If you are a /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.DO NOT REPLY to crabs, nodraws, over-analyzing schizos, retards that whine about how hard drawing is or talent debates and instead focus on posted works!fuck your links nigga just drawLast: >>8034961
reply if you made it to the op
>>8039920i was just going from newest post and including anything which had okay composition, or i could at least crop easily, didnt take images which had a ref inside it or were too bare bones
I CANT FUCKING DRAW FACES
>>8039924drawing faces requires creative writing ability
How were the Japanese able to draw like this in 1989 without drawing tablets, layers or stabilization?
trad have build in stab
>>8039944fsg this is Just a blocky ass silhouette + rendering, what would be hard about this in trad?
Sketch copying
>>8039914>My art from testing brushes made it to the OPKek, thank you.
>>8039944It just takes longer without those tools.
>>8039970The biggest thing to fix is the hip. Her hip is swaying to the side, but yours is straight, which makes your upper body and right leg look odd.
is this bad
i guess he doesnt look THAT bad from his worst anglehe reminds me of someone though... >>8039944photobashing, tracing, assistants, we've been over this no?
>>8040042I don't like how hair shape blends in to neck
I'm a pretty dire /beg/ as is evident, but how should i approach learning to paint digitally? I think sculpting with larger brush strokes and color picking is a lot more fun than trying to do clean lines, even though im kind of ass at it.I cant seem to make things feel three-dimensional, and i seem to get stuck in trying to "draw" even if im trying to paint. As in, I'm trying to outline my subject with the brush.Is there something you guys did/still do, to break away from that?
>>8040035how did I miss thatalso shoes and legs confuse me
>>8040067Sometimes I think about how I can help guys like you, but I'm always at a loss for words. Just keep trying my dude.
>>8040068same, all i can say is just draw
>>8040068>>8040070I've accepted that petting is just something that comes to one after enough grinding, guess I'll get it some time sooner or later as long as I keep grindingThanks anons
>>8040068>>8040070los retardados>>8040067sfgkuhagiubewtk wetjklqwltl2oi41o24u1924
>I've accepted that petting is just something that comes petting?
>>8040056try to do some of thesehttps://youtu.be/CCutI1NQK0A?t=170
>>8040075Thank you! I'll follow along to this when I next have a moment to sit down and do a longer study sesh.
>>8039924That’s a gift that’s reserved for the chosen few, and you were not chosen. Sorry.
>>8040040goofy stuff because im tired
>>8040074I struggle a lot with figuring out lighting on the fly like this, especially if I'm trying to draw from imagination. Would value studies help with this or is there something else you'd recommend?
Did this yesterday, was trying to make it sexually arousing but feel like I came short.
>>8040093I guess what I can say to the initial question is: try binary light,aka cel shading. It would force you to think about what is inside the contours and not allow you to wiggle away with vague brushing. Or maybe not. How can I recommend doing studies if it's something I'm avoiding? But it is something I believe is good to do, and everyone would say it is good for you. So yeah.
>>8040116it kind of sexual but horrifying
>>8040054maybe we just need bolder lines?
No Challenge?
>>8040144this is so ugly
currently in the process of ruining a nice looking sketch with terrible rendering
>>8040134I guess it works too. I'm just larping as art critic yea It looks better to me
sketches
Made a copy for practice. First time I tried inking a drawing and erasing the pencil afterwards, I like it much better than the bare pencils I did before.
>>8040227Copy better art tbqh, that guy doesn’t look too far out of /beg/ himself
hihihii
mew
>>8040248What's with the insanely high standards on this fucking board?You people would call Leonardo Da Vinci /int/ if you didn't know it's him beforehand
>>8040248That's a solid /int/ if anything.
Gesture drawing following Vilppu's Drawing Manual.It came out pretty well for a total beginner, I would say.It took me a whole hour, though. Kek.
>>8040262I drew the arm like this at first. I realized that if you quickly switch between both images, it looks as if they're dancing, because her arm goes up and down, while the characters in the Vilppu manual are jumping. Kek.
>>8039914are these proportions even remotely good?lefts is same as right except right has guidelines feel free to give me some pointers
First actual drawing in over 10 years.What obvious thing can I change to make it better?
>>8040264Tried fixing the left arm which looked oversized, and added a bit of detail (tits, collarbone, armpit).
>>8040116I think you need to zoom in quite a lot, as it stands I can't tell if I'm getting vored or she's getting a facial but you haven't drawn the cum yet. I could see other ways to make it less ambiguous like pointer teeth, more saliva or stretching her mouth with her fingers but zooming enough to have her ears touch the corners should improve it already
>>8040273goddamn how old are you anon?really nice
>>8040272step 1: learn to copy step 2: copy good art, don't make shit up
>>8040273Bro. The character looks good. I guess what you need is to work on background or scenery / composition.The city and road on the background kind of look as if they were floating in the middle of nowhere, and the dark strokes in front of the city and road (are those hills/mountains?) seem out of place and harm the perspective.Other than that, it looks really good to me.
Does anyone know good tutorials on textures I really suck at those
>>8040273nice
>>8040278that's, uh..huh...
>>8040288I can tell something changed, but not sure what.The breath fog is gone and the cloud is closer to her, is this a correction?
>>8040294I just cut off half of the image
>>8040297
>>804027729, thanks man
>>8040280Yeah I couldn't be assed making a detailed landscape. I'd like to find artists who do landscapes in minimalism style and learn from them.
>>8040273dont so obviously copy paste
>>8040285nicebut I would move character to centerI'm just telling instead of trying to move it myself
>>8040317You mean the clouds?Yeah, I used a brush preset and didn't change anything.Thanks for pointing it out
>>8040277why do you need to know its age weird ass fat fucking man looking bitch
>>8040328you need some crucial dick down your throat
>>8040285this is really unreadable, like the concept is actually very cool, and your stab at it is admirable, but basically what ends up being visible is1. The heart2. A huge circle which under closer inspection appears to be some sort of water surface (but why is only that part illumianted3. A mangled figure that doesnt flow with the compolsition4. another figure which should be a major part of the composition but it's so nonvisible its basically an easter egg
not sure if my digital coloring works all that well with my inking
>>8040354the palette is pretty sorry
oekaki hates me wtf why
>>8040365Perspective is way off here. I'm still working on the same myself, I usually miff the hands or feet too. It's a good start, keep at it!
>>8039914Today’s life study
comp sketch
I liked it a lot while I was making it, but now that is finished, the right arm and left leg look very weird.
>>8040301Literally just looks like anime girl face posted over a photo
>>8040248to many of you guys equate stuff that personally appeals to you to skill level. that's int anon
>>8040386tried to help u a bit anon
i made a UNSC Sabre knockoff for my WIP floor plans of a kilometer-long covenant light cruiser, which i have postponed until i can get a 3D model of it in october.i'm working in M6.667 scale (1 pixel = 15 centimeters). this is slightly smaller than the spirit dropship plans i made before. i want to make some other vehicles too.
>feel annoyed by ugly beginner art>feel annoyed by humblebraggart talentfag art
es ist over für mich
Just passing by to say hi. Haven't posted here in a while
>>8040383those bodies dont belong in the same 3d space with the same gravitytranslation: they have different pitch
>>8040364check out my thread >>>/i/836987
>>8040472nta but can you explain?
thread challenge: not killing yourself in despair
>>8040482one cheek of miku's ass is higher than the other, aka they are rotated about the x axis, the face and the rest of the body are consistent with that so basically that says that she is rotated in one way, while teto is vertical, so she is rotated another way, honestly teto as a whole is a mess like the perspective on the head/face is also wrong and her tits are way too high up, upper back is too round etctechnically miku is wrong even on her own because to rotate herself that way you actually need ropes (lol) or to rotate the camera about her (like the earth goes around the sun, not about its own axis) and you'd be looking down from above but her neck is like stiff and the face is straight onits all a poorly thought out mess
I remembered I CANT FUCKING DRAW and now I am depressed again.
>>8040482Miku looks as if you're looking straight at her but Teto looks as if you're looking up to her (she's looking down on you), so there's a mismatch of perspectives.
>>8040501A simple solution would be to move Miku lower or Teto higher. That way Miku is sitting down (and you're at her eye level) while Teto is standing up and looking down on you (while you look up at her).
>>8040491Really nice.
>>8040491You remind me of Tsukareta. He has tons of nice art in this sort of sketchbook.https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=tsukareta_san
>>8040450I haven't seen much of your work, but the middle panel has almost the same composition as a previous one of yours that was set in a kitchen. So I think you might be recycling the same shot a bit too often. I'd encourage you to try giving more variety to the shots you use.I know much about this, so I just gave it a try to make the suggestion clearer, I'm roughly following some of the ideas from this book >>8033224>>8040494>>8040501I don't see what you're saying. Maybe an edit to make it clearer what you mean would be helpful to all of us.
another draft
Started learning to draw this month, figured I'd try gestures today, does it look like I'm understanding this shit? Done in order of top to bottom.
>>8040504>>8040507Thanks
>>8040531Really cute anon, I hope coloring goes well
>>8040541Ty, I’ll do my best. Might need to study metal a bit beforehand
Havent been able to draw much the past two days, been replaying ds3. Watched Texas Chainsaw massacre 2, an amazing movie. I think I'll copy a still from that.My figures are still super wonky, I can't seem to get the proportions right (everything always comes out wide). Things just don't turn out 3d.>>8040533You need to train your eye to see things as they are and not how they feel. Drawing figs is too soon for you, try insects and rocks
I made dis a week ago is there anything glaringly wrong with thisI drew it on paper and then tried to digitally color it
>>8040577I'm confused, isn't gesture drawing about catching the feel of the pose by drawing just the lines of action?
>>8040544study roughed up dirty metal without sheen and use rustic (red, yellow) colorsthank me later
Can someone look up if this artist had how to draw books
>>8040383mega nice
>>8040626ask mr google, lazybones
I think this is the best portrait practice that I've done so far. I'm still a fucking newbie, but I felt rather happy
Got my ass beat last thread so trying something different, still in the aim of working on inking
>>8040517Thanks. I wanted to give this kind of shot another try but this time giving more attention to the background. I didn't think about how repetitive it could be.
I might be retarded for real man I just can't focus on any course or book at all
>>8040626it says he used AI right there
ball mech, might color later
>>8040636kek
>>8040383Very nice!
It just looks... flat, idk. Dip pens and tombow brush pens. I've been drawing for a month now
>>8040691Need to learn perspective and construction. Start with a sphere or box, decide which way it’s facing in space, go from there. Need to keep the 3D form in mind even for angles that are close to direct frontal.Use Loomis, use hide, doesn’t really matter who you learn from
i’m learning to use procreate, and studying still lives. why does the rendering here appear muddy and artificial? why are the forms unconvincing? thank you for any feedback.>>8040691your accuracy is very high. i like this illustration. you have a high amount of shading and detail on every part of the image, so it appears flatter than it has to. im referring to the hair and lips here, you shouldn’t draw every individual strand. also the dot hatching on her face can look like stubble, and you don’t want that. but this is a lovely piece of art>>8040638really nice anon>>8040633i enjoy this art. have you thought about experimenting with heavier line weight in areas where for example the figures are facing away from the light, or are pressing against other forms? you do it a little, but your lines overall appear uniform. i like your anatomy and the hatching on the face of the rightmost creature>>8040631you should be happy with this anon, it looks good! next time consider making your hatching slower and more even. i know it’s tedious, but careful uniform pencil hatching can really level up your illustrations. i know you know the anatomy of the ear is not there, but im saying it anyway. take a look at a 3d model on sketch fab, an astro head from google images, or the ear pages in anatomy for sculptors if you’d like a way to learn; the ear is an annoying little bastard. good luck
Didn't know what to draw, so used myself as reference
>>8040755
>>8040691mogs me but I think you need to simplify things a bit, there's only so much detail you can get when you have five markers that don't blend into one another.
>>8040744because digital is harder, good luck
>>8040694It pains me but you're right. Trying to find motivation to use loomis style for faces starting now.>>8040744Yes the hair thingy, definitely trying to focus on drawing larger locks next time instead of wasting time on individual strands. And yeah the stubble...>>8040694I agree, I guess I could've blended the water-based markers but I just left it as it is. To be honest, I like more using only ink and diluting it for washes. pic relatedThanks for the feedback!
>>8040755why are you bald
>>8040778same reason my face looks like that.
finished>>8040776nice, reminds me of silent hill
>>8040781and the previous sketch
>>8040638>>8040781>>8040784Very cool!Fewer and fewer people dare tackle mecha art.
>>8040799i don't think many people have an interest in drawing or looking at mecha. i certaintly don't
Finished this drawing last night. I did some things differently on this drawing; I told you guys last time I tend to put the base colors, shading, highlights etc all on one layer, but this time I made it a point to keep them on separate layers. I also made a color palette off to the side that I'd eyedrop in rather than, well, not doing that (normally I'd just eyedrop in the drawing itself, but I figured the palette would keep the colors more consistent). Another thing I did was sprinkle in some red along the terminator, because I was watching a Marc Brunet video on rendering skin and learned about 'subsurface scattering.' Anyway, I'm working hard to git gud guys, hopefully this drawing isn't seen as beg tier as my last one. But all feedback welcome, I appreciate the honesty I get from here.
>>8040806nice
>>8040638Floating feet lol
eugh
Do I even deserve to try and lineart this or should I just start over/next copy practice
>>8040846No, your accuracy is low as fuck. Do a dozen more. I don't know what takes you so much time, but most of the time should be taken by measuring instead of putting lines down.
>>8040846sure, but before moving on to the next stage overlay it and fix the biggest mistakes
>>8040517>I don't see what you're saying. Maybe an edit to make it clearer what you mean would be helpful to all of us.What I said is pretty straightforward, though. Did you try doing what I said (placing Miku lower and/or Teto higher) and look for yourself whether it works?
>>8040533>>8040586Yes, it is, but the problem is that you aren't catching the feel. You're trying to imitate the posture rather than recreating it, and that's why it doesn't come out well.I'm a beginner too, but something I realized is that you have to EXAGGERATE the gesture so that it looks similar to the pose. If you try to draw it very closely to the model, it looks wrong or stiff or clumsy, but if you exaggerate the pose, the gesture actually comes pretty close to the reference model.
>>8040631It's pretty good. You're already mogging me, kek.
>>8040878flat, stiff, stagnating
>>8040880Any advice on how to improve?
>>8040880nta but try playing around with perspective and gesture drawing, I find your drawings "correct" but mostly stiff.
>>8040883nta, I like the sitting girls at the bottom and do not like the standing girls above them. I'm sure the original girls were prettier.
>>8040883If from imagination, then doodle less, study more and use more ref. If using ref, stop regurgitating symbols and focus more on accuracy.
>>8040883>>8040878>How to improveJust hope you are born in Brazil in your next life. A million copies and nothing appealing just like a lesbian Pawell
>>8040883increase detailif not exaggerateyou can have either but you cant have neither
>>8040804sexo
I feel like I did well enough but at the same time I feel like there's something wrong, yet I can't tell what it is.What do you guys think?>hurr durr u cant post pics cause ip range banned!!>register email hurr durr>you wanna register email? solve these 6 vague time consuming captchas>sorry bud you failed one, innvalidd!!!!>oh you received the verification email?>solve these 6 vague time consuming captcha AGAIN>oh you failed one of the captchas?>REPEAT AGAIN SEND ANOTHER EMAIL SOLVE 6 CAPTCHAS AGAIN THEN CLICK ON EMAIL AND SOLVE 6 CAPTCHAS AGAIN AND DONT YOU FUCKING FAIL OR ILL FORCE YOU TO SOLVE 9999999999 CAPTCHAS MOTHERFUCKERI fucking hate this website.
>>8040975https://files.catbox.moe/oz0i7g.JPG
>>8040976>I feel like there's something wrong,well the main thing of it is executed fine but the proportions are all wacky
>>8040976head too big and her torso is a little too wide so she looks like a man
>>8040978>>8040981Ah I see. Thank you very much.
>>8040883You don't get "advice" here. You only get vague critique made by no draws. They only describe what you already know. You're one of the most committed art students here doing a hell of a grinding marathon, and these crabs are just pointing fingers at you while you pass by above them up in the sky. Just keep doing what you're doing,
>>8040878Your style is pretty similar to that of Mikeymegamega. Are you learning with his tutorials by any chance?
>>8040988but anon.. you're a nodraw too
>>8040883draw a portrait
>>8040579Critque me you fucks
>>8041016Do more than one image a week
>>8041016>>8040579legs super short, skirt has no volume, skirts has no design, tight fitting clothes because you cant draw drapery, mannish proportions, ugly lines like really ugly, breasts stuck in an akward place between pecs and breasts, meaningless pose
>>8040975>>8040976https://files.catbox.moe/lmdofb.JPGI think it improved a little bit: I made the head smaller, the shoulders and waist narrower, and the hips wider.
>>8041037Man, this is more time consuming than I thought. Before I know it, 3 hours have passed some basic shitty gesture or figure that doesn't even look good. Kek.Gotta keep up.
contour copy after a 2 week break from drawing
>>8040579I like what you drew so far. I saved this from the previous thread pretty hot figure >8037924 (if this is you, looks very similar anatomy wise)Your style should allow you to draw a lot more, keep that minimalist style and draw more. The main problem people has is to take too much time to make a piece, instead of making at least a drawing per day, they make a drawing per week, (if even). Keep this simple style and draw as much as you can, you will refine it as you go.>>8041011nah-uh.. hehe..>>8040882You're so fucking good.. all of your stuff is Artstation-tier slop>>8040491Hatch god>>8040450The goatee guy is always drinking something! lol I love this space sci-fi shit so much, pretty cool
>>8040579maybe add more mass to the back of her skull. breasts are confusing or slightly inaccurate here. have my beg redline. I agree that her proportions are masculine, because her shoulders and rib cage are wide, and the musculature on her arms is very defined. I kind of like it as a stylistic choice. she’s cute.
spent forever on this just happy to have finished the lines
Hello, /beg/. May I ask for some advice? How does one handle the intense shame/despair that accompanies drawing as an utter beginner? It has stopped me almost dead in my tracks every time I have tried to take art seriously. I'm trying to make a habit of drawing but I yet again find myself hiding behind simple exercises; I know I will only stagnate in time and burn out again before I even get anywhere.
>>8041068Shoulders wider than the hips
i hate having to think while drawing, i just wanna go autopilot and draw anime heads all day....
>>8041073Grind some. Build your EXP.
drawing bullshit with an "independent artist" mood doesnt make you as good as the literal gods on artstation lmao, fucking circlejerk>>8041072thats hot
>>8041070you're clenching your creative anusrelax and let it flow
>>8040878i think youre at the level where you need perspective and gesture to make stuff really pop all of these figures look amazing though. but imagine if there was slight perspective to add depth and some gesture to imply movement and life
>>8041070It really just is like that in the beginning. I used to genuinely cry over my drawings. Just keep going and it gets easier as you get better.
today's still life. still trying to figure out what makes my paintings muddy and trying to wrangle the hard round brushes in procreate. >>8040755i really like the way you draw hands, but you seem to be slightly unsure about the anatomy of the torso and neck. the bulk of the mass in the torso is in the upper section ribcage.i had critique for 8 other anons but i keep getting flagged for spam. what the fuck
>>8040806form of the stomach and where it meets the thighs is particularly nice here. pay attention to proportions of your girl. feet are supposed to be roughly the length of the forearms, and calves only a little longer than that. if you're drawing a chubby girl, you might want to make her a bit softer on the neck and calves. especially her calves, as hers are incredibly skinny and disproportionate. all depends ofc on how you want to stylize her>>8040878i like these quite a bit anon. i like your forms and i like your lines. what system are you using to draw these girls/who are you referencing, if anyone?boxes on top are slightly wonky, and shadows are plotted out incorrectly. love these and you're goals
>>8041024my one complaint here is the heels. looks like you guessed instead of referencing. otherwise, gorgeous stylish and full of energy. she's very cute.>>8041034i don't know if this fits your goals, but next time, try drawing one long line very quickly instead of many many lines over each other for the final piece. this is something artists tend to call "chicken scratching". keep up the art anon.>>8041047who's the source for the original drawing? >>8041058i quite like the way you've stylized her head. i was unable to determine what was happening in this image for like a minute straight; focus on the anatomy of the hands groping her so it does not appear like they are a part of her body. she is a cutie anon.>>8041068congrats on having finished. i love the way you've drawn her hair, and the few instances of line weight variation give the piece a lot of life. her hands are beautiful as well, but the hand holding the peace sign is slightly strange. don't lose steam on her lower body. add some curvature. i like her and i like you
>>8041070I post all my shit on Twitter dot com to realise nobody really cares if some dude draw some bullshit one day. Whenever you see some dude getting dragged in "art community" drama it's not because he can't draw, it's because he's an annoying cunt who also can't draw that well. Or he fucked a kid and can't draw that well.
>>8041099>who's the source for the original drawing? veil.arts on IG he also has a youtube channel called veil
>>8041099I did reference the heelsHow do i draw them better
why does it feel like drawing things I think are hot is harder than other thingsis it because my brain short circuits and goes into hyper symbol drawing mode or something
I think this will be all for today.Man, I'm spent. I drew for like 5 or 6 hours straight.https://files.catbox.moe/t8r550.jpg
>>8041153are you retarded? why wouldn't you just post an image
>>8040882Disconnected and long looking neck
>>8040144an interesting photograph, but poor choice for a thread challenge. Uninteresting and hard to see.
>>8041024Could you explain a little how the lines are ugly? I don't have a good way to scan things right now so it was my best attempt.The tight fitting clothes and lack of design was a style thing but I am listening >>8041066oooh that's why her boobs looked wrongdunno how I missed thati do have a problem with flat heads ima note this
>>8041157See >>8040975
>>8041176skill issue
>>8041182>skill issueNo other site has such a retarded captcha system.And its only purpose is to force pajeets and kikes to buy premium accounts so they can keep shilling. Completely unnecessary. It's just shitty.
>>8041158It did make sense on the sketch somehow, but I don't remember how.
>>8041192Got any tips for rendering bodysuits (or just in general)? I'm thinking about trying to render this one.
>>8041194just do flat colors and what then I don't know
>>8041195Just look at a garbage bag and wing it
I call 'bodysuits' the american school of character design - just draw naked people and then paint some colors on them. It's reductive but funny.
>>8041202>just drawing an appealing body and coloring it'MERICA!
As opposed to Asian design, where it's 15 levels of drapery and parts of a Toyota transmission on top. Or it's a school uniform, but with painted hair colors.
>>8041205>just drawing the same thing as everyone else'NIPPON!
I drawed today
>>8041214why are the nipples doing like chameleon eyesand why is she so shiny
>>8041202Bizarre and incoherent post
I didn't drawed today
>>8041217To see if you still feel?You focus on the formThe only thing that's real
>>8040800just post mecha musume, that will get people's attention.
>>8041233Damn straight.Everything is just so much better with a sexy anime girl
I like looking at mecha ):
I dont like looking at that though
Mechas are cool when they look like actual metal
>>8041218>why are the nipples doing like chameleon eyesidk>and why is she so shinythats how ive been rendering skin lately, but it's true it doesnt't look that great here
>>8040402Very cool, thanks anon.
>>8041136I think you're just paying more attention to those parts and notice mistakes faster. Whenever I draw gay porn it's always one of those images that only look good for the first two seconds and only get worse the more you zoom on stuff or look at them in general
I CANT FUCKING DRAW
What the fuck causes this mental illness. He's been at it for fucking years. Is it a bot?
>>8041192
>>8041273this
>>8041281Sisyphean pain
So I realized that if I'm ever going to get my Loomis/hide heads correct, I need to just do these things over and over, piece by piece, until I can do every piece correctly.The ONLY goal of this exercise was to pick a random point on the sphere and draw a) the ellipse around the sphere that passes through that point, b) the perpendicular axis that runs through the center of the sphere (the red line), and c) the line that marks where one side of the sphere will be cut off. Even with just these few pieces, there are already a bunch of things to watch out for, such as:* The ellipse that runs along the surface of the sphere and divides it in half is not perfectly symmetrical, the "back" side of it will be smaller due to perspective. I've basically never seen anyone indicate this in their drawings ever and never even realized that perspective would have such noticeable effects at such small distances until I looked at a transparent 3D model in Blender. But, it's still something that you need to account for if you want to be fully accurate, because the size of the ellipse will affect the placement of the center point of any other line running through the sphere, which will affect how you ultimately cut off the sides of the sphere, which will affect how big the head is as a whole, and so on and so forth, it all just snowballs.* Probably the biggest remaining hurdle is estimating the degree of convergence when you draw the line that marks where you'll cut off the side of the sphere. Yes even at such small distances the perspective is very noticeable. I don't think there's any other way to do it other than to do many examples and build intuition for it.Over a few dozen tries I've gotten to about a 50/50 success rate of getting it all "close enough", these examples I did aren't all perfect but they're "close enough". Next I'll move on to actually drawing the ellipses to cut off the sides of the sphere.
>>8041308it's pointless to get that autistic about the ellipses, since any amount of error gets overshadowed by the fact that the skull is not a spherethere's zero reason to worry about slight inaccuracies when the general abstraction contains much bigger ones
>>8041313Yeah, I want to look at hide's examples from his head drawing course again and understand why they look fine in spite of the perspective inaccuracies.All I know is that if I have any slight inaccuracies anywhere in my drawings then it all falls to shit and looks prebeg, so I better be fucking accurate. I wish I had the magic that lets you ignore perspective and still have everything look good, but I don't.
>>8041308jfc dude
>>8041322I've been /beg/ for 8 years, I've tried "just drawing" and copying references and "having fun" and none of it worked, I'm tired of being complete dogshit. If this is what it takes for me to learn how to draw then great, I'll take anything that works at this point. Whatever it takes to be able to draw the head from any angle from imagination.This exercise has improved my ability to find perpendicular and parallel lines in 3D space. Great. That's a win. One step at a time.
>>8041308also, to better complete the exercise you could mark both sides to be cut, and the axis that indicates the top of the skullthat way you'll get the full orientation of the head, with the front, right and top orthogonal axes, and be aware how symmetry changes in each orientation
>>8041328>also, to better complete the exercise you could mark both sides to be cut, and the axis that indicates the top of the skullYep those are the next steps, that'll be my next progress report. I noticed that I couldn't even get ONE of the sides marked off properly so I just wanted to start there first
>>8040871>What I said is pretty straightforwardand I’m not seeing what you think you are referring to. Welp, guess this wont be productive.>>8040800for me mecha has been dead for a long time magic is whats been popular for the last decade i guess. I think there are plenty of reasons for this.>>8041034I like this, it’s fun! I disagree with the other anon >>8041099, this is an easy way to define the line weight for later, doesnt look like chicken scratch to me. Many pros do this. I think the french guy does this too if you want and example from here>>8041047try again, but use this arrangement post results.
>>8041093Try using a dual canvas view one view set as a thumbnail or at viewer size, and the other where you actually paint.
>>8041325Well i hope you drop this after a week and get a better ideaAlso pyw
>>8041070just draw for fun for 1 month, no exercises. you can grind exercises once you have a clear goal and are in the habit of drawing everyday.if you don't find drawing intrinsically motivating, you won't make it
How long would it take to watch all instructional videos by Naoki Saitou? What about other artists' channels such as Pikat or Oridays?
Cute jester I did, any tips?
>>8041070Ad maiorem Dei gloriam. Soli Deo gloria. Everything for the glory of God.Let God motivate you and guide you, inspire you with the Holy Ghost. If He wants you to give Him glory with art, He shall let you if you trust Him.I had been having trouble learning how to draw. I used the fact I had only pen and paper as excuse, and told myself that if I had a tablet it would be much easier. The day I went to buy a secondhand tablet, right before I was going to buy it, a thunder crashed right above our heads and a massive storm began."Prove to me your determination; make something worthy, something great, something glorious, so that the act and the travail were not in vain. I could have drowned you and your trinket, but I let you have it, so you could give glory to me and yourself; do not waste this chance I gave you.I cleanse you and bless you with this baptism."If I had to wade through torrents of pure water from heaven mixed with tons of shit from the flooded sewers as the winds pushed me forward from behind, why will I not march on through all the shit of learning to draw as motivation rains down on me from God while the Holy Ghost comforts me and gently pushes me forward? I do not want to betray their expectations, I wish not to fail them. Jesus, God the Father, help me.
just wip of my oc using wind magic tried making it into a manga one page but idk
AI always tells me to use pencil brush for sketches and practice and to use pen/paint brushes for actual lineart or finished art, but it annoys me how the pencil brushes look in CSP.Is it really necessary to use pencil brush for sketching/practice? Is there any downside to using pen brushes?
am I going in the right direction vis a vis sketching figures?
>>8041281just 4chan meme culture. It happens in all the boards, across the site. He's the spirit of the general, with out him we're nothing.>>8041393>am I going in the right direction?YES>>8040257HI MONKAAA!!!!
>>8041393no, you are forgetting about the y-axisyou have to consider the depth of the things you draw, not only the width or heightshoulders are way too wide too and the legs are off-center
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Didn't draw much today. Mostly fucked around. I'm starting to wonder if I should really be putting this much effort into figures and construction. I can't even draw hands. Besides, the only thing I can ever think of to draw is close up shots of women holding things up to the viewer. I might be better off pivoting to painting.>>8041282Really like this one, very sexy
>>8041419naruhodo...
>>8041331the fact armored core 6 had considerable mainstream success proves mecha is far from dead.
>>8040272hmm ok, what about now?
fellas help me deconstruct the lower body anatomy here. am I pointing at the iliac crest? or is it lower and I'm confusing it with the obliques. bitchass hips
>>8041536I think those are just the contours of the abdomen / belly pouch. The iliac crests are the protrusions at the edges of the torso that make a sharp angle at the sides of the body.You can feel your iliac crests if you run your hand around the edges of your front torso (if you're not too fat).Also I think your femur heads (trochanters) should be a bit lower.The rest is good.
>>8041536>>8041538https://files.catbox.moe/k3g1w9.jpg
>>8041536I believe the actual crest is a bit lower than you think; these curves are mostly obliques.
>>8041424It’ll be ok
quick one becaus i have little time
>>8041538>>8041541alright thanks anyo.>You can feel your iliac crests if you run your hand around the edges of your front torsobut I'm not a stylized woman... I don't have a problem with male hips because people tend to draw a more defined transition between crest and obliques on men. on women it's all smooth (unless she's a gymrat like here >>8041540)end every artist tneds to draw them differently, put the crest at different heights which makes construction guesswork. sometimes the hips go as high as the navel, sometimes they're much lower. wtf is going on>these curves are mostly obliquesthe artist put such sharp lines on either side of the fig's stomach it looks like there must be bone there
Time for another day of struggle and failure
>>8041563don't trust me on anatomy but my guess is something like this
>>8041567if this is true may god strike me down as I don't understand anything. aren't her loincloth straps supposed to be sitting on her hips. her hips should be tilting the other way. but where do the hips end and obliques start. what are these shapes...
>>8041576kek
maybe it's like this? btw curse the nigger who popularized simplifying the pelvis down to a box it helps nobody
how the fuck did I end up with thisI think I need to do my lines more precisely
>>8041598Are those bacteria? Lmao.
>>8041599Human cells. Read >>8040577 and thought I'd go a few level lower than >insects and rocks.
the begs are going insane
>>8040383>>8040472>>8040482>>8040494>>8040517does this work better, I was checking the comp with dolls but I like this a lot more
>>8041567not even that anon but i have the same problem, the torso and pelvis boxes always look close as hell yet you need space for the abs, how does that work?
>>8041614They start under the pecs and end around the belly button/atop the pelvis
>>8041614The ribs curve upward and the pelvis curves downward, and the abs attach in the space left between them
>>8041618What book is this from?
>>8041625Human Anatomy for Artists by Xiao Weichun
>>8041608Yes, that fixes the perspective. See how both Miku and Teto are both looking up at you? That's different from your original, where Miku was looking straight at you but Teto was looking down on you despite being at the same height.
>>8041629kinda? idk, I was more worried about the composition in general and not how feasible it looked yet, but making it 3d made it look boring
>>8041614whats confusing bout that
>>8041054>The goatee guy is always drinking something! lol I love this space sci-fi shit so much, pretty coolThanks Peril. One day you'll be seeing him blowing heads off too heh
>>8041637rape
I didn’t even try to draw yesterday. Not even a doodle. I think I’m gonna’ make it, bros! I’m going to stop wasting time drawing poorly.
>>8041607i'll give myself you's it's whatever anyways.
>>8041657Kek. The drawing is fine enough. There's really not much to say.
>>8041657Nice, but she looks too happy.
Crawling back to morpho like a battered dog
>>8040781that IS silent hill>>8041411HAAAYYY PERIL
>>8041627Thanks, I’ll have to check that out
>>8041511too obvious you used some generic pose pack
>>8041411I don’t think that guy is memeing
Trying to learn how to break down stuff into shapes. Is this useful at my stage, or should i just focus on making the most accurate copy from pure observation?
you faggots ever try to think for yourselves? Check something yourself?
im beg, starting again (krita + wacom intuos)
>>8041701How do you expect a beginner to think for themselves when they dont know what to look for yet? Begone with you.
>>8041657rare to see actual linework itt
>>8041708How do you expect them to be able to differentiate between crabs and people who actually know what they're talking abo? If you couldnt think for yourself you wouldn't ask for live advice on an anonymous board.
>>8041675Is there something wrong with that?
How it is going from a screenless tablet from something like pic related?It is really much better? The active surface seems so small, and I'm not sure you benefit really from drawing directly on the screen.Any opinion?
>>8041701How to do that?
>>8041719Opinions diverge. Some believe a screen is the pinnacle, some believe it's not needed. For me, a nonscreen is more comfy
I've been doing figure drawing for two weeks and I swear I've only gotten worse at drawing
>>8041726Nice redraw, care to comment on the original?
>>8041732it was kind of comment on the original
>>8041734Thanks for effort!
>>8041735It's more a way to procrastinate than an effort.
Would you say that i'm still at /beg/ level or /int/? Even as i post this i realize that my perspective is wonky, but i'm not sure on how to improve it. Just go back to fundamentals?
>>8041741nigga you beg as shit
The audacity of it reminds me of Esdeath
>>8041706noice...
>>8041663Cute. And a bit spooky
>>8041755arms too short, hands too beeg
>flip canvas>take a break>see no mistakes>post work>immediately see everything wrong with itWhy does this happen
>>8041757Oh yeah trex arm wtf, I'll fix that. Giant fuck off hands are on purpose tho
>>8041714Because knowledgeable people's advice is useful while crabs' often don't even give advice but merely complain and insult.
>>8041710There are many posts with linework itt.
>>8041764Kek. Same.I imagine it's because the brain finally relaxes, turns off "artist mode" and becomes "observer mode".
>>8041741You'll be int in like a year
>>8041769not really, most dont have size flow, just opacity which is baby mode >>8041715breaks immersion>>8041768no you retard a crab is someone who gives you shitty advice on purpose, there's also dunning krugers how give you shitty advice out of ignorance
>>8041741do more master copies and you won't even have to agonize yourself over the theories of form, perspective, and anatomy. Sure, those concepts are helpful, but the most fundamental way all humans from all epochs have learned to draw was by copying shit they liked. The 2d graphic design of anything you draw is wayy more important than the theory behind how you constructed it
>>8041781Thank you!This was done without any refs at all and i was worried when i just 'indulged' in copying stuff that i'm not actually learning anything new, just copying the lines and relying on 'muscle' memory to do it again later.
>She helped maintain the unit's bicycles
>>8041779Learn to read, retard. I also said their advice is shitty and doesn't work.
>>8041788you didn't though?
50 minute sketch, done from imagination.
>>8041755Quick fix, too lazy to do the other arm ngl
>>8041789What do you think "knowledgeable people's advice is useful while..." implies about the characteristics of crabs' advice, anon?
>>8041790High /int/ if not /adv/.
>>8041793>ok i didnt say that but i uh implied it!ok
>>8041790/pro/ is up and to the left kind sir
How do you guys set up your ref pictures on your monitors while drawing digitally?
>>8041799I put them as a layer on the can as and turn them on or off as i need
>>8041797>im a retard who doesnt get implications>nothing is said unless stated explicitlyOk.
>>8041800I see. But wouldn't that be too close to tracing?
>>8041799PureRef is a godsend
>>8041805>yeah and?Nothing. If you're trying to learn, tracing will hinder the learning process, though if you're already experienced, it doesn't matter.
im like.. practicing stylization and lineart or something>>8041802yeah and?
>>8041804I see, I see.
>>8041799pureref window set to stay on top of my csp window
>>8041807stylization is not an excuse for those hands and feet
>>8041804>>8041809I prefer using FOSS apps as much as possible, so I found two alternatives for those interested:https://github.com/rbreu/beerefhttps://github.com/Ruin0x11/DroidRef
>>8041802Not really, you can usually just put it side by side to what you're drawing. I do make the construction/initial sketch smaller for extra space at the start tho.
>>8039914
>>8041812I see now.
>>8041779>size flowactually, hard round brush with no "line weight" is the hardest mode. Don't know why anybody would subject to that torture, but, to each their own.
>>8041818Just double down on your line?
>>8041813great
>>8041764Like a clockwork
>>8041823You are my measure of skill in this thread. In past couple years you redrew some of my works and deathmogged me. You are still mogging me but it's more of a regular mog than a deathmog so I'm clearly not wasting my time
>>8041835same except im still getting deathmogged
get fucking real. so you gotta have the superhuman ability to feel the form--not to mention you gotta come up with all those shapes from imagination--be able to describe it while controlling this thin of a line, and render (occultic practice) everything on top of that? what a fucking joke, "just copy artists you like lol" my ASS
>>8041844who is this artist? looks familiar
This is the super begAnd this is known as the beg that has surpassed the super beg
>>8041818It's hard because it looks like garbage not because it's hard to use
Do you fixate on a subject for a longer period of time when trying to get gud? say for example figure drawing
>>8041852I dunno actually I saved it from one of the /v/ fanart threads a long time ago
weee
>>8041878nice
>>8041860is this the mediterranean chad meme
>>8041855>looks like garbagecan you give any examples?
>>8041886Idk brudda scroll the thread
I need to work on my observational skills...
Lisa from silent hill. The more I try to fix it the worse it gets. Kohinoor technical black ink and a dab of white ink.Now I shall grind loomis skulls and heads until I realize what planes and shapes there are and how they behave in light and shadows
>>8041889I don't know what (You) think is crap.
>>8041878red shadows don't look good on anything but the skinher left hip seems missing
>>8041901>red shadows don't look good on anything but the skini disagree>her left hip seems missingvalid point
Shouldve grinded some figures instead of attempting to paint. Lost all appeal of the original photo, and it doesn't even look like Selma Blair. I had fun tho>>8041897I like it
>>8041807other anon is right about the hands and feet but that's a hard angle anon well done
I thought I wouldn't draw today, but then this fanart of Fubuki came up as my wallpaper, and I figured it would be easy enough to draw quickly.Rate pls.
>>8041910kek
from imagination.After a day of inner turmoil.
>>8041895YOU DEMAND ACTON AND YOU RIGHTLY DEMAND ACTION
Using myself as reference feels incredibly gay I feel like a tranny now
here's some of that "environmental storytelling" I keep hearing so much about>>8041916looks coolshame about the turmoil>>8041895BEADY
>>8041810I kinda like the feet thoughI think it's the wrists not the hands themselves
I didn't have money so I used an old sock to make a drawing glove, but I think I sewed the pinky finger too tight.My pinky finger grows tired or numb as I draw with the glove. Is this normal when wearing a drawing glove or did I make it too tight and it's hurting my blood flow?
I hate people that can't draw.
Why these people still posting their slop here? what is the point?>>8041787>>8041663>>8041411>>8041244
>>8041935specially this faggot
>>8041966What do you mean? What's with them in particular?
>>8041973they don't improve like AT ALLthey are stuck in the day 1 still
>>8041966>>8041974and who the fuck are you?
I’m so tired bros… I can’t draw today…
>>8041966I want Pawell, back, I want Deer-anon back, I want that guy who made flash games and animations out of random posts in this general, I want the good old days back, please!
>>8041977It's me 7 year /beg/ chad
>>8041981Do you have any idea how little that narrows it down...
>>8041982tell me how much
>>8041566It was indeed a day of failure just as I predicted
>>8041974Some dont have talent.
>>8041962>anon hates me
>>8041993Hot
i drew today too btw
Can this one be rescued or is it just bad through and through?
>>8041726I tried to apply at least some of your fixes.
>>8041974it's been nearly 3 years since I bought a tablet but I am still a prebeg.
>>8042023>Elon's pathetic Miku (((psyop))) that got stomped like a cockroach by Brazil's Patriots.Time for letting go anon.
>>8041884lol no. It’s funny seeing what others see in my work. It’s just some Hispanic guy I saw at Canes. He had really nice hair.
drew 2 things in 2 days. feeling good
>>8042053nice
>>8042023it's honestly not bad anon. the perspective is more or less in there and the proportions are good especially the upper body and armsI'll try tweaking it a little myself
Poch4n study and attempts at applying
>>8041966>>>8041244 (You)it's over
My usb dock keeps disconnecting and it's a pain in the ass since that means my wacom tablet keeps disconnecting Go ahead and laugh at me tradchads, go ahead and laugh.
>>8042013nice
>>8042023>>8042066
>>8041966Why are you still posting here?
>>8042081tradchads dont draw so you're only partly as based as them
>>8042091ask a tradchad to draw a straight line and theyll be like hold on let me get my ruler
>>8041966I doubt you could even imagine it...The fun these anons have
I CANT DRAVVV HELPP MEEEEE
>create side account for fetish stuff I don't want to be associated with myself>instantly gets more popular than the main accountIt's all so tiresome.
>>8042144PYFS
Typically I'm doing alright when drawing alone, but today I feel oddly lonely. I don't know why.I keep taking a break from drawing to see if my friends are online and they aren't. Nobody in any server I'm in is active either. It's really weird.
>>8042151join one of the ic servers
>>8042151Reality is undergoing maintenance, migrating to a new version.
>>8042086Thanks man, I think I know where to apply my efforts.good job
Need to get my head back into the game
>>8041966>calling Peril's art slop
>>8041966Because it’s the /beg/ thread…?
>>8042053did another one today. Need to add more details but for now I need a break & to get ready for work
>>8041756:DDDthanskies >>8041974pyw anon-kun>>8041966im here just to remind you of my presencei wouldve been gone otherwise :3
>>8039914Results might not be good, but at least i enjoyed.
>>8042231cute
>>8041979<3 I've been too busy IRL to draw much lately , glad you remember me tho
i'd say i'm firmly in int territory?
>>8041979I want hatkid anon back…
>>8042276Dang that's pretty good. I like it.
>>8042276post the 6 tiddy version too
sloppaidk how hair/fur it tedious>>8041909not bad but should have pushed the perspective more if you imagine a horizontal line across the canvas starting at the top of her Butt you can see that the shoulders in the ref are below that line while yours are above it
>>8042305here you go>>8042290thank you!
speedrunnin this thing, will make the actual lineart later...
>>8042314Mhm, you're right.
Any critique on this piece?
>>8041807my instincts were that this whole thing just a needed a better head and some proportions adjustements about the hands, i was rite>>8042385im convinced that this guy is a ghost and only ensouled people like me can even see his posts>>8042283wheres his chin
>>8042331i could help you, but i won't because i want you to failso i say to you, great work! keep it up! SAVED!
>>8042331Pretty fuckin good mate.
Why all the good artworks in this thread are completely ignored?
>>8042423Why are you ignoring them?
>>8042423its alright, i dont mind being ignored
>>8042423usually its the opposite
>>8042197It's an objectively good artwork but i don't think i like the subject shown here. Seems something a Greco-Roman man would appreciate.
>>8042423They’re not?I frequently give compliments to the posts that deserve it
>>8042449This is the first time someone calls my artwork objectively good. Thanks (I think)
I wish an ancient greco-roman man would appreciate my bussy
>>8042412kino feet pose. give me your power
>>8042420hecking wholesome, have my upvote, sir!
Hi /ic/, I recently redrew a character I made three years ago. What do you think? Did my style improved since then?
>>8042466(The new one is on the left.)
>>8042354Looking at it makes me want to die
>>8042466 face of the new one is more pretty. I'm skeptical of doing my style before ability to draw
>>8042081It's over, I pinpointed that the issue isn't the USB dock. Rather, it's the tablet itself that just won't connect. It could be an issue with the cable, or it could be an issue with the tablet itself, I'm not sure. Hopefully I can buy a replacement cable first and we'll go from there. If worse comes to worse, guess I'll have to buy a new tablet tho.
>>8042466Left is noticeably better yeah
>>8042276>bullied out of the hobby
>>8042283on the cusp of leaving pre/beg/, hatching low/beg/
>>8042415Kino
comic makers of /beg/, which one of these would be the most natural order and positioning for a mini comic?
>>80425231 and 3 are fine.Anyone who likes 2 needs to be executed.
>>8042478
I don't think I'll ever improve, and because that's what I think, it becomes trueI'm just too averse to suffering that I hardly ever try to challenge myself bc everything feels like a challengeI wish I were the kind of mentally ill that made me productive, rather than the inactive overthinking type
>>8042537My condolences.
>>8042537draw my oc though
>>8042549idk what your oc is or who you are
Should I jerk off before or after drawing?
>>8042550>>8040042I can make a ref sheet
Struggling to think of a subject, scene and pose to draw. How do you guys do it? I feel like none of my (very few) ideas are ever any good. Also any tips on how to draw metal and stuff is appreciated.
>>8042552After, as a reward. If you do it before, you might get demotivated due to post nut clarity.
I'm drunk
>>8042552During you retard
>>8042552jerking off is the last thing I do in a day otherwise I feel so demotivated to do anything so personally I’d recommend waaay after
>>8042552yes
perspective practice with a rulerhave not been super motivated to draw recently, so this represents trying to get back into the flow of it
>>8042603nice
>>8042603Ina my beloved. Nice fanart.
Help with the lower leg?
>>8042609And some bullshit since cute guy general is kill
>>8042466draftsmanship has improved, but the visual language feels stagnant. Im having a hard time reading the character. I'd suggest skimming through the https://www.youtube.com/user/PhilsDesignCorner channel, there are tons of videos with useful information on character design. The symmetry tool is incredibly useful for this too>>8042331I liked the original better, to me, this pose/composition reads weird and looks like one of those amateurish egirl cosplay packs. other than that it looks good.>>8042314the face feels small for the body. you draw, paint, and figure well, so I think if you spend more time thinking about the aesthetics of drawing, you’ll figure out how to solve the problems you encounter while drawing. steve huston has a great lecture about aesthetics and philosophy thats worth watching.As for the tail, I like it when the base of the tail is wide. That makes it feel like an actual part of the pelvis, not necessarily coming directly from the tailbone, but at least flowing with the spine and pelvis. Also, the overlaps can block the viewer’s sight depending on which volume overlaps which.
>>8042561that's ok, I'll give it a shot when I get the time
>>8042589The bartop looks off but otherwise, looks like good practice
How come furfags are always so talented?19 year old kid.https://x.com/Jxzuke/status/2043756877738090769/photo/1
>>8042662cuz theyre both autistic and sexually motivated
>>8042662>>8042664This. When I was in college there was a guy who would spend every single free moment drawing furries and sometimes even during lecture. In front of everyone without stopping and without shame no matter what others said, and sometimes he shoved the drawings on people's faces to ask for their opinions.I thought it was weird, but I bet he's raking in the money selling furry art to wealthy furfags.
>>8042662It's sad that Nitter/Xcancel no longer works.
>>8042479Hey, on second thought since my tablet is at least about 8 years old, should I buy a new cable or a new tablet altogether? It's a wacom pth 651
>>8042645>draftsmanship has improvedThanks!>but the visual language feels stagnantEh, fair enough. These are mostly for DnD campaigns, so they're usually paired with a text description covering what the drawing doesn't show. Not really an excuse, but it kinda explains why I draw stuff like this, definitely something I need to work on. I think I have other drawings that are a lot more readable, though.
I always thought that the process of art takes two things.>information>coordinationSo long as you break things down into digestible chunks by asking "why" and "how" a lot, you can maybe manage to learn how to draw anything. But the process of making that information stick in your mind is a bit painful, and tends to infringe upon your emotional stability. Which is why the best artists out there do crazed shit like DFE and cut their ear off to mail to their friend or something.I'm probably full of shit, but this delusion is all I have left to keep me from roping.
>>8042603Damn that’s pretty nice
>>8042714become monke
walker mech
wanker merch
>>8042765hot but left pic her head placement is totally mangled
>>8042768She's a gelly based creature, anon
>>8042779more like beer and nonsense based
any grave mistakes
>>8042785lack of contrast, if it could be called a mistake. Otherwise, mega cool
>>8042786>>8042785
>>8042785I ate a cake and had to take a massive shit. Shouldn't have done that.
Just making sure I understand this thing about proportions...
YouTube after a video has played for longer than 3 minutes:>ARE YOU STILL WATCHING THOUGH???!!!God fucking damn it, YouTube, stop pausing the music and let me concentrate on drawing.
feels very sterile still. not sure if ill keep working on it
One of my first attempts at primitive vaule studies. How did I do
>>8042829your ambient occlusion bro>>8042830you could push the form shadows a bit more
>>8042830separation/contrast is kind of weak (on the original cylinder/ball light/terminator is more prominent) but nice
BWEHHHHHHHHHH
>>8042826Nice.>>8042829Try raising the saturation of the yellow so it pops out more.
How is this in terms of proportion?I think the left arm should be longer, but I couldn't manage to make it look not unproportional and deformed.
>>8042848why don't you try overlaying your drawing over the reference?
>>8042852You're right. But at plain sight, how does it look to you?>>8042853Hot.
>>8042848 (me)>>8042852Surprisingly close, I would say, except for the left leg. Left arm should be a bit higher and longer, and the torso a bit thinner, but overall it's pretty good for a total beginner.
>>8042854>But at plain sight, how does it look to you?like a beginner's drawing, unfortunately. But that comment won't help you. The only thing that can help you is your own self critique
>>8042868try this besides mechs>>8042830
>>8042868That looks a lot better.
>>8041522okay what about now?just so you know i am not trying to push some OC i just want to figure out general proportions and brushes
>>80428845/10
>>8042884>>8040278
>>8042645thanks i aprecciate you taking time to critique, where can i find this steve huston lecture?
>>8042888kek, finewhat artist do you suggest?
>>8042892Lmao. What artists do YOU like, anon?
>>8042892ideally you'd be the one choosing, it's your personal taste what mattersI like something like pic related, from kuroboshi kouhaku's blanc(the artbook also contains simple black and white sketches, which are easier to copy at the start)
>>8042884https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/loomis-head-01-bb1bc361f6fb42329e55c63e61ca78f3This is how you wrap lines around a sphere and cut off the sides
>>8042899>unironically recommending anime renderslop for someone trying to get into faces
>>8042707No worries, but I think drawings are a way to avoid over exposition in storytelling, even more so in role playing games. If I look at a character, I want to quickly understand them. For example, I don't see a necromancer in that character. To me, she looks more like a Chinese vampire. This is why tropes exist, some people think they are dull, but they are tropes because they work.The image is just an exploration of my own. I do like the idea of the candle being part of her hair, though.>>8042890https://online-courses.club/an-introduction-to-art-philosophy/
>>8042894>>8042899i like artists with (free) tutorials for drooling retards (me)i got my hands on few adnava's old process files but he is obviously not a good example for learning>>8042904thanks
I think I'll consider this drawing finished, I changed the face to something simple and joyful. It's been a nice experience.
>>8042945>I changed the face to something simple and joyful.proofs?
>>8042945pic related
>>8042949Pretty, but you should have left her face the way it was.
>>8042561I triedtoday is a migraine day tho so it's a bit rough compared to what I would like
>>8041331posting results!
>>8042951Thanks man, I kind of think the new face is cute and it fits the song I made it for
Today’s life drawings
>>8042990>>8042991Good stuff keep it up
>>8042993
>>8042537 if you keep drawing you’ll 100% improve. Doesn’t matter what you think. The only way you won’t improve is if you stop. Challenge yourself by drawing from life >I wish I were the kind of mentally ill that made me productiveLmao no you don’t . It may seem that way from the outside but being productive at your art comes at a cost that many aren’t willing to pay.
lick belly
>>8043000What's the point of posting here if you never try to improve? You've been drawing the same shit for years.
>>8043010What's the point of posting here if you never post your work?
>>8043010Not everyone is trying to go pro, anon
>>8042844
>>8043010its so i get to see his work nigga
>>8043010>What's the point of posting here if you never try to improveImprove what? I'm open for critique.>You've been drawing the same shit for years.I've done plenty of portraits and studies tho. Anyway kemono are my favorites so i draw them haha
>>8042954The fact that you didnt even bother to remove the "draw here" kind of tells me you aren't really trying your best. Honestly, that's pretty disappointing.
>>8042997ty <3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCCHOzg3GS8This fucker started mogging me in 5 days...I really need to get serious.
>>8042868>>8042940good stuff
>>8043029I can’t even watch these videos anymore, it’s just too depressing
>>8042645Also lol I have only just seen the critique picture now.>???Basically, the idea is that a crown-shaped little demon has possessed the body of a dead girl, and as a result of that, her hair has taken on a crown shape with a little mouth.
>>8043029just learning to copy, a few value studies and asaro headsbut the important part: a finished illustration per weekhasn't even touched perspective and it's already pretty good
Is there no way to draw in a smartphone with a graphic tablet in landscape mode?
>>8043058Talent>>8043029Talent>>8043047Talent.Everything can be boiled down to talent. In one year he mogged the anons who have been drawing here for 5 years and more.
>>8043029This nigger is clearly using AI as reference. Can you blind tards not see the AI palette and shit?
'ai ref/trace' is my favorite permabeg seethe
>>8043072Hi Toru, Subu, Nihu, Mega.
Hampter
>>8043072It’s not a cope or seethe if it’s true
>>8043072Remember when there were 5 threads at any given time for pewdipie? He was just sight sizing AI slop. Some months later he came out as a AI shill promoting some vibecoded garbage frontend that was plagued with bugs and security risks.He even bought hundreds of thousands in hardware to host his own models
>>8043064Bro, I bought an OTG Adapter thinking I would use my smartphone but the tablet doesn't allow landscape mode and portrait mode doesn't have the proper proportions (when I try to draw a circle, an ellipse is drawn instead). I would have to draw a big ellipse on the tablet in order to draw a circle on the phone.Has anyone had this problem?
>>8043118If I turn the phone for landscape mode, vertical strokes become horizontal and horizontal strokes become vertical. It's unusable as is.
>>8043094until you can draw better, it's pure 100% concentrated copium
Remember that one guy
>>8043141yeah fuck that one guy
>>8043141ofc, I'll never forget dear pawell
>>8043080why he bald
>>8042953So that's why he's so uncharacteristically upset, the ero gaki took scissors to his clothes, ts is peak fr
Realized there has to be something fundamentally wrong with the way I approach figures for me to keep having the same recurring problems (mainly wonky proportions), so back to basics for me
>>8043138You don’t have to be good at drawing to point out that someone is using AI
Trying out watercolorViolent chud and sad dilf
>>8043052I didn’t even notice the mouth. It blended too much with the hair highlights to be noticeable.This is fun! There are some tropes you can use to make the parasitic relationship clearer. For example, you could use a gradient starting at the top of the forehead, making the features look less defined. That could imply a lack of personality, like an empty husk, but it could also give a sense of dread. You could apply the same idea to the eyes.You could also use the same mouth expression for both characters to hint at the puppeteer mechanic.Another thing you could do is think about the “why.” It doesn’t have to be anything too deep, but I think it can help you establish the scene and figure out what you want to communicate.At the end of the day, there’s no ultimate best answer. It all depends on where you want to take it and what you want to communicate.Keep posting! I want to see where you take it :)
Okay, done. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm gonna go get absolutely shitfaced and put my liver to work.
I'll add some proper dramatic lighting tomorrow, but what do you think so far?
>>8043205That weird shit on her trap bothers meAlso whole thing feels muddy, maybe it's the green bg, why swamp green???
How do I train talent?
>>8043208>why swamp green???Just felt like it. It's supposed to be art for a pretty grim world so I felt like the colors should be a bit muted. Idk if I'm doing it right though.
>>8043215wyell... nyou cyan't...
bath droodle migraine gone for the most partI think I made his maybe a bit too tiny/small>>8043150I thought he looked like a crop top kind of guy lol
>>8043218Thats why I wanted to make the ref sheet...
AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
is this 3 pt perspective? where's the eye level?
I was working on a painting but I forgot to take a picture of it.I CAN'T FUCKING TAKE PICS
>>8043247Only women and gay bottoms play medic
>>8043216There's no right, but normies might scroll past it on twitter
>>8043029Boring, mediocre and he'll likely draw that till death
>>8043247FULLY CHARGED
>>8043247MEDIC
Why do you guys draw? What's your goal?
>>8041458
More life drawings >>8043269To be famous and remembered forever
>>8043269I draw for the coom
>>8043279Getting better with simplifying legs but arm and hand connection is still a struggle
>>8043281
>>8043283
>>8043269For the greater glory of God.And if God wills it, to make money in the future.
Its so over, my drive is gone. For the last 2 days I've barely touched the tablet; the construction I've grinded does fuck all in actual application. Whats even the point of grinding if I don't have a single original thought in my brain? It always comes back to copy copy copy.>>8043269to find some selfworth>>8043205Her head might be a little too small. Still mogs...
>>8043285
>>8043299Experimenting with more sharp and triangular shapes to make faces look younger
>>8043302
>>8043303
>>8043306Doing some cartoon teenage face studies because this is supposed to be a teenager lmfao
>>8043308
>>8043308Pg 1 of teenage face studies to learn new techniques/styles
>>8043311Page 2. Sorry for the flood it was just a very productive day as you can see lol
bweehh bweeh bweeeh
>>8043298>Whats even the point of grinding if I don't have a single original thought in my brain?The ideas are there, but you still have to acquire the language to express them. Enjoy the ride absorb as much language as you can. You’re already in a way better place than I was in 2022. With time and diligence, you’ll get there.>>8043269To have fun and draw whatever I want.>>8043314Unc alert! Nice work, dude. That show was weird, but I liked the character designs.
>>80432384-point actuallythe shoes are almost being seen from a bird's eye view so I'd guess the eye level is around her shoulders' height give or take
>>8043314Some more youthful studies >>8043318Lol you got me. And it was but yeah the designs were kino. I wish we got more styles like that nowadays For your drawings you’ve got the general idea down, especially with the spine, just focus on breaking the head, ribs, and pelvis into distinct shapes and then connect from there.
>>8043321Last few studies, I think I’m getting the memo. Gonna turn my brain off and just gonna work on some old stuff
>>8043029I waited all day at work and then my commute to be able to watch it and now that I am at the very last minutes of the day I am too depressed to try.Why? Just to see some talented fuck mogging me? I got enough of that.
alt version with background
>>8043336Anon if you’re gonna add a background make it slightly more readable as a silhouette. I’m assuming you’re trying to do a city (?) but compare this to yours.
>>8043000Hot
>>8043398lol>>8043386How old is she?
>>8043403she is 30 minutes yo
>>8043406Oh no
How do I draw the rope on her hip? It is easier said than done
>>8043411You have to just break things into forms when it comes to stuff like this. Pic tel is how I’d break it down
>>8043269bring my ideas into reality and also validation/attention
Slowly getting the hang of this fuckass creature i think. Does it read as Renamon to you guys? The neck fluff, gloves and shoulder spine things really confuse me. The head also doesnt look anywhere as nice as the copies i was doing earlier.Could someone help me break this character down into more understandable shapes so i could draw it better from different angles and using human references for the poses? Tried asking /fag/ but those guys werent of any help.
Here's the copies I was doing earlier, how should I approach copying an artist's work in the future to better understand _how_ they construct something? Clearly I haven't been able to do that as my own work falls very short of these.
>>8043320What is “4 point perspective”?
>>8043269I want to have a creative outlet to pay tribute to the things i enjoy instead of endlessly consuming things made by others.Being able to draw my own gooning material and gifting art for my friends is a bonus.
>>8043320thank you. what book is this
>>8043347no it's not a city it's just abstract shapes like in the nier automata logo
>>8043490Just open up the reference pic and trace the construction over it. It’s easier to analyze while tracing. Then redo the same construction when you draw it freehand without tracing
daily robot
>>8043504it's when the parallel lines become curvy due to wide camera lens distortion or fisheye shenaniganscurvy lines converge on both ends as opposed to straight ones which converge on one end and diverge on the other>>8043563space drawing by dong ho kim
daily nonsense
>>8043490>>8043576You should also keep in mind the things the artists do to hide or ameliorate their mistakes.For example, I tried copying this fanart of Fubuki a few days ago here >>8041909. As you can see, and as another anon pointed out, I drew the shoulders and upper body higher than the original illustration.However, notice how the back of the original has some sort of leaf on it between the ass and the back? The reason is to hide the fact that the artist made the back too long. I had to draw the upper body higher because if I didn't, the proportions look horrible.
>>8043625Hot.>>8043629Cute.
Attempted to use less scratchy lines, it's a lot easier with characters with angular designs/big lines like Milly, though gave up on doing so with the Wolfwood head, lmao. Thoughts?
>>8043626a common case of the freddykrueger
Be real with me, doc. Does this have any trace of appeal?
>>8043667Yes but the line weight is all wrong
>>8043579Fire>>8043625Good work but keep that perspective consistent >>8043629I’m liking your style. The trails of color are very appealing. *steals* >>8043667Yeah it’s actually pretty good but the line weight is fucked like the other anon said. Make the head the darkest and gradually make the body lighter and lighter as we move more downward.
>>8043076Only true for one of those and it's the Brazilian
>>8043667did u trace this, post ref
>>8043579how do you draw so cleanly and sharply
>>8043703he doesnt finish his lines
Is there anyone by chance who can help me with handwriting, I am not a native.I don't know what the impression cursive/not cursive gives and I'm too anxious to make anything fancy looking. Not asking in /int/ the people there scare me
>>8043709Okay I’ll use my own work as an example. The writing I did in the back isn’t cursive because cursiveness implies formality, something official, something serious- fancy, like you said. Though the document i took from is in cursive I didn’t put it that way in my work to make it almost look like a slave wrote it. You need to just ask yourself what purpose the handwriting is serving in the artwork and decide from there
>>8043709And as for you handwriting that just takes practice. What language is this?
>>8043022what is this supposed to mean.
How do you capture proportions when doing gesture drawings? Is it better do just do very quick and rough gestures (like, 10-30 seconds) and then trying to pin down proportions afterwards or are you doing both at the same time?
>>8043720>>8043723You misunderstand my problem. The text is from the story I am depicting (https://esl-bits.eu/ESL.English.Listening.Short.Stories/Etgar.Keret/06/default.html), but I'm not a native hebrew speaker, and from what I heard, cursive implies informality, and I'm too anxious about misspelling in Hebrew and making it unreadable, so I couldn't make it look nice, I'm asking help from someone who can give me confidence or help if I'm unintentionally making a letter strange.
>>8043742> I didn’t put it that way in my work to make it almost look like a slave wrote itThat was a good idea, I could make my handwriting shittier or add niqqud to make it look like a child wrote it?
>>8043666Pic related? Kek
Making great progress on the snake . Been at it since late July >>8043742Ahh i get you. Just write in Hebrew cursive à lot I guess?? If you’re worried about it looking bad. It’s not that deep tho. it’s up to you. >>8043743You get it
Any big issues I should fix on this one?I'm actually posting early enough that I can do some fixes this time.
>>8043753Torso anatomy needs work. Make the torso and pelvis two simple shapes/forms and build atop them
>>8043201love the colder colours, very pretty
>>8043201Good job, anon. I like it.
>>8043201Looks really good. Nice anatomy, colors, and I fuck with the background. Keep it up.
>>8043671>>8043672Thanks. I know about the line weight, I just restated body too many times because I struggled with it more than with the face.>>8043694Shiii got me, bro. Here you go.
first we had the latex car then we had the chocolate car then the butter and hard candy cars and now we have the elusive CAR MADE OF PURE LEAD. I am looking forward to discovering all the wonderful textures of the world while trying to paint a fucking car>>8043753just go to the redline thread vro
>>8043767Very, very nice. Saved. I like the background a lot, and the body looks really good.
>>8043694What gave it away?
>>8043761the head shape is very offI worry when I read these posts, they make me doubt the value of any feedback I get in the thread
>>8043777The anatomy doesn’t have to be perfect to be good. Progress not perfection
>>8043205>>8043201I want everyone to look at the vast difference in anatomy, shading, appeal and perspective and tell me that someone who hasnt even been drawing for a full year mogging one of /beg mainstays is completely normal and doesnt give you the ick.>>8043777Just compare Mega's perfect heads with this symbol drawn stuff.Talent >>>>>>>>>>> everything else
>>8043779that's fine, it's probably a new angle or whatever, it's not meant to shit on the artist, especially when they're doing complex stuff with multiple figuresI worry that nobody mentioned it at all, when it looks very off to me>>8043783retard
>>8043784The head isn’t the only thing I mean when I say anatomy. Just the body overall
this work week's copy studies>>8042564schizokino>>8042868nice
>>8043783who mega
>>8043667>TFW my work is so shit I can't even get a "did you trace this" despite having similarly bad line qualityDamn. Something to strive for, I suppose.
>>8043792It's the retard polishing the ugly ass mecha girl. Probably a samefag
>>8043811I wanna take a bite of the lower belly on the rightmost figure you did, hot.
>>8043812Haha, same! Thank you.
>>8043416mfw i'm drawing
How do I rid myself of the near-pathological fear of bad practice you faggots have instilled in me? It's turned any potential for "bad practice" into "no practice and doom spiral" for me, I want to go back.
>howie
>>8043842Can nobody ask how to do anything anymore? I legitimately want to be rid of this feeling, and I'm sure I'm not the only one.
>>8043773based
>>8043847Tell your therapist you like to spend your time trolling an anonymous image board that like 17 people care about.
>>8043827What do you mean, anon? People here are constantly posting crappy and half-assed drawings. If anything, you should lose your fear and post your drawings no matter how shitty they are thanks to the other anons.
>>8043827just draw
>>8043827What is bad practice?
>>8043850I'm not trolling, I'm at the end of my rope trying to figure this out. I promise you, I understand what it's like having a small general tanked by trolls, but I'm not one.>>8043852Well, I wind up paralyzed and spiraling out of fear of "bad practice", since lots of different people present lots of different ways as the only way to learn drawing, and all others as "bad practice". Copying refs is bad practice, tracing is bad practice, anime is bad practice, drawing in non-anatomically correct styles is bad practice, so on and so forth. It makes me feel like I'm doing something wrong if I'm not copying greek statues or something, it's hard to even doodle without feeling like I'm degrading my skills. I understand it's not logical, that's why I'm asking how to stop feeling that way instead of a million sub-hows that wouldn't solve anything.
>>8043852he do not afraid of posting a bad drawing but "afraid of drawing" because doing anything could be "a bad practice". this is the narrative. meta narrative is wasting your time in the schizo loop "but how"
>>8043858>>8043860Ah I see.
the whole idea of 'crippling' practice is very funnyprobably the best meta crab, works across many disciplines and skills
>>8043811I think your main issue is simplifying. You’re jumping into detail too quickly and your lines aren’t confident. When drawing figures try to use simple shapes and forms for the major parts of the body and bone movements and then build atop that. An awkward pose is easier to spot when it looks like a skeleton and it’s easier to build muscles atop of skeletons even if lightly.
>>8043811>>8043867
>>8043860Exactly. That's why I'm trying to cut it off at the root instead of asking "how do I do construction? how do I do (XYZABCDEFG)?" ad infinitum. I've asked that enough, and it's never gotten me anywhere.>>8043865It really is some diabolical shit, it's like a cognitohazard for the excessively anxious.
>>8043870only bad practice is no practice
>>8043867>>8043868I appreciate the response. To be honest with you, anon, you're making no sense. You say the issue is "simplifying" but suggest "use simple shapes", so I have to simplify even further in order to stop simplifying? Kek.You also didn't say which part is wrong. You just made vague statements implying something was wrong. And your gestures don't look much better than mine.I can tell that in your left gesture, the pelvic bone is straight when it should be tilted, while the scapulas imply the arms are tilted but the ribcage is straight.It's true that my lines aren't confident, though.
>>8043873That's about as true as it gets, and probably basically what I needed to hear, thanks anon.
>>8043870ask the people that you think are good what they did and do that too
>>8043868More shit for the fuck of it >>8043875I saw that I made a lot of mistakes with the original drawings so I added some more studies of my skeleton to make things clearer in a more general sense.
>>8043875Nta here's what's actually wrong>Thick brush kneecaps you before you even start>Everything has the same depth (effect of your brush size)
>>8041425damn I missed this post. kino drawing king
>>8043875And I think you’re missing the point of the drawing. It isn’t about which gesture looks better, it’s about how you should start a drawing. You’re not starting your drawings in a simple, easy to understand way. You’re drawing contours instead of shapes. Also, you proved my original point by pointing out the flaws in my drawing because like I said: the flaws are easier to spot when you start with a skeleton.
>>8043881Good.>>8043883That makes sense. I'll try to fix it.
>>8043790The problem again is simplicity. Work on finding the most primitive, basic, and easy to understand elements of your drawing for clarity and ease on the viewers eye. Basically, less is more when it comes to a style like this, but your execution has to be more intentional
>>8043474Do you have a ref for this?
>>8043913This is really good but I think the mouth part of the head could stand to be more detailed, especially the tongue. Was a good opportunity for perspective there
>>8043913 that's nice
>>8043915Looking at it now, yeah you're totally right. I'll see what I can do.>>8043916Thank you.
trad sketches for a character
>>8043913You should unironically play that new Hellraiser game.
>>8043924Really good stuff, I’d totally watch a cartoon in this style.
How’s this coming along?
tried drawing something I've never drawn before, and unsurprisingly it fucking sucks
>>8043913I love this, aside from what the other anon said I'd also look into practicing abdominals muscles a little more, though this one's not too bad.
>>8043938thanks a lot
>>8043944Once again, simplicity and PLANNING, especially if this is something you’ve never drawn before. You HAVE to master taking the subject and making it as simple to understanding as possible, even if you don’t know anything about the anatomy. You’re thinking too much as someone that already knows how to draw a Jellyfish. You have to take what information that is given to you and THEN transform it into the most simple, easy to remember concepts in art: shapes and forms. Use line weight, shape variation, and simple form shading to guide you. TLDR; literally just plan and simplify
>>8043958No problem keep it up
>>8043961yes daddy ty
>>8043965lol you’re welcome
portrait soft passwill try to finish it tomorrow...
>>8043940pretty cool, good job getting the face right this early in the rendering. the rest will be easy nowhands might be too large though. can't pick her nose with fingers like those
>>8043974this
>>8043913Your art is so good. I genuinely think you're someone who can actually make it, between the sex appeal and the character designs everything you draw is extremely interesting, which is the most important thing in art. I know yours is a sketch but looking at your other works, things I personally would recommend working on is primarily line control, the sketchy feel with your art is good, but I'd suggest at least giving yourself consistent, confident strokes at least for the outline border of your characters. Other small things would be the hips, specifically the iliac spine and how the protrusion aligns with the connection of the legs, and the abdomen muscles.
3+ yearsStill in beg.Just stop drawing. It's over.
>>8044000Don't ever give up
>>8043928Looks neat, but I really know nothing about Hellraiser. Thanks for the recommendation.>>8043946Yeah I think abdominals are a little bit of a weak point for me. I just have so much I intend on studying that I don't actually study any of it.>>8043992Damn, thanks man. I really needed that confidence boost in terms of the subjects I draw. And yeah the iliac spine is totally messed up. One of those things I only notice after I step away from the drawing for a little bit. As for the line control I totally agree and it's been something that's been fucking me over ever since elementary school in the form of writing. I think I just have the habit of making marks without thinking first, which has been tough to give up. I'll need to try harder. Anyway, thanks again, means a lot coming from someone whose art really like.
>>8043879I WAS going to be like "They always just tell me they don't know and they just drew", but then I realized that was it.
How do you guys paint many shades of gray when studying shading or values? Do you simply change pressure? Opacity? Do you pick different gray colors in the color palette?I ask because I tried and it was annoying having to constantly change colors manually when painting the sphere different shades of grey to represent light and shadows.
>>8044011>I needed the confidence boostSHUT UP. SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU FUCKING HUMBLEBRAGGING TALENTED RAT.>>8044000YOU JUST NEED TALENT. LOOK AT THAT NIGGER MOGGING THE USUALS IN BARELY HALF A YEAR.>>8043992GET HIS DICK OUT OF YOUR MOUTH. YOU HAVE BEEN DRAWING THE SAME TACO INSIPID SHIT FOR 5 YEARS FUCKING 5 YEARS SINCE YOU STARTED POSTING HERE AND THE ONLY TIME YOU EVER DO SOMETHING BARELY APPEALING IS WHEN YOU STEAL FROM SOMEONE WITH TALENT. YOU ARENT GOING TO GET SOME OF HIS TALENT NO MATTER HOW MUCH OF HIS CUM YOU SLURP YOU FAG SHUT THE FUCK UP.
>>8044030pressure control opacity + color picker
>8044047You're trying way too hard.
>>8044047trvth nuke
>replying to xirselfSad
>>8044047stop glazing him retard or are you intentionally trying to induce him into early set dunning-krueger
>>8044053im not them. in fact that one dude saying „wow you might actually be gmi“ from a basic human anatomy study with some clams slapped on it made me audibly sigh irl.
>>8044056So true sis, never compliment someone, just be an insufferable faggot that all caps useless retard babble every thread.
>>8044056It is not just about what you can do but what you do with what you can do. You just do your studies but never slapped any clams
>>8044064It's also retarded for xir to call it "anatomy studies"Like nigger, is every drawing of a naked human an "anatomy study," let alone a monster hybrid?
>>8043029Look at the bright side: you might still draw like shit, but at least you don't sound like an offbrand muppet character when you speak. >I just copied everything I saw, and if it looked like the original, I considered it good. At least he's giving you the keys to the ferrarri anon, you saw what he did and how it worked for him, now you can do it too.
>>8043738getting good proportions down early is really important since they are the foundation to the drawing. try to capture both the gesture and the proportions at the same time. might be too hard if you're just starting. so focus your studies on gesture at first, then proportions, then gesture and proportions together. if anything goes wrong, analyze it and try to figure out what went wrong. try to fix it and apply it to the next one. redoing the same pose multiple times is good for practicing too.
>>8044081I legitimately don't understand the "talent" meme. It really is as easy as "copy what you see"+"draw a lot."
>>8044137talent is just an excuse to not work hard or to diminish someone else's hard work
what does this look like?
>>8043992That's good advice... if you ignore the drawing, because, man, you made it look so flat and lifeless. There's a gap between knowledge and knowing how to apply it.
>>8043753This needs some serious rework. The shot is heavily distorted, so I wouldn’t worry too much about anatomy here. Instead, focus on making sure the main shapes read well and make sense in the direction of the motion.For example, the trapezoid formed by the joint between the arm and chest is very appealing to me.I think visualizing what’s happening in profile would be useful for determining the angle of the chest and hips. This is the best I can come up with, and even then, people will probably have very different opinions about it.My suggestion is to find a hentai pro shot in a similar position and study it. but excellent work this is hard!>>8043750I’m a believer that great results require time more than anything else, but I think you are working the paper too much, and you can no longer create more contrast effectively. I think you have flattened the paper fibers, and you won’t be able to push the contrast any further. The thumbnail is reading really badly.Work on your contrast, and honestly evaluate whether you have to start over.>>8043731That you are not trying your best on this study.
>>8043789It's so weird to see someone studying other artists around their skill level.>But I'm not-You have imposter syndrome. Well, as long as it works for you it's fine I guess.
>>8044188100000% not starting it over I’m ass deep into it already wtf I understand your points about the contrast but I just need to finish this. And yeah a see how the thumbnail reads badly but it doesn’t matter at this point, and like I said, I just need to get it done.
>>8044188This comment is eye opening because it’s insane to me that you’d even float the idea of starting that over. People on here have a problem with aiming for perfectionism instead of just finishing their work and creating a lot of art- and that’s why y’all are stuck in beg right there.
>>8044191Dude, to be honest, being able to know when to start over and disregard your previous work is one of the biggest leaps you can make as a creator. If you tell me that, at the stage you’re at right now, you can still create more contrast, I’ll say keep going. But from that photo, it looks like the paper is overworked.You’re not bad, but you lack mileage. I know you’ve done your best, and it shows!
>>8044196As a traditional artist, starting over is very rarely an option. It’s not about that particular piece, it’s about the principle of starting your work over. For the most part, starting over isn’t the best for you as an artist. As someone who has finished countless projects, starting over holds you back more than it puts you forward, because it stops you from moving on to the NEXT drawing, which is more important than the one you’re on.
>>8044208
>>8043777Kek
>>8044191I don’t see it as perfectionism. I see it as the medium in this piece being exhausted, and further work will yield diminishing results. The problem I see more often here is not spending enough time in the thumbnailing and sketching stages, which are lessons learned through mileage.>>8044200If progress can no longer be made with the current work, either starting over or moving on to the next one are both viable solutions, whether it’s art or a project where other people’s livelihoods depend on it. But that’s just my opinion. If the anon believes he can salvage it, I’ll be rooting for him.
>>8044216It is perfectionism. The goal should be to finish the piece; not worry about how the results look. You won’t get to the results if you don’t finish it. >>8044216Progress can be made by finishing the work. The piece can’t get any better if I stop working on it. It’s not about salvaging the piece, or even starting over and moving on in the middle- it’s about finishing what you started. That’s literally all I’m saying.
More slop. No idea how to draw children and landscapes or render. I think I started putting in color for the landscape too early, the lineart was still workable (even if it does look like stretched taffy). Definitely need to bring my daily draw hours back up again.https://files.catbox.moe/5bj6jl.png>>8043318I guess. Thanks>>8043886I love you king
>>8044224I think I made the face a bit betterhttps://files.catbox.moe/jl0v40.png
>>8044222we are either not understanding each other or we have different opinions, but this isn't getting anywhere8044225the way you are painting lips is improving a lot, great work. for backgrounds, you can find some great work to study from artists like Piranesi, Adolphe Appian, or Stanley Haseltine.
>>8044225>>8044227
>>8044179my first impression was that is is metalbut i think it's meant to be ice
been figure drawing for two weeks and havent gotten better
>>8044256You studying anatomy alongside those drawings?
>>8044256pyw
>>8043754>>8044188Thanks, I'll try to do some of these. I honestly screwed it up more than I should have because I was going for a certain pose, failed, and tried to wing it from there.Very insightful.
https://files.catbox.moe/5x9jz4.pngwould appreciate some pointers/things to focus on moving forward
>>8044256Two weeks is literally nothing
>>8044256how many figures
>image limitMAKE A NEW THREAD ALREADY
>>8043777It really isn't. Do you expect full anatomical accuracy from anime stylization?
>>8044290bigly many, I draw at work and at home.
>>8044310evidence?
>>8044286focus on finishing the drawing
>>8044286contrast/values
>>8044216Are (You) more in the draw from imagination mindset?>>8044222Are (You) more in the drawing from reference to learn mindset?sort of new, but wondering if opinions about iterating and perfectionism are related to drawing from imagination, and if drawing from reference learning is related to finishing each piece.My clueless conjecture being that if you are trying to learn by drawing from reference it would make sense to finish each piece so you can better compare, etc, whereas if you mainly draw from imagination you'll sketch a lot of hopeless attempts that are better to abandon so you can get more iterations in. Not sure if these are related though.
>>8044330you're overthinking itif you want to improve, you need to fix mistakes either you fix them by starting over, or you run away and find new mistakes to fix
>>8044342I'm not really trying to figure out how to improve, I think I know how to, just trying to see if these two schools of thought are related or not, as I fall into one of the two camps myself.
MAKE new threade pls >>8044047woof>>8043712cool>>8043474sexe
>>8044343there are no schools of thought, that's retardation you just came up withsometimes it's ok to move on, sometimes you need to struggle and push throughyou don't need to pick a side
I NEED A NEW THREAD SO I CAN POST MY WORK AND GET (YOU)S AAAAAAAAAAAA
>>8044346>that's retardation you just came up withMaybe, that's why I asked...Can I ask you? For a beginner, would you recommend tracing/trying to redraw a reference, or mainly drawing from imagination to learn.if it's a mix, is it 50/50, or what should they spend the most time on.Then when it comes to finishing pieces, would you say it's more important to get lot of attempts in, even if it means barely finishing anything, or is it more fruitful to see as many finished pieces through to the end as possible, even if you don't sketch as many attempts.
>>8044356>would you recommend tracing/trying to redraw a reference, or mainly drawing from imagination to learn.80/20 if for job25/75 if for fun
>>8044356when you're drawing from a ref, you have instant feedback if you overlay itwhen you draw from imagination, you are recalling the things you know, which is important, but there's no objective feedback to check againstthis is the split an experienced animator recommendshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRE9dOR6djQ
just make a thread, fuck the collage
>>8044359>>8044362I see. Interesting, the reference split is higher than I thought, but makes sense.I also see a split in opinions about whether people should abandon something as a lesson learned and move on to something else, or try to finish stuff as much as possible even if it's flawed.Is there any consensus there? Like try to maybe finish at least one complete drawing a day, finish every piece, or don't worry about color, shading and clean lines until you've got decent sketches you're happy with.
>>8044371it all depends on your tolerance for failure, once it becomes frustrating it's better to shelve it and work on something else>Is there any consensus there?again, it depends on your goals and free timea finished illustration per week is a good goal to have, like the dude in >>8043029
>>8044362>when you draw from imagination, you are recalling the things you knowThat's not true lmao
>>8044374isn't it epistemically true though. If you can draw things that you don't know, a person who was born blind would be able to draw a horse from imagination.You kind of have to know what something is to imagine it, even if you make something new, like a sphere with 20 curved spines ending in triangles, you still have to know what a sphere, curve, spine and triangle is to draw it.
>>8044382exactly'what you know' gets improved by looking at things and drawing them, the knowledge gets refined and more preciseit doesn't mean you don't get to play with that knowledge, like drawing a girl with a clam's head and giant tits, but it still stems from knowledge of things
>>8044386>but it still stems from knowledge of thingsThis is again, not true at all.
>>8044374It might not be true in a literal image space, but it isn't beamed from outer space, it is based on the knowledge and experience you possess. The process of using it probably has some emergent properties, but it is still an input-output model. I'm kind of eeem of the "feedback" thing—it's kind of apples and oranges. And you can get feedback on your work by comparing it to a "good work" or real thing, it just would not be based on direct pixel comparison.
>>8044374Yes it is. Draw me a kangaroo if you have never seen one then and don't know what one looks like then
>>8044374People be just saying things
>>8044388>And you can get feedback on your work by comparing it to a "good work" or real thingthat's true, and why I qualified it with 'objective' feedbackit's also the reason naoki recommends having an artist to imitate when doing original stuff, it makes this type of feedback easier
>>8044389His argument is that you do not need to ever see a kangaroo reading a book in a chair to make an image of it. You still need to know what a kangaroo is for it to be a kangaroo.
I'm not really an artist, but I tried to make an animation (unfinished).Kinda demotivated, do you guys think this is worth pursuing?https://www.youtube.com/shorts/C8JtZFWt4BQ
>>8044389A kangaroo is a thing that exists
Not only I should have seen an animal you call a kangaroo but you can evaluate my success at drawing kangaroo only if know how it should look like. But I can draw a four-tit blobarion in a chair despite neither you or me ever seen one
>>8044395there a few parts in the beginning you could edit out, they seem unnecessary to the plotI'm sure you can either record yourself or get better voice lines from slop these days, the voices sound terrible and distract from the whole thing
>>8044395it's peak. as in, it's not something I expected when I clicked the link. how did you animate this. it looks like something from an in-game video editor
I'm not sure my gestures / anatomy are getting better, but at least I'm getting faster.At first it took me 5 hours to draw a simple figure, then it was 2 hours, and this time it was 1 hour.https://files.catbox.moe/hw6esl.jpgI tried making lines darker in the closer side, following anons' advice.
>>8044403It's just blender. Almost all the surfaces are emission lit which gives it a retro feel. Ty for the compliment
>>8044404By overlaying I realized the figure was surprisingly close to the model. The only thing I got wrong was the arms, though right leg should have been a bit further out.
>>8044399it's funny you used blobarion as example, since that's very obviously a mashup of two things you know: a blob and the common greek name/suffix -arion, usually found in fantasy settings, and the rest are still things you know (four tits, chair)just shows how bound you are to the things you know
>>8044404Oh wait, that isn't the one with the darker lines. Kek.
>>8044404>>8044406>>8044409https://files.catbox.moe/vn27hl.jpg
>>8044410finish up the hands and place the facial features before trying to renderdraw bigger (or with a smaller brush) to have enough resolution for it
>>8044407I never disputed that it would always be experience-based, just not in a very strict, literal image sense. The name is deliberate so you could form your own mental image of the thing to get the idea across, having a word for it is link to reality. If I called it "Gnnn" it would be too abstract.
>>8044413I'm not trying to render. I'm just adding some shadows to add a sense of depth or 3D.I was doing the Vilppu Drawing Manual course/book and always wondered why my figures looked like utter shit, not like the book's. Then came the chapter on shading and the Vilppu motherfucker goes "btw I've been using shading all this time, that's why your figures looked like shit and not like mine" (paraphrase).That's why I added some shading.>draw bigger (or with a smaller brush) to have enough resolution for itMy brush size is 4-10px, my canvas is 1920x1080, my screen is 1366x768. I don't want to be constantly zooming and panning around for every stroke.I'm just doing basic figures here.
>>8044422I'm telling you to finish the drawing, then add shadows and whatever else you likeyour drawing is not finished, humans have hands and faces
>>8044431And I'm telling you what I'm drawing is the gesture or figure itself, not the hands and faces. Putting hands and face on the model won't add any dimensionality to the gesture. It's unnecessary detail for the purpose of the drawing.I'll still do it anyways (it will look like shit).
FUCK THE COLLAGE JUST MAKE A NEW THREAD
>>8044432>it will look like shita very good reason to do it, face that shit head on
>>8044439just draw
>>8044442>>8044431https://files.catbox.moe/4ey2bq.jpgHappy now, fag? You need to understand that people cannot practice everything at once. When a beginner is learning gesture and figure, you cannot expect them to practice anatomically accurate hands and faces at the same time.
i made a collage and all but 4chan wont upload the thread. guess its not happening people
>>8044456the face and especially the hair is completely offlearning to copy accurately would be a better use of your timehttps://imgur.com/N9drytO
>>8044461No shit, FAGGOT. That's why I didn't draw them. I haven't studied faces and hair yet. You fucking retard.>hurr durr draw the face draw the face>wtf why did you draw the face that looks like shitYou fucking imbecile. Lmao.
>>8044463look at the image link, it shows you how to copy things you don't know how to drawlater on you can tack on anatomy or whatever, but learning to see and draw is step one
>>8044467Okay.
>>8044439Don't rush it, there's time.
>>8044527No it’s bc we reached image limit
useless fucks, make a new thread
make it yourself nigga
>>8044553it's time to leave /beg/ anonthe big leagues are waiting
don't make another threadthis is the last /beg/
NEW THREAD NEW THREAD>>8037741>>8037741>>8037741
>>8044572based recyclerkeeping /ic/ eco friendly
>>8044188i have redrawn that copy again but this thread reached image limit lol i will post in the next one hope it's better this time
I tried using the Accuracy method that anon recommended. I think it came out pretty well.https://files.catbox.moe/ybiko6.jpg
>>8044571At least I was part of it
youre getting a shittly lowres op againNEW THREAD>>8044643>>8044643>>8044643
