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Previous: >>7990992
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>krenz透视第16期2025【画质高清有12期课件】| Krenz Perspective - Session 16 (2025)
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>kk零基础色彩训练营第1期2025年12月【画质高清有课件笔刷】| KK Zero-to-Hero Color Bootcamp - Session 1 (December 2025)
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>KK速寫團練第 0 期 / Krenz - Figure Drawing Practice
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So all of you speak chinese, or something?
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NEED HIDE 3 ASAP
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>>8019823
Yes, desu.
>>
So the order is:
1. >>8019812 Krenz - Figure Drawing Practice
2. >>8019810 Krenz Perspective - Session 16 (2025)
3. >>8019811 KK Zero-to-Hero Color Bootcamp - Session 1 (December 2025)

Is >>8019812 the so-called Krenz Zero? Or is it something else?
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my gainz stopped until I can get Hide 3
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>>8020710
zero in this case stands for season 0, it is the figure drawing one
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>>8020710
>Krenz Roadmap
https://krenzartwork.com/blog/category/7
-Zero Basics Line Training Camp / 零基礎線條訓練營
-Zero Basic Color Training Camp / 零基礎色彩訓練營
-Figure Drawing Practice / 速寫公會
-Perspective and Structure / 透視與結構
-Dynamics and Composition / 動態與構成
-Light and Shadow and Color / 光影與色彩
-Perspective and Structure DLC / 透視與結構正課/DLC
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>>8021228
>>8021247
I just gets more confused. Especially since the link https://krenzartwork.com/blog/category/7 just tries to categorize your skill level, and recommends a suitable course. The lowest level doesn't even recommend kindergarten/zero/Basics Line Training Camp.

>-Zero Basics Line Training Camp / 零基礎線條訓練營
So is this the kindergarten zero?

>-Zero Basic Color Training Camp / 零基礎色彩訓練營
Are the first two together the kindergarten zero?

>-Figure Drawing Practice / 速寫公會
The chinese characters don't perfectly match >>8019812 >KK速寫團練第 0 期 / Krenz - Figure Drawing Practice.

>-Perspective and Structure / 透視與結構
Also doesn't match >>8019810 >krenz透视第16期2025【画质高清有12期课件】| Krenz Perspective - Session 16 (2025)

Is it like the NMA online courses, where some of the teachers keep slightly changin the title and content of the courses?

In that case, what's the correct order for the stuff that are leaked from Krenz? Ignoring what's offered on the website. Ideally subbed. If anyone knows.
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>>8021700
Before unlocking the holy grail that is krenz course, you need to study Chinese for 5 years first. Duh.
That's why you're confused. You're not even qualified to enter kindergarten.
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>>8021700
I think order should be:
kindergarden
figure drawing practice
color basic
perspective
composition
color and light
the dlc one
>>8021703
before having permision to learn to draw you need to be fluent in chinese
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in case anyone is starting krenz perspective , here's the sketchfab library it uses
https://sketchfab.com/848428287
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What's the point of discussing order when 98% of /ic/ won't make it past the first 2?
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Is there something like krenz for gaijin that don't want to learn Chinese for 10 years?
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Asked in the book general but got nothing, and to some extent I expected that because I sorta doubted there'd be a dedicated book on the subject matter. Is there a really good preferably very comprehensive course for shape design specifically? I'm running into a gap with producing, intentionally, really pleasing shapes rather than just shapes that are serviceable for their role.
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the secret chinese knowledge of ripping off tomfox
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>>8022026
Is “shape design” yet another /ic/‘s nonsense like “appeal”? I thought “appeal” was a well-known concept, until I learned it’s not. I was so embarrassed.
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>>8022074
Is it? Maybe? I'm not attempting to follow something I picked up on /ic/, I just don't know what else you would call what I'm referring to because any sort of "pleasing shapes" or something to that effect just gives you back mid tier abstract art stuff about arranging 2D primitives in a composition. It seems to me (could be dunning-krugering) a lot of artists use shapes in functional roles, they draw good shapes but in service to the picture and then what makes the picture great is rendering and color and other stuff. Like an 99/100 drawing where 15 is shape and 84 is from other stuff. But there are artists where the first thing that leaps out in shape, and the rest is subdued and in service to elevate a drawing that is already great without the other stuff.

Like pic related (I've removed the color and surrounding composition, and balanced the values to scrub it down so that line and shape are largely what is left). It is a nice looking picture simply for the fact that somehow triangles are being drawn in an aesthetically pleasing way and If there is an in depth explanation from someone on what thoughts go into making a triangle or an oval or a series of cylinders look great just as they are. There is some of this out there, but it's extremely piecemeal in a way that is unhelpful, because it's usually like a brief comment in a course or book or what have you that is otherwise just about figure drawing or another broader subject or "I dunno, do studies of someone with good shapes I guess".
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>>8022071
>>8022074
holy summer newfags
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>>8022137
Yeah, yeah. We get it. You want everyone to leave and for /ic/ to die. Now kys.
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>>8019808
>Drapery Fundamentals Course by Steven Michael Hampton
That looks nice, i was searching for a course on drapery from imagination for a while now.
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>>8019808
Anons, y’all forgot about Hide 3 way too quickly
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>>8022308
The Marc Brunet of anime.
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>>8022013
krenz with subtitles, dubs and translated materials on the telegram group
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give me reasons to do Krenz
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>>8022332
No.
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>>8022308
I'm still waiting... hide 2 gave me new insights that no other instructor was able to provide...
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>>8022402
like what
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>>8019808
So do you guys actually give out your real phone number to use telegram?
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>>8022332
you have autism
like me, apparently
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>>8022500
His approach of using the glabella as a starting point helped me a lot in sketching heads from imagination
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>>8022579
i kneel
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>>8022512
before this country turned into totalitarism you could register phone numbers without id, today what you can do is buy fake nigerian number on the internet and use that account forever
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>>8022512

I openly tell the CIA to their face they can suck it.
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what's a braindead perspective course preferably in english
i feel like perspective is what's really stopping me from understanding form
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>>8022862
No such thing. They all suck in their own way.
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>>8022862
They are all good.
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>>8022308
Also Oriday's first course, don't forget guys.
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>>8023057
this one anon?
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>>8023208
Reupload, I don't use that shit, I'm anon.
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>>8022542
also didn't really think about how the 3 subdivision method generalizes to any odd (N+1) subdivision
kinda neat
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>>8022862
Marshall Vandruff old and new video course.
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which deltarunes
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>>8021700
>>-Zero Basics Line Training Camp / 零基礎線條訓練營
>So is this the kindergarten zero?
yes
kindergarten = Zero Basics Line Training Camp

>Are the first two together the kindergarten zero?
yes

>>8021700
>>-Figure Drawing Practice / 速寫公會
>The chinese characters don't perfectly match >>8019812(You) >KK速寫團練第 0 期 / Krenz - Figure Drawing Practice.
>
>>-Perspective and Structure / 透視與結構
>Also doesn't match >>8019810(You) >krenz透视第16期2025【画质高清有12期课件】| Krenz Perspective - Session 16 (2025)
same shit
>Is it like the NMA online courses, where some of the teachers keep slightly changin the title and content of the courses?
yes
>In that case, what's the correct order for the stuff that are leaked from Krenz? Ignoring what's offered on the website. Ideally subbed. If anyone knows.
>>8021247
this
you can find everything on tg, - Perspective and Structure DLC.
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I was checking old threads, and there was even Krenz Composition. Unfortunately the link is down.
This is getting ridiculous.
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There's a recent-ish torrent (2 months old) that has Krenz, and Tenten, and others' courses.

magnet:?xt=urn:btih:f42524fc513104565afc7f99bda1df3a321d6ace&dn=%E8%AF%BE%E7%A8%8B&tr=udp://tracker.openbittorrent.com:80&tr=udp://tracker.opentrackr.org:1337/announce

But it's dead. If you're confused why such a young torrent is already dead, it's because chinese mainlanders are bastards. They just leech and disappear afterwards. If you've made any torrent and shared it on 4chan or elsewhere, you know what I'm talking about. It's not so bad for more generic torrent in English because there are a bunch of high moral whites that will seed it. But torrents made specifically for mainlanders like this don't tend to stay alive for long. People blame chinese AI slop companies, but I think the average mainlanders are just that selfish. And non-Chinese people who didn't know this would just stop seeding because they think they have seeded terabytes, there must be enough people seeding it now. Not knowing the evil nature of the chinese.
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where is krenz 0 kindergarten or whatever it's called
>>
>>8023232

no
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>>8023682
C'mon do it, you already uncarelessly used your phone number unlike me!
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>>8023514
>But torrents made specifically for mainlanders like this don't tend to stay alive for long

The reason is that those bastards use PikPak, a cloud service that caches a large number of torrent files uploaded to the internet, this means that even if a torrent has no seeds or seeders, you may still be able to download the file through PikPak.

However, there are limitations: you need to pay for a membership to download larger files, and the free version only allows you to download up to six files, with a maximum size of 6 GB each. After that, a subscription is required.
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>>8023767
>PikPak
Oh I was wondering wtf was that. It started to show up on my google search.
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>>8023678
>KRENZ Zero Basics Line Training Camp / 零基礎線條訓練營
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>>8023697
>uncarelessly
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>>8022137
>holy summer newfags
not even what summer means you blatant troll
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>>8023469
NTA but thank you, this is helpful
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>>8023888
Who is better Murata or Krenz?
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>>8023469
not that anon but i just joined the tg group and have hard time finding the Perspective and Structure DLC and Zero Basic Color Training Camp on the members collab channel
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>>8022169
real, it feels like every other gen on the site wants to be a restricted club.
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>>8024093
your mom lole
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>Krenz Composition - Session 14 (2025) [HD Quality - Includes 10 Session Materials]
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>>8024277
>Composition
Easy skip.
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>>8024279
Why?
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>>8024285
Gotta make the people not look wonky first, before composition is of importance, ahDOY~
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Thanks for sharing. So we got most of Krenz stuff right? According tot the curriculum here >>8021247

1. >>8023888 >KRENZ Zero Basics Line Training Camp / 零基礎線條訓練營
aka Krenz Kindergarten Zero

2. >>8019811 >kk零基础色彩训练营第1期2025年12月【画质高清有课件笔刷】| KK Zero-to-Hero Color Bootcamp - Session 1 (December 2025)
aka Krenz Kindergarten Zero but color

3. >>8019812 >KK速寫團練第 0 期 / Krenz - Figure Drawing Practice

4. >>8019810 >krenz透视第16期2025【画质高清有12期课件】| Krenz Perspective - Session 16 (2025)

5. >>8024277 >Krenz Composition - Session 14 (2025) [HD Quality - Includes 10 Session Materials]

Looks like all got eng sub, except for the 1st Kindergarten Zero. Shit eng sub though. I think the figure and color even got dubs. AI dub? Dunno, haven't checked.

The only things missing (no equivalent) are:
- Light and Shadow and Color / 光影與色彩
- Perspective and Structure DLC / 透視與結構正課/DLC
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>>8024294
Is there any way someone can do subtitles or something for the first krenz course?
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>>8024323
no, you have to learn chinese first
https://gofile.io/d/zNHPbeHd
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>>8024329
Thank you!
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guyz, is this book legit? are there better sources for learning how to draw from imagination?
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>>8024358
https://online.fliphtml5.com/whcke/iopm/ forgot the link to the book
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>>8024358
draw from reference -> draw from memory + rotation -> draw from imagination
Shuhari.
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>>8024361
huh you're right

it helps a lot if i imagine real precisely a pose before drawing it
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>>8024358
https://e-hentai.org/g/4117255/e0bc73fd31/
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>>8024722
chinese book, but JAPAN
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>Krenz Color & Light - Session 16 (2025) [HD Quality - Includes 11 Session Materials]
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>>8024738
BASED.
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>>8024738
I was sold the moment you typed Chinese.
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>>8024358
This book opened my eyes to drawing arms using the approach deltoid>brachialis>radiobrachialis
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>>8024722
This looks more serious than the tenten book.
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>>8024897
Thank you. Wow, this one has translated materials.
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>>8022312
>The Marc Brunet of anime.
Is that a good or a bad thing
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>>8025043
pyw
>>
Who started the Krenz meme? I googled him and couldn't find a reason why you guys keep recommending him for anime-style. His artworks are not even that anime, it's that painterly-anime style. Looks more like what the chinese mainlanders or gaijins are doing. I wouldn't see his artworks and guess he's a Japanese illustrator.

Was he a famous pro? Perhaps one of his student is a successful illustrator or something?
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>>8025498
I did it here >>8022579
and I found this one on my phone
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>>8025551
Hes famous for making people become xerox machines fast. Literally one of the first things needed to become a drawfag.
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>>8022579
>>8025613
I kneel. Is this the power of chinese book, but JAPAN?
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>>8024722
Thanks. Greatly appreciate this because unlike Chinese I can actually read it.
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>>8025866
Se-senpai?
>>
Are there any relevant resources on classical drawing/art? Thank you
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>>8025964

no
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>>8026157
well shit :(
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>>8025613
nice bewbs
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>>8019808
I have 20 minutes a day to spare. I'd like to watch YouTube videos about drawing. Does anyone have any recommendations? I'm hoping for something like a person talking while they draw, explaining what they're doing. But I'm happy with anything.

I'm a fish farmer turned cable technician turned programmer turned forklift driver. I can learn anything and would be happy to have any of your suggestions SENPAI DESU THANKS
>>
>>8022579
>>8025613
great work and titties, anon
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>>8026877
Yeah, I also want someone at high level explain things while they draw. Think Baduk Doctor commenting while playing and reviewing matches.

I mean, imagine if 58mw drew while giving commentaries. Btw 58mw deleted/hid all of his livestreams. Waste of time expecting anything from this mentally unstable asians. Fucking asian jeans.

Unfortunately the ones who teach aren’t as good. Like chommang, mmmmonexx, hide, etc.
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>>8027031
How do you feel about that Marc Brunnet guy on YouTube? I like his personality and he seems cool, but lately his videos seem to be rehashing old subjects, like he's just creating content because he has to.

Like I know it's asking a lot, but it'd be cool if someone with great artistic skill were to draw for like 20 minutes, explain what they're doing, and do that everyday, and of course be drawing exactly the things I want to draw.

Obviously that's too much, but you get the point of the ideal I'm looking for.
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Nothing about anime-style backgrounds? Like for VN?
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>>8022071
>ripping off tomfox
Tomfoxdraws said that he's heavily inspired by Kim Jung Gi, so it goes back to Asia, just a different country.
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>>8027921
Is this even an isolated subject? Old anime used more elaborate traditionally painted backgrounds, new anime and most VNs just use the simpler regular anime approach to coloring and linework, but drawing buildings and trees instead of waifus. What would such a course even teach you? To use cell shadows instead of more traditional shading and what kind of colors to pick?

Feels like anything an "anime-style BG course" would tell you is just something already covered in any regular anime-style course about characters, except for background specific things (types of perspective and lighting, how to deal with foliage, etc) that you could likely get in better detail and explanation from some course on traditional (western) painting. Most anime BGs are really simple and the ones that are stand out tend to be the ones that just lean away from the simplification and towards just being regular painted/watercolor/concept art landscapes or scenes.

tl;dr watch regular landscape/environmental painting stuff, use anime lines and color palettes.
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>>8028797
wat
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>>8028808
Anon (you?) asked about courses on anime-style backgrounds, but anime-style backgrounds are just regular painted/drawn backgrounds with the same approaches to stylization/simplification that are applied to anime characters applied to environmental objects instead. Like being flat/cell-shaded, or fully lined.

e.g. an anime classroom is just painting a normal classroom, but with the lineart heavy approach of anime, and the colors/saturation typical to anime (the same ones that are happening to anime characters)

The higher quality that anime BGs tend to be, the more they are just regular landscape painting, not even particularly "anime" outside of the character stylization. So in my opinion, anon (or you or whatever) would be better off just doing a regular high quality anime course like any of the popular ones, and then watching videos or courses on the techniques used in normal landscape painting than looking for a thing that is specifically, isolated "how 2 draw animeVN backgroundz" which would likely just tell you stuff that was in the general anime courses and (some) stuff that was in the regular landscape painting.

$0.02, etc.
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>>8028814
wtf
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>>8027921
https://coloso.global/en/products/animebackgroundartist-jinhwang-us
Coloso has a lot of anime background courses. This one looks the most like generic anime-style VN backgrounds. Teacher has good resume too.
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guess who just spent 3 hours redubbing gook tutorials instead of drawing
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>>8029601
With your voice or AI? If it's with your own voice, you probably learned quite a bit. At least theoretical knowledge, or some yapping about drawing skill.
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>>8029636
no I just did a text to speech of the included english subtitles with AI because they suck to read
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>>8029601
that's cool and useful and you shouldn't feel bad for doing something that isn't drawing. negative attachment will only get in the way of you being able to draw in the end
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>>8030622
Slippery slope. You should feel bad if you wasted 3 hours AI-dubbing some random videos. It’s by design. So your brain can tell you to stop doing stupid shit.
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Are the Loomis books available in HD anywhere
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>>8023697
Wild Honda spotted
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>>8031979

no
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>>8031979
The one leaked is technically pretty hi-res. Just need to fix the orientation a little.
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Anyone got the Chyan asset?

https://coloso.global/en/products/asset-chyan
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>>8031994
I can do that. But I won’t. Imagine spending time fixing the orientation and whatnot, uploading it to e-h, annas, etc., and then those 3rd-worlder fuckers just make a high-quality bootleg. In the end, I will be the one who get chased by the law.
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>>8019808
Did JoshBlack stylized proportions ever get uploaded? I know his other stuff has been posted.

https://joshhblackart.gumroad.com/l/vbfok?layout=profile
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>>8023208
Thanks. Downloading.
>>8023232
>>8023697
I'll upload it for you.
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I did Hide's Head and Figure courses and they were utter shit. You guys overrate it too much.
Hopefully his third course is actually good.
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>>8035961
Bueno...eagerly awaiting a mirror.
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>>8035966
Do tell. Is it just standard figure drawing practices packaged as "omg figure drawing (Japan)"?
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>>8035966
pyw before and after
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>>8035968
Fucking site doesn't let me post the links, it keeps telling me the system thinks it's spam.
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>>8035961
>>8035968
Here:
https://pastebin.com/3Wh3hc0G
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>>8024722
Thank you.
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>>8035995
Thank you for uploading a mirror!!! HAHAHA!!!! YES!!!!!!
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>>8035985
>>8035989
Yes.
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>>8019812
YOOOOOOOOOOOO
THANKS ANON <3
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how do I watch krenz if i don't understand korean or english?
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>>8019808
Where is Hide 3? My tablet and I are covered in dust, waiting for Hide 3.
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>>8036297
Same...
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Does anyone have Yuming Li’s course? Please…
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>>8036483
TG
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FUCK KRENZ
that NIGGER yapping too much
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would someone kindly seed the ic torrent
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>>8036824
no, let it die, it's shit
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Any chance for this coloso chibi blender course by cartridge102?
https://coloso.global/en/products/3dartist-cartridge102-us
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>>8037665

no
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>>8037670
You sound nice
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could someone be a lamb and link me to this
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>Get oridays
>reach the figure in perpsective section
>okay, hardest part really. He probably has some depth
>6 minute video, get a pose as reference. Draw a box for perspective
>that's it
600 for this.
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>>8037963
https://krenzcushart.gumroad.com/l/ITxP
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>>8037969
i meant the course...
i don't know where my card is and they don't take paypal and direct bank transfers don't work in a timely manner. i tried to buy a pencil for 5 usd and ended up getting it refunded because after a week it never came
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>>8037967
Told you all Oridays shills, what you got in that course you could get in his YouTube videos.
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>>8037967
most courses are lazy cash grabs
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>>8037967
Is he actually japanese or just a low moral SEAnigger/chink/zainichi? The website says he speaks English and Japanese.
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>>8036279
translate the subtitles there are tools for that



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