If you are a /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.DO NOT REPLY to crabs, nodraws, over-analyzing schizos, retards that whine about how hard drawing is or talent debates and instead focus on posted works!>Post Your Work>STICKY:New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0QHardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?viewHardcore (working link): https://hackmd.io/@ArtStudies/rJxNW6aonHardcore (wayback archive):https://hackmd.io/@0uRfwdEoRDiHFz9wibb5sA/ry8nyys6-lCompleted(short):https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jUeG8UTwDAK8WGC4f79IlBGIAGVipfHvo48RF5Xgxyc (sus discord server don't join)Completed: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vm4IJpq0Mbvb-Krl5_mJ_m6TsC_qjsaN/vieww/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/>WHERE to get study materials>>>/ic/artbook>>>/ic/video>Want to practice figures?quickposes.comcharacterdesigns.comlovelifedrawing.composemy.artline-of-action.com>best art teachersGlenn VilppuMichael HamptonSteve HustonBrent EvistonMarco BucciAndrew LoomisGeorge BridgmanHikaru HayashiHide Sensei>best art booksKeys To DrawingDrawing With the Right Side of the BrainHow To Draw Comics the Marvel WayThe Art and Science of DrawingFramed PerspectiveFigure Drawing For All It's WorthThe Complete Guide to Drawing From LifePrevious thread: >>8019308
fffffffck... I never make it to the thread image...
And so the cursed land of /begint/ survives yet another day..
Onlyfans adds piss me off…feet, perspective, watercolor, and detail conservation practice
VERY good collage
>>8022765One day you will. It's mostly a game of roulette.
How do I get myself to draw more challenging stuff? I have a hard time reading books so that's not really an option
>>8022770look at art from an artist you really like and try to incorporate some aspect of their art in your next work
its the same robot from b4 but with the cool pilot guy too in the background.rly fucked up the legs.prolly try n fix eventually
not including me in the op is the only respite the opps have against me>>8022770? just do?
>>8022776The robot is the least cool part. The portrait and the gun are more cool
>>8022778How is a T-posing Peach without legs more challenging
>>8022770need actual creativity
>>8022776Pretty good but the perspective of the gun is kind of fried in relation to the body
>>8022786The clique is at it again.
>>8022759A woman made this collage
>>8022789h-hot
>>8022776bleep bloop
this was supposed to be just a warmup but I ended up having fun and drawing 6 of my favorites
work in progress, tried a bit more of an action pose this time
>>8022798hey this looks much better than your regular stuffthe black line weight makes the drawing pop more, and the higher contrast use in colors also make it popkeep it up, its definitely a step in the right direction
>>8022798solid work
>>8022781when did i say it was?
>>8022802Some broken logic on my part
Thread challenge
>>8022805should at least present your attempt if you're reposting your Facebook
Better quality? And sorry to the coomers I'm still more film nerd than pervert
>>8022819Thread challenge btw. Maybe all of us posting these challenges really are retarded
>>8022819Such mood swings. I rejoiced thinking you got banned for a moment.
for the person who asked for a recording:https://files.catbox.moe/1k5pem.mp4Miguel Iglesias is my inspiration for this kind of process and he records his process on youtube. So a better recource for learning.
>>8022819>sorry coomers here's a blowjobwtf are you talking about
>>8022825Bad habit of inventing criticism and trying address it, that's why I'm usually quiet. I just prefer evocative images over the clean photos of extreme angle poses that often get posted. I dunno if people genuinely prefer that
there are artists from 500 years ago that mog every here
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RFJi3l1DPWk
>>8022835no way bro, they "mog" beginners? how could that be..maybe you should buy a rope and kill yourself for being so goddamn retarded
>>8022838pyw or be quiet
>>8022835Name one.
>>8022840maybe you should be quiet instead of spewing your abhorrent shit in the general? you fucking retard
>>8022842albrecht durer>>8022843I accept your concession
I am using a sharpener. But the pencil never gets sharp, the tip is always a garbage-thick thing. Does that mean the quality of the pen is garbage? Or the sharpener? It is a B one, but the same happened to an HB.
>>8022850>albrecht durerLiterally who, LMAO. /beg/int/ anons, here is an art of this pathetic old man as a thread challenge. Let's murder him with our MUCH SUPERIOR art. As if a retard from medieval times who didn't know anime could draw as good as us, ROFL.
>>8022852If you want the sharpest tip of the pencil point you have to practice rotating your pencil. It's a good habit to work on now to develop the practice of constantly stopping and examining your work and thinking about what you've done and want to do next. Of course Just using a mechanical pencil might be enough >>8022858Based drawer combo-breaking the guy getting baited
>>8022864It is a pencil sharpener, not a blade. So it is already rotating.
Didn't quite read. Yeah many sharpeners are shit, I've heard people claim old handcrank elementary school sharpeners are the best if you can find them. In any case tip control isn't something people really talk about with pencil, but it is useful to get a feel for it
>>8022852youre supposed to use a knife to sharpen your pencils, sharpeners are for kids at school and office clerks
Does she look cute?
help me with this pose guys please
>>8022874Only of you promise to show it once it's finished. I'm still waiting on that big throne dude drawing
>>8022875wait really? I was just practicing in generalIs it better to complete it altogether? Because thing is I don't know how to draw armor or fur or scales or weapons or that sort of shit yet, still practicing with bodies
>>8022872Talented rats are the worst..
>>8022872very cuteleft looks a bit out of perspective, or the eyes slightly too far apart idk
>>8022872yes actually
>>8022879>Is it better to complete it altogether?yes, listen tohttps://youtu.be/jK2mrZp1e94?t=97
>>8022879I figured there were finished versions of these somewhere. The sketches are usually pretty nice so I would like to see where these are going occasionally
>>8022893ok so i should finish it, but any tips for this stage?
>>8022895yeah, you know you're rightit's about time i make a full piecegonna need to learn shading...
>>8022896proportions are still the biggest problem imobut finishing will let you see other issues and give you other areas to work on
>>8022898can you elaborate? like the pelvis?
>>8022872Nice work
>>8022905>the length of the legs vs the upper body>the length of the forearm vs the upper arm>the upper arm beign longer than the ribcage>the size of the head vs the ribcage>the length of the lower leg vs the upper legdrawing more from ref (and being accurate) will fix all ot these
>>8022908oh thanks, funny thing i am reading xiaos book and hampton's but i guess i forgot about the proportions, my bad
>>8022770
scraps from recently>>8022923very nice
cant draw bros, mind feels cloudy
>>8022934C'mon now anon
>>8022930Just let it rain..
>>8022934i remember specifically analyzing this loomis drawing wondering if i was insane for thinking it looks really chopped
Need to work on my proportions
Kinda losing my mind here, when Loomis and hide draw the perpendicular axes around a sphere the major axes of the resulting ellipses are always perpendicular (like, perpendicular as flat lines on your paper), but I'm rotating this 3D model around in Blender and the ellipse axes are clearly not perpendicular. In fact I can't find any possible rotation + camera angle that makes them perpendicular once you leave simple straight on views. Does anyone know where the discrepancy is coming from?Model is https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/loomis-head-study-with-a-neck-3b7c75bc122943959f0d61abac11c413 but I don't think the model is wrong, I've checked all the other Loomis head models on Sketchfab and they all show the same thing. Feel like I'm gonna have to get a clear plastic sphere irl and wrap rubber bands around it
>>8022957Loomis for reference, notice that no matter how he tilts the ball the ellipse axes are still perfectly perpendicular
>>8022805kek, these nerds want transhumanism so bad
>>8022957I'm not sure if I understood your question. Can you bring the hide/loomis examples?
>>8022962I posted the Loomis example, here's a hide example too at a more extreme angle. Both of them say "draw a circle, draw a straight line down the middle and a straight line across the middle, those are your ellipse axes. Draw the ellipses. Bam, you have perpendicular ellipses going around the circle". i.e. the axes of both ellipses are perpendicular. But when I rotate the 3D model, especially at more extreme angles, the ellipse axes are not perpendicular.
permabeg euthanasia is the ethical position
permabeg revolt and int genocide is my motive for existing
Loomis is the key to this
>>8022975Now draw the 3d guidelines
>>8022977Cause he's a funnier character than we've ever had before
I tend to draw gigantic boobs on every girl I draw, but I had a revelation recently. I started rewatching Highschool of the Dead for the first time in years. I loved this anime when I was younger, so I thought it'd be worth a revisit. Thing is, I remember all the girls in it having massive, bigger-than-their-head boobs. But when I quickly realized... that's not the case. Look at this: https://files.catbox.moe/uuoq29.jpg(Posting catbox link to not take away from the image limit) Compared to the gigantic boobs of the coom art of today, Saeko's boobs look kind of small (even though they are big by irl standards). It's sort of like boobs have undergone a "powercreep" over the years, or "boobcreep." But my point is this: Saeko, and all the HoTD girls, are still sexy as hell. And they do it without having gigantic breasts. And it's making me re-evaluate how I draw female bodies... I feel like I want to RETVRN to tradition.
>>8022986return to fertility goddess then
>>8022986I'm glad you understand anonymous
What should I be looking for when I do 1 minute gesture drawings? Like 60 in an hour type stuff. I'm very much going through the motions and probably should be correcting or adjusting how I do stuff?
>>8022967The straight line dead on the center is the axis of the sphere (in the hide/loomis). A sphere has an infinite amount of ellipses in all directions. For the formed ellipses for the eyes, think about their plane. The minor goes to the vanishing point, the major is a 90 from the minor on the center of the ellipse. That said, if you are viewing the head from an up/down perspective, it is 3 point and the true 90 will be distorted because the verticals also converge. Still, I am not sure what might be confusing you here, given your query:>but I'm rotating this 3D model around in Blender and the ellipse axes are clearly not perpendicular. In fact I can't find any possible rotation + camera angle that makes them perpendicular once you leave simple straight on views
>>8022928Thanks, I love your art so it means a lot
>>8022797so, where is Gardevoir?
>>8022989timed gesture drawings are a /beg/ trapdon't do them unless you are already mid /int/
>>8022989if you're not getting much out of them, try 2 minute ones, focusing on proportion and formhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWApNvDTynM
>>8022989
>>8022975Ok let me put it this way. Which ellipse is the correct way of drawing the perpendicular axis through the marked point, the red one or the purple one? The red one is what you get if you do the Loomis/hide way of making both ellipse axes perpendicular, purple is what the 3D model is saying. Everything here except the red ellipse was traced from https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/sphere-01-ad7a22ab242c4714962b1d284796effdWhat I'm saying is that the ellipses clearly tilt in a way that Loomis doesn't tell you how to account for, he just says "draw an X through the circle" but that clearly gives you the wrong ellipses. The red and the purple ellipse here are different shapes, they can't both be correct.
>>8022989You should focus on attaining efficiency and making sure you are correctly describing the torso.
>>8022957wth man, you're supposed to connect the centers of the green ellipses. getting the major and minor of ellipses always has been some kind of guess game...
>>8022995gardevoir is overrated
>>8022999you're thinking it the wrong way, your setup is underconstrainedfirst determine what tilt the head should be (the three orthogonal axes that go top, front and right), then figure out their ellipsesthe straight vertical is a simplification to keep things managable for faily straight on views
>>8023008true
anons, I need some ugly bastard references, could you guys post yourselves?
>>8023029Do ugly bastards have to be dark skinned?
>>8022769It helps to be on the official clique discord server.
What's the right balance between constructing based on rules and artistic expression? And how does that relate to having a recognizable style?
wolf
>>8023041just keep drawing, lil guppyyou're nowhere near the level to be asking such questions
>>8023041isn't style supposed to be something you develop overtime while learning your fundamentals?, of course you can hybrid it earlier if you take different styles and merge them together... a potential problem is think/sayi "it's my style" to cover up mistakes and misunderstanding lakes on your knowledge, or actually believing that it's your style which is even worse...
>>8023041For you? 100% rules, 0% expression. Sorry but that’s just how it goes in the beginning
I CANT FUCKING DRAW.
>>8022874ok i tried drawing one of dem howling banshees because why notit looks like shit, damn
>>8022975>>8022999if u gonna be a constructoid from day one you already failedyou cant learn to draw like this
i tried to spend less time on it today, so it's a bit sloppy.my faces still seem very flat, and hands are still very hard.
>>8023049>>8023058Mind critiquing my drawing? :3
what seperates a study from an original drawing /ic/
>>8023076nothing when im drawing
>>8022997Thanks, 2 minutes actually let me observe I wasn't getting nervous shakes, though most of these are just 1 minute.
>>8022768>Just a bunch of noninteractive pictures
>>8022831So you're a liar and a coomer who doesn't understand artistic poses. A literal tourist on this board.
>>8023083Non-interacting*
I lost my collage virginity...
>Want to draw porn>Go looking for references>Get horny>Coom>No longer want to draw porn
>>8023083yeah but I was included
>>8023088So how was it?
>>8022779hell yeh>>8022785yeah ill get better someday>>8022795[-*_*-]<3
>I CANT FUCKING DR-ACK!
>>8023066oh yeah, tips?
i hate drawing but i want to get goodi hate drawing i hate drawing i hate drawing
>>8023124Then get the fuck off /ic/ and go play a video game pussy
>>8023124You will never produce anything noteworthy.
>>8023124You just need talent.
>>8023131low effort slop
>>8023133that's all /ic/ deserves
>>8023131I see the vision
>>8023137based
>>8023089You need to learn to feed yourself the reward only after the activity itself. Draw horny for as much as you can resist, and once you finish the drawing, you masturbate or something. Become addict to this feeling and the rewards are going to come naturally! >>8022797The first page of my sketchbook when I started learning was a drawing of Numel, Sharpedo, Shedinja and Latias... maybe I should try to redraw them now and see how it goes.
>>8023137this.
we have got the blind leading the blind now, hell yeah!
>>8023153>Draw horny for as much as you can resistI wonder if artists within the renaissance were as pathetic as us.
>>8023159painting was essentially reserved for the privileged incel freaks
>>8023119I think you have to be an actual retard to still post basedjaks
>>8023163I think you have to be an actual retard to think that
>>8023155where? I don't see it
low-resolve studies
>>8022759few of the many faces i made in between trying to not procastinate, judge them, laught at them, ignore themalso i really like that Heavy metal F.A.K.K. 2 girl in red armor in the OP
>>8023131Low effort? maybe. Still my favourite in the thread though
>>8022768>no low /beg/ allowedTerrible collage, adios clique meet the new clique.
low effort but I have been sick this week and just wanted to finish it
>>8022759Today’s perspective practice
>>8023199Next I want to draw sansei muramasa
>>8023201kino chocolate
>>8023125im tired of video games>>8023128true.>>8023130yeah this is true. i hate the talented and gifted. life is unfair. so guess what?
I am tired of pretending AI crit isnt good.
>>8023222it can be good to get you thinking differently about stuff
>>8023222it isn't very good if you're not an impressionable idiot
>>8023222if you want to draw like AI then go ahead lil anime gay
>>8023222You're supposed to get hardened by your journey through the crucible of shitty advice, not crumble into dust
>>8023222God tier critique tool. HONEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEY WAKE THE FUCK UP *beats wife and autistic kid zoomer (28yo bald) with his shitty zoomer stare to death**drinks alcohol*NEW XIAO KINO JUST DROPPED
Proko skull I guess came out pretty good
>>8023234AI is nice, doesnt post their own superior art to humble brag and gives consise advice
>>8023237ref
>>8023199>pspfuckin’ based
>>8023240That's a pxg dumbass
>>8023237why are you copying dislocated jaws
>>8023186old clique was kino, new clique is soulless af
>>8023239Hey yo hold up the eyeball is INSIDE the socket? i thoughted it was on the outside
>>8023240i can't read too, idiletracy is pretty cool fr ong wanna be bff besties 67
>>8023245very trooncore they've really ramped up the programming the past years
>>8023241what is a pxg
would you hit an int artist with a baseball bat to become as talented as them?
>>8023244The exercise is just simplifying to CSI lines, it doesn't matter.>>8023247huh?
>>8023266muscles cover the bone doe
>>8023267Do you suffer from brain damage?
>>8023268knowing that the arm is sandwiched between the body and the back makes me anxious and i still can't visualize it.
>>8023271proof?
>>8023271Is this supposed to be funny? Haha I'm such a schizo?Shut up, dude.
>>8023274not everyone knows the layout of the body my dude, thats craaaazy i know fr, but i always thought the eyeball was outside the socket alongside the muscles fr ong , skill issue caught in 4k
anyone got a fix for the other eye?>>8023245thats awesome
>>8023277Thank yyou
>>8023048Wonky leg perspective
>>8023245COOL!11!11!11
>>8023283Thank you
>>8023121
>>8023288The virgin barrel chest vs the CHAD hip thrust man
>>8023288 Phonk bros.... what the fuck is this
>>8023288but i thought i separated the torso correctly, you are supposed to tilt them in the opposite direction right?
So this is the power of Hogarth...
>>8023304
>>8023301is what it comes down to
>>8022433requesting video source pleasei want to quit forever..not just from art
>>8023312I don't remember. My best guess is it was a video by oridays because I was watching his stuff while falling asleep for a while, and he's one of those people who likes to talk about the science behind motivation and skill development. Or it could have been something else unrelated to drawing entirely.
>>8023312>>8022433lol, so that's why I keep working hard at it, awesome! I always wanted to do what my favorite artists do; if they can, why can't I?
>>8023066>>8023118>>8023245hell yeh robots
i drew this curvy girl
>>8023288
>>8023327I stand like this
>>8023327me pulling up to /beg/ with my certified int art
>>8023153i havent masterbated in 4 days bruh
>>8022759deck 1 of 12 WIP for my covie ship. gonna get this ship made in blender this locktober.
>>8023089you can actually get to a point where looking nude females does not instantly activates neuron but can still do it if you want
>>8023334i'm on anti-aggression and anti-sad medications that render me completely immune to physical arousal, but i still love looking at big tiddy anthro wolf women and kissing them. i just don't get hard or desire touching myself.highly recommend rrisperidone and zoloft for aspiring artists. best part is that it's basically permanent, like the vasectomy i had when i turned 18. now i'm an astartes.
>>8023245hypermogs the entire thread>>8023327woah mama
>>8023327overcompensating much?
>>8022975>>8022999>>8023067my first days
>>8023324>why can't I?you have hopei don't . and cant change my mind after being in improvement hell for over a year
>>8023345idk my man, i been drawing for almost 8 years and just got exponential improvements in the last one...
