How do you improve your observation ability?
Don't be a fat retarded american mutt or other shitskin. They obviously can't see right.
>>8061777>question so vague it can only be answered through riddles and mystical allegories >anime girl picjust draw (what you see)
>>8061777listening to feedback, honest feedback
>>8061777Try an optometrist.
>>8061783observation like developing your eye and measuring more efficiently >>8061786from where? and what sort of feedback? like if an arm is too wide, then sure I can fix that but what happens when i move on to the next drawing? do i just pay attention harder to the arms?
>>8061793and i failed to correctly observe the size of the arm just now. how ironic
>>8061777Eat many yummye carrots...yeahe
>>8061793you will remember if you care enough, that's how i learnt, from someone telling me shit was blurry, to an arm, the light, etc etc
post a drawing OP, i will give you honest feedback, don't underestimate your brain, you will remember
>>8061777Are you retarded? Genuinely??
>>8061820ya
not OP but i do struggle with copying angles the most i think
>>8061824with that reference yeah no shit, pick better stuff to copy
>>8061777Break things down to simple shapes in your head/draw things as a collection of simple shapes. Do this overlayed over some reference image if you want to get the hang of it.
>>8061831what's the better stuff
>>8061837for one, not a drawing that isn't finished or doesn't have any discernible shapes, real life photos for example
>>8061777trace
>>8061839noted
>>8061777By doing observational drawing. This isn't complicated.
>>8061874Thats what im doing, but how do you keep getting better at it?
>>8061875>>8061777Do the DRSB exercises (flip your ref upside down, focus on the negative space only, etc). What's really helped me is a combination of the "cognitive method" (active recall) and meaningful tracing, while increasing my overall time looking at the reference while I draw.You can also start with large shapes first.For life drawing, feel the subject with your hands for several minutes before you draw. For photos, you may also use grids to nail down the proportions more accurately.
>>8061969whats the cognitive method (active recall)?
Life drawing and copies. Thats it.
>>8061977You take your reference and look at it for thirty seconds. Then you hide the reference and do your best to draw the reference from memory. After that, take out the reference and then do another drawing except this time you actually look at the reference as you draw. Finally, hide the reference one last time and draw from memory again. Take out all of your drawings and compare your results.Jason Brubaker's book is pretty good but I disagree with him saying that you shouldn't engage in tracing during the process. I've found that tracing over the ref and breaking it down into simple shapes helps with more accurate memory drawings.
>>8061875You do it a lot and you just get better. It just works.
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>>8061777Practice lineart and shapes of value, study other artists exercises and finished work looking for these elements. >What else besides artists works?Anything, a photo or a real life object near you. Could be a mug or some Sakura figurine. Draw what you consider to be the outer edge and work your way in when the silhouette has been enclosed (be mindful of where you are observing from, if you change your posture or move too much it will make things harder for you, this is less of any issue with photos). You'll notice that you tend to make some lines or shapes bigger, or that you favor a specific area when observing, making uneven proportions, or that you have a wobbly line, or that your brain shuts down when there's too much information and you just decide to half ass it. All of these patterns can be spotted, isolated and practiced in each study. You can pick up Keys to Drawing and do a bunch of the exercises in it and that will be enough to get you moving in the right direction.The short answer is be nitpicky and ask questions about what seems off and try to attempt a slightly better attempt, in your exercises, you can't adapt without actually seeing yourself making mistakes and noticing your own habits.
>>8062013He's just making you practice your observational skills
>>8061777Why? As someone with high observation skills that doesn't really help creativity-wise
>>8062148because i am someone with low observation skills and I make a lot of mistakes during my studies
>>8061777Look closely how a thing is built, the details, the material, is it soft? is it hard? does it bend? if it can bend how would it bend? If a light reflected on it would it reflect or not? if that tall object is next to a mushy object can I recreate that or do I need to look at reference and learn it, you just need to think out of the box, think for yourself and not with tutorials.You can use Google, Yandex and get references or look at 3D models or better yet manipulate that object in person, or go outside too and see what you can find.Then try drawing it over and over again or you can cheat your way into tracing 3D models/objects but that's gay.
>>8062154Okay but understand accurate studies don't translate to good composition or interesting designs
>>8062388well part of learning is being able to accurately see what you're looking at yeah? I think it helps when doing things like figure drawing. I know stuff like composition and interesting designs require a different method/lense to learn
hold on is this another kozeki thread? your other thread is still up
>>8062441no it isn't it was killed to death while i was asleep
>>8062445no, i mean your OTHER thread >>8050604
>>8062450I dont draw like that
