Post your stuff. Get rated. Rate others.Put 3 works in a collage for a better ratingOld thread:>>8035500
>>8064232Pomni WIPIve been so busy very little time to draw.
>>8064258low /int/ good perspective
what level is this?
>>8064332Pro obviously
I wonder if it is the fact it says "monetizable" for pro on the chart that is making the ratings highRealistically you can definitely monetize most /int/ art so maybe it should be updated
>>8064335If the work is almost monetizable its trash. You cant work backward from pro, those people are retarded and should follow the fucking op.
>>8064332Lower end of mid beg. You are trying to hide your lack of knowledge behind shitty rendering and filters.
>>8064345Wait wait what are you sayingI am saying maybe it should be listed that like you can get comms at mid /int/, or slightly update what /pro/ saysThis chart is like a decade+ old at this point after all and online art has changed.
>>8064350Comms under 1000 dollars dont make you a professional, thats about the rate for 1 week of work in a first world country, somebody could easily argue that actual professionals being paid thousands for their work dont make it anywhere near adv, so no in now way does demented furries paying anon 300 dollars to draw their gay bottom faggot fursona make anon mid int if the eye test puts him at mid beg. The chart is not and should not be a reaction to the lowest common denominator of the freelance market kek
>>8064358Eh well that is why /pro/ needs to be given out less willy nilly and it needs an updateAlso I do not agree with you, you can be a professional and make a few hundred consistently for multiple things. Contracted art professionals exist whether that fits your standard or notI think even high /int/ can have a self run etsy store or do conventions. /pro/ feels for me like if you have work on the level someone would hire you for game art, product illustrations, you can draw in a way where your art would blend in with pro concept artists, etcThere needs to be a bigger bap between /int/ and /pro/, so /adv/ should prob have its own tier
>>8064332/pro/
>>8064232
>>8064387/adv/>>8064430High /int/
>>8064335That chart is dog shit and most of the people giving ratings in here are beginners without any sense for quality.
>>8064334>>8064317>>8064378>>8064432/beg/
>>8064448if your going to complain then the least you can do is leave a rating
>>8064450/pro/
>>8064453/beg/
>>8064334>>8064378>>8064332>Those hands>ProSuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrreeeeeee.
>>8064448The chart is not dog shit, but people are being too generousI am waiting for more pics, but leave your ratings. Be the change you want to see in the world
>>8064350I think /pro/ should be excluded, begs can make money, theres plently of people with low skill levels working in the industry/making money, and theres plently of highly skilled people not making money or only a little. I also think /adv/ description should be changed to something like "High skill level in all fundamentals, consistently creates interesting and appealing artwork" Not like it matters really though, no one in /ic/ is /adv/.>>8064387Lower end of mid beg, chicken scratch/unconfident.>>8064430Lower end of mid beg, stop tracing 3d models, its stunting you. Really unappealing faces and shitty hands.A note on hands, you can instantly tell someone's real skill level based off of how they draw hands. No amount of rendering or model tracing can hide it.
>>8064716I haven't traced a single thing in my 6 years of drawing so I'm curious what aspects of my art make you think it was traced, assuming this isn't bait and you're willing to give actual criticism and not just say my faces and hands are bad without explaining why.
>>8064740mid /int/
>>8064232these threads are fucking shit
>>8064767just hide the replies without images and it becomes goodthat's basically what you should be doing for /ic/ in general
https://i.4cdn.org/ic/1792155718744855.jpghttps://i.4cdn.org/ic/1791061522645535.jpghttps://i.4cdn.org/ic/1790000249727526.jpghttps://i.4cdn.org/ic/1790274388426344.jpg
>>8064785Overall at least low int, portraits at least high int
>>8064793>portraits at least high intyeah, i enjoy those the most. int is a big hurdle, it involves so much more concentrated and varied drawing to advance. beg is really peanuts grind wise. maybe i'll finally just get a proper tablet and cheat my way there with 'tools'
I've been doing digital art close to a year now, am I /pro/ yet?
No ai
>>8064716>no one in /ic/ is /adv/.Have you looked around..? When I see people say stuff like this I always get confused. We have had some big names come from here and the drawpile thread always has some crazy good art among other threads I at times see some godly anons posting.I was with you until it felt like you are blind
>>8064767lil bro's still seething from the last thread
>>8064785high /int/>>8064811mid /int/>>8064824high /beg/
>>8064740>Unappealing facesEyes too squished together, nose is too close to eyes leading to a pug like look. Kind of ugly looking facial expressions too. Flat looking compared to the body, its distracting. >Shitty handsStiff, do not flow well, generally uninteresting posing (same with bodies).>Tracing 3d modelsI can't put it into the right words right now, but art traced from models has a specific stiff and weirdly 3d look.The people rating you things like /int/ are begs (or /int/ who are trying to stunt you!)It's actually pretty frustrating seeing /int/ get thrown around so freely, it's going to cause a lot of people to stagnate.>>8064835All the people who become /adv/ leave ic or stop posting their work at least. Clearly you are a /beg/.
>>8064715>leave your ratings. Be the change you want to see in the worldI am.Look>>8064742>>8064864/beg/
>>8064958/pro/
>>8064740That angle is really hard. High /int/
>>8064332Just for that peace sign, its at least mid /int/. The rendering makes it /pro/
>>8064961/beg/
>>8064968>>8065026/beg/
>>8064258mid /beg/ with low /beg/ energy>>8064332high /beg/ with mid /int/ energy>>8064387mid /beg/ with high /beg/ energy>>8064430high /beg/ with low /int/ energy>>8064740high /beg/ with low /int/ energy>>8064785low /int/ with low /int/ energy>>8064811high /beg/ with high /beg/ energy>>8064824high /beg/ with low /beg/ energy
>>8064232I propose an alternative. /adv/ is too all-encompassing to be accurate and /pro/ is too much of a sidegrade to any technical skill level to even have a place on a tier list designed to go from low to high (why is it even at the bottom?)low, mid, high /beg/ (beginner)low, mid, high /int/ (intermediate)low, mid, high /adv/ (advanced) should have its own low to high tier structurelow, mid, high /exp/ (expert) this one might be too redundant though if advanced exists and serves similar purposelow, mid, high /mas/ (master) not all masters are created equalMy genius ideas don't come to you for free though, you should post your work now in exchange for reading this
>>8065034/beg/
>>8065104/permabeg/
>>8065198im /permapro/
>>8065203I know, I already said that
>>8065205/permaint/
>>8065211/prepro/
Two recent big pieces plus a character illustration.
>>8065289mid /int/
Sill struggling w/ basic stuff, if I had to give myself a rating it'd be mid-high beg>>8064332At least high /int/ if not pro>>8064387/adv/
>>8065319low-mid /int/ closing in on mid-high /int/
>>8064232Little collage hopefully gets a better idea
>>8065289low /beg/ with high /beg/ energy>>8065319high /beg/ with low /int/ energy>>8065326mid /beg/ with mid /beg/ energy
If I don't get at least TWO pros I am gonna lose it
>>8065326low /int/ >>8065329/pro/
>>8065077>>8065327What does energy mean in this context? Is it like potential or impression?
>>8065329pro
>>8064232I think im still a beg, please tell me what should i do to get better, i was thinking that drawings backgrounds is what i need but i takes me hours to make this drawings i kind of get tired to draw a complex backgrounds.
>>8065322>>8065327thx dudes>>8065350Looks /adv/ to me but if you feel backgrounds are your weakness then you should work on 'em alone.
>>8065350/pro/>>8065354low /int/>>8065319high /int/
>>8064956BlindAlso I have sold designs for actual companies so if anything I am pretty commercializable
>>8065372Im sorry. you're /pro/
Well?
>>8065416/adv/
>>8065416mid-high /int/ average x artist
>>8065417>>8065421That’s crazy I just started drawing a week ago
>>8065427blog?
>>8065289Low beg. Work on your hands, they really stick out against everything else. >>8065319Lower end of Mid beg. Very stiff figures.>>8065326Pre beg>>8065350Low /int/>>8065372You really came into this thread thinking you'd only receive compliments huh. Have fun stagnating.
Funniest thread ever
>>8065415>>8065435Not sure why it offends you twoAre you mad... you have not reached that level?
>>8065450Im mad
>>8065430r/14imandthusisdeep
>>8065466joined and bookmarked
>>8065438Explain
>>8065416>>8065427Liar you are from [s4s]I am from s4s too I left because of kyrieYou have great art you need to genuinely make a blog (don't post shit like that second post as reaction images you can get banned for not posting your own art here) (and yes I know that is a trace, do not lower yourself to tracing your drawings are very good)
>>8064232fairly old collage but i still think it's representative, feels like i've stagnated a bit
>>8065523Sketching is the easiest part so tracing is valid.>Inb4 powerless rage
>>8065523Tracing is legit because it only removes the easiest part of drawing.
>>8065589getting the angles and sizes right is the hardest part lol
>>8065590Its not lmao what the fuck are you talking about, especially for some shitty white void girl
>>8065587>>8065589>>8065592Lol why do you think so many people trace AI... They legitimately have trouble with the body. They become /beg/ without it and it all falls apart
>>8065592I wouldnt call it shitty, he used a good brush and selected a good color palette that makes the void add to the character, she looks supernatural and it works, if you knew about composition you would understand but you are bitter shitter so kill yourself.
>>8065608Wow you know so much about composition anon, did you get the tinglies when you found the chance to post your careful faggot nigger analysis? Go back to s4s.
>>8065583high /int/ >>8065695mid /int/
>>8064232Shouldn't these threads function in that to rate you'd have to actually post your own art as well?
>>8065708He is not the s4s anon retardo I am
R8
>>8065723Some more
>>8065723>>8065724high /int/
>>8065723>>8065724good fundamentals. low /int/
>>8065329This is good anon.Looks nicer as a thumbnail tho....
Some mediocre sketches. Been a while since I last drew so pretty rusty
>>8065802Oops forgot to rotate
>>8065523I don’t give a fuck nigga, I’ll post whoever’s art I want, I don’t trace shit and you should be banned for even implying that sort of thing
>>8065802low /int/
>>8065416low end of high beg (perhaps even mid beg), stiff posing, and some drawings look very cluttered. Hands don't look very good, I notice you hide them a lot, thats low beg behaviour. >>8065723Mid beg>>8065583Lower end of mid beg
>>8065811>Lower end of mid begyou're blind
>>8065811Okay pyw so I can gaslight you too
>>8065589What absurd retarded cope is this. Tracing removes every real hard part of art: composition, subject, anatomy, perspective, gesture, line work, shapes, creativity. Sketch is 95% of the work and anything past that is either finalizing a good work or polishing turd. You are stunting your development if you are tracing to avoid sketching. You could just use a coloring book if you really think sketch is not important.
>>8065831All the artists who made an impact colored tens of coloring books
>>8065835Why would you think it's a good response to my post unless you imply they never made a sketch and only colored coloring books in which case it would be wrong and retarded.
Alien is from imagination if it's important
Lots of egotistical begs trying to fish for compliments in this thread. Amusing. >>8065812He's hiding his issues with rendering.>>8065823>>8065416Upon looking closer at your work, I change my rating from low end of high beg to mid beg. I guess I fell for the rendering too!
>>8065845based seer anon
>>8065804S4S frend this is the original
No more reaction images bc im done dunking on you chuds and u don’t deserve to see the gold stached in my precious vault of images >>8065845You saved my work and scribbled all over it and even tried to meme on meAt least have the decency to kiss the tip and button my dior jeans back up after youve throated me whole and swallowed it all >>8065859Not your friend
>>8065856that's not how shadows work you dumb shit
>>8065856The lighting could use some work. low /int/>>8065842high beg-low /int/
PYW if you’re going to critique since you people just love throwing around begs and ints LOL
>>8065891/pro/
>>8064811Study sargent... PLEASE. Also that air brush you use is ass.
>>8065875Don't be so tsun, I am your frend whether you like it or not and friends tell friends if they immediately found out their work was traced so you don't get blacklisted on Xitter when you make a new accountMy bury pls do not steel
>>8065845>>8065811yeh, definitely very true. I’ve been working on perspective and construction when I can, here’s an exercise to that effect that I didn’t render, it’s a more effective show of my weaknesses>>8065712I wish! Working to make that judgement universal
>>8064258Int>>8064332Pro, with signature too whaaat>>8064387Adv>>8064430Demon slayer proportions but can be commercialized >>8064785Adv>>8064811Adv but commercializing is the hard part>>8064824Beg>>8065289Looks like fetish art, int but could be pro>>8065319Refer to above
>>8065326Int>>8065329Adv shading but lazy int sketch/outline>>8065350Humble brag, no pity from me for a low beh>>8065583Adv but intermediate cuteness level>>8065695>>8065723mid tier b drawthreads core
>>8065903s4s oc is known for being subpar below low beg so idk what ur going for
>>8065842High /beg/
>>8066016/pro/>>8065914high /int/
>>8065856Mid beg, but I'll give you extra points for the bg, which is better than a character in a white void. Character is closer to low beg though.>>8065875>u don’t deserve to see the gold stached in my precious vault of imagesYeah I sure am missing out on a lot of anime girls in a white void with hand deformities>You saved my work and scribbled all over itRedlining is "scribbling all over it"?>tried to meme on meShowing you errors in your own work so you can improve them is "memeing" you?>>8065891>More deformed handsWhat references are you using for hands?>>8065914>No handsOk please start studying hands they are probably your biggest weakness right now. >>8065914>>8065917>Mislabeling almost every one, and calling a low /int/ low begMy final rating for you is low /beg/, or maybe /crab/ is a better fit.
im curious, sure
>>8066099low-/beg/?mid-/beg/?Maybe pre-/beg/?Honestly, I can't at all tell what you were going for, so I can't really rate how well you pulled it off.
>>8065891>PYW PYWno one is ever gonna pyw while calling you a left handed monkey, it looks bad on your art, when are you guys gonna realize
>>8066099>afraid you might draw something
>>8066114>>8066127>/beg/it's so joever
>>8066099/pro/
>>8065350Tried a background.
>>8066189high /int/. Could be the layout of a Frazetta painting.
>>8065839What you just said makes no sense, like you are actually retarded. Please reply again so i can have more fun
>>8065842Aint no way they are calling this high beg, bro you drew a different bird
>>8064387Low int but great peaks
>>8064811Could pass as pro if you stopped using that uncanny airbrush rendering that makes everything look plastic and added more hard edges and texture. The 3rd pic looks the strongest. I am actually seriously impressed how you could be so advanced at some things and then others are on the level of a 12 year old posting on deviantart.
Some dumbfucks here really need to be reminded what low beg looks like
>>8066197That makes me happy to hear, just gotta keep grinding.
>>8066099oh i just noticed op it says 3 works
>>8066442
trying a cartoonish approach
>>8066509/pro/>>8066443Mid /int/>>8066442High /int/>>8066268High /beg/-low /int/
Opinions? Asked around on what my comm price should be and got an odd few answers that conflicted with each otherI'd PREFER if you'd focus on the guy with the bat since that's what I was being judged on in the situation I'm referring to. Trying to see if my arts rapidly declined since last I posted here & got a good few positive responses
>>8064232Give me... the critique(narcissistic validation) to fuel my motivation...
>>8066599
>>8066575high /int/ >>8066581low /beg/ >>8066599>>8066602/adv/
>>8066575I remember top right.The brain is amazing. How the fuck can this thing remember an image I looked at for just a second or two - months ago!
>>8066581Redline the arm bottom right.I like the colors of the washes.
>>8066509the top studies shouldn't count, it's kinda disengenous you should have disclosed it
I only get 3 likes from friends, and the people that look at my traditional art really pay attention to it for 1 secs and say "its pretty, i cant draw" fuck my life
>>8066703Low int , you have a big problem with values , turn your art mono in black and white more often see if you can still read what’s going on , composition as well as well as light color theory , try and go warmer as you go darker so your paintings are less muddy, it looks like you are comfortable and lines aren’t a problem for the things you are comfortable with it’s just the struggle areas like your hands, you should pay more attention and care when you draw them
>>8066719Med int actually
>>8066703high /int/ good rendering
>>8066189Tried painting something
>>8066264Noooo the air brush did nothing wrong. I admit I genuinely struggle with edge control but i don't solely rely on the airbrush, that would be blurry deviant art tier stuff. Recently I've tried using line art to define figures but I really don't like it looks tacky desu>>8065898Recommend an alternative? Honestly digital arts toughest challenge is mastering the software i personally use the air brush to gain a soft textured effect These are two of my wips >Air brush propoganda
>>8066675my bad, i should've been clear on that, studied leibo(le2b0022) on those top 2 drawings.
>>8066758tried colors for the first time in a long time.
>>8066703the horrid consequences of academic training/atelierfagging. its OVER / 10>>8066824trying too hard with le mspaint / 10>>8066581i cant draw so i cope with le abstract brushes / 10>>8066575hiding hands / 10>>8066509blocky af, start grinding curvy lines now / 10>>8066127>>8066099kek and lel
>>8066837okay in MY defense I do usually draw hands I just have a sort of hard time making a pose that shows 1-2 characters faces clearly, some dick/ass, and includes whatever details I like. aka I have coomer priorities hard to include hands if they aren't jerking off & I suck at composition >>8066652yeah truly is nuts. I THINK I posted that one and the full color. Had a similar thing happen to me with a guy who posted studies of frogs>>8066646appreciated
>>8066830/adv/ >>8066824Mid /int/
>>8064332there is something weird going on with the hip area /igh beg for weird stuff happening in the back>>8064785mid int>>8064824low beg, >>8065416mid beg?
Anyone who does not include any drawings of hands is an automatic mid/low beg. And almost everyone in this thread also suffers from stiff posing, do some gesture drawing. >>8066509>>8066581>>8067031Low beg>>8066599high beg>>8066703>>8066824mid beg>>8066575Mid beg, posing is stiff and generally uninteresting. You are hiding hands/not drawing them. Faces are incredibly unappealing, they look like wikihow illustrations. The drawing of the two characters having sex is not very appealing either, it comes off like sex with a prostitute, they almost seem uninterested, and it suffers from porn posing (and just a general bad posing issue).>>8067015>hard to include hands if they aren't jerking off & I suck at compositionMaking up excuses to not draw hands is low beg behavior. Your hands are not very good either, they are stiff and theres an overreliance on reference (just in general, not just hands).
>>8067108pyw
>>8067108
>>8067031high /beg/-low /int/ could be in the newspaper
>Error: Our system thinks your post is spam. Please reformat and try againPart 1 because this website was designed by vibe coding Indians:>>8067031Beg but the style is very cute and appealing, which is hard for begs to obtain.>>8066824High beg, interesting pose but the proportions are wild. Also the line work sucks, sorry but you're not unique for using literal MS paint tier lines.>>8066769Beg, shading is God awful, literally hurts my eyes it's too blurry.>>8066703High beg, a bit generic, the gestures on some of those girls are really fucking good.>>8066599>>8066602Int, it's boring to look at.>>8066581low beg, schizophrenic nonsense.>>8066575Int, really gay, but that's obviously your goal.>>8066509High beg for the top two drawings. Do not know what happened to you when you drew the bottom >>8066099
Part 2:>>8066442More blurry fucking paintings. Mid beg but fucking hell guys, who's teaching you to paint?>>8066189I don't know what to rate this. The proportions and muscle location make no sense. Like what the hell is going on with her calves? Shading is confident and distinct, maybe mid beg?>>8065856Mid beg. A+ for being the only motherfucker in this thread to make a full colored background.>>8065723Low int. Good poses, actually interesting characters. You have potential.>>8065289beg. Kind of cancerous, but I respect the fat fetish with brick shaped noses hustle. I'm sure there's some freak out there that would goon to this.>>8064811MORE blurry paintings please fuck off. Beg.>>8064785Soul but it pains me to say mid beg, your portrait copies are actually good, but that's not an indication of skill (any braindead monkey can be a Xerox copy machine). You do have potential.>>8064430Extremely forgettable coom slop. Grab a brain and make something actually interesting, mid beg, possibly a pedophile.>>8064387Bonus points for trad, mid beg, the violin group is soulful>>8064332Int. Tranny coded. The giant fucking nametag is pure cringe. Probably grooms people on Discord. Definitely shills a twitter account.Anyone who wasn't (you)'d posted extremely low effort garbage.
>>8066824this is low or mid int and the people seething at the usage of ms paint or mistaking the obvious stylization for bad sense of proportions are themselves eyelets
>>8066824>>8067275>scribbly unconfident lines>hair goes into unappealing straight slope on top that makes it look like part of her head got cut off>looks like she has a unibrow>side burns? strange and unappealing choice for a cute anime girl subject.>mouth too close to eyes>unironic "my style">also no hint of bgmid beg.Also using mspaint is not an issue, but it can hide faults. He should post more pieces and ones that arent sketches or mspaint.
>>8067282I think he's just aiming to imitate the gazillion of xitter and newgrounds artists that draw exactly like that and pulls it off well, you simply dont know what youre talking about
>>8067270>Vibe coding >Unironically I cast Indian gang rape on you fucking faggot; unless you enjoy that shit then I'll just personally rape your mom instead
>>8067282>claims beg>brings up only design complaints (int+ issue) instead of fundies (beg issues)Congratulations, you played yourself
How the fuck has no one here heard of oekaki and binary pencils but thinks themselves qualified to rate others It's literally a board on this site, a sister board at that and right next to /ic/ on every list
>>8067282Never rate again.
>>8067333The linework is a fundie issue. Its one of the early things that should be worked on. Appeal also is a big part of someones skill level, making lots of unappealing choices is /beg/. Its like when someone has good knowledge of anatomy, but makes really shitty colour choices and uses a black air brush for shading. The bad design choices bring down the whole drawing.Most fundamental issues weren't brought up, because they are ok.>>8066824Some more crits:Pose is better than most in thread, but stiff. Proper use of perspective on character, but some parts in rpg look off. Hands are ok but the bottom hand is awkward, and should have been changed for better appeal. Why is she doing a sort of peace sign towards the ground? maybe the arm should have been placed upright and out of the body for a clearer pose. Hair feels lazy compared to everything else, its half assed. And a composition issue, my eyes are really drawn to the very simple shoes and legs, and the black shading of the inside of the skirt. The focus should be the face and rpg but I keep on looking to the lower body. Also no bg takes away some points, anyone can learn to draw characters in perspective but putting them in bgs is difficult, and so is creating good bgs.still mid beg rating.
>>8067031Beg bait. Disguised int
Lots of times reading /ic/ makes me wonder just how many of you motherfuckers are just dumbass teenagers.
>>8067352The unfortunate part is, most of them are realistically closer to 30
>>8067352ngl im a pro and dropped a couple of pictures to have fun, got labeled beg kek so take anything else here with a big grain of saltall in all its a bit unfair what i did because they weren't quite honest about what it was anyways
>>8067365I’m curious which one is you, nothing posted looks particularly /pro/ to me. The blurry furfag one? The blurry studies guy? I have no clue.
>>8066824The guy saying /beg/ is mega stupid, he just doesn't like your styleAll I would say, is practice drawing an ear closer to realism before stylizing it because the current one is distractingly simpleMid /int/ on everything but the lineart, quite nice hand
>pity ratings being given out>begs wrongly rating other begs as int/adv/pro>anons highly rating their own art after being criticized>begs claiming to be pro>begs expecting ass kissing>begs trying to argue with correct criticismfunniest thread ive seen in a while.
>>8067366most producion or preproduction professional artwork looks like shit or very simple anyways unless you know what they're trying to convey or you're doing the final presentable imagefor the other departments the easier you can iterate and make clear the communication of the idea and guide the consumer towards your intended purpose while fitting under the deadline the betterif it works with simplified shapes it'll work once it's polishedpainting a pretty picture can only get you so far once you get into say the design of visual storytelling plus having to adapt to a product's stylenot to say fine art academics has no place, that's always welcome, and one of my favorite things to do as well (I'm the go to for when they need a specific high render or key still illustration)but I haven't made anything that is "wow" for myself in like, years because of constant studio work, just too much of a timesink in exchange for twitter likes
>>8067270>Part 1 because this website was designed by vibe coding Indiansit's because youre quoting too many posts you tourist newfag
>>8067378>I pin you down from behind and pull your pants down>I rub your butt cheeks and rim your asshole with my finger>You feel my breathe behind your ears, you squirm knowing what's about to happen>but wait>I don't rape you>I flip you over and start jerking you off>I wait till you're engorged and about to burst before gripping your dick not allowing you to cum>I take out the sounding rod from my back pocket and inch it further into your penis>"a-anon stop..!" >I don't.>You feel the cold metal filling your urethra, pushing your semen back into your balls>The pressure starts to make your penis hurt as it kneads itself onto your prostate>You want to cum so badly>I rip the rod out and snap your dick into a right angle>You moan in pain, spewing semen onto your face>As you clench your eyes from the burn, a whisper permeates your brain>This thread is full of faggots, and you are one of them
>>8066824What an amazing litmus test this picture is. No one saying beg should be taken seriously. I really wish we had ids on this board to filter out worthless opinions.
>>8067397Based
>>8064232what level is this ?
>>8067392I know why you dumb nigger, it's still retarded when it isn't used for spam.
>>8067349Those are still all int level critiques retardo
>>8067353The unfortunate part is, the vast majority of teenagers and new generations don't draw anymore.
>>8067388That ain't an answer, bud.I know 'professional' artists with dA kiddie artwork (and that's their best). Getting paid for art isn't really what /pro/ means.
>>8067440high /int/>>8067443low /int/
>>8067378Should have seen last thread. Welp now these threads are DoA and practically there are no good threads anymore on this board. All the /beg/'s managed to run off all the /int/'s off this board.
>>8067536So... are you a /beg/? If you are not a /int/ or /pro/ then that is all that leaves
>>8067443/soul/
>>8067536was last thread bad?
>>8067505The opposite is more true to be desu. The 90s and 2000s were very art-negative. Millenials have a reputation as marvelbrain corpoconsumers for a reason.
>>8067538You forgot about /adv/
>>8067551Pro and adv are on the same tier, as far as these threads are concerned. When have you ever seen literally anyone get rated /adv/
>>8067557>When have you ever seen literally anyone get rated /adv/At least 10 people here
>>8067557>When have you ever seen literally anyone get rated /adv/Litterally right here >>8067030Fucking joke of a board now because foids have taken over.Or how about right here.>>8066646
>>8067560Oh you are right and I am the retard, why was I always conflating it with /int/ in my headThank you for breaking my genjutsu
>>8067563Have sex incel
>>8066189>>8066830>>8066758X or insta?
when everyone is int then noone is ahh thread
>>8067397>writing gay torture fanfiction cause you got criticizedcute.>>8067440Mid beg. She also looks like a corpse, Her pose is really stiff, and shes staring into nothing. No bg, Hand on hat is stiff, hand on staff looks also stiff and the thumb looks broken/dislocated (maybe you are double jointed, and used your own hands as reference, but I doubt it).>>8067443Bonus points for trying a bg, and putting characters in it, but the perspective is really off. The bg is not very pleasing either. The shading on the girl isn't good, in some places she looks like she got burnt. Shading in general is just ass. One hand is smaller than the other on her, and the shapes used for the hands are blocky and unappealing. Posing is stiff, especially the boy. Also sexualizing children is not appealing.Low beg trying to disguise itself as mid beg.
>>8067583>criticismJust like you, I couldn't be bothered to post my work >tortureYou know you love it my little can of silly string
>>8067516that's literally what it means, being valued enough to be paid money from someone else to solve their visual problemsjust look at liam vickers, very deviantart and yet he's obviously proim pro because i've been paid a monthly salary by a studio for years for my drawings, and the stuff i've done has been received well both critically and financially as well as selling on merchandise for tens of thousands of dollarsif anything there should be an even higher tier than /pro/ since even all the way up there's a distinction between seasoned /pro/ who are seniors and fresh juniors
>>8067625>if anything there should be an even higher tier than /pro//adv pro/
>>8067625I was just curious at first, but this is sounding more and more like cope. Why are you dodging the question? If you were really that good it would show even in your sketches.
Should I just give up.
>>8065723>>8065724By the way, what do you think I should be focusing on/studying ?
>>8067669dont give up /adv pro/>>8067673high /int/ blog?
>>8067542Last thread was filled with anime coping fags.
>>8067686There were a lot of /adv/ last thread
>>8067271>says the guy drawing wojack portraits has potential>brings discord and grooming out of nowherethis nigger needs to go back to the sharty.
>>8067563I agree with you. It's insane that we arrived to the point that we literally have a female art official. Now it's not even centered on art styles, we have officials focusing not even on art but on what you have between your legs. Should we create white people and males-only only threads now too? Or discrimination and focus on non-art related stuff is normal only when women do that?
>>8067716I should also add that it'ss imbecilic to create X-only threads in anonymous places. The only explanation here is that either the authors of the thread are genuine low-IQ morons or they want to attract attention, literally nobody knows your identity until you reveal ii yourself. I might be fucking Xi Jinping and nobody here would know that
>>8067716Why do you feel intimidated by whats probably a maximum of 20 women and some mtfs pretending to women? Shouldn't you be happy there are women here? Or are you a fag (or a troon mad he was chased off from the female general)?>>8067669Keep on going
>>8067750I think you have to learn how to read, you moronic monkey, or maybe you don't know the meaning of the words you are using. I don't feel intimidated and I wrote in detail why it's retarded to create a thread dedicated to people based on what they are in real life
>>8067673>>8065724>>8065723low /int/Decent figures, remarkably bad taste.If you want to study something, you should probably study design. Or like go watch some cartoons very intensely or something.>>8067716I mean, no one ever said you can't make a men's art club. You're the only one saying there shouldn't be new art groups.
>>8067716>Should we create white people and males-only only threads now too?These already happened and they all died because the people who wanted them spent more time pol-posting than drawing.
Mods rangeban me for posting drawings but they dont range ban the schizos.??????????
>>8067716Have you EVER posted a single drawing made by yourself? you just insult everybody in every power level thread but never have the balls to post your own shit.
>>8067563>>8067716You're both retards. Also there was a males only thread, which ironically became a shitfest that died in a single attempt because no one fucking drew anything. Gatekeeping is good, get fucked.
Many nodraws here rating everything low beg because they don't have any frame of reference what a low beg drawing should look like. They never progressed from low beg onward so they have no idea what different stages involve.
int bros assemble
>>8067780>remarkably bad taste.Wdym
Hahaha, anons there's no power level, only those who make it, and those who do not. GMI or NGMI. Nothing else in between, just draw, and we all going to make it! Believe! Trust in the process! You got this!
>>8067884NTA but I had the exact same reaction. Technical skills are good but the taste is extremely bland. That said you don't have to take it too personally -- this sums up most of the people posting on this board. I think it's because most people on /ic/ are obsessed over fundamentals and do not take time to cultivate true passion.>By the way, what do you think I should be focusing on/studying ?My friendly advice would be to tell you to study colors, from both lessons but also artists you like. Also try to find or create a particular subject you can get a bit obsessed over instead of only drawing random stuff.
>>8067884The designs are derivative, but like second order derivative. It feels like a mix of early 2000s newgrounds art and ecchi, but from someone who has never actually interacted with of those things except for what's filtered down into 4ch picrels. If that makes sense. Riffing on cliche designs, but doesn't get why those designs worked in the first place.>>8065723The girl on the right is the best example of this. It seems to be going for some kind of sexy martial-arts thing like a fighting game character, maybe some kind of slavegirl. Except with giant hentai tits. But it just looks like her tits sucked all the vitality from the rest of her body and she's a shriveled corpse with lumpy tumors stuck to her chest. It feels tactless like the tits just got slapped on there for effect with little consideration for what it does to the rest of the design. To some degree all of the designs are like this.
>>8067536>there are no good threads anymore on this boardThat because 90%+ of niggers on /ic/ don't even draw god knows why so many nodraws flock to this board just to give their trash opinions and flood the board with eternal dunning krugger.
>>8067889>>8067890Can I see what you think is good taste?
>>8067716>Should we>weNot your personal army. You are the only one with a problem, and running into threads crying about muh discrimination makes you look like a hurt faggot.
>>8067270>>8067227>>8067350thanskies for the ratings :3
>>8067350It isn't beg bait. That's how she draws. Fpr years.There's some basic understanding: the clothing folds, etc. In scenes that require some shape/form/3D it falls apart.Mid /beg/
What happened to the /beg/ & /int/ thread?
>>8068064Nothing really? Dumbasses just forget to fill in subject field. And we are getting less people in general, threads slowed down.
>>8068073>we are getting less people in general, threads slowed down
>>8068073>>8068110They're on the many /beg/ discord servers
>>8067993Your stuff has appeal, which is THE most important thing in art. But I also think you should take some time and draw something fundamental, like a normal proportioned face or body, to make some real progress.
>>8067563>>8067716Imagine randomly blaming another thread for why this one sucks kek mentality ill faggots like (You) are the reason why this board has gone to complete shit with your schizophrenic, nodraw asses.
>>8068110>turns out not pushing back against poisonous "advice" trolls wasn't a good ideapick a shoe face
>>8068143Seconding this.
>>8067993Your art work is low /beg/, and you are hiding behind your art style. I can barely understand what's happening in your art. The compositions are boring or horrible, and cluttered. Your figures are hard to understand often, and they are stiff. Your hands are awful. >>8067223 I don't understand what this is supposed to be. You also literally had to label a panel "digging with a spade", if that wasn't there I don't think I'd understand what was going on. The only positive I can give you is attempting backgrounds. >>8067031 It looks like you traced that figure in the April and july panels, cause the next two figures drop in quality. You also very clearly came into this thread to receive compliments, and thought you would not receive any real criticism. Pathetic.
>>8067563>>8066646 being labeled adv doesnt bother me, it looks like the current mainstream instagram/tiktok art>>80967030 is <int, the anon that rated it probably disnt even expand the miniature because its just unbelievable
>>8067917It's subjective, of course, so here's my take on the design I pointed out. Note that this has nothing to do with stylization or rendering, just design.The weird pointy boots are replaced with some sandals and gaiters. It comes off as more youthful, and fits the theme better. The gaiters themselves raised up a bit to create a kind of absolute territory zone with the tunic. If you think they look too modern, you could do something like leg wraps for a similar effect. But the wide leg base makes her feel more balanced, and keeps the oversized tits and shackles from making the design too top-heavy. The breasts are a more natural shape to go along with the rougher character concept. Too keep it sexy, instead of accentuating the nipples so much, which comes off as gratuitous, I add sideboob and some very faint transparency to the tunic. The more natural breast shape also helps with this, and makes the tits feel more tangible. Likewise, the quartered opening of the shirt is replaced with a simple flat front to better accentuate the implied cleavage area, and make the area feel softer overall. The limbs are given a bit more meat for more of a shortstack-lite figure. Little chain link is added to the bracelets to make it more clear they're supposed to be shackles.Good taste is essentially the ability to predict what the audience will want, even beyond, and often contradictory to what they say they want. A big part of this is convincing them that you have the right idea. If your art is fighting with itself about what it wants to be, the audience is not going to be particularly convinced.
>>8068368Thank you for the writeup and art, I'll think about it. I'm being lazy with design and poses, I need to step up
>>8068143>>8068215will try to do that morethanskies :3>>8068278seethe more
>>8068880You realize all three of these comments are saying the same thing, right?
>>8069030Yeah but one of them is a nigger so not exactly the same.
>>8069050>Calling someone a nigger because they gave you criticism and called out your tracingThat really fucked with your ego huh.Anyways, another criticism, the way you letter things is hard to read, you should use the text tool or write better letters. The characters mesh into the backgrounds and each other, due to being badly drawn and having similar colours/values. And you need to study drawing hands, and everything else really.You'll probably be a low beg for years, or maybe your whole life since you only want compliments.
>>8068368Lmao. His is better.Grim.
>>8069081maybe start with posting your own work
>>8069112NTA, I'm >>8068368If you accept compliments from people who didn't post work, but don't accept criticism from people who didn't post work, your rejection of the latter has nothing to do with whether or not they posted work.
skulshs
>>8069171>skull rotationsHigh /int/ with /pro/ energy
>>8069171Damn these are nice. Like the other anon said high int with pro energy, you’ll make it there with this type of ambition.
>>8068368I agree his design is generic, but yours is worse. >stiff straight arms>block hands instead of actual hands>rendering instead of making a good sketch>replacing exposed leg with covered up leg>replaced cute boots with sandals (nasty ass foot fag)you are mid beg, it was pretty clear by calling him low int (dont worry, the guy you are criticizing is also mid beg, just like you) and your work is worse than his. why would your criticize someone who you thought was a higher level than you? Or did you think you were low int?>>8069171No hands shown, low to mid beg.
>>8069240pyw
>>8069271>>8068368Not him but he's right. Yours is stiffer, the sandals don't make sense with those leg dressings, and you removed the nipple bumps.
>>8069240Draw a better version of >>8068368, don't forget to include the hands.
>>8069273i'm not the artist, but I do want to see his expertise since he's claiming everything is mid/beg/.
>>8069275No one in this thread is higher than /int/.
>>8069275I am the artist, and he's obviously trolling, asking him to draw anything is pointless.
>>8069276There are at least 19 /pros/ though
>>8069277(Correct) Criticism is "trolling"?Funny how no one has tried to argue with my criticisms, they just tell me to pmw and such. If my criticism was incorrect, wouldn't have someone tried to argue against it, and be correct?Why are so many people expecting to be praised in a thread that's about what level your art is? Why even post in the Artwork/Critique board?
>>8069291>no art Blah, blah, blah. You nodraw losers always want to be authorities on artwork without proving that you have the skills to be an authority.
>>8069291Most criticism is correct, but not all correct criticism is relevantA monkey can point out that a hand is bad, if you don't explain why it's bad and why it matters it's a useless truism. You can poke holes in anything for any reason. Meaningful criticism critiques. Same goes for praise.
>>8069305The redraw being more stiff is a valid critique. It's also added irony considering the redraw really isn't really any more interesting to look at.
>>8069305If you want a more in depth criticism, point out your artwork (or did I already criticize your stiff boring hands?). I can't go in depth on every post, especially if I'm replying to multiple people. Even then, most of the posts where I've gone more in depth, the people I'm criticizing won't even accept it. What's the point in putting in the effort if the guy won't even bother to read it and keep it in mind so he can improve?
>>8068368 >>8068378 >>8069106 >>8069139 >>8069240 >>8069273 >>8069274You're all retards and should kill yourselves. Here's your slop, lap up piggies
>8069337>mindbroken, possibly retardedSad to see.
>>8069338integrate retard
>>8069309>>8069313It is stiff on purpose, her arms and body are straight to add weight to the shackles. (And I just like stiff poses, feel free to explain why that's bad if you want) You can think it doesn't succeed in what it's trying to do that's valid, but just saying "it's stiff" doesn't mean anything. Stiff isn't bad and limber isn't good. The question is whether or not it fits the intention of the drawing.And it's not supposed to be more interesting, it's deliberately not more interesting, even. I said the concept itself is cliche, it IS a boring design as far as I'm concerned. All I did was draw the same character with the same general design, adjusted to fit my own taste. What I find interesting is different from what I find tasteful, even if those might overlap. Likewise I'm not trying to critique what the original guy is interested in, but I can critique his sense of taste.I also drew that in about 15 minutes to critique the other guy, it's basically a redline. It's badly drawn in general, and I'm not trying to outdraw him, that's irrelevant to the point I was trying to make.Regardless regardless, if people won't accept your criticism, your method of critique is probably just bad. /ic/ is a shitshow, but if you give good criticism people usually accept it just fine. The guy I was replying to was fine with it. If you put another couple seconds into your post to explain why your list of things-that-are-bad are actually bad, I promise people will be more likely to listen.
>>8069337Do constructoids really?
>>8069309Come on what do you mean the original is less stiff, she is stiff as fuck and leaning like michael jacksonGet the fuck out of here>>8069340>Posting india gamedev ai slopNegative aura
>>8069340>>8069340>It is stiff on purposeCope (basically "my style" excuse). Do some gesture drawing and exaggerate your poses.>>8069340>(And I just like stiff poses, feel free to explain why that's bad if you want)No you don't. Making up excuses for not studying is really pathetic. Stiff posing is ugly, it brings down the appeal of the piece, it's boring to look at and it can worsen compositions, etc. >And it's not supposed to be more interestingYou were talking about good taste, is good taste not supposed to be more interesting?>adjusted to fit my own tasteYour taste is boring and generic.>but I can critique his sense of taste.Not with your taste. >I also drew that in about 15 minutesBut you spent the time to render? Any excuse to not draw hands.>I'm not trying to outdraw himYes your are. Why include a rendered version if not? That wasn't necessary to making design criticisms. A good sketch was all that was needed. >if people won't accept your criticism, your method of critique is probably just bad.It just seems like people here just don't want to hear the harsh reality that their art needs improvement.>If you put another couple seconds into your post to explain why your list of things-that-are-bad are actually bad, I promise people will be more likely to listen.If someone gets told their posing is stiff, instead of being told their posing is energetic and interesting, and doesn't understand why that's bad, that's his fault for not understanding basic criticism. And people here really can't go on google and look up something like "how to fix stiff posing in art", "How to draw hands in interesting poses"? >>8069337>Use of a boxI kneel, we finally have a /pro/ here.
>>8069337>trace over drawing >still doesn't know where to place vagina and hips It's always these fucking perma/beg/s holy kek
>>8069370Typing out "it's stiff", but with more words still doesn't count as a critique, you know.
im stiff iykwim
>>8069381You are the retard that draws the same overly detailed post mortem female torsos over and over aren't you? (>>8068378 this)You think you know more about anatomy than you actually do
>>8069395pyw or your criticism against a high /int/ is null and void
>>8069395Hilarious watching you act high and mighty when you still don't even know basic human proportions. leave it to the fucking pre/beg/ to be judging anyone kek
>>80692404 out of 6 points don't have anything to do with design. Why do you keep coming back here sharteen? You don't even draw. Is it just to embarrass yourself and be retarded because you think you are doing some epic trolling?
>>8069427Anatomy is a design element. And the other criticisms are still valid. And what is a "sharteen"?
>>8069337So this is the clown that insults everybody? doesnt surprise me.
first time posting here, would like feedbac on anything honestly but especially the anatomy and perspective since those are the two important things i'm working on right now.
These were originally little doodles of nazca ceramic that i tried to make into character. would like some honest feedbacks since it looks wonky to me but i don't know what's wrong
>>8069415I am not the tits box guy>>8069401He is not high int you are trolling, this is high int >>8069479
>>8069483That is not high int, too many problems with values, hard to read, the figure sneezing is a little bad, the composition maybe is good in the lineart phase but after everything he did it is kind of a mess, the perspective is strange and his forshortening is not the best.I think he is low int or maybe mid int but he didnt do the best job with that piece.
>>8069483I'm not >>8068378 either, but it's interesting that you're dead set on talking down on him while pointing other people work instead.
>>8067712>wojack portraitits a real guy that just looks like a chud. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYvEz8evrgUbut yeah, those guys ratings are all over the place. most of the thread is just a giant turd and shitflinging contest. essentially it boils down to anime pin-ups or not.
>>8069497There are so many non-anime pinups here that I can only assume you are attracted to them and cannot help foaming at the mouth with a boner upon seeing any anime art at all
>>8069493The values are great if you look at individual areas
>>8069454You are not fooling anyone here kido.
>>8069337Uh oh, big melty.
>>8069337>not a single person posted their work in response to this The absolute state of /ic/
posting a few of my recents drawing (made two month ago max) to have feedbacks . The first two are a redrawing of an older drawing i made 2 years ago.
>>8070087the drawing in questions
Some of my recent worksHow do I make my drawings more eye-catching and have their own merit? The ones that don't depict popular characters barely get any engagement. I know I shouldn't care about that, but the difference is staggering-- 2 likes vs 5k likes. People will like anything when it's fanart of a popular anime character. But that's boring, I want to draw other interesting things
>>8070133Post them with context. Expend a bit on their lore with you drawings. Maybe do small comics with them.
>>8070087>>8070097You're best off going to /beg/ and staying in there for the time being. More people will be around to help you at your level.
>>8070170he first and frouth drawings arent recent , it was from two years ago . i did want to post in /beg/, but i can't find the thread.
>>8070133High beg handicaping himself by heavily referencing every work. I can tell you are feeling completely lost when the reference does not have something you need like in the bottom works where heads are so abysmal they look like some low-mid beg drew in their first attempts at anime heads into a more competent work.
>>8070291It's true, well it's just more fun for me this way, finding cool pictures or movie screenshots and drawing them as anime girls. I really like movie references in particular. If it wasn't for that, I wouldn't be bothered to draw at all >>8070160I'll try, thanks for the ideas
Everyone in this thread who called me a /beg/ can't stop me. If your idea of success is making money and being recognized instead of being happy with having created something that you personally like then I got news for you. This is not cope. I'm going to keep drawing what I like and have fun doing it and there's nothing you can do about it.
>>8070555>I'm going to keep drawing what I like and have fun doing it and there's nothing you can do about it.That's good. That's better than someone whos only goal is to get a job with art instead of having fun.But don't complain if you become unhappy with your art because you didn't study and improve your skills.
>>8064232Not mine but where would you place this animation / art level?
