ugly looking.
>>8005215>posts emoji tier shit
>Have cool idea>Draw it>It's shitsuch is life in /beg/istan
>>8005215>posts kinoI don't like how you didn't draw the overlap between the ear/jaw and the neck
ongoing study (have to call it quits for now due to work tomorrow reee)at least i learned some stuff, so thats nice
>>8005221That's just how anime heads are. People leave details out and let the viewers imagination do the rest of the work.That's not to say you can't bridge the gap between the jaw and ear, just that it's hard to make look right.
>>8004572>>8005225cute
>>8005226in your picrel the bottom of the ear doesn't go straight into the neck. yes man you omit stuff for the imagination but you should give it enough 'hints'
>>8005229shhh>>8005215This is amazing, great work!>>8005226Exactly! You're absolutely right!
