So I hear this shit is on version FIVE now? It was pretty full featured (though shit UI/UX/lots of unexpected behavior/slow/shit/not great at painting) for basic manga creation already by ver 2 from what I saw, and yet THREE FULL VERSIONS LATER it STILL doesn't leverage the GPU? Do I have that fucking right? I've written them to use the GPU for years now, wtf. Everyone go write them here if you agree https://support.clip-studio.com/ja-jp/contact/opinion-request/_problem? but damn why is CSP always feature bloating shit no one needs. Like animation shit kek!
>>8008712I thought this was an art critique board not a software review board.
>>8008723ah shit my bad then. but honestly would /g/ be a better place? i doubt it
Japs aren't known for their cutting edge software for a reason
>>8008712Photoshop fag here, eat shit it's your turn now to suffer the Jeet/vibecoding slowdowns, hope you have 16 GB of Ram free
>>8008712Honestly I just accepted I am on version 1.X until I can't figure out how to run it on new devices anymore. I don't need their webtoon accelerators. they went hard to target that audience which kinda makes sense from a profit perspective. the 3000 varients of reincarnated as a villainess with a crappy but hot fiance don't draw themselves and being speacialized for that was a legit market gap
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>>8009436literally none of that applies to actual painting/drawing/coloring or even 3d modelling lmao
>>8008731/g/ is the AI board. Software isn't relevant there.
>>8008901Nta, but i use an old gaming laptop with old battery and the moment i unplugged that shit while using photoshop it will drain my battery from 100 to 0 under 10 minutes because apparently photoshop utilize my gpu (the biggest powerdrainer in gaming laptop especially pre 2022 ones like me) to make zooming in and zooming out 'smoother'. Never had the same problem with csp.I do agree with op point that csp is full of bloat though. I think celsys want to make csp as some kind of multimedia superapp instead of making another dedicated software for different purpose like what adobe did with their suite. Knowing how submissively grateful nips are, i think it will never change and the software will keep bloating until god knows what will happen in there
>>8008731don't listen to them. This board has become a defacto general art community where crits are only given when asked for.
>>8008712CSP would be amazing if it actually took full advantage of your hardware, and didn't need to pause for 2 mins because you rotated a group of layers and is only using 1 core to process it. I'll probably never move away from SAI because of it, it just fucking works, doesn't have a launcher, lets me use it on multiple PCs with no issues
>>8008712They are japanese, they are NOT gonna listen to you, SPECIALLY if you are not japanese, they have their sick mantra of ''JUST GET USED TO IT''
>>8008712after switching to a subscription model, they need to change version numbers constantly to encourage perpetual license users to buy new licenses.
>>8009768>Knowing how submissively grateful nips are, i think it will never change and the software will keep bloating until god knows what will happen in therenightmare fueli hope everyone pirates their software
>>8008712They keep adding things because they're trying justify the subscription service.
>>8008712they should offer perpetual licenses on mobile too, i hate it when software developers treat their mobile customers like renters. i also haven't checked recent versions but it ran like shit in a-series ipads, like bro they didn't invent m-series chips until 2020 and csp was first released on 2017, the first ipad pro released in both 2015 and 2016 had an a9x chip, japanese invented vibe coding before it was a thing i swear.but celsys will never learn. they'd rather go bankrupt than rethink about their monetization ane optimization. thank fucking god artstudio pro exists. i hope someone reverse engineers .sut files one day.
>>8010446>>8010887horrible incentive model
>>8010934>but celsys will never learn. they'd rather go bankruptAre they going downwards? God I hope so. I thought .sut files were already partially reverse engineered (At least an LLM told me that xP)>thank fucking god artstudio pro existsah it's iOS only I can't use it :(
Celsys is based for not taking stupid suggestions from westoids such as>HURR DUURR PLZ OPTIMIZE CSP TO USE 188^2 COREZ IN MUH 5090 GAMING PC SO I CAN ROTATE 47 LAYERS DERRP
>>8008712all of these updates and i still only use the basic features from 1.0 i bought like 10 years ago. i don't see a point to upgrade>>8010887this
>>8011674a bootlicker's fingers typed this
>>8011668i'm not a /biz/ guy so i wouldn't know, but they shifted so hard suddenly for no reason it is bizarre. the app was always subscription based on mobile, so some of the scum was already there, but nerfing the frequency and the percentage of sales, then putting a how to purchase flowchart in front of their customers was a choice for sure. there was a write-up on reddit that went into more detail finances wise but i can't find it anymore, i think op either deleted their account, messages or more.it also exists on mac but it's unfortunately walled garden exclusive beyond that. closest thing to ps and csp is krita with scripts probably. krita's brush engine is intricate yet behind, if they only improved it and added pigment mixing krita could have the reputation of blender.
>>8013067Thanks for the writeup.
