If you are a /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.DO NOT REPLY to crabs, nodraws, over-analyzing schizos, retards that whine about how hard drawing is or talent debates and instead focus on posted works!>Post Your Work>STICKY:New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0QHardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?viewHardcore (working link): https://hackmd.io/@ArtStudies/rJxNW6aonHardcore (wayback archive):https://hackmd.io/@0uRfwdEoRDiHFz9wibb5sA/ry8nyys6-lCompleted(short):https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jUeG8UTwDAK8WGC4f79IlBGIAGVipfHvo48RF5Xgxyc (sus discord server don't join)Completed: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vm4IJpq0Mbvb-Krl5_mJ_m6TsC_qjsaN/vieww/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/>WHERE to get study materials>>>/ic/artbook>>>/ic/video>Want to practice figures?quickposes.comcharacterdesigns.comlovelifedrawing.composemy.artline-of-action.com>best art teachersGlenn VilppuMichael HamptonSteve HustonBrent EvistonMarco BucciAndrew LoomisGeorge BridgmanHikaru HayashiHide Sensei>best art booksKeys To DrawingDrawing With the Right Side of the BrainHow To Draw Comics the Marvel WayThe Art and Science of DrawingFramed PerspectiveFigure Drawing For All It's WorthThe Complete Guide to Drawing From LifePrevious thread: >>8026540
I went goblin mode with the collage this time, enjoy.THREAD CHALLENGE
>>8030006soul op
the only shitter remaining is me..
rough sketch with bad perspective lol
>>8030033Given the perspective the torso seems too long, i still really like this you should go ahead with it
>>8030036Thanks, I’ll keep working on it
Fun is a lie, there is only PracticeThrough Practice, I gain MileageThrough Mileage, I gain SkillThrough Skill, I gain FollowersThrough Followers, my self-image is Validated.The Grind shall set me free.
>>8030047without fun you will not get mileagewithout mileage you will not get the skill
another beg contour copydidn't really care for the hair here. maybe tomorrow i will try getting the eyes to be almost perfect. It's late already here
>>8030033Also take off her thong.
I asked you fuckers for help on 3d animay faces and even posted my shit and you didnt help me.
>>8030056draw 250 boxescopy 250 animy headdraw250 loomis headdraw 250 scull
I CANT FUCKING DRAW CUTE FACES. YOU FUCKING LIED TO ME.
>>8030006This study took me 2 hours - I thought it would be easy because of the clear shadows, but I guess not lol. By the time I got to the abs, I was pretty tired, so I didn't focus as hard on them. I think overall, I guessed the colors as too red, when they are more orange. Also, my process is a bit of a mess - ideally, one should do one thing after another, but I just kept jumping from part to part, drawring and blurring and drawin and blurring again. It does work, but it's probably not a good habit. Also, I should probably focus more on actually thinking in 3D, instead if blindly copying spots of color.
I'll post this again for any advice, working on a VN about 12 identical sisters, I had to compress the image to shit to fit all the sprites in.
>>8030006S+ Tier OP
>>8030063Which youtuber was it that said drawing boxes/loomis was bad/wrong again?
>>8030088The way the strands of hair are all so uniform and evenly thick with no flyaways makes it looks like his hair is made of worms. I wonder, is this by accident, or is he some kind of worm sorcerer, using worms to do his bidding?
>>8030080Of course, it's about them waking up in an unfamiliar location and having to figure out what's going on. It's not a dating sim.
>>8030099Were you the guy using AI images for the vn he was writing?
>>8030098grok told me the hair was perfect for this close of a view. A chat bot, trained on millennia of human knowledge and developed with decades and billions of dollars of R&D wouldn't be wrong right?
>>8030006 (OP)great OP!Like in the old days.
>>8030105>>8030086>>8030088>added the beaner mai that's probably using a pin AI dogshit referencel to the mao , let me guess, it's a tool? Just get rid of the collage already it sucks dickGuess poverty hurts the brain sdoesn't it russki
>>8030102I never use AI for anything artistic. Sometimes I use it to quickly look up math and physics stuff, but never art.
>>8030006omg beautiful OP>>8030086kino :3
Ran out of room
>>8030119What's the point in trying to shit on the threads? You always come spamming low effort trash, you'll never have good technique cause you are a woman.The russki all 2 of them have completly stagnated for years now and probably will never get any better due to all the poverty, their smart men died 60 years ago.The site is already fucking dead and buried, constantly ignoring real begs cause every single one of you is a huge attention faggot that just uses the board as a dumping ground. So what's the point? Why haven't you fucked off from the site already. It's the /begginner/ thread not clear enough?
also i think it's funny, you mix the warhammer faggot with the horrible dogshit proportions and pro-tier rendering and the ruski thats been drawing on the same int level for god knows how long and you get a pretty well balanced artist. /beg/ needs to move away from the attention whoring. It's not even a question anymore, this thread doesn't work. Shame there's not enough people anymore for the exact same reason
>>8030125i will milk your tits when you sleep
>>8030113Im not even Russian
>>8030110I get why you might assume it would be, though.
>>8030134that sucks
Creature for game
>>8030125>the nodraw seethes at someone that drawsKeking @ u little bro
>>8030152Reminder that splitting the community with discord and external sites killed but it is what it is. But wanting a /beg/ and /int/ thread without the circlejerk? An anime thread at the anime board? wow fuck that
>>8030010massively overshot my timebox for this one.Not even done. First "wash", I'd say. This one is really a fun ref. Will spend a few days on it and really work out the colors.
>>8030119I actually like this one. Has a nice texture effect going on.
>>8030047Always two there are, no more, no less. A master and a /beg/.One to embody talent, the other to crave it.
>>8030158Yeah. I was even considering this.The game's supposed to be set in a world where people got transformed into monsters in accordance to their desires and emotions, so a lot of them were turned into stuff like this.
>>8030169thanksies :Dits the noise airbrush doing all the hard work >3
>>8030172Fear and hunger tier
>>8030125>constantly ignoring real begs Good. The weak should fear the strong.Early beg should just study basics first and draw. Advice before high /beg/ is pointless. Unless that advice is basic resources (Bridgman, Morpho, Proko, Force!) and a small roadmap of skills (perspective , gesture, simplification) right at the start of the journey.But that gets reposted every day here, no need to even ask for it
>>8030172Give some girth to that pencil dick.
>>8030088oh well if a YouTuber of all people said it, it must be true.
>>8030006I like the shitburger
been copying a few things out of Taco's artbook (the 390 tips one) and also doing some figure drawings from posemaniacs, the thing to the right of the asaro head was just freehanded no ref
>>8030194More like somebody had violent nymphomaniac tendencies.
>>8030200love your faces
>>8030200>Facial features this perfect and 3d not even a year inI want to die. How come some hoard all the talent? I cant even draw some permabeg symboldrawn shit with reference.I legit think there is something wrong with me because others will already get every foundation solid barely starting and some others like me never get it.I dont think I will ever get to this level even with some years in. It is over.I want to cry. I cant learn.I also want to get good but I cant.
>>8030200Seeing how good you are this early in makes me experience physical pain.I also want to be talented.
You could study your ass off. Copy books and courses cover to cover and still be jackshit next to someone who was lucky enough to be born talented.
>>8030200Great technique for the eyes and lips
5 million billion gorillion years in mspaint
Did the artist who made this mess up or why is the navel in two different places? I am confused.
is that the triceps
>>8030238more like GAYcep
>>8030236damn
>>8030242oh so it's the bicep thanks
>>8030277cute. probably need to tonedown these greens but not sure
Trying to get myself out of a rut, what do you think?
>>8030033perspective soundly defeats me every time I attempt it
what we drawing today? some insects?. anyone willing to get free drawings (thread challenge)?
>>8030317bruh. i only draw women...
>>8030317nvm, i will pull out some bugs from internet
almost done
>>8030125I used to hate on monkey-fag and I'd seethe at the schizos and rage against the people who trained wrong or didn't value my advice. It's not worth it, man. It's poison to your craft even if you still draw and it kept me from drawing. Fill yourself with inspiration and focus on helping the people on the same wavelength as you. Next time someone pisses you off write it out and before you hit that post ask if writing it made you happy and if pressing that post button will improve your art. The answer is always no for me and I let it go and delete the post. The times I'm weak and I don't, I always regret it.
>>8030332Some schizos left and /beg/ got slightly better.Sadly new ones came.
>>8030317The tip of this man's nose is itself nose-shaped, giving the impression that is nose has its own nose.
is this >>8030335 the "everything is AI" schizo? i remember someone posting an image similar to this one
>>8030332pyw
>>8030338It is the same artist, but I don't know if anon was correct
I CANT FUCKING DRAW FACES.YOU FUCKERS LIED TO ME. LOOMIS ISNT HELPING.
>>80303144.5 hours until I have to go to work...
>>8030125not the made up clique again
>>8030340oooh i see. when i saw the picrel of that post i though "so thats the level of the anon that has been criticizing my drawings"...
ALL MY FACES ARE FUCKING SHIT.I HAVE NO APPEAL.I HAVE NO FUCKING SENSE OF 3D.MY WORK IS FUCKING DIOGSHIT TRASH
I CANT PUT THE FEATURES ON THE FUCKING FACE.EVERYTHING FEEELS LIKE I AM PUTTING SHIT ON FUCKING BLIND. I AM FUCKING PERMABEG AND FUCKING RETARDED PERMABEG FUCKING TRASH.WHY CANT I FUCKING DRAW GOOD FACES
>>8030342Symbol
>>8030125>>8030128Leave then. Bye.
>>8030338Yes, it's the sharty jeet shitposter
>>8030363And he is ruining this thread too
>>8030364but hes drawing
This is what I got anons. Took the whole day. Colored pencils. Bless me or check me.
>>8029634 continued from yesterdays wip, i am now painting it out. I need to start pulling a tonne of references in for the actual details, hands, trees, etc to start painting them out. I WILL ESCAPE BEG RAHH>>8030310I think its a great sketch and i like the vibe. I think theres a little bit of a mismatch between the head and body perspective/tilt, but i dont think its a big deal either.>>8030277kino>>8030047I finally sat down and learned how to draw boxes last week it was fucking awful. I did a different method to drawabox though lol. Looks good anon, keep it up. To be honest im still not great at it.>>8030374SOVL.
>>8030366this kills the thread shitters
>>8030375Thank you. This might be my favorite thing I've ever drawn.
>>8030374I want this on my wall....
>>8030388Really?? That makes me happy as hell to hear. I could probably ship you one. If you have Instagram my art page is bibicaloctopus.
>>8030317cutoff images are bad training. especially roiders are not natural, i'd tather try athletes or martial artists. heres something fun for the noncoomers. you get an angled pose, expression, folds. something worthy of challenge.
>>8030391and some extra for the artistically challenged (lol)
>>8030391
>>8030393
>Practice for the entire day>Forget everything by tomorrowHow do I break this cycle?
I'm finally free. started this challenge on june 1st so ig it took me exactly the whole summer>>8030006>>8030167cool OP and cool thread challenge. like your take, waiting where it'll go
>>8030410redo practice from memory right after and then tomorrow again to strenghten the new nerve strand formed. its almost magical how that works, you can literally form your brain however you want. humans are peculiar.
>>8030410If you figure it out, let me know. Trying to learn art feels like trying to scoop the ocean into a bucket using a teaspoon, and the bucket has a hole in it
>>8030423did it help
Using only a basic round brush really lets you see where you’re lacking knowledge
>>8030441what happens when you using triangle brush
>>8030442The devil knocks on your door
>>8030317Pagey..
>>8030342giving up on this one
>>8030441yeah...
>>8030474Why not finish what you were trying to do with it?
>>8030488seems like it would be a better use of time to try another figure in perspective than to continue trying to make this one work
New kino just dropped.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpjXCP3KGNM
>>8030509what will change when you start a new one?
What do I have to do to escape beg hell?
The Effort is Fruitless.
The effort is fruitful.
cause i'm a beg
>>8030532begs are cool, you are just a noise generator
Drew trad after a long pause and its so much more relaxing and fun than digital. My skill level seems to get buffed too.
>>8030541Pyw
>>8030535i'm just a weirdo
I’m sorry my art is shit I will stop drawing.
>>8030586Another one bites the dust
>>8030608nice
I'm not sorry that my art is shit. I'm committed to posting even more
>>8030010
>>8030611most gmi post to date
>>8030541That is why manga is based, we can go fully trad. But chances are better with webtoons and stuff, and I find it hard to make the vertical strips trad. Trad is also more fun.
>>8030616Sadly a wasted post.
>>8030618gmi, soul, uoh, unf, sexo, etc
Every day that passes, the urge to turn to the dark side (drawing porn) gets stronger
>>8030618>>8030612>>8030608>>8030516mogs me>>8030655what's stopping you?
>>8030655Honestly after starting on >>8030225 I feel like the gooner artists have a point. It's a huge motivation boost staring at a nice ass for hours on end. I don't think I could have tolerated spending the same amount of time drawing rocks and cylinders.
:(
I'm sad about the world and myself >>8030683I draw porn exactly because I have a hard time getting myself to draw anything else
>>8030608no bulge?
>>8030690>hard time ehehe
>>8030689He's sad cuz he has too much face and not enough back of the head. Luckily, that's an easy enough fix.
>>8030703you gave him gay alien headshape
>>8030690lost all the appeal of the sketch
>>8030714Are you going to back up that statement?
>>8030644Rude...
>>8030725Extremely cute!!
>>8030715are you fucking blind?
Gonna do this little bald freak's 6 week course. Probably not perfect but it's better than nothing.
>>8030747gmi just don't copy his balloon delts for women
>>8030752I kinda already like to draw big round deltoids...
>>8030755pyw
i recently hit my 3rd year with art and it feels like my motivation was sucked out of me, im so far behibd everyone else and im nearly 30, whats the point?
>>8030780Uh the point is to not be a sad sack of shit that wasted 3 years cause he’s a sad sack of shit. Just keep drawing fag.
>>8030122this is a very nicely drawn gay boy good job anon
Back to work on these two>>8030747gmi attitude. Take what works for you and work on what you think the course lacks. Iirc Brunet mostly does/teaches character studies if that's what you're after.
>>8030429ephemerally
Fully aware the anatomy is dogshit(what are those legs), gotta get back on grinding before even thinking of more "complex" stuff like this. Dunno about composition, maybe I should have the face more of a focus point? Any suggestions are more than welcome.
wipperino
>>8030809GYAAAAA DAAAYUM RAX
>>8030809nice tits, tragic hand
>>8030809Fuark that's noice.
Fountain pen doodle.
>>8030802I think you could crop it more. Along the borders, there doesn't seem to bee anything too interesting, so you don't lose much by cutting it.
I do not want to find a job, but I do not want to draw porn. Aaaaaah!! The only way is to be a GMI with comics, but it is a giant gamble that 99% fail... Fuck, I will have to go back to coding? AI ruined the profession. Why is there so little paths for making a living from art outside of porn?
>>8030830associating art with financial stress is a bad ideajust get a chill job and draw
>>8030829I see, it does help a bit I think. Will get to fixing it then.Thanks!
I cant draw faces plz help.
I'm practicing with a video an anon linked in the previous thread:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAlCyQqEZSUHow are my circles looking? I am using a tablet without a screen, and honestly this tablet holder kind of sucks dick.Another question, how the fuck do people draw rocks, water, and shit? It doesn't make sense. It's not my focus, I just want to draw cute girls in perspective, but god damn is it discouraging to know I can't do anything and won't for several years
So the secret is reference? I kneel, ref gods.
>>8030860>the secret is reference?Unironically yes. Artists throughout the ages have been known to use friends and family (and even themselves) as models.
>>8030860yes, make your own refs
>>8030860is this gay???
>>8030655don't get groomed by the coomers
>>8030860Kim Jung Ji told his students that they should use reference, and that imaginative drawing is optional.Speaking from experience imagination drawing is good for things like forcing memory recall when trying to learn muscles, but to draw the entire body at every angle is something even he found frustrating, and was mastered because he literally drew 15 hours a day everyday throughout his entire life.
august is overit wasn't as productive as july, sadlylet's see how it goes next month
>>8030797Needs more rendering but I'm calling it here.>>8030823Pretty good anon
Currently, I'm facing my fears. Struggling and shedding tears. Drowning in despair(I need to find better ways to construct hands, time to see which of my dozens of art books will help. That said, fingers are fucked up).
>>8030895Looking forward to the snek.
>>8030898niceweichun has some nice hands to copy
>>8030860The quality of my shitty anime faces increase 100x when copying someone else’s. There might be something to the reference/copy advice
I don't see enough *beginner* beginner arts, so here's my baby steps.
>>8030910moe faris nyannyan
>>8030006I got my first commission in artistree a few weeks ago and I am almost finished. I really like how it turned out. I need to learn and practice more but in general I like it.
>>8030917I have no idea what's going on but it looks coolthe composition is kinda unbalanced with the hero figure off center
>>8030918Yeah I had other plans regarding composition. But the client is always right I guess. I had to struggle a lot with the amount of things he wanted but hey. I think it looks cool too.
>>8030917Cool shitHere is my payment of a (You) to motivate.
>>8030922Thanks my man! I have come a long way lol
>>8030927Thanks man. I have gotten increasingly possitive comments in /ic/ and this stuff really motivates me. I haven't had a very good time mentally so this stuff really means a lot.
This month, doodles J and N are my favorites. I had fun with them, and 80% of them are from my imagination, so I feel good about my progress. I think I need to draw more translucent stuff.>>8030823huh, a fountain pen? nice doodle>>8030802It’s interesting, I like it. The way the figure gets sandwiched between the bottles and the lamps can work. Don’t overdo it. Keep going!>>8030317awful ref, but if i drew the last one I have to draw this one too...>>8030874these ones are really good, great job.>>8030886Nice idea. Maybe for next month, draw more objects and push the facial expressions. Great job, you’re very proficient.>>8030917congrats, but really hard to read.
>>8030929Yeah I think that too but it was mainly because that was what the client wanted. I still haven't finished it so could you give me some feedback on how to make it more readable? I can subdue a lot of stuff still. I dont think I can change the layout but maybe shift the values a bit.
>>8030910draw the rest or ten of them>>8030917while elements are cool - top head looks like pasted from another pic, and too much grass
>>8030932In terms of rendering, or maybe the atmospheric color could bleed from the environment. The original pic had a green background. The idea of it having a night background was at the end of the process.
this what I mean by too much grass
>>8030937Got it. Yes you're right. I'm gonna redimension it and tame some stuff. This is a constant problem for me as I get into rendering too much and don't worry enough about the overall composition.
PLEASE TEACH ME HOW TO DRAW ANIMAY FACES
>>8030944pyw
I would try to unify everything with a single, complex dark shadow. That’s what Frazetta usually did: a harsh contrast, with the black helping create a path through the whole illustration. There are many shape “leaks” that help as entry points for the eye.Something you could try is thresholding the whole image until it looks readable in pure black and white. Then use that mask and play around with filters and layer modes. I did this with this mask and set it to Burn mode. https://files.catbox.moe/03x43a.jpgI think this is a little easier and more interesting to read. I kinda like that only the top shapes of the dudes behind the space hamster are visible.
>>8030939>Yes you're right.maybe I'm not, I don't know, but it just was first impression. it separated in 3 parts - floating head, group of dudes and blue pine
I disassembled my desktop/tablet setup because I'm repainting the walls of my place, so I'll have to go back to paper and pencil for a few days... something I haven't done in a really long time.
>>8030852Can I get some feedback?
>>8030955where is the picture you made?
>>8030957circles and my rocks. are there.are they not enough to be evaluated?
>>8030953Rotate your pics so I dont have to strain my neck but it looks very fuckable
>>8030955looks shy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TqNldrAbIcdo this and apply it.
>>8030961Can't see rocks, but is there any love or design in these circles? It doesn't work as abstraction, and you didn't draw anything.>>8030965lmao. thegirl is great
>>8030953I love you frenchie. Please draw bigger udders.
>>8030965I'm too tech illiterate If it still doesn't work, whatever
Started doing some digital this month. Mostly just to fuck around or make images to shitpost with, but on my most recent painting (bottom-right) I actually tried to make something kinda nice. Coloring and shading skin is some shit, but I think I did OK.>>8030809>>8030883>>8030970sexo>>8030910Greetings fellow turbobeg.>>8030917Looks like it could be the cover of some sci-fantasy RPG. Like a Might & Magic or something. Really cool.
>>8030974Also here is my latest thing on its own since I hadn't posted the finished thing yet. Coloring hair is a demonic task and I think I hate it.
>>8030976the pepper splotch on the back annoys me in both iterations, but the rest looks good.
>>8030172Hot
>>8030974You could join the Attack on Titan production team
>>8030980Thanks anon. I assume you mean the black bit of spraycan brush on the underside of the left lat? Or do you mean all of spraycan dithering?>>8030993kek thanks
>>8030995>black bit of spraycan brush on the underside of the left latyes
I sure hope the patriarchy doesn’t try locking up Lindsay Clancy just for being depressed first they take away women’s dignity then they take away our very right to be women stand together girls
Wasted an hour on this instead of doing something productive. Its paintings fault; I decide to shade in a little section BAM. -30 mins. Its pathetic. I'm never reaching int if I continue like this...>>8030976mogs me>>8030823really nice, but snake doesn't have a beard>>8030970Switching mediums hasn't diminished your spark one bit
>>8030886
How the fuck do I shade this all sexy in Krita? Shading is so fucking hard for me and I don't know what the best tools are to use. Can someone break it down into >steps?
>>8031016it depends on how you want it to look like
>>8031017something like this
whats a good workflow for painting backgrounds? do you guys start with a sketch or just jump in painting shapes and shit?
>>8031018>stepsgo over your lineart to add darkest darksuse soft airbrush with a bit of selection to establish some form and colormake another pass of darker values with harder brushadd highlightsprofit
>>8031023do I need to use a 'multiply'?
>>8031016I need more friends to draw Pals with. :(
>>8031024You could for something like this big cast shadow but not need
>>8031025post em' fren
>>8031020same as with everthingfrom big to smallfrom simple to complexif you want to use lines, go for itif you want to use shapes, go for it
>>8031027I'm working on one right now. I'll post it when I have more meat on the bone.
>>8031020Establish your perspective.Place some objects according to purpose and composition.Decide lighting .Define the details.
Grinding ears. Shits ball twistingly hard for me.
>>8030047doesn't seem like fun, draw something you like>>8030063bad idea, all you need to know for boxes is converging line placement, rotation and ratios, don't be a study monkey and have fun>>8030342veri nice>>8030917sick>>8030823sovl
obligatory ass
>>8031063it's easy to talk about fun and just drawing whatever (to crab) when you're int. you've climbed the ladder and are pulling it behind yourself
>>8031065
>>8030834looks nice. Pose is complete shit though, you should change the arm positioning a bit.
>>8030895Why ty.>>8030929Yes Snake, a fountain pen. I bought a fude pen and am now a fude dude.>>8031004True, more of a neckbeard>>8031063High praise
>>8031069now THIS is kino
>>8031049It’s such an asymmetric shape though that you can kinda get away with just fudging it and people will go “yeah that’s fine I guess”. Just get the orientation of the main outer form correct and the details can be whatever
>>8031092Maybe he is an ear fetishist. You shouldn't tell people not to learn what they want to learn.
its been like 2 hours and but i think i finally installed my tablet correctly, time to test this bad boy out.
>>8031094It’s not about telling people what to learn. If he wants to fill notebooks with ears then go for it. It’s just about setting standards and expectations appropriately. I find that can be helpful but ymmv
oh no no now krita is not booting up im 3 seconds away from minecrafting m yself
>>8031150a e s t h e t i c
>>8031065>>8031018sexo
I want to draw OC characters but as a /beg/ I often find that I have no idea what I am doing or a concrete conceptualization of what I even want to do. I think I should just focus on making fanart of existing characters to improve my skills and imagination.Thank you for reading this blogpost.
>>8031170Yeah you definitely want to use existing designs while you’re still learning the mechanics of drawing, just to get yourself started
>>8031170improving your technical skill won't improve your creativity
>>8031066there is time to study but don't make it your whole routine, having fun is most important because if you lack passion your art will suffer. No one likes drawing cubes hundreds of times so what's something you can do along side that, that is also enjoyable? Drawing cars, buildings mechs, backgrounds. Once you understand the fundamentals of perspective it isn't that hard, all you really need is your midpoint, station point, horizon line, cone of vision, vanishing point, diverging and converging lines and even these can further be broken down into easy to use methods like ratios and predicting angles. It's good to study principles like these but you should try making something out of it too. If you make your time drawing only full of rigorous exercises and mechanical thought, it's going to lack substance. Even if you're not good at drawing I would argue that following a specific passion for subject matter is the best route to go down. Create consistency with drawing rather than just giving up from the boring reality of drawing cubes for 3 hours a day.>you've climbed the ladder and are pulling it behind yourself I'm not trying to shit on people, this is my genuine advice. Do your studies but also make time for art you enjoy on an equal or greater measure. The more pieces you make the more corrections you can make with your work, the more you improve. If you don't produce pieces you're really in a rut, no great artist is a study monkey. And above all don't make art miserable. >>8031069bravo anon. Great pose, might rip it off >>8031116magma.com, thank me later
>>8031177Eh. Being able to more quickly and accurately express yourself leads to faster iteration loops with improved feedback, so by just being able to test and implement more ideas, it could improve your creativity indirectly
>>8031170https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Pn7-VYTYUo
>>8030974That's what it was intended for! Thanks man the positive comments have been great.
>>8030946>>8030947Thanks anons. I'm gonna do the frazzeta stuff. The rest of the objects are too distracting and i'm gonna tame some stuff in order to improve readibility .Thanks!
>>8030864Kek
>>8031065>>8031178GAINS GOBLIN????
>>8031188This nigga is telling me to just trace and get better.
should I be using reference as a shitter or no
>>8031244>>8030860
>>8031246i have to say its a bit dull having to rely on references to make a good drawing
>>8030883>optionalI AM FREEEEEEEE>>8030323>>8030423morphoGOD
>>8031009Is this on a scale of how Jewish his images are? What's with the blue stars?
>>8031249https://youtu.be/tuUU_CxbpVk?t=223
>>8030883Easy for him to say
>>8031221Wait, Wasn't this >>7988109 Gains Goblin?
>>8030970you always draw the same thing, same character, same outfit, same or similar pose, same blank expression. i guess no need to change the formula when it works on gullible audience, huh
>>8031150the way she looks at the anomaly indifferently is how i look at it
AAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGHHHAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>8031239nigger
>>8031283i say this
>>8030172i would have followed you if reverse search led anywhere anon, every second your art isn't out there is a wasted opportunity, even if you haven't even started work on the game nobody will care they will follow anyway.
>>8031279maybe you should show the boys and post your work, huh
>>8031296Beautiful
wiper
it's all smut
>>8031296i really like the composition :))) wtf is going on with this captcha bullshit lol it's been a while since i last posted here
i smuted
>>8031296kino imageI'm not sure if the forshortening of the arms / sword really works with the rest of the perspective, right now it's partly hidden by the messiness
how do i draw bulkier bodies for muscle?
>>8031299>>8031304>>8031307thanks guys>I'm not sure if the forshortening of the arms / sword really works with the rest of the perspective, right now it's partly hidden by the messinessyeah I noticed but im not sure if I'm going to refine this anymore
I used to hate the clique, now I miss them
>>8031317Why? externals killed the site. I don't miss them at all, pure fucking cancer. There is no recovering from the damage discord, the russian forum and /dad/ did to the site. Far fucking gone
Wow Marc Brunet's course is really good, everyone should buy it
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>>8031324is drawing over-rated?
>>8031327Lit>icProvemewrong.pdf pro tip you cant
>>8031319>no mention of AIYeah, this is the shartyfag alright.
>>8031314I think it'd be difficult to make the foreshortening work in this case. However I do think this could totally work without it. It's a super nice composition, anon. I think you should keep working on it.
Holy shit, it really is the shartyfagFucking called it KEK!
>AI torso.lmao
>>8031342You're fucking gay. That's not everyone's problem.
>>8031342you contribute nothing besides vile vomit
>my sitedid you pay for it
does this work?
Ok but why the misogyny
>>8031362ok so abs are fineneeds cleaningright deltoid should or shouldnt be connected?
I love ny oc, desu.
>>8031018I don't know what that is but it sure as shit isn't an armpit.
>>8031368armpussy
>>8031324oops, thats meI just lack confidence in my ideas and to actually see them through...
>>8031384like your pictures a lot
>>8031387thank you
>>8031384Very pretty
>>8031395thank you
colleague saw my drawing at work and said it looked nice(I used a reference)
>>8031419gmi
>>8031419>i used a referenceboo hoo, that's cheating, a bet your colleague would be ashamed of you
>>8031419Post the drawing
>>8031384don't flatter yourself, they're not your ideas
>>8031423?
>>8031434That's just how it is in the beginning
>>8031440figure is too wobbly and black for me. stuff should be decoration of a characterdon't be such a pussy, no one cares
>>8031435People don't have ideas, anon....[spoiler]Ideas have people.[/spolier]
>>8031457The kind of bullshit Steve Jobs would spout
>>8031454Rookie numbers. A year and a half may have passed, but how much of that time was really spent learning to draw?
>>8031457really grasping at straws with it
>>8030725mess
>>8031469nice and cute
>>8031350tried to make another buffer onewhat do you think?
>>8031480for crying out loud
>>8031317if i have time to draw more in the winter ill return to ruin the thread again don't worry darling
>>8030802Cleaned up the background and cropped it. Still fairly messy especially on the armchair part/ bottles being literal copy paste. Maybe will get around to fixing up the character pose tomorrow.
h-help
>>8031481id say it's an improvement but i cant fucking get the torso bend right
>>8030006Today’s life drawings
>>8031502
>>8031503
>>8031512Damn that’s pretty nice
Still don't really know how to draw hair. Advice would be appreciated.
>>8031506Went ahead and finished this one
>>8031514Thanks
>>8031482holy chicken scratching dude thats overkill
I have no fucking clue what I'm doing when I shade. No idea what tools I'm supposed to be using or not using.
>>8031552Also, I use Krita. I really want to shade like>>8031018but retards who never opened a drawing application in their life started giving me advice and it did not look anything similar
>>8031552doing material studies like pic related can help, as it isolates the treatment of the different light factors, then you can apply the material in your own drawingsyou don't need fancy layer modes or brushes, a hard brush and a soft brush is enough
>>8031568thank you for the advice, I'll take it to heart and try doing some spheres to study
>>8031568i should do some spheres
I stare at the Y I have drawn and I try to visualize the cube it will become. I see it in my mind's eye as plain as day, each face, and their facing angle, too. Yet not their vertices, which lay upon the blurred periphery of my imagination. I search for them and find them, and I see the angles by which I must draw the lines from my Y to them in order to form the cube rightly. And yet, I no longer behold within my mind the faces of the cube I had but moments ago seen so clearly. As my focus travels from the faces to the vertices, the form shifts and wavers, undetectably so, for it gives only in the places which slip, in their own diminutive slice of time, out from under my attention, so that when I behold the whole, it seems to be the revealed shape of that thing I had a second ago only glimpsed. But upon putting pen to paper, it becomes evident: that alien thing which had come to reside within my mind hasn't the scantest correlation to the mangled configuration of stray lines now littering the page.
I CANT FUCKING DRAW. FUCKING TALENTED FUCKS WONT HELP ME.
>>8031595I saw you mentioned you posted your drawing a while ago but I couldn't find it. Could you post what you want help with again?
>>8031598>>8027004Nobody helped me and only laughed at me.
>>8030342drawing is painful but I am a masochist
I was having fun testing out a few krita brushes.There was something fun about not working with lines and just going at it with minimal planning, even if planning would've made this a better drawing.
>>8031605Yo the face change is dope af, I believe in a good ending with this one
>>8030932>draw the restThat's a tall ask kek, considering I know jackshit about how the rest (or the face for that matter) works.But here's my best attempt at copying a ref to put a bit more out.
>>8031603Most of the times, adding some big hair on top makes the face look way more cuter. Also just by moving the nose and mouth a little bit, can change everything. You already have the rendering and the lineart, you just need to calibrate the small details. You're almost there.
>>8031610thank you. this expression seemed like it was more in character. I'm still working on some other ideas for pictures but until I figure those ones out more I will work on this one
>>8030809nice tits
consciously trying to draw something that appeals to people makes me feel like an alien fucking christ. love drawing teto though
>>8031620TALENTED FUCKING RAT
>>8031620rounding the chin and letting the hair cover the far side of the forehead would make it more appealing to me but you do you>>8031621pest
>>8031603Shut up no one laughed at you
>>8031568How is this for a start?
>>8031603Alright so the main thing I think has to be understood about faces is that any subtle change can completely change the way you read everything as a whole, so you have to be extremely patient and keep coming back to it as you work on other elements.Secondly, I think that familiarizing yourself with the surface of (most) faces will help a lot. Just grab something like the image I put in the middle, literally just google something like "planes of the face" or something similar, and draw it the way you see it. Do that until you feel confident, then try drawing it from a different angle from the one you're seeing. You don't have to memorize a single schema with 100% accuracy since faces will vary from person to person, but having an idea of when and where bumps happen will help a lot in achieving a 3D look, especially for young female heads since they tend to be very smooth. If you're ever in doubt on whether or not the face you're drawing makes sense in three dimensions, try drawing a line through its surface like the example on the right. Just keep in mind that you need to practice first before you can confidently do this.Lastly, I'd say find out whether you want to lean more into 2D or 3D. I say this because a lot of artists draw very angular and sharp faces and they still manage to look good, and I believe that is a slightly different skill than being able to perceive and position facial features in three dimensions, so you'd need to practice it separately. I could be wrong though since I haven't really tried, so just focus on steps one and two.Also you picked a pretty difficult angle, I won't lie.
>>8031636you didn't make it look right either.
>>8031638I can only do my best
>>8031568>>8031624
>>8031640cutewhos that character
I've barely drawn over the past couple weeks. I feel like it's finally sank in that I'm the autistic permabeg I used to think I'd never be years ago, and it's sort of killed my will to continue.I've become particularly resentful towards drawing because music used to be my thing. I was able to pick out songs by ear in a snap and jam along to anything. It was THE thing I was truly talented in. But I've spent so much time drawing and studying art, I wish I could just undo all those hours and put them into my music instead. Then I'd have something to truly show for it. Instead all I have are piles of mediocre porn drawings no one will ever give a shit about or remember. That resentment has built up to a point where I'm seriously considering burning my sketchbooks and selling my tablet, and going back to music 24/7. Obviously, I'm still hesitant to commit to quitting, partially because sunk cost and partially because there are times I have had fun drawing. And I do think I'd regret it in the longterm if I quit. Idk, my mental health is generally in the shitter and I go through these phases. So idk if any of these thoughts are real or if it's just my depression talking again.
>>8031645>>8031650Don’t trust any major thoughts about your life past like 9 pm
>>8031652Good call. It's almost midnight here and it's been a long day - probably contributing a lot to my negative self-talk.
>>8031603have you ever tried to "sketch", stop using those hard black and stiff as a ngga pp lines and start using some actual "i will search for it" lines. and just dont wait for lines to land on the right spot every time you draw, thats just nonsense...
>>8031636>like "planes of the face"asaro head, btw. "https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/asaro-head-9d26548182f8465a8e97371a9170561e"
>>8031636TalentGOD. IS IT POSSIBLE TO LEARN THIS WITHOUT TALENT?>>8031638pyw HEATHEN
>>8031004I like this lip rendering more than your usual 3 lines>>8031301Cool texture. I'm not really the target audience for this lesbian style, but I think it could sell in trad with a better mixed media technique.>>8031366cool>>8031491The anatomy beside the neck looks okay as it is. The problem for me is the gesture and the weight of the character. Make her feel more grounded, like she has just tumbled onto the couch. Keep going!>>8031527I’m terrible at hair, but I love Kaoru Mori’s style. I think she’s one of the best at hair and drapery, so you could study her work.>>8031624Good! Keep going, experiment, and learn from each painting.
TALENTED FUCKING RATS.
>even with tracing I can't understand how people make such good lines and breaking down the shapes to simple mannersIt's talent and genes.
>>8031603Start by positioning the glabella after drawing the sphere it will be easier to find the geometry of the nose and eye socketsplease trust me bro
God it saps all my will to draw when I see better artists. Why do I even bother. I'll never make anything of value.
Fucking around with some new brushes and did some construction practice. I don't think I'll ever get the hang of it. I honestly think I got some more results from doing quick little figs, even if they were terrible. I've set an arbitrary goal of "get good" but can I ever actually reach it? I've looked back to things I did a few months ago and while I can see I've improved, its not enough for me to see any noticeable quality difference. Is there some sort of enlightenment gained from grinding and grinding, a sudden epiphany, or do I just wallow in mediocrity? What the hell am I even drawing for? I don't really have any desire to go commercial, no stories that I need to tell the world, nothing I really have to express, no obsession to get out on canvas. Everything I'm drawing now is the same tired old shit; all I need to see how I'd draw in the future is just go on twitter and look at countless other artists producing the same soulless semirealistic slop.>>8031684Thanks>>8031706Value is subjective
>>8031706Talented FUCK>>8031703>>8031708
an hour well spent learning nothing at all.
I CANT STOP MAKING MY FACES LOOK FUCKING FUCKING FLAT FUCKING FLAT.THEY ARE FUCKING FLAT FACES. I DONT GET 3D.THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH MY FUCKING BRAIN.
>>8031712source of the ref?
I CANT FUCKING DRAW EBCAUSE I AM TALENTLESS FUCKING GARBAGE
You're not grinding hard enough. You need to start taking things seriously if you want to improve.
I CANT FUCKING MEASURE.I CANT FUCKING SEE.I AM FUCKING BLIND. THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH MY FUCKING EYES,. I CANT FUCKING EVEN FUCKING COPY SHIT.
>>8031722is this yours
>>8031722TALENTED FUCKS CAN DO SHIT EASILY BECAUSE THEY ARE FUCKING TALENTED.HOW DO YOU EXPECT SOMEONE TO LEARN HOW TO SWIM IF THEY CANT FUCKING FLOAT?IF YOUA RE SHIT AND CANT EVEN COPY. IF YOUA RE FUCKING SHIT AND CANT EVEN DRAW A FUCKING STRAIGHT LINE THEN YO WONT FUCKING IMPROVE.ONLY THE TALENTED GET TO IMPROVE BECAUSE THEY CAN FUCKING LEARN.I FUCKING CANT. FUCK YOU>>8031726It is from this fucking humblebragging fuck who just goes on and on about "easy 5 min warmup" and it is a whole ass linearted figure. Fucking talented humblebragging fuckhttps://x.com/mk8h_art/status/2094972130534588845
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGOD PUNISHED ME WITH PERMABEGNESS
>bathdiver got wiped instead of schizospamercan't do anything right
>>8031650music is dead there's literally no way to get an audience without connections at least with art you might get lucky in the algorithm
>>8028695>>8031018these anons, they know something we dont. now i know the theory behind this, what i dont have is an example, not by a youtuber but by an anon who does have a good pictoric skill, i need a video or a timelapse of you working out these two examples you post, i can reverse engineer it myself...
>>8031765The first link is prompted, and anon is incompetent. The bottom part of your image is somewhat related/important to image making in general, but it’s mostly tailored for copy.
Anatomy is fucked but idk if its due to me or because we referenced goonslop during a group study sesh. But i also decided to color it and mostly wanted to ask about the Color/Rendering is that atleast alright? anything i should do/avoid?
lets draw a lot and study today
>>8031770OH HEEEELL NAA
>>8031769the colors are pretty, but I would expect the same level of separation everywhere as on the far boob and the chest.
>>8031768so, any other advice? the anon from the first link sent us an image that has something intriguing about it: transitions. how are transitions done? i usually use an airbrush, but in the videos i've seen, they don't use it much. besides, i find it really hard to achieve a similar result (applying the theory), and i was curious about the process. or do we just paint like we're banging rocks with our heads until something starts to work?
>>8030006tracing is actually fun to do but i do need to learn how to draft a bodyany recomended book cheatsheet or pamphlet for ABSOLUTE beginners on how to draw stick figures and simple bodies?same for simple colros
>>8031787forgot pic
>>8031770decided to push it a bit furtherthink im gonna do some timed figure drawings now
i havent given up just yet>>8031788you forgot the cock
>>8031802cute blush
>>8031809There’s something really wrong about that figure but idk what.In addition to missing his neck, he might be missing part of his torso? Definitely some sort of problem where the legs meet the torso, in addition to the legs just being stiff in general
>>8031810you're cute
>>8031435You reference other artists' ideas
>>8031684Thank you so much, I can't believe how much I messed up the neck / didn't see that. And the couch is a great idea
>>8031847combining refs is all fair when creating your own artsometimes I use a single ref as study, but I don't post it anywhere except here
>>8031605looks cool
>>8031858I guess I should accept that art isn't fair and everyone works differently and honest work is a choice
>>8031872lol
Falke II
>>8031876dope
>>8031876nice designtry using a dark bg color for the next one, it could help with the lack of contrast
bad advice
great suggestion
>>8031814Nigga shut up
>>8031775>>8031769It's less pretty but this is kind of what I mean
>>8031889thank you so much, I always struggle with anything thats not the big shadow shape/areasalso I actually prefer your version more, the harder shadow edges make it look more 3d
>>8031884What? Is this not a thread for critique?
been drawing for 2 months and still god awful
Hands are bullshit.
>>8031919yes, but when done well it almost cheatcode
>>8031907hes a bit sensitive to vague crit
>>8031913Nigga no one gets good in ANYTHING in 2 months
