If you are a /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.DO NOT REPLY to crabs, nodraws, over-analyzing schizos, retards that whine about how hard drawing is or talent debates and instead focus on posted works!>Post Your Work>STICKY:New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0QHardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?viewHardcore (working link): https://hackmd.io/@ArtStudies/rJxNW6aonHardcore (wayback archive):https://hackmd.io/@0uRfwdEoRDiHFz9wibb5sA/ry8nyys6-lCompleted(short):https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jUeG8UTwDAK8WGC4f79IlBGIAGVipfHvo48RF5Xgxyc (sus discord server don't join)Completed: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vm4IJpq0Mbvb-Krl5_mJ_m6TsC_qjsaN/vieww/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/>WHERE to get study materials>>>/ic/artbook>>>/ic/video>Want to practice figures?quickposes.comcharacterdesigns.comlovelifedrawing.composemy.artline-of-action.com>best art teachersGlenn VilppuMichael HamptonSteve HustonBrent EvistonMarco BucciAndrew LoomisGeorge BridgmanHikaru HayashiHide Sensei>best art booksKeys To DrawingDrawing With the Right Side of the BrainHow To Draw Comics the Marvel WayThe Art and Science of DrawingFramed PerspectiveFigure Drawing For All It's WorthThe Complete Guide to Drawing From LifePrevious thread: >>8074746
fuck u u u
fuck hands
>I'm beginner I will read this book to learn how to draw!>the first 120 pages are talking about tools, pencils, papers, brushesI didn't even start and already feels like someone is trying to sell me something.
>Bought a book to learn how to lay bricks>It says I need to buy a trowelFucking shills, man.
>>8077635A more accurate comparison would be talking about the whole Milwaukee lineup of products and how you need them before even talking about a trowel
>>8077635You could just use your hands, like a man
>schizo is back
Rendering is king. Rendering transforms a /beg/ into /int/.
Trying a different pencil
adult woman fetish
>>8077720the best fetish
what is the point of it all
idk how draw animal characters.
>>8077781They are back... To mockhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c53Ii4irZY
I just want to be good enough to develop my own style and tto charge 10-20 bucks per drawing and later move onto digital.
>>8077767just to suffer
>>8077801His left leg is too small
>>8077814yeah ik rip
I wonder why the schizo didnt make a collage.
>>8077781Is he meant to be a snake or something.
>>8077813not as stiff as before but the proportions are still bad. those hands are gigantic.
another figurefinally done with this practice canvas
>>8077813no offense but you've been doing this forever without any improvement maybe it's time to try different approach
>>8077943NTA but the same could be said of everyone who posts in these threads
>anhedonia makes drawing very difficult>I know it's not because I don't enjoy drawing, because i literally cannot motivate myself to play video games or watch anything anyway.God I fucking hate this shit
>>8078011post cock
>>8078011>anhedonia lmfaoYou probably have tinnitus, adhd, autism, aphantasia and ocd too, right?Fucking larpers, man. Anything but drawing.
>>8078016nta but I have 3 of those(tinnitus, autism, ocd) and still draw but when I was depressed around 2018 the anhedonia was legit crippling you just cant do shit
>>8078011So what are you doing all day you're probably capable of doing something
Today i made this
>>8078034the sheer lack of things i can accomplish in a day is embarrassing
>>8078016Decades ago it was called "depression".
default mech pencil in csp is quite nice desu
>>8077942I LOVE U FRENCHIE
6+ years of drawinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIdAj1LVpXc
>>8078114Ultimate proof that talent is king
>>8077943Any suggestions?
>>8078113gulp
>>8078116Draw soft. Draw women with gigantic tits the size of their heads to break out of your angular ways.
>>8078114he barely drew in that time, only like 600 hours in total
>>8078116https://youtu.be/qFAaagZmCMc?t=195
>>8078116don't draw hard angles and straight lines anymore
>>8078114Ive followed this guy for years and was really baffled by his results. I think he just only did DAB and tried to raw-dog realism with nothing else? Even then. I feel like drawing books nerf beginners sometimes because they focus too much on the technicals and don't develop an intuitive eye
>>8078139it's funny because he's notices that something is clearly wrong with his approach, but never thinks of questioning the drawabox way, or even tries finding other resources
I raise up my shoulders when drawing, and I tend to get a death grip sometimes. so today I've dedicated the day to just trying to iron out those habits as much as possible. Any advice on how I can improve this is welcome
>>8078058sameit's like each day I have to choose which thing I'm going to use my energy to accomplish poorly, while the weight of everything else left undone piles up on my chest so each day I deal with the heaviest thing just trying to stay ahead of the load>>8078062it still is tho, anhedonia refers to a specific symptom but it is characteristic of depressionexecutive functioning is also affected by a whole slew of other factors
>>8078144>>8078148
i tried with bones before muscles this time
>>8078148i dont speak anime
>>8078169i feel like i got the rib and pelvis structures right this time, but the pecks? not sure
>>8078116do studies of artists you want to draw like
>>8078116Go out of your comfort zone. These posing women look fine, move on already
>>8077942Hate to ask but, blog?
>>8078183
>>8078207Hey jsyk that's not me you're replying too. But thanks I appreciate the redline
>>8078207Wow. What a difference.
Still working on my VN about 12 identical sisters, wondering if people can tell who the main character is by looking at them.
>>8078036nice rendering keep it up anon
I am going to say "cute" because it'd be weird if I said "I want to fuck your drawing"
>>8078144westoids should really stick to whatever their jewish style isyou'll literally never get anime right
>>8078242Thanks
>>8078254Can you, westoid.
Time to plan a new picture
>>8078304Are you japanese?
>>8078314No
>>8078318that schizo will tell you that anime belongs to the japanese and that you are committing the sin of cultural appropriation by attempting to draw in that style. "westoids" are allowed to only draw in "traditional israeli art" whatever that means.
>>8078324I’ll keep trying to draw anime characters
>>8078329good
Binged all of bakuman yesterday and today. I know its super exaggerated, but I got so pumped up while reading it. I dunno, Im a bit conflicted by it. They put all of this hard work, all of their youth into doing manga; just dictated by sales and so much pressure. Health problems, no breaks... I guess it shows that I'll never be on that level, shit I wont even get to where they started from as middle schoolers. But still, I cant stop. I need to quit doing just these same shitty little sketches and start working on drawing from imagination again. Which means going back to construction and start working on freehanding mannequins. I need to actually challenge myself, start putting in some real effort.Anyways, I've got an interview on thursday, should probably work on that too
does anyone have a link to that big /ic/ torrent with all the courses/books? I want to pirate Proko's figure drawing course. pic related, I drew this
>>8078324Nothing to do with whatever amerimutt political brainrot you have, and literally everything to do with simple genetics and culture.
>>8078343>I need to quit doing just these same shitty little sketches and start working on drawing from imagination againwhat makes you think the imagination drawings are going to come out any better
>>8078365I’m curious, can I have your crit on my picture?>>8078304
>>8078376Did it over again, just for you.... Fuck, I think it got worse
I don't want to make bad drawings. I just want to make good drawings.
simple guide on how to improve human-elf relations
>>8078409That's good
Haven't been in the mood to draw lately so I half assed these.>>8078036Very nice. You should teach us your techniques/process for lighting and rendering sometime because they're really good. Like what usually goes through your head as you do your process and stuff.
>>8078415>half assed:|
>>8078415What did you do to get to this level?
>>8078415I don't think I shared the final product of this one so here it is as well.
>>8078415>>8078420these are so good. how long have you been drawing?
>>8078421Was 1 year in november.
>>8078415>>8078036these guys have been drawing for barely a year btw and are miles ahead of everyone in understanding of everything that is art.
>>8078422did you take any courses?
>>8078419he told me that he drew
>>8078419Being born talented.
>>8078430What did he draw?
>>8078432Talented things. No ref.
>>8078435No way...
>>8078432stuff he likes
>>8078419Drew a lot and asked better artists for advice.>>8078421Thank you. About a year like the other guy said.>>8078426No, but I did have a call with a friend roughly once a week and he taught me some very useful stuff. I think the most useful thing so far has been flow, even though I'm still not very good at it.>>8078432At the start I just copied pictures and other people's art, but for the last few months 95% of the time I've just been drawing the things I like and find interesting.
>>8078422which resources do you use?Do you use ref or is it from imagination?
>>8078444Can we see your copies?
>>8078444>Drew a lot and asked better artists for advice.I'm a bit better than pre/beg/... I never felt like advice was useful. The picture you draw speaks for itself. What could the possibly say? What secret do courses and books hold?So what advice do they give? What helps? I have never seen advice that is better than "just draw". Any other advice was sort of obvious by just looking at the work.
/beg/ and /int/ - brazilfag discussion general
>>8078450Your statement and your questions just show that you are a very bad case of permabeg. Sorry.
>>8078254Okay. I will never get anime right. I will still draw anime regardless. What now?
>>8078451Why do the most talented drawfags come from Brazil and other relative countries?
>>8078450>I'm a bit better than pre/beg/... I never felt like advice was useful.Yikes. Big yikes even. This is a prime example of a post made by someone who will never make it.
>>8078453hahaAll good. Looking forward to his answers, though.
>>8078457I have not noticed any. You might just have poor taste?
>>8078461Relative to this general anyways. The best seem to come from favelas
>>8078457Brazilians are like Mexicans. They didn't fall for the westernized jewish cartoon calarts tumblr tier slop. Anime is more appealing and they're not ashamed of hiding it. Meanwhile Amerigolems need to preform ritualistic hazings involving thousands of straight lines and boxes before ever thinking about actually drawing something.
>>8078467"ritualistic hazings" can you please come up with an original thought and not parrot a youtuber this board will run through and inevitably start to loathe 6 months down the line?
>>8078470>ritualistic hazingsWhat youtubers say this?
>>8078456so you're proving me right like you're some beta cuck lol. holy fuck do westoids really have zero self-reflection? >my 'art' looks ugly with zero appeal, so i should smash into this wall again!
>>8078144Exhibit A: Notice all the useless construction lines a westoid cannot help but to produce. Completely meaningless image, no imagination, those soulless calarts styled eyes. This artist has never copied an anime image in his life. He strives for the style but reverts to his basic westoid instincts and starts constroocting.>>8078415>>8078420Exhibit B: The non westerner. Creative, interesting, confident forms. Not a single constrooction line in site, no guidelines, just does it, clearly has personal goals, copies from other better skilled artists he admires, actually listens to the advice given instead of arguing>>8078470Exhibit C: A westoid too far gone. Has already fallen for the brainwashing. Will never make it, will spend the rest of his sad life in the /beg/ threads where he belongs.
>>8078446CSP5 and a Kamvas 13. I'm assuming that's what you mean by resources anyway. Nowadays I mostly use references for inspiration or when I'm really struggling with a pose.>>8078449Here. Copied from a guy called Antin_Illust>>8078450It wasn't any sort of general advice. Most of the times where I felt like I learned something were from times where I reached out to an artist friend or acquaintance and asked for help with a specific drawing. Getting a 'redline' and seeing how something's actually supposed to look when it's drawn by an experienced artist helps a lot. I've never managed to finish a book or tried any courses so I can't speak to their effectiveness.
>>8078476No I just like what I have right now and I don't really care for you, a dishonest internet stranger's definition of what 'getting anime right' is I do not necessarily want to "get anime right" I just like how the Japanese, no, how east asia as a whole cartoonizes things, and that's reflected in what I draw. That initial post was a sketch from imagination. I wanted help removing my habit of drawing tensely because it is hard to not revert back to that habit when I lose myself in a drawing. That was a drawing I did in attempt to relax my shoulders. I posted it because it was relevant to what I had asked. picrel: more of my drawings. critique is welcomed
>>8078484>I'm assuming that's what you mean by resources anywayI mean books, courses, specific methods (Reilly head), studying specific artists or references, life drawing
>>8078476Also beta cuck? really? Do you live in 2018 or something?
>>8078489ah but you answered it right there.Interesting and reassuring to hear that you, too, do not use books and courses and you are just drawing.Advice in the form of redlines and saying what specifically to improve I can agree with, this would help, yes.Ty for sharing. Great work.
>>8078484his last answer is the crucial one. Having someone that is better than you and knows how to draw give you direct feedback / redlines / paintover is the quickest way to improve. I have noticed that myself too. Even people from this very gen have helped me a lot by going over my work
hello somebody suggested karl gnass from another thread i've been watching his studies but i've realised that i cant get these proportions right when i draw it i always draw bigger than i supposed to draw. is this the lack of anatomy knowledge? how do i get over this?
>>8078487Ugly.
It is much easier when you have talent. This is a fact.
>>8078499stating the obvious becomes embarrassing once you are older than 5.
>>8078498Look at the name of the thread you're in and PYW.
>>8078169>>8078188nothing at all?
>>8078487nigger actually replying to obvious troll posts. if you want to draw anime then learn/copy the real thing, why do this unappealing crap? there's reasons why people do the westoid trolling
>>8078487Ah yes, a Peter Gray fan I see.
>>8078505Try to put more talent into your drawings.
>>8078505Mogs me
>>8078513where do they sell that?
>>8078515At the talent store, where they grow on Megasch trees.
>>8078506I came here because I have a habit of raising my shoulders and have a death grip on my pen, and I want to get rid of those habits and ask for other people's input. I'm good on the "Unappealling crap" comments. I'd like to get what I'd came here for now; How can I get rid of those habits?
>>8078515Fogo de Chão
>>8078518>How can I get rid of those habits?By lowering your shoulders and not being a gorilla when drawing. Are you stupid?
>>8078521this board is so fucking useless lmfaoYeah dipshit. I've been doing that all day, with varying success, I was hoping (in all my naivete) that you assholes would know more about it. But given this place is the epitome of neuroticism, I should've known you guys wouldn't have the first clue about relaxing. What a waste of time. I could've been drawing and just sticking to forcing this habit out of me.
>>8078518Haven't figured out the shoulders part but I did make a copy of my brush of choice and made the pressure scale with opacity way more aggressively so whenever I'm drawing outlines I don't have to death grip my pen. Seems to be working so far.
>>8078531Good idea. I will look into that, thank you
>>8078518hold your pencil/stylus further away from the tiphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftd9V8ZWBvY
>>8077524Today’s life drawings https://postimg.cc/gallery/CMy2fnd
>>8078523>>8078518are you new to the internet? actual underageb&? lil bro crashed over any heat at all ong, prob some spoiled trust fund babby
>>8078523>could've been drawingDoing literally the same thing and getting the same result for years isn't 'drawing' retardbro.
ignore all these retarded posts and tell me who's that capeshit artist that does livestreams and have this flowing thin hatching style. his livestreams are good and have plenty of advice and introspective stuff. doesn't, from memory, do any colors or comic panels and that's all his art looks like (not shitting on it); he's not finch or marzullo or a nigger. kinda looks like a spic with thin hair.
>>8078523Are you insane for real? If you couldn't stop yourself how people through internet could make you stop.
>>8078523>I need positive affirmation for this thing I already know how to fix!
>>8078236mogs me
>he doesn't hide posts without imagesif you're seeing this you're doing it wrong
I cant see the post above me
>good enough to not get people shitting on my work>not good enough to have people actually like my work>just exist in the thread
>>8078595No (you)s? :eyebrow_raise:
I need a challenge
>>8078597yes, I’m a covert narcissist attention whore and I’m tired of pretending I’m not
>>8078603Which one is yours? Ill give you one
>>8078607I don't want pity (you)s, i'm gonna wrench it out of you guys with my next amazing piece
>>8078609You sound desperate
>>8077789today's practice.
>>8078613I am. I want (you)s so bad you will never understand, it's unironically the only thing I look forward to these days
>>8078601Mega is right there.
From imagination.>>8078484maestro, I need a redline, I already know it's fucked. The perspective is hard. Do you map out perspective with boxes and stuff, or do you free-hand it? I do the latter. I also come to you asking for rendering advice. As you see I block out some shadow. I don't know how to improve upon rendering. Do I just layer bock-outs with differing opacity? Or draw new layers with darker greys at full opacity? I don't quite understand digital drawing, I admit. Lineart is comparatively similar enough to trad and intuitive.Much appreciated.
>>8078626Groan, the INT tattoo is too flat, doesn't follow form, should grow slightly larger to the right.Gonna fix it tomorrow. Hopefully together with some redlining and rendering advice by any anon who wishes to chip in
THREAD CHALLENGE
>>8078626>Not even a year drawing>Being called maestro alreadyLol just fucking tired of this pointless struggle. Whats the fucking point of it
>>8078631Id prefer not to have to stare at that
>>8078626>1 year artist is now unironically called a masterwasn't expecting this brutal blackpill
>>8078631i'm good bro
>>8078484how much do you draw daily
>>8078634And by one of the somewhat talented mainstays no less. The talent blackpill is real.
>>8078631Brave of you to post this MtF on 4chan.
>>8078639No, You're just very gay. Your eyes see what your closeted inner obsessions want to see.
>>8078645so wheres the penis?
>>8078626>>8078484I really want to keep drawing but knowing I will never get results like these has been dulling me.
>>8078629I like the wild energy and confidence. However, it won't find much appreciation among the anime friends here
>>8078631Tfw no 40yo gf
>>8078655just keep going anon, it's about the journey not the destination
>>8078658John Lennon sure faced harsh backlash in his days...
>>8078660he deserved it
>>8078658is that about the conspiracy theory about something something anti war songs gaining traction, and the powerful didn't like that, so bang
>>8078669I think it is his self insert who just happens to look like Lennon. He usually draws a character with long light hair.
>>8078670it's bc I look like an uglier fat John Lennon even tho I wish I was a pretty elf bishounen with a masculine daddy bf
>>8078631Who ordered the Arby's roast beef?
>>8078669"The CIA / MKUltra Program Theory: Barrister and journalist Fenton Bresler suggested in his 1990 book, Who Killed John Lennon?, that Chapman may have been brainwashed by the CIA—similarly to the plot of The Manchurian Candidate—to silence Lennon before he could re-emerge as a powerful anti-war and political leader in the 1980s. Proponents often point to Chapman's 1975 travels (including to Beirut) as a period of mental conditioning." theyre soo sick
>>8078304Thoughts on this one? Xitter doesn’t seem to like it, crit?
>>8078672Lose the weight and live your dream
>>8078658>John Twink..?More like John Thick..
>>8078677things are slightly off all over the place and it relies slightly too much on symbolsbut mostly it's just kinda boring
>>8078683What kind of future changes could I implement to make it less boring?
>>8078677Too much symbol drawing. We need Mega to redline it.
>>8078677i dont know who that is so i dont carebasically the fate of OCs or low popularity stuff
>>8078687quickly sketch different iterations of the same ideathe first take is rarely the best one
How do I remember to fix
>>8078677I am no art expert but evaluating whether a piece is bad or good based on twitter algorithm slop is a losing game. I posted a video I thought was kind of rushed and lame to my 30k followers and it got 2.6 MILLION views and ended up with 50k followers afterwards. Nothing means anything.As for your work; I judge pieces on whether they're good enough for Rule34 or good enough for Gelbooru. This is good enough for Gelbooru. It is extremely safe inoffensive milquetoast suggestive anime girl shit. Something an AI can do pretty much.
does this have depth? i also have no idea how to into lighting/shadow
>>8078202I'm using this pixiv accusers/14735673
>>8078722No, anon. The value of the background behind the head is almost the same as the value of the character's face. I would make the background darker and the face lighter. I would also use a gradient in the background.
>>8078722depth yes but those shadows are fuckedyou should also consider points of contact more. her sleeve should deform due to pressing against the book
>>8078722why yes i'd fuck this thing, preferably semi consensually.
I am tired of being permabeg. I want to lget to the point where I can make good drawings but I am permabeg.
>>8078631There's just something wrong with women like this, it's not because they are 40 years old but there's a certain mental illness and darkness about them. Just a bad vibe all the way.
>>8078752its better to be a permabeg rather than permaint
>>8078740>her
>>8078752what do you think perma means retard
>>8078758Shut up.>>8078767I know. Life is unfair.
>>8078758At least permaints can draw what they want.
Do not trust the no draws, they want to make you believe you are bad forever, being a beginner is good. Just draw, and you going to make it. That is the truth.
>>8078773This
>>8078415I try to start using a color i know the subject has but that isnt that present, like for example in the orange vegetable, in the reference i can see that green is the base color so i paint the entire thing green first, then i try to make the important shadows in orange because that is when the orange looks the stronges, then the rest is playing with colors i guess.For human skin i chose i base color like a very soft peach color, then i make the shadows of the countours with a darker color from the same hue, then i add some greens and blues because thats what i remember a really good painter on youtube said, then i add redish pink to the zones that has the most blood so the skin looks alive, and i make the highlights by using a brighter less saturated color from the same hue.I barely understand what im doing really.
>>8078773if anyone falls for the permabeg psyop, they were never gonna make it anyway
>>8078114mogs mekms
>>8078477pyw
>>8078773>oisting drawing of 2 months ago>calling others nodraws
>>8078757It's the alien nature of their lifestyle, maybe. This woman is or was obviously very pretty. Despite that she chose to whore herself out, possibly even moreso for attention than for money. The problem isn't even so much the whoring itself, it's being flotsam still, at that age. Who in their right mind would choose this life over a family and calm life?It reeks of a lifetime of chaos and naivety.And still there's worse fates. Similarly imagine her with a bob haircut, thick rimmed glasses, dress... a likewise childless museum director with a constant sneer and attitude. I think such a person is even darker.How did we trick the masses to willingly abandon the life of a Hobbit?
Damsel in distress in need of saving (or not).Doing shading on the sword sucked ass, and I'm still not really happy how it looks at the end.>>8078773I have a constant feeling of dread that the way I practice is fundamentally wrong and I'll just waste my time with no improvement.>>8078113Very volumetric, nice.>>8078085I was doing shadows with mech pencil, surprisingly went very well.>>8077914Is the most recent Naked Gun any good?
How do traditional artists check their color values?
>>8078859you can use a value chart to compare it against themor just take a photo on your phone and edit it
practicing some coomer art because why not
>>8078862I saved this, thought you might want to know
>>8078865thanks but its a low effort slop study, originally by agagaga (its a panel from a doujin, i cba looking it up)
>>8078863really good. Wow.What sort of master did you study. How did you learn this?
>>8078875Futafag is a GOD in 3d and 2d. He is even more talented than Mega
>>8078885I thought mega was the goat..
>>8078885You all overrate shitty gooner artists who draw incorrect values and spend 36 hours on ugly vulgar fetish garbage
>>8078894pyw
>>8078114this is what draw-a-box does to a motherfucker someone email this man Vilppu's book
>>8078894Mega spends a fraction of that time and deserves all of the praise he gets
>>8078885Shinkiro
>>8078904Wait it was for this guy>>8078875
>>8078894Post correct values, so we can learn
>>8078894trvke
>>8078777>then i add some greens and blues because thats what i remember a really good painter on youtube saidI do remember hearing something like that as well but I never know where to add them. What kind of places do you usually do it?>>8078626Woke up late today but I'll see what I can do. Perspective is still one of the things most inconsistent in my drawings so I doubt I could give you any good advice. I mostly freehand it but lately I've been drawing ellipses on forms during construction to help me remember to keep the perspective as I draw on top. Like if I'm viewing a torso from below, I'll draw the torso as an oval and put an ellipse under it to help me see its bottom in perspective.As for rendering I think you'll get much better advice from >>8078777 as he's way way better than me with lighting and form. The only advice I can really give is to understand the different types of shadow and keep them in mind as you go. Core shadow, occlusion shadows, terminator, that kinda stuff. I like the way Aleriia V does shading, maybe you'd find her tutorials on Youtube useful.>Do I just layer bock-outs with differing opacity? Or draw new layers with darker greys at full opacity?I don't personally do it this way so I have no idea if it can work or not. I fill out the form with its base color first, lock transparency, pick a shadow color and do a rough blockout of everything that's supposed to be in shadow, then I blend the areas that have more rounded forms while trying to keep sharp edges where it makes sense. A lot of edges that your brain naturally ignores actually have either brighter or darker tones than you'd expect them to, which contributes a lot to believability.
>>8078631NICEEE!!!>>8078626Pretty cool, Dune related? It would be quite tricky to do and anatomical "redline" for a sci-fi creature like that. At first glance you could say that his head and trap-clavicle-pec area is too small in relation with the rest of his massive body, but again, he could be just a bizarre bio-weapon creation.>>8078629I always like the hypnotically allure of your stuff>>8077781HOLY WOW.. I mean, I kneel>>8078113MORE OF THIS PLEASE!>>8078144This is fucking NICE! Yeah, death grip can wreck you if you don't acknowledge the issue. You just have to get into the habit of drawing fast and loosely even if quality takes a hit, health is the priority. You could develop horrifying conditions, extremely painful chronic conditions, you have to avoid that at all cost. And stay hydrated, dehydration wrecks your joints.>>8078415I really like her head!>>8078654YESSSS>>8078773COOL!>>8078856Ahhhh I love this stuff! That's guy's stance! lol!, amazing!
>>8078885You shut your mouth, Mega is the GREATEST (ever) talent on /ic/ historyHe'll be pro in 6 (8) months and will make MILLIONS of dollars
>>8078692Just make a good OC
>>8078951uuu time for judgment
>>8078113You should try and spend like 3x the time you usually do on a drawing
i'm so dumb for trying to paint with a gpen
>>8078998Are you this >>8078773 too?What program and brush are you using?
>>8078999no, i'm notCSP and G pen
>>8077524Today’s perspective practice
doodling before bed
Idk if I'm finishing this
Im not happy about this drawing, i fucked up the proportions and it looks really stiff, maybe i can fix that by drawing a sketch before going to painting.
>>8078998https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgH1OhCNQ4w
Somebody please tell me I’m GMI.
>>8079110pyw
>>8079110you are a glucose management indicator
so I have an issue i've been having a hard time figuring out, but how do I apply anatomy/figure drawing studies to normal stylized art? it feels like umless i'm drawing naked women or in a semi realistic style, what opportunities are there to actually apply these anatomy studies i'm doing? i.em in pic rel i found on twitter that I like, wouldnt it be better for my time to just study clothing or something, rather than how the muscles in the body work?im not trying to say it's useless to study anatomy, of course it's not, but I can't really figure out how people actually apply the knowledge gained from learning the figure
>>8079131blog?
>>8079131Bro. The image you posted is AI.
>>8079131I see AI slop. I ignore fast. Try again, idiot.
>>8079131Hmm so ai thinks its a better idea to make the character pop out of the frame >>8079066I will consider it for the next time.
>>8078626Tried my best but at some point I ended up redoing pretty much the whole thing in an attempt to get a better composition so I'm not sure if this is going to help at all. Also have no idea how to draw fat people. Sorry.
>>8079139I think that pose would work if the fat guy is an ogre or ork about to eat that head.
>>8079135>>8079136oh, is it?well my question still stands
>>8079144With how passive agresive you are i doubt your question was real.
>>8079147???how am i being passive aggressive, i didnt know it was ai, why does that mean my question suddenly has no value
>i didnt know it was aiYou're going to want to practice your visual skills before trying to stylize. If you can't copy accurately, or for Gods sake notice something that's AI slop, then you're not going to be able to accurately reference a style as your own.
>>8079149Are you the guy that screams i cant draw and calls me humblebrager? im starting to see why people leave ic so often.
>>8079066>>8079137Your work has a weird AI sense to it. Is that how you improved so fast?
>>8079151>>8079152why can no one here answer my question, it would have been better to just have no photo and have you guess what i was asking at this point
I did answer your question. Learn to copy accurately first.
>>8079157how does learning to copy answer my question about applying anatomical knowledge to stylized figures, particularly clothed ones?
>>8079155Is that why you made an ai copy of my image?
>>8079131>wouldnt it be better for my time to just study clothing or something, rather than how the muscles in the body work?If your goal is to draw clothed, pretty anime women like in the picture you posted, then yes I would say so. Clothing and gesture would probably be the most useful for you.
>>8079160>didnt deny itnta but im noticing
>>8079118Fuck you. >>8079125And you too.
>>8079164You are pathetic schizo, see you tomorrow.
>>8079168
>>8079168Not your schizo. Why dont you deny it? Nihu 2.0 moment?
RETVRN OF NIHU
>>8079161thanks anon, I still think I'll keep working on anatomy for a bit but it was a bit discouraging to recognize I'm not really going to be able to use any of this knowledge unless I pivot to nsfw stuffI guess I could always start doing stuff like this, it would give me an opportunity to draw the body without it being nsfw
reminder to hide all posts without imagesyes this one too
>>8079188me when im cumming
>>8079197Is that chucky?
Why even draw? The moment I draw something, Mega will do it better than me. And if I somehow manage to surpass him, he will get better than me 1 second later
I wish I had talent like the talented musclegirlfags so I could improve too
>>8079139getting the gut right really makes a lot of difference already. I massively minimized the section between gut and chest. I somehow cannot get the triceps right ever - need to study it. I'll work some more on it tomorrow, I was quite time-constrained today.>>8078951Eh, he does have some Baron Harkonnen going on, but I was just going with the vibes, not having anything specific in mind. Fat-muscular-cyber-zombie with no particular attachment to any design element. I widened his shoulders, increased the upper parts of the figure,... looks a bit better, but needs some more work.Great work as always, Peril. I like how it's never just a figure-in-the-void with you. There's always props, a setting, something going on. The chains are made with a brush?I am working on her ref as well, but I'll have to give it more time tomorrow. Some initial sketching done.
>>8079135>>8079136How do you guys know it's AI?The only thing I see that might imply it is the shorts, because they look overly detailed in comparison to the rest of the image.
>>8079066the shine-through effect is so good
>>8079038Your doodles mog me.
>>8079135>>8079136are you sure? Doesn't look like AI to me. Do you KNOW it?
>>8078956HOT
>>8079205The palette
>>8079211I'm not convinced, but AI is so advanced now, figuring out what is AI or not is a losing battle.Unless it is the obvious AI styles that Boomers generate.
>>8079208nonsense choices and strange artifactsquite obvious if you know where to look
>>8079208>>8079205look at this segment and really look at it. how do you not see the obvious slop. you can put a red circle over like 4 things that are melting or not naturally possible with how normal people paint
>>8079216Alright, I didn't pay attention to the watch. This is definitely slopped.
>>8078615>practiceof what?
m8s it's over
More painting practice. Values improved but blending didn’t. Hoping to improve both in next round with blue
>>8079226Of course it's over, you're not Mega
>>8079226Damn. Where you got that real shit from? I can only afford synthshit, being from the under-hive and all. Pass the tube already!
>>8079131>how do I apply anatomy/figure drawing studies to normal stylized art?Even stylized art has to, on some level, resemble reality as we perceive it. Even though every image is flat, we deduce volume based on the shape design, the silhouette, and various other qualities of the drawing. When certain elements are subtracted for the sake of style, such as a reduced value scale or a lack of texture, we still read these drawings as having volume by paying more attention to the shapes and the outlines. This is an innate ability - this is why people who don't know how to draw can still feel when a drawing is incorrect.Your understanding of anatomy, gesture, and perspective is what allows you to create convincing silhouettes and shape design from imagination.
>>8079229Are you mega?
>>8079229>>8079238Who's Mega
fug the tablet i wanted went up $200
>>8079242In this economy?!Back to pen and paper.Which one were you observing?
>>8079238No I don't have talent>>8079241The greatest talent in /ic/s history
>>8079244the Wacom MovinkPad 11. need something portable because sitting at the desk hurts my back.
well shit krita's text tool sucks and my hand isn't steady enough to manually block in the letters. what's the best image editing software for text stuff?
>>8079267that shit is gonna be terrible for your neckget an easel
First pixel art piece in years.
>>8079278You going for a portrait replacement pack? I dig the style
tfw no breast
>>8079278Really good.How is pixel art made? Do you use a brush that draws pixelated or do you draw normally then apply a filter/effect?
Stop being lazy, I say to myself as I do the lazy.
>>8079228Last round, def the best
>open 4chan>mogged to death>open x>mogged to deathits over
>>8079298I could barely bring myself to practice today, but at least I did a shitty half assed copy. Better than nothing, I guess.Holy Spirit.
>>8079290Honestly decent back drawing.
>>8079305it's not very useful practice if you don't have a decent base figure internalized (front, profile, 3/4 standing views)
>>8079307Makes sense. Well, I do figure drawing practice too.That said, I've sort of hit a plateau. My figures aren't that bad, but I don't seem to be improving if I draw more.I'm thinking of moving on to coloring and shading while practicing figures on the side. It seems much easier to reach a high-beg/low-int level than to go from low-int upward, so I'll try to get a low-int level in the other areas of drawing while slowly improving figures.
>>8079309Speaking of, is anime art good for value studies, or should I use real life references?
>>8079315>is anime art good for value studies, or should I use real life references?in the beginning you can barely see values and hues, doing any kind of value or color study will helpthe only thing to keep in mind is that the same way faces are stylized, the behavior of light is deformed in those styleshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMRvagbX8iA
>>8078615>>8079224of deez
>>8079038Giraffe neck
>>8078956Tits and face look cute.However I think the tail looks like it's a butt plug and the hips are a lil wonky in terms of structure
>>8079317Mfw when I have no talent
>>8079344Sure talent can give you a hand but what does matter is your volition to practice hard and consistently.
>>8079347don't bother arguing with the talent schizo
painted an apple before work this morning. medsmap is fun :)
Finished this one, not happy with the guy but at least it's complete. >>8078996Cute!
Trying to get better at lineart copying manga I like. Source is tonari no sukatoro OK okusan by Cupiko.
>>8079383Oh, I forgot to mention. I know I didn't copy all the hatching, I was mostly trying to focus on the lineart rather than hatching, but like how the hell do you even do that?
>>8079030do you practice perspective without vanishing points??? none of these lines converge in the right place an i havent even included the road
>>8079326Got it, thank you.
I CANT MAKE IT OUT OF PERMABEG WITHOUT TALENT.
>>8079394don't bother, ballpoint anon has a learning disability
Is there a resource that breaks down anatomy of various parts without going into turbo autismo detail about random shit that does not matter? I just want a breakdown of the big shape-defining parts, I don't see the purpose of knowing there's some random shitass tendon attaching to a bone when it's covered in 3 layers of muscle and is never seen outside of a medical illustration.
>>8079501tenten or weichun
>>8079504thank you
>>8079501Anatomy for Sculptors by Uldis Zarins
>>8079501Learning where tendons are is useful because muscles go from fat to thin towards the tendons. Knowing where the tendons are will let you know where your bumps and crevices should be.
>>8079309When you hit a plateau a good thing to do is to try to push past your limit. Try to come up with an idea for an illustration and try to see it through all the way through the rendering.Hopefully you fuck up and realize exactly what it is that you need to improve next.
>>8079470Every time he screams i get reminded that ic is a mental asylum.
>>8079501There is even a shitpost bot here.
>>8079527That's a good idea. Thank you.
>>8079470Ask Mega for his piss, I think you'll get 1% of his talent if you drink it, which should be enough to get you out of beg.
>>8079336kek true, didn't notice that last nighteasily fixable though, thanks
i want to impregnate a female
>>8079628Relatable.
Really happy with this WIP animation so far anons. Hope all of your studies are going well.>>8079376Soul>>8078629>>8078484>>8077942>>8077781I kneel
>>8079628Fag
messed up reference a lot
>>8077524lf level up feedback
>>8079677theres a lot of high contrast, unfinished stuff in the bg that distracts from the focal pointspend some hours cleaning up shapes
>>8079684yeah, i'd rather move on. i realized halfway working on it that my approach was wrong. because i was working with many layers, it was very difficult to fix any new mistakes i found. i mean, maybe if it was an original piece and not a study i would clean it up to completion.
>>8079678he looks GAYHOMOSEXUALlike he enjoys sucking COCK
>>8079690it's fine if you want to move on, but learn to use the lasso tool to solve issues without relying on layershttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GG019qhs5wgyou can also try approaches that makes it easy to test changes without complex layer setupshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQQUltvlk9E
>>8079306:D
>>8079699thats a girl
>>8079648Incredible work
>>8079729I don't believe it
Need help with this thing's neck.
>>8079849a cool idea with poor executionfind some ref (or make your own) and try again
Back again. Remade one of my dumb sketches from 9 months ago(right image if it was not obvious) into somewhat of a more chiseled thing. Seriously gotta learn to properly color/ texture still.Anyone got some tips overall for improving things?
>>8078169This looks straight out of a japanese artbook, like yoh yoshinari shit
I CANT FUCKING DRAW
>>8079827There's nothing wrong with the neck my nibba
>>8079882>tips overall for improvingget some basic theory and then copy accurately from art you like
>>8079887see >>8079563
>>8079889It doesn't look flat to you? Maybe I've been looking at it for too long.
>>8079203fixed some anatomy.I have the itch to move on to another drawing, though.
EldarStyle/tools experiments.
what we drawing today team?
new thread>>8079953>>8079953>>8079953>>8079953>>8079953
>>8079957fucking kill yourself
>>8079957are we at image limit? i just posted here man...
>>8079203>Great work as always, Peril. I like how it's never just a figure-in-the-void with you. There's always props, a setting, something going on. The chains are made with a brush?THANKS ANON! Yeah, the idea of an exciting and intense scene is what justify the drawing experience for me. The more dreadful the story is, the most intense it feels when drawing it, I can feel the vertigo while doing it, but it has to be super fast, this adrenaline rush doesn't last with elaborate painterly rendering.About the chain brush, There on picrel, you can see that the chain pattern of the brush doesn't have a high resolution, that's the down side of the brush. It comes in the "Lilly Mist's Special collection bundle", it's free and there's a lot of brushes. The few bush brushes that I use come in that bundle too. A quick search will send you to the bundle, it was in some Krita forum page I think.I try your figure, and I understood why you drew it like that, I had the exact same case of doing the head and chest much smaller than the rest of the body, even when I knew I was falling into that weird disproportion for some reason.>>8079912>>8079944NICE! He looks more solid and menacing, though the earlier one had that unique and weird "scary bizarre factor".>>8079849Pretty beautiful composition>>8079827Neck looks super cool>>8079737Nani?>>8079716SCARY!>>8079677I love her mouth and that upper left corner with the sky and the green bushy texture!>>8079648Fucking incredible>>8079290Excellent piece Monka! Wukon looking handsome as fuck
>>8079961not even close, he's retarded
>>8079963Do you use hard round for your lines? Insane seeing how clean your linework is every time you post.
>>8079957get fucked
>>8079967that might be the case, look at the plane change near the edge of the axe, it looks like it was done in a single stroke, see the tapering? to me it looks like hard round brush or gpen in csp. but idk man.
>>8079963is that his penis i can see hanging? >333sexy as always ehehehehand thanksies >33>>8079912kino
Range ban who don't post their work for 3000 days
>>8079967Yeah, that's just a 3px hard round. Here I re-posted the "set up" that I use >>8073134 BUT as this >>8079985 anon pointed out I'm using another brush to add some "line weight" to the drawing. I usually just post the simple "flat line" because I shitpost a lot of silly stuff and I need to be fast. adding that shapely brush adds a lot of time, but lately I leel like doing it, lol.>>8079985There you have in picrel the brushes, I'm using Krita, I know it's a limited software but I don't really need any more than that. Yeah I do single strokes, I leave many broken lines because of it. I close the lines later if I have to bucket fill something but most of the time I just leave the open lines. On picrel you can see that I "embellish" the hard round line with another brush, (if I'm the mood for that) lolI love your stuff anon, it reminds me to the sketches REIQ does, pretty fucking nice! Total Appeal maxing.>>8079988Yeah, that's his pee pee..He's very committed to his word and disciplined. Thanks!Cool posing monke!>>8079991It's their loss!>>8079948I used it as ref! Peak appeal!>>8079278BEST IN THREAD>>8079030I love this pieces with that 50s60s visual style>>8078956=) NICE CROTCH PIECE!
I CANT HAVE FUN
>>8080057do drugs
>>8080057I fuck you in the ass
I started reading/doing Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain, just got past chapter 4. I WILL get good at drawing this time.
request from /a/ with was fun.>>8079944cool work, magnet brushes are hard to use but I believe they are one of the most rewarding brushes.>>8079353great work>>8079542I don't think you are gaining much from this, try morpho simplified forms>>8078408its fine you just lack experience and tools, if you want to draw from imagination start with something simple, can you draw an apple? can you draw different shapes and still make them look like apples? As for the foreshortening you can check sycra video on spirals, its a nice tool to have.
>>8080083>>8080123What are your goals right now, anon?
dios mios..
>>8078148Is this from a book or something?
>>8080081>I don't think you are gaining much from this, try morpho simplified formsIt's figures. Shouldn't I practice figures?As for Morpho, I did the first and second books of the series, and the books are mostly sketches by the author or by other artists. I guess it's basically doing copies?I'm actually thinking on moving onto value studies and coloring as I mentioned before in this thread. I'll also focus more on heads and faces.
>>8080012i believe he is very disciplined :3do you think his pee pee will fit?thanskies btw >33 >>8080047cool
>>8080163i belive its from https://e-hentai.org/g/3043503/4cbf714640/''anime private school style character drawing'' its called
>>8080163>>8080194I'm planning to read that book. I've watched a couple of videos from the guy and he's pretty good at teaching/explaining.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7mQ-YlxYNc
>>8080226This is from just watching one of his videos quickly. I hadn't really drawn an anime head before besides copies.
I'm kind of lostI'm a pre-/beg/ that has no idea what he's doingI don't really know how to progress. I thought that just copying stuff i like would do a good job in terms of learning but i know now that im just imitating stuff without actually understanding it. Not only that, but the copying process is incredibly slow because of the fact that i don't understand what im doing or wanting to copy a thing "perfectly"I tried Morpho - Anatomy for Artists but i have to say that it's too hard for me. It just takes too long to copy and i burn out hard. I mean, i guess that's part of the learning progress to clench your teeth and push through but man it's toughDo you have any books or maybe courses or just anything that has a nice collection of each body part that is more simplified so i can grasp the general shape before getting into the big stuff?Maybe a general direction of what books i should study or how you guys got to where you are with what you studied. I feel like i have a choice paralysis when presented with all that material freely available in the linksAny help would be appreciated
>>8080244You're mogging me, though.I recommend Anatomy for Sculptors by Uldis Zarins.If you want anime style, I recommend this book >>8080194 for the heads and face. I haven't read it but I'm going to. For anime eyes specifically (which is a big feature in anime drawings), I plan to read "[Genkosha] Kirameku Hitomi no Kakikata", also available in e-hentai / exhentai.For coloring and shading, right now I'm going through Yejji's "High Density Coloring Course": it's pretty good so far.As for choice paralysis, I was in the same spot and asked AI. It told me a few books or resources thoroughly studied is better than many skimmed. That's what I'm doing, so I suggest you do the same. Just pick a few and stick to them until you finish them or really can't stand them anymore.As for Morpho, I would say they're more aimed at intermediate than beginners. The explanations are vague or short while the sketches don't show the points clearly. That's why I only did the first two books, though I might do the rest at a later time.As for the general roadmap, I'll copypaste what I said to an anon before.
Another day, another loomis drawing.Anyone have a rec for a cartooning book? I'd also accept caricatures. My inspiration is wren and stimpy, that is what I aspire to.
>>8080255>>8045022I want to draw beautiful works of art, which includes not only characters but also scenery such as nature and architecture and fashion.My plan is>Gesture>Body Anatomy>Face>Basic Perspective>Shading and Lighting>Coloring>Rendering>Fashion>Nature (environments, plants, animals)>Advanced Perspective>Architecture>Composition (how all the elements fit together in a single artwork)Something I have learned so far, though, is that all these things are ABSTRACTIONS. They do NOT exist on their own but work all together at the same time to make a drawing good. You CANNOT separate them or the drawing looks like shit, and that is why you must try to learn them more or less at the same time while improving each part.If you draw a gesture without anatomy, it looks like shit; if you draw anatomy without gesture, it looks like shit; if you draw color without light and shadow, it looks like shit; if you draw light and shadow without perspective, it looks like shit; and so on.So my advice is not to worry but focus on each part at a time, with the understanding that it will look like shit no matter what because you haven't still gotten a good grasp of the other parts.>This is sooo overwhelming. Too many resources up on video courses and books on the IC torrent>Any recommendations?Focus on a single work or a couple that deals in depth with each step instead of wandering around from shallow tutorial to shallow tutorial.I think I already got a good grasp over gesture, so I'll try to up my level by deepening my anatomy with "Anatomy for Sculptors" by Uldis Zarins.
>>8080244>>8080256I read "Minikyara no Egakikata" by Yumenouchi Chiharu for Chibi drawings. It was pretty good. The ironic thing is that I haven't drawn any chibis since I read it.Another anon also recommended these books:https://annas-archive.gd/md5/00c2b4c6493fb7440312cb79b5973094?&check=1https://annas-archive.gd/md5/8356685aac82de800907b62f652bd70e?&check=1
>>8080244It also seems like you're drawing traditionally. Traditional is a lot harder than digital, so I suggest going digital instead if you can help it.
>>8080256Forgot my drawingMy very first attempt at drawing a hand and I ate hot shit
>>8080184>I guess it's basically doing copies?NTA copies of other artists are extremely useful for learning how to draw. So useful, in fact, that you are basically shooting yourself in the foot by not doing them. Don't just copy out of anatomy books though, find artists you like, copy their work, and try to apply what they did to your own
>>8080267Yeah, that seems to be the majority opinion. Another anon told me copies aren't helping me, though. Kek.That said, Morpho's drawings are VERY rough sketches with little to no explanation of what it is you're supposed to focus on or copy. I don't think copying them is worth it.
>>8080256Jack Hamm, Cartooning the Head and Figure
>>8080081Looks really good. The front lower leg could have used more foreshortening and overlapped more since it reads like it's short.
>>8080256Famous Artists Cartoon Course
>>8080256Study the work of Basil Wolverton
>>8080260>Traditional is a lot harder than digital, so I suggest going digital instead if you can help it.nonsense. to work with complex stuff in color yes, but for scribbles like this digital more clumsy and not needed. you can use it but it will not "help" anything
>>8080283In digital you can press a button to undo, while you need to scrape with an eraser then blow or brush off the eraser crumbs.In digital you can superimpose and juxtapose and edit the sizes of the reference or your drawing to make sure you didn't make any mistakes.In digital you can change brushes and brush size and opacity quickly, quicker than traditional.And so on. What part of digital is clumsy?I didn't say it was needed. I said it was easier and better. There's no need to handicap yourself; you can go back to learning traditional once you learn digitally (which allows you to learn faster in my opinion).
>>8080286>n digital you can press a button to undo, while you need to scrape with an eraser then blow or brush off the eraser crumbs.>In digital you can superimpose and juxtapose and edit the sizes of the reference or your drawing to make sure you didn't make any mistakes.>In digital you can change brushes and brush size and opacity quickly, quicker than traditional.and it will help you how when you do scribbles?just draw your ribcages with ballpen. more easy to trace yes, but you can do other things
>>8080286learning with pen and paper is super underrated, especially because it forces you to not undo, pay more attention and start over quickly ctrlz is a curse for the beginner artist
>>8080272Thanks, anon. Yes, I should work on planning things better.>>8080184Yes, but I also feel like the way you're practicing is reinforcing bad habits. >>8080267 I'm with this anon. Copying masters and high-level pros is important. They've already solved the hard part of abstracting the real world into 2D. You just need to understand that abstraction.>>8080260Traditional is much better for learning. You don't have to worry about software, portability, etc. All you need is paper and a ballpoint pen. You'll end up drawing more traditionally than digitally.
How am I doing?
>>8080269>Another anon told me copies aren't helping me, though.Some people, usually those who don't actually draw, think this. It's pretty ridiculous though, master studies have always been a thing, and so many great artists from Da Vinci to Miura to Moebius learned how to draw by copying other artists
>>8080255>>8080257>You're mogging me, though.You're probably being humble, don't know which one are you, thank you though>If you want anime styleBut isn't it better to learn more realism first rather than starting from stylised art?Thank you for the recommendations, I'll take a look >>8080259Don't want chibi, but thank you regardless >>8080260It's actually digital, i just set a paper texture and more paper like colour as a default because blank, bright white screen hurts my eyes and makes my mind blank. The paper texture is way more pleasing
>>8078629more wip
How do i into coloring? I might have messed up on some of these drawings like the legs on the girl on the bottom but I want to try coloring these pics next. Right now im drawing using a pen and paper but i'm looking into coloring these drawings next. So if you can tell me what tools i need to make the drawing look like this >>8078304 lf possible anyway,that would be great! Thanks!
>>8078548
>>8080308well first off if you want to color like that guy you need digital tools
>>8080310damn, so i guess i can't pull off that look using trad tools then? I'll probably move to digital once i get good i guess. Guess I'll using coloring pencils or something. Anything else I can use?
After a hand injury and a horrible fucking heatwaved forced me to stop drawing, I am resuming drawing again and realised, I never actually learnt how to do gestures. I felt pretty run down today so I only did a few using references, but how do these look for gestures?inb4 "These aren't real gestures because blah blah blah"...that being said I am curious where else I should go from here, I had to try and overwrite my brains tendency to try and construct a body accurately rather than just capturing the flow of the pose.
>>8080315technically you could but its like 100x harder, and unlike digital you cant really erase or adjust the colors and use layer modes to cheat getting better colors and such. you would need to preplan everything in trad
>>8079131shame it's ai. I really like this pic
>>8080332>the power of just drawingCrazy to see your progress.
>>8080193>i believe he is very disciplined :3>do you think his pee pee will fit?You gave me an idea for a series of pics, I like this B&W style that I started now since inktober, is quite fast en effective for these "onesies". I wrote ideas for at least then of these.. he hehe..>>8080047This is fucking insane. AMAZING. How big is the original piece? It must be tiny.>>8080081Heh, look at her go! Pretty nice!>>8080123HOT!>>8079038COOL!>>8080332She's beautiful!
>>8080332bitch Y ain't got no S arms nugget
>>8080368
>>8080372Kek based.
>>8080372She's lacking something more than a couple of arms... y'know what I'm saying..
>>8080374i honestly do not
>>8080375SHE HAS NO FUCKING TITS
>drawings only look good when i spend a long time on them>as in 1 hr for a simple bust pencil sketchAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
i draw like a kid
>>8080327I'm interested. I don't know if i'll be able to pull it off but it sounds like it could be a lot of fun. What do I need to get started?
>>8080351i dig it too and hell yeeeelooking forward to it >333
>>8080379A talented prodigy kid like @Megasch_?
I started drawing seriously around a week ago. This is my most serious and effort/time consuming drawing so far. I really want to be able to draw Soul Eater characters and stuff. I've been trying hard to put respect on Okhubo's name when I draw but it's difficult because I'm very bad at drawing. Please help me understand what I did here and what I should do. Please help me understand what I did well and what I did wronghttps://files.catbox.moe/ehg6np.png
>>8080390link broke
>>8080392Here's a lower quality image so it can fit on 4chan
i refuse to spend any more time on this
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>>8080395You got the general idea down, but the angles and proportions are all off. Not even a bad attempt for your first week, though. At this stage the best thing to focus on is just your accuracy/observation skills, which can be trained directly but will ultimately come with experience (as in, you will need to draw a lot, probably way more than you think you do)This guide might help (you don't need to build the glasses)https://www.dorian-iten.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/AccuracyGuide-eBook-v02.pdfYou can do this toohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMX3K3YMbd8it can be done using tracing paper or a piece of clear plastic if you don't have a drawing tablet for digital. If you do this, don't do more than one or two a day or you might start to hate drawing.Also just copy more, go through every settei sheet, reread the manga while copying the pages, whatever you need to do to get more reps in. Try to be as accurate as you can, but don't get too hung up on one drawing for too long. You can always come back to an image and try copying it again later
>>8080395>Please help me understand what I did here and what I should do. Please help me understand what I did well and what I did wrongOriginal head is tilted down, yours is mostly straight. Your nose bridge protrudes too much in comparison, and your nose tip is too high / upward-pointing. Your chin and jaw line is too straight, the original's is rounder / softer. Bottom eyelid is also too straight, needs some curvature. The original's ear is round or oval, yours is squarish. Your neck is thicker and straighter than original's. Back of your neck also needs curvature or a slight depression. The third and fourth hair locks part ways deep into the hairline, while in yours they seem to join much below, so you would have either to part them further or to lower the eyebrow so the hair locks look parted.You need to train your observations skills. And that's why I say digital is better. In digital you could've just superimposed both to see the differences. With traditional, you have to guess.Made some quick shitty corrections here.Consider using the elements Dorian Iten teaches in his Accuracy method:Alignment. I.e., where things are in similar positions in the X or Y axis. For example, in your reference picture, the tip of the ponytail is roughly in the same vertical position as the third and fourth hairlock.Angle. The forehead line of the original is inclined to the left, but yours is almost straight.Measurement. The relative sizes of parts. For example, the tip of ear of the original is relatively small, giving it a round or oval shape, but yours is quite large, giving it a squarish shape.Implied lines or gesture. How the overall lines flow or the action the character is taking. The original's head is tilted down, but yours is straight looking forward. Pareidolia or negative forms. The shapes formed outside of given elements take. For example, in the original the third and fourth bangs create an empty triangle above the eyebrow, but in yours they cover it.
>>8080378Used to be the same for me. The first few times I drew figures, it took me 5 hours to draw barely decent one.However, the more I practiced, the quicker I drew them. First it was 5 hours, then 4, then 2, and now it takes me from 30 minutes to 1 hour.People say "just spend 1-10 minutes on one and drop it" but I don't see how that will help me improve. I'll just draw 6 shitty figures in 1 hour instead of a single decent one.
>>8080193>>8080351thanks! actually this is the reference, im having a hard time with the face, maybe it could be a thread challange sometime
>>8080383maybe look into what kind of different coloring tools there are first and what kind of look they end up giving, i think you either want regular coloring pencils or maybe alcohol markers
>>8080404>>8080408I see. Thank you a lot for taking the time to give me a response. This gives me a much more clear idea of what I should have done
>>8080427Pretty good. It has its own charm.
>>8080427reminds me of x.com/H939 one of my favorite artists
>>8078415would fug those bugs
>>8080427Belongs in the impressionist threadAlso this thread keeps getting worse
>>8078169>>8078505Very solid and appealing anon.Unfortunately you're in that upper-middleground where most people here can't really offer much, if any, constructive critique.>>8078413kek>>8077789>>8078615Good stuff, anon!>>8078657>40yo gfEven in your fantasies she will only ever be gf material.Grim.>>8078722Cute boy!
>>8080396you need to control your values more, otherwise you end up with that horrid shit on the face
>>8080452Thanks anon!
>>8078739>>8078740this better? i don't intend to go any further than this but i'm curious >>8078745>>8080452thanks
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>>8080395Proportions aren't too bad. You did a good job for a beginner.
>>8080416She's so cute. God I love women so much it's unreal.
got bored at work so I sketched some definitely not work-related stuff featuring no one in particular.
>>8080498hope you get her vro
>>8080388Alright, one more for you on this disciplined enforcers of the law. Since we are way past the reply limit, maybe I'll do one more.. I don't think I'll be posting these on a fresh thread>>8080416I see.. Yeah, she has that supermodel anatomy and facial features, the standard beauty pattern shapes get weirdly subverted. She has a very long and bony face. I think some big falling eyelashes can do the trick if everything else fails.>>8080503I love the translucent shirt!>>8080509COOL!>>8080498Bigger tits please!>>8080477SO COMFY!>>8080427Interesting use of the brush!>>8080396Nice colors! You just need to trim some of her forehead and a little bit of the cheek/jaw on the right side and it will be perfect.
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