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the answer is french, you should pick french

>What language(s) are you learning?
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previous thread: >>214171920
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my wife chino... I WANT TO FUCK CHINO
please chino is so cute my wife chino is so cute chino chan sex chino sex with chino i'd like some more kafuu chino sex with chino kafuu chino my wife cute is so chino wife
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Yes, everybody should learn French.
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>>214268261
>>214268440
The reason is not because we don't know how they're spelled, but because we type phonetically. We hear a word like "there" in our head and if we don't monitor our output with the thought of "which one?" then the wrong one can come out.
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>>214268698
is this the stereotypical parisian?
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worked out at the library today
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Pyccкий OR Deutsch ?

Both are challenging. But what’s the ACTUAL better one ?
All other languages I can’t seem to have a relationship with them. Except Hungarian or Czech but those are useless.
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>>214270175
Yes, they love Mohammad's cock
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>>214268698
Please use the updated version :
Mon ami, J'ADORE le savoir-vivre des parisiens, c'est MAGNIFIQUE, on se croirait dans un FILM de LUC BESSON ! Viens dans mon appartement Haussmannien (1670€ par mois dans le VIème), il a un BALCON FILANT de 4 mètres carrés ! On pourra boire un verre de Crémant de Loire ou trois, puis lire quelques bandes dessinées comme Astérix ou Lucky Luke ! Et mon ami, mon ami, MON AMI, on DOIT aller à l'anticafé – écoute moi bien, c'est un CAFÉ où nous, les adultes, pouvons manger du FROMAGE ! Du COMTÉ ! Du CAMEMBERT ! En plus de boire des cafés responsables sourcés directement du producteur par Thomas, l'owner ! MAIS ATTENTION !!! Écoute, ok, c'est aussi un ESPACE DE COWORKING, où on peut travailler sans enfants qui viennent nous casser les couilles ! À propos d'enfants, Louise et moi avons décidé que Mahmoud allait enceinter Louise. Je suis ravi de pouvoir cuisiner des bons petits plats pour ces deux tourtereaux. Au revoir mon ami, je viens de repérer une nouvelle boulangerie artisanale, juste à côté du vigneron indépendant !
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>>214269273
I think it's because people don't read much anymore. I doubt anyone who graduated from middle school in Britain or the USA in 1925 would write it like that.
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When Americans see a new word how tf they know how it is pronounced? I think I'll never be able to read English poetry without getting the rhythm/metric all wrong
Outside of French which language is worthy in terms of literature?
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French is like that one baddie. You know you won't have a future with her, but you also have a soft spot for her
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i heard somewhere the non english speaking countries that translate the most into english is japan and korea is that true? i thought it would be spanish or german
probably depends on the medium
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>>214271599
Italian is like that one normie girl ypu really like but who's too good for you
German is like that weird, spoiled friend who visit his grandma in your home town for every holidays and you play football together even though you don't have much in common
Dutch is like his also weird, but in the cooler way cousin whose parents give him a lot of freedom and waers sunglasses and a baseball cap and a T-shirt with flames on it
Japanese is like that one girl from different class or school you simp to and she barely know you exist
Scandinavian languages are like your neighbor's nieces who are a little older than you and you show off in front of them because they are neither unpleasant nor attached to you
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>>214271343
Not at all, and there's a psychological difference between typing and writing. Typing presents less of a barrier between thought and output than writing. I am well aware of the difference between "your" and "you're" or "to," "two," and "too," (pretty much any literate native speaker would) but I can easily type the wrong word because I'm not constantly thinking about the spelling of words when I talk in my head. I would have to add an extra layer of attention to prevent that kind of mistake, or I just have to review what I typed after the fact.
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>>214271180
Fixed
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>>214271459
we unironically don't know
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>>214271726
Merci mon ami
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>>214271645
I get it, so they're just sloppy. I almost always read through my responses or comments to spot typos or errors.
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>>214271343
I think you're conflating two different issues. Reading poetry in terms of the cadence, rhythm, and intonation is one thing. The basic pronunciation of words is another. Even native English speakers will be often unsure how to pronounce new words they come across in print. Maybe the pronunciation can be determined by analogy to other known words, but sometimes analogies can be misleading. And there is also the phenomenon of words having widespread "incorrect" or "uneducated" pronunciations in the spoken language (for example, pronouncing "impious" as im-PIE-us instead of IM-pee-us), so there is really no secure way to learn the pronunciation of new English words.
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>>214271459
This is why you have the phenomenon (specially in america) of having various pronunciations, especially of new words like mim and maymay (meme) and gif and jif (gif). I think i've detected some other inconsistencies like people pronounce renaissance as either reina-sawns or rené-sans
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>>214270918
I know both to a degree... both belong to declining empires, one is more familiar to you culturally and semantically (assuming you're not Indian), other is harder but you will be treated better for attempts at using it. I'd guess Russian is strictly harder because you'll be rammed by grammatical cases about twice as hard.
>>214271726
One question my friend. Did Attic Life interview you yet or have you eluded him successfully?
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Currently reading: 雨の日も、晴れ男
Just read the prologue for now and it looks easy. What are you reading?
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>>214271634
At this point, you're just making shit up.
>Japanese is like that one girl from different class or school you simp to and she barely know you exist
Japanese is like that girl from a different class or school you simp for, but who barely knows you exist.*
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>>214271852
If I'm typing a response on a forum like this, I typically (but not always) give enough attention to avoid that sort of mistake, but in a chatroom setting, I make those errors all the time.
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Do spain and latam have any cool cartoons? I dont feel like just watching translated anime
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>>214271935
>Did Attic Life interview you yet or have you eluded him successfully?

I'm a different Serb, not the guy you talked to last thread.
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i made that frenchjak years ago
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>>214272185
e jebiga onda izvini
>>214271962
this thread
I haven't read a book in years
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>>214271459
We don't know for sure, but with enough exposure we can make a pretty good guess. In the rare case where I really have no idea I'll google it the word see the IPA and listen to its pronunciation.
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>>214272054
hey that's my ancient script
>i'm sorry to everyone whose dads don't understand...
i'm missing letters here
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>>214271459
I've heard a few people say that you can tell when a person learned a word by reading or by having heard it in conversation (implying that the person who learned it by reading is mispronouncing it).
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>>214271459
>When Americans see a new word how tf they know how it is pronounced?
>When Americans
So this happens only to Americans?
>see a new word
Define new word, because I'm pretty sure you mean a word they don't know.
>how tf they know how it is pronounced?
If you're seriously asking yourself this I believe reading poetry is the least of your concerns. It seems to me you lack pattern recognition.
I very much doubt you can appreciate any language's literature if you can barely grasp the most basic linguistic knowledge.
>>214271618
>i thought it would be spanish or german
Spanish relies heavily on Latin and Ancient Greek borrowings, we could probably replace any English borrowing with one from either of those languages.
German, as far as I know since I don't speak the language, can mash words together to create a new one, so it's not like they need to borrow from English.
>>214272054
Most of them will be pretty childish, if you're looking for anything aimed at adults, you're out of luck.
I remember liking the following when I was a kid:
>Cálico Electrónico
>D'Artacán y los tres mosqueperros (Japanese-Spanish coproduction)
>Don Quijote de la Mancha (1979)
>Las tres mellizas and La bruja aburrida (original dub is Catalan, but it was also dubbed in Spanish)
>Marcelino, pan y vino (Japanese-Spanish-French-Italian-Mexican coproduction)
>Mortadelo y Filemón (I can't remember anything about the show, but the comic is legendary)

There's also the Chilean show 31 minutos, not animated, it's a puppet show, but I remember it being quite funny.
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>>214271599
this is so true wth. i want to learn it because it's beautiful but what the fuck would i actually do with knowing french? i know zero french speakers. but it's so beautiful and romantic..
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>>214272492
That's entirely correct, fortunately today you have resources (eg. russiangram.com) so you can even appear like you've had human contact before having learned a language
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I am trying to push through with German. I've been watching these documentaries on youtube with subtitles (in German) on. sometimes they are really beyond my level but I think it helps even to match up the spoken language with the words, even when I don't have full comprehension. this morning I watched Leben in der Platte about people who live in the east German Plattenbau apartment buildings. I also mix in some Easy German videos, as I aspire to be like Janusz.
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>>214268698
i was tempted to do danish
but the written and spoken are like 2 different languages

was tempted to do germanic laguages but i'm not tempted to read anything in german

now i'm stuck between

A. making myself a romance specialist with spanish,italian (maybe french cause i was almost C2 level 5yrs ago) including my native romanian

B. learning polish. which i love. polish sound magistral to me for some reason.

pick A or B for me lads
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>>214272597
>I aspire to be like Janusz
The only way to get to his level is to move to Germany. Or Austria or the right part of Switzerland.
>>214272709
What is with you Romanians and your love of French?
I say A. I do the same with slavic languages.
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>>214272916
I mean like Janusz physically and in his mannerisms. he is like a human Paddington.
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>>214272916
>What is with you Romanians and your love of French?
i dont love it desu
thats the reason i dont practice it
but i did it in school for 8 years then in college also cause i was already fully fluent in english and french was the only other option
and it was B2 wrote C by mistake.

>I do the same with slavic languages.
about this
i have a beef with russian
"our language is phonetic" while they write O and pronounce A
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>>214272499
Bri'ish pronounce everything wrong so I asked to the only native speakers that matter
>Define new word
I see that you you miss the pragmatics senor autism
>pattern
>english orthography
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>>214273286
Russian phonetics is batshit insane, yes, but anything slavic west of blyatland can actually be normally pronounced, from Ukrainian to Slovenian
It's not a big deal as you learn to do this O->A thing automatically if you know how the word is accentuated
From what I understand you balkanbros also fell a bit under the slav influence, da? :)
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need to do my daily 'lingo soon
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>>214273383
>Bri'ish pronounce everything wrong so I asked to the only native speakers that matter
Yeah, it's totally because of that.
>>pattern
>>english orthography
Yes, there are patterns you can follow. The fact you did not share any of the words you have trouble pronouncing is quite telling.
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>>214271459
phonics. not an end all be all solution but when phonics are taught to kid at an early age it gives them the building block skills needed to figure out letters put together sound, and next time they see a new word they'll be better prepared (or are able to) sound out how it should be pronounced.
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>language heavily uses noun + verb combinations to coin new verbs
based or cringe?
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>>214274086
Based only because the alternative is
>language borrows from another language, basically destroying itself in the process
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>>214274086
Cringe but very common
Verbs are usually quite resistant to change and loans
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=gXhtAMi7IKA?si=7MVpy2CV8g1bHKg4
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>>214271459
They use the Optimal English Pronunciation Model, so it goes:
0. we take American English as the basis, keeping its main features such as pre-nasal /æ/ raising and marry-merry-Mary merger etc.
1. the COT and CAUGHT vowels are merged to the rounded [ɔ].
2. the STRUT vowel is fronted and lowered to [ɐ] or even [ä] (they're really the same sound).
3. the TRAP vowel stays as [æ] and the OUT is brought closer to it as [æw].
4. no PRICE raising, both prise and price have [äj].
5. the GOOSE vowel is fronted to [yw], while the GOAT vowel stays back as [ow] or [ɔw].
It sounds pretty neutral and natural and is easy to maintain. Basically the two problems I struggled to resolve all along are solved:
1) there's no need to artificially elevate the STRUT vowel into a weird strange-sounding [œ]-like schwa sound to avoid its merger with the COT vowel,
2) and there's no need to either use the merged unrounded [ä] in pre-dark L environments (like in ALL) which sounds extremely weird as well nor to maintain the inconsistent distinction between the merged unrounded COT-CAUGHT vowel and the rounded ALL vowel.
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>>214274255
>Verbs are usually quite resistant to change and loans
Nothing changed in my native word for "throw", it only got superseded by "yeet"...
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कहाँ स्वीडश है?
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कहाँ यूनानी वक्ता स्वीडश है।
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Ok. It's French again, German or some germanic alternative, Japanese
>>214271599
>>214271634
And Spanish is like clothes old enough to be out of fashion, but not old enough to be fashionable again
>>214271989
Thx for correcting me. It actually looks better. About the languages, I like all of them. :(
>>214272587
God, there are these little pieces of French-related stuff here and there amidst the sea of shit, but these little things are usually so tempting
>>214272709
A. There's no reason to learn Polish
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youtube now recommends me French booktuber videos. and the auto-generated subtitles seem to work pretty well. truly golden age of learning a language without actually talking to anyone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLVCMP7jWc8
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>>214268698
>What language(s) are you learning?
Korean, mandarin.
>Share language learning experiences!
It just began. I think I can get the script down. It's like a puzzle.
>Ask questions about your target language!
None to ask at this time.
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Redpill me on the Spanish y/ll pronunciation. I know that some speakers use an (English approximate) "j" sound and some use an (English approximate) "y" sound, but I've noticed at least some Mexican speakers seem to employ both, even for the same word in different places. For example, a Mexican speaker that I thought I heard pronouncing "yo" as (English) "jo" all of a sudden says "yo" as (English) "yo" in "yo tengo hambre." I understand the idea of using one or the other, but what would influence the same Mexican to switch between the two pronunciations? Would someone who usually says "jo" say "yo" when they're speaking more carefully?
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>>214276611
Chads pronounce it like 'sh'.
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>>214275723
Do you learn franco-french or quebeco-french?
Recently in Paris I heard a Quebecker say "potes" for "pâtes" it was cute.
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>>214271180
No part of the humour is that it's badly written french
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>>214274086
not as cringe as using nouns for verbs directly. bonus points if there is a verb for it already but people still use a noun come verb instead

o gahd
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>>214272054
what does this mean?
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>>214277186
NTA but in Canada our classes, in English schools, are in Parisian French. I mean it makes sense, nobody goes to "Scottish English" class. Just learn the "English". Though Spanish language learning does seem to differentiate from Spain and LATAM. Odd...
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>>214277186
I'll probably just learn France French since that's most of the content. actually from what I remember we were taught this Standard French in school, I'm not sure about trying to learn the Quebec dialect without living there
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>>214275609
>A. There's no reason to learn Polish

how so? i consume plenty of polish media
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>>214276611
>Redpill me on the Spanish y/ll pronunciation.
Read up on yeísmo, almost no one today distinguishes between 'y' and 'll'.
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>>214277800
How so? I mean, we have some cool niche stuff, but I'm surprised
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How do you guys format your anki cards?
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>>214277850
Thanks for the redpill on that, but I'm not asking about a distinction between y and ll. I'm asking about a distinction between the same letter in the same word by the same speaker. For example, Andrea from Dreaming Spanish is in Mexico. I thought she ordinarily pronounces "yo" as "jo" but yesterday I was paying more attention to that and noticed she also said "yo" (with the English y sound). So I'm puzzled why the same speaker would say yo as both yo and jo, or llama as both yama and jama.
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>>214278495
Here's another example (I'm watching her now). She was making noise like she was being woken up and looking around in surprise (equivalent to English "Huh? What?") as (English phonetics) "ya? ja?"
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>>214278495
I'm not familiar with the people from that channel, but I've found that many Spanish speakers from the Americas have similar problems. Could be influence from English or hypercorrection.
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>>214278495
it's basically the same for adjectives, having the number of sentences be the number of principal parts or the adjective form (3 or 2). you can definitely add pictures and audio if it'll help. nouns just have their declensions shown and an example sentence; same with other pieces of grammar.
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i meant to (you) >>214278164
sorry
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Hebrew. I want to watch Prince of Egypt in all official languages it was translated and hebrew's the last one.
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>>214268698
i suddenly have a strong urge to learn french
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>>214274086
It feels cringe when learning those verbs, but that natives see the combined terms as their own unique concept with their own gestalt, separate from the core components. Like if I say "to babysit" you innately understand the action as a native speaker. You don't break it down into it's parts and figure out the meaning. You don't think of "babysit" as two words combined into one. It's just it's own concept.
This is a huge hurdle for language learners. You often never truly internalize terms like these because you can't help but see the parts rather than the whole.
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>>214278164
I mine anime so I have japanese sentence on the front and highlighted word + audio + translation on the back.
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when does this start to get unbearable
>10 new cards per day
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>>214280903
it never is people just whine about anki, I did as many as 50 new cards a day at one point it was boring but tolerable
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>>214268698
>TFW i wanted to start learning german but then i realised i have already read some grammar years ago so now my brain is premanently injured...
its over.... dream spanish without me bros
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>>214275723
German, Spanish, Italian, Dutch, Russian, Polish, and even Greek seem to have booktube communities too. Russian being surprisingly large.
however I see very little in Swedish.
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>>214270918
Learn Czech
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>>214282202
there is even a secular Egyptian girl doing booktube in Arabic, fascinating
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaDdNz426FY
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>>214277474
Where? Even in BC they taught us quebec french and that's about as far away from quebec as you can get
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What made you throw away Japanese? For me it was counters
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>>214271459
>I think I'll never be able to read English poetry without getting the rhythm/metric all wrong
>primary and secondary stress
>monosyllabic words can have stress arbitrarily to force a particular rhythm
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>>214278164
i download pre-made decks
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>>214285752
For me it's kanji and kanji readings
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>>214284478
in Ontario, I don't really remember well anyway but the other anon agreed
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>>214285752
losing interest in anime/manga
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>>214285752
On one hand it's hard as hell. On the other hand it's one of the few languages with a fuckton of content in all forms of media. I haven't given it up, but I acknowledge I will probably never reach a high level.
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I want to have perfect English, preferably with some British accent. But also with a rich vocabulary, being smooth in conversation, and with the ability to speak very quickly like J. Jonah Jameson from Spider-Man. Is this something I can achive with learning a second language at the same time if I already know English a bit, with a job and all that burden? I'm also considering choosing an easier second language so it won't be an obstacle.
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just give me a cute rice fairy please that's all I want
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>>214285752
Never did
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>>214285752
>counters
aren't those a thing you learn pretty early?
>t scared of getting filtered
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>>214285752
Seeing China on the rise and thus mandarin as more useful. But I wouldn't say "thrown away." Just tucked it in the closet for now.
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all Languages should capitalize Nouns like German does
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>>214288203
ich verzichte darauf, hauptwörter großzuschreiben
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>>214285752
>filtered by measure words
self burn

>>214288002
China has been on the rise since 2001 and Japan has been in the shitter since 1992 so you are a bit late on that
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>>214271962
Currently playing てにおはっfeat真美、マゾの悦び開放しましょ?.

First JP story I read was ネコがネズミを追いかける訳 a few years ago since it seemed simple.

http://hukumusume.com/douwa/pc/jap/01/01.htm
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>>214289301
Then it'll keep rising and I'm not "too late" for anything, bozo. Go brush your teeth.
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learning Spanish
it's going great
already dreaming about a hot latina wife will suck me dry and annihilate my mental health to a point of being admitted into the ward
thanks for reading my blogpost
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>>214289728
What are you waiting for? Download Bumble, set your language filter to Spanish and swipe away on Colombian au-pair chicks. She'll help you learn. Go for it now.
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>>214289786
im actually in a LATAM county already but here I get no likes, dunno why it shows Belgium as my flag
hoping once I know spanish more and start talking to women it's gonna get better
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>>214289855
>in a LATAM country
>I get no likes
Over for you bruv
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>>214289855
>im actually in a LATAM county already
Use HelloTalk premium to look for bitches learning English/your native language near you.
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>>214289883
quite fucking literally

>>214289933
alri thanks for the advice fellow connoisseur
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>>214289728
watching language videos has made me realize I love Latin people, not just Latin America but southern Europe and France, they just seem warmer and more charming than Germanics and Slavs
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Trump's bringing it back
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>>214289855
>get no likes
get off the dating apps. you get no likes because there's a 3-1 ratio of men to women and half of the female users are just there for attention and aren't even looking for someone
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final countdown begins
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god i hate western/english-speaking culture so much. I'm in such an immersion bubble that I'm physically here but mentally overseas. It's crazy how crass and shallow and intellectually neutered westerners are compared to asians
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>>214290474
For example?
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>>214290474
The good news is you never have to engage with anything created after 1960 because there's 500 years of Modern English culture where art and literature striving for beauty flourished.
There's a lot of languages where there's like one guy that wrote one good book and that's their entire cultural output lol. Be thankful you aren't stuck with that.
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>>214290172
Quando pugnator pugnam perdit, prīmum verba ē ōre suō sunt, «RECERTĀMEN VOLŌ» Suffrāgium ostendit quod Altercatiōnem vicī contra Sodālem Kammalam Harram, radicalismus candidatus Democraticōrum, Nocte Martis, et ea statim Disceptatiōnem Secundum vocāvit. Ea et Prāvus Iuppiter nostram Patriam perdidērunt.
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Made this for Korean, gonna make a ton of these
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYOfQLhkNx4
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My family is from a rare dialect of French that uses rolled/tapped r instead of the usual throat r. I was born with ankyloglossia, a tongue deformity, making rolled/tapped r's impossible for me. My parents got mad that I was speaking like a québécois and frustrated that a speech therapist could not help me. They sent me to English school while my brothers went to a French language school because they didn't want to hear me speak French that way. Nowadays, I haven't spoken French in 20 years and I hope I never have to.
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>>214288203
what if a language's script doesn't have uppercase letters?
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>>214286005
Were you in french immersion or just took french as an elective in high school?
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this is far too addictive for dabbling, I must stop. now I'm in Iranian girl youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igy5nUBd-no
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWnB_UK-k_U
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>>214290172
Capitalizing words that don't need to be capitalized is a sure sign that somebody is some kind of mixture of crazy and stupid. I started noticing it years ago before I quit facebook and I just can't stop noticing it. It is the preferred formating of the deranged.
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That's it, I'm learning modern Hebrew.
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Capitalizing WORDS that don't NEED to be Capitalized is a SURE SIGN that SOMEBODY is some kind of MIXTURE of CRAZY and STUPID. I started NOTICING it YEARS ago before I QUIT FACEBOOK and I just CAN'T STOP NOTICING it. It is the PREFERRED FORMATTING of the DERANGED.
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another DAY, another OPPORTUNITY
its time to STOP MAKING excuses
UP your HOURS
immersion IS king
there are NO shortcuts
trust THE PROCESS
WAGMI

having the biggest immersion month of my life by about 50 hours lads. last big one was may with about 140 and before that was october with 170. solidly passed 220 hours at the end of last week and have been chilling since. basically i did everything on my computer/phone on mainland china apps/websites. learned a lot from such an intensive approach.
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>>214294623
Farsi is quite easy. Not sure why you'd want to learn it though.
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>>214294819
>tf
>tp
shocker
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Thanks, I'll check them out. Any spanish media you enjoy then?
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wtf lol does this ever happen in your country
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>>214299365
I'm convinced that game developers want nothing more than to completely destroy their own products.
Yesterday I tried to play a game I have on steam in German, and it wouldn't launch because it has this "denuvo" bullshit that blocks me from launching it. Even though I own it legally.
Well today I tried downloading a torrent, installed the game and sure enough it launched without issues. If developers are trying to make everyone go back to pirating everything, it's working well.
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>>214299602
denuvo is steam's anti piracy software, right? so did it prevent you from launching it in german specifically or what
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>>214298919
The problem with Spanish media is that it is often aimed at a very specific target of native speakers, nevertheless, some films I liked:
>Airbag (1997)
>El crack (1981)
>La vaquilla (1985)
>La escopeta nacional (1978)
>Navajeros (1980)
>El pico (1983)
>Tesis (1996)
>El día de la bestia (1995)
>Rec (2007)
>El bola (2000)
As for shows:
>El ministerio del tiempo (2015)
>Antidisturbios (2020)
>Aquí no hay quien viva (2003)

If you were to input via literature, I'd tell you to pick pretty much any book from the 1500s to 2010.
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>>214299710
It's a third party anti-piracy thing that prevents you from launching the game unless all of its verifications pass, only a handful of games have it. This is the first time I've had to deal with it. I'm using linux but apparently everyone else is able to launch it on linux without issues.
The way it works is very opaque but basically you have to be connected to the internet, and it seems like if you try to launch the game too many times you get a 24h ban. Which means if you start tweaking settings and relaunching it you'll surely get a ban.
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>>214300144
And also it runs while you're playing the game impacting the performance because it's doing who knows what in the background. It's malware.
This is still /lang/ related because I wanted to input German yesterday evening and instead I wasted my time fucking around with this, which decreased my motivation.
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>>214299870
>it is often aimed at a very specific target of native speakers
Wdym by that?
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>>214300144
that sounds incredibly retarded, pirating is the right choice
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Took a two week break from language learning after studying my TL (Russian) a lot this summer. I'm just A2 but it feels like I have a relatively good understanding of how the language works now, and that the main thing I need to work on next is increasing my vocabulary. I love inpooting but guess I should start ankigooning too. Next goal is to be able to read гappи пoттep soon
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any spanish learners should watch Almodovar films
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>>214297877
mainly out of curiosity to see how familiar it is, since it's a distant Indo-European language
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>>214299365
Localization costs time and money, and since it's a live service game that pushes constant updates, it makes sense to cut stuff like this before you cut the actual important stuff.

I noticed in Cyberpunk 2077, the settings say "Mostly in Russian" because the DLC came out later and they couldn't hire the same voice actors because of the war. Instead of cutting it completely, the DLC content just shows up in English which breaks immersion which is not ideal but at least they didn't remove it completely.
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>>214268698
This may sound like a stupid question. But how I regain language learning momentum. I used to study Japanese and Russian daily during quarantine and still have a good understanding of both

But now anytime I try to learn a new language I am confused and have a lack of direciton, I don't have the momentum that was previously pushing me if you get what I mean

Does anyone have this issue?
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>>214303423
isn't it funded by amazon though? they could have done the same as with cyberpunk at least
luckily, the game is available in castillian spanish, which is what i'm learning anyway, so i'm playing it in that because i cannot stand american voice acting at all
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Who do you learn your TL for? For me its her
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>studying german
>oh another abstract noun i've never seen before
>another verb whose root I recognize but now randomly has a prefix
>reading a sentence that I think I understand, get to the end, there's a separable prefix
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Someone give me some good Korean content for an absolute beginner (A1) please.
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>>214271180
>coworking
>owner
It trigger me beyond what is reasonable to suffer seeing frogs use random anglicism. Québec truly is the last bastion of French.
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I'm reading Harry Potter and Guards!Guards! in English. I have the impression that the Philosopher's Stone is more demanding. Maybe I'll try it with Lute for better and quicker results
But I still dk what to learn as a second foreign language.
Japanese, German (alternatively Dutch or Swedish or Norsk) or French (alternatively Italian or Spanish)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUjQuC4ugak

I hardly follow her pronunciation if I don't concentrate enough. What might be wrong with her accent? As a Korean, it would be helpful for me. I'm not sure if she's Korean American or has just moved there. And it was easy to figure out her accent, even though I didn't see her face at first - I played the YouTube video like a radio, while doing the dishes.
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>>214305786
https://comprehensibleinputwiki.org/wiki/Korean
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>>214305786
http://두루책방.com/
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>>214307396
idk if this the correct terminology, but it seems that she's occasionally slurring her constants. like she's not wrong everytime, just enough to annoy you.
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>>214300400
Bottom of the barrel, dimwits and normies.
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>>214307758
Thanks. I might want to practice her full speech in my own way
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>>214303724
>But now anytime I try to learn a new language I am confused and have a lack of direciton, I don't have the momentum that was previously pushing me if you get what I mean
probably because you're starting from 0 rather than having something to keep working off of, like russian or japanese.
>But how I regain language learning momentum.
idk, discipline and dedication?
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why does Mongolian sound so soft and gentle. and why is it written in Cyrillic. such an odd language
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7jsusxaiVY
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>>214308969
it sounds like a slavic language mixed with thai
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मुझे शीटालीयाँ पसंद नहीं है।
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How tf a postposition mark a direct oblique object when it is supposed to BE A POST POSITION THAT ALWAYS MARK INDIRECT OBJECT
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All anuvad to Hindi should be literal translated
>mera matalab
Should be
>my meaning
Not
>I meant
This is incorrect
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>>214268698
Honest question... why has nobody invented a way to subliminally learn a language? It seems like something that should have been invented by now. I'd love to learn Portuguese but I'm too busy maintaining my Russian, improving my Spanish. So what I really want is to listen to Portuguese (Brazilian)while sleeping and just learn it. How close are we to that? thanks
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>>214313932
there is a German scammer on YouTube who is selling a watch that he claims will let you learn a language 80% faster by transmitting something through your skin
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>>214314121
Anyone who falls for that deserves what they get.
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>>214308969
written with cyrillic because of the r*ssian orc colonisers
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>>214313932
>subliminally learn a language?
Not a thing, just as you did not learn English subliminally as a child you can't learn any language in that way
And no, language chips to read into your brain will never become a thing either.
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>>214313932
You can try this method.
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Please come to Sverigetråden and learn Swedish
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>>214316082
>>214316082
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Can I learn Norwegian and Swedish at the same time before deciding to focus on one of them? Just like with Spanish and its continental and American variants, or with Portuguese.
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>>214317685
Is there a decent Anki deck based on frequency with audio and example sentences?
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>learns every language ever
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portuguese language
>we don't say "going to go" the way people do inglês
also portuguese language
>é melhor irmos indo
>vou andando
-_.
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In your native language and/or your target language:
1. Are there separate words for types of rooms? For example, in German there is an intrinsic difference made between "Raum" (which can also be translated to "space" - in the context of a room, however, the word describes a room in a very objective way, a space enclosed by walls with a ceiling above, like the rooms of an office for example) and "Zimmer," which is specifically a room of an inhabited house, such as a living room or a bedroom.
2. This might be more interesting for European languages, but non-PIE perspectives would be interesting to hear about too: How is the word "people" handled? In English, for example, you know there is "people" as a plural word, similarly to how there is "люди" in Russian (and equivalents thereof in other Slavic languages), "Leute" in German (and similarly in other Germanic languages), and so on, while there is "person" for just one.
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>>214320189
in English, just thinking about rooms of a house, they are all words that relate to the function of the room and not the quality of the room. In other words, I don't think we have any names for types of rooms that can also be used for
more general types of rooms.

in my TL, you have the generic word for room (sala) which is most typically used for a room in house. But it could also just be a general room in any place where the room has no proper name. Like a meeting room in an office. And also of course different types of rooms have proper names (cozinha) or they can be just "room + of + function" like "sala de estar" for living room

for 2
in english, you can say "people" which uses plural verbs, and even "peoples" which also uses plural verbs, to refer to multiple collections of different groups of people that are being lumped together

in my TL you can say "gente" which is singular, but often includes the speaker in the group

you can also the plural of person (pessoa / pessoas) to describe people or types of people. This uses the plural for verbs when it's the subject.

But I think you can also say "povo / povos" in the same way you can say "people / peoples " in English.

Compared to English I suspect PT has more collective nouns. Like "a rapaziada" to refer to "the group of young people"
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>>214320189
We use "folk", which for the most time is used like "people" or "Leute", but can also be used like the German "Volk"
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>>214318344
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Frequency_lists/Swedish
svenska.se has audio for a gorillion Swedish words
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>>214320189
1. First one is "pomieszczenie" in Polish. This sounds somewhat technically (?), for example when describing a building for rent. Literally, it's a space where you can fit something. Sometimes we use the word "przestrzeń", lit. a space.
Second one is just "pokój"
2. Ludzie - people, plural
Człowiek - a human
Człowieki - people, plural, but it's an incorrect colloquialism, often used ironically or for a joke
Osoba - a person
Osoby - persons
Lud - the people, often as common folk
Ludy - peoples, often used instead of nations
Ludzina - singular, a derogatory colloquialism suggesting someone who only resembles a human being; the ending refers to meat, such as pork (wieprzowINA) or beef (wołowINA). Also used in the context of describing cannibals
Ludowcy (plural) or Ludowiec (singular) - someone who is close to and on the side of ordinary people
Ludzkość - humanity
Gawiedź - crowd
Ziomki - plural, some familiar, connected to you people, like friends or neighbours or coworkers. Ziomek is singular
Wiara - as above, a group of people who are close to each other, but it also means faith or confession (like wiara katolicka - catholic faith). Originally it probably meant a group of people we believe in and trust, we have faith in.
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>>214311825
This is there to avoid confusion.

>मेरा मतलब इटालियंस से था

Here it uses a possesive pronoun "मेरा" due to the fact that **मतलब** is a noun, not a verb atributing to the pronoun, and the noin is being possesed by the sentence subject, if otherwise it was followed by a verb the noun should bein nominative case, first person singular **मैं**
Other example :

"मुझे ठंडा पानी पसंद है"
Incorrect anuvad : I like cold water
Correct anuvad : To me cold water is agradable

Here the auxiliary verb is not first person, because the grammar subject is **पानी**, not the noun, the non-literal translation of those senteces may cause confusion.
By the way
>मुझे
Is a datative case pronoun due contraction, that is why it works as the logical subject.
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>>214268698
GUIDE on how to pronounce German 'ich' (I)
Ich [Jç] (German Standard German)
Ich [Jx] (Swiss German)
I [i]/[J] (Swabian, some Alemannic, some Austro-Bavarian)
Ik [Jk] (Northern/former Low Saxon regiolect)
Isch [Jʃ] (Rhine-Franconian accent/dialect, optimal if you can't pronounce /x/)
Isch [Jʃʷ] (migrant German, with rounded lips, if you want to sound like a retard)
Esch [ɛʃ] (Moselle Franconian, including Cologne and Luxemburg)
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>>214323805
4chan rendered all unstressed [i] symbols as 'j'. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near-close_near-front_unrounded_vowel
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>>214321983
Thanks, but I wanted something high quality and premade. It takes me a comical amount of time to make new cards manually with everything that I want, but I guess it can't be helped.
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[χ] hurts my throat
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>>214324486
just use a softer [x] instead of [χ], no one will notice
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>>214305794
You're the last bastion of Scottish and Irish niggers larping as french
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>>214313932
>while sleeping
The problem with that is you already learn languages and all kinds of other shit while sleeping.
Whatever you do during the day is only half of the learning process, maybe even less. The rest is processed while you're sleeping and dreaming. This is why if you don't prioritize your sleep and get fewer hours of it, you learn things more slowly.
But you can't learn something new while sleeping, because sleep is when you internalize the new things you learned during the day. Trying to use sleep to learn something new is doing it wrong.
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germanbros, can you tell me if this girl is a native speaker? does she have an accent or anything?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sE5WWZQoe0
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>>214325286
no accent. she speaks very neutral northwestern standard german
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>>214325424
thank you friend
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>>214283607
This language feels SO HARD though…. Love it but scared af to try it
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ČEŠTINA !!!!!!
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>>214325911
Try it you fucking pussy
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>>214325911
you're not a real white man till you learned a Slavic language
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>>214327230
Left = learn with text
Right = anki

Correct?
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>>214327230
I’m trying to find a teacher to guide me, I don’t believe in self teaching a language. Nice pic btw
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what do you guys think of this autistic Turkish girl who supposedly knows 10 languages
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ramN4jS4hDc
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>>214327343
Not a dude so I get +10 point if I can actually manage to A1 or understand how to conjugate
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>>214328511
Listen here little baby. You're gonna get a lot of hurtful and degrading comments, but that ain't what I'm about. Let me just say, you are perfect the way you are. You hear me sugar? PERFECT. Don't ever change. You deserve anything and everything you want. Stay safe for me, baby girl. >mfw thinking of you hurting
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>>214327436
that's Lute. this is lwt.
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I hate textbooks that have the native script + transliteration right next to each other. It's impossible to learn the new alphabet, because my eyes immediately focus on the latin text.
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>so next we are learning Polish
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weird Iranian tomboy gf...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qrQCYNXP9o
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page nein
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>>214329897
>Your Duolingo Account has been created!
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>>214327605
99% of people in this thread are self-teaching themselves a language, multiple languages even. What do you think a teacher does that is so special that you couldn't figure out on your own? People with your mindset typically don't get very far in this hobby.

>>214328511
Are you cute or a femcel? You could always get a Czech boyfriend or a simp to guide you and teach you every step of the way, and then you can marry him for citizenship lol
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>>214328679
Pathetic simp.
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I am not very sexually attracted to the men who natively speak the language I am learning (japanese). Maybe I should have tried polish or russian.
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>>214334539
are u girl
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>they are all words that relate to the function of the room and not the quality of the room
Oh, that gets done additionally in German, so a living room would be "Wohnzimmer" (from "wohnen" - to live somewhere), although where I'm from it's called "Stube," which technically describes a parlor. I was more getting at the fact that there are words with different roots for different types of rooms.
>"sala de estar" for living room
Interesting. In Spanish, "sala" seems to mean the same as the loanword "Saal" in German: a hall.
>in my TL you can say "gente" which is singular, but often includes the speaker in the group
Same in Spanish; it really surprised me that the word is singular. I mean, there is "a people" in English, like you said, but that seems to follow the English logic of collective nouns (to a degree, people also seem to say things like "The police are arriving." where the collective noun stays unchanged, but is treated like a plural because you are semantically implying a group of people).
>>214322285
That's really extensive. "Ocoбa" exists in Russian aswell, but I don't think I've ever encountered the word. It's really neat that it basically means the exact same as "individual," seeing as how "ocoбeнный" means special or unique.
>Lud - the people, often as common folk
Is this very different from "naród"?
>>214321015
Also, when addressing a group of people, I've heard people say shit like "Hei folkens!" kek
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>>214327230
"a" meaning "and" in the truest sense in West Slavic languages will never not be confusing to me
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>>214325911
Don't be a pussy
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page ten?!
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>>214335353
>ocoбeнный
We have "personal" like "my personal opinion" and "personal dignity."
"Personality" means some special person, like a celebrity or some respected figure.
>Lud
Kind of different. It can be used as "nation", but usually not in the context of modern nations, but rather cultures, languages, often if the text is styled as older (like in historical dramas), in the Bible, so it's a bit archaic I guess. Always as "lud of X". But in modern, often political context it's more like common folk, to distinguish between common folk and the elities. American "We the People" is translated as "My, Lud". It also has some historical sense, because for hundreds of years the nobility and elites were something supranational, or even against the nation, like in Poland. We have a national idea closer to the French or the Americans.
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>>214334181
It's a copypasta
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I think there's someone here who will like this.
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>>214339649
I sometimes watch her but usually only the first half until she starts playing something. There's much less inpoot when the game starts.
Do you participate in the chat?
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>>214339757
>she starts playing something
Same but it's not "something" it's valorant, it's the only thing she plays on stream.
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>>214339856
I've seen her play Fortnite
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>>214339649
yo isn't that the girl from dreaming spanish
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>>214340248
No, that's my wife.
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>>214332536
they... they get paid to know what a noun is! this post has left autodidacts in shambles.
i still don't know what an adjective or a verb is.
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>>214329046
Ah. My mistake then. Does lwt/lute work? Seems like you have to know the language already to get the value out of those kinds of programs.
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>>214332536
>this post is making me think i should ditch my 9 euro per lesson teacher
feels bad man
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>>214327605
Go to Czech diaspora events irl and meetup.com for language exchange events
>you should only learn by reading
is a cope
you need to talk to people

Go to /v4/ as well there are some Czechs there
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>>214340853
It's just a tool that facilitates learning to read through lookups, tracking the words you encounter and optionally exporting them to Anki to do reviews. It gets the job done and you can absolutely start on day 1, provided you find basic texts that you can handle.

>>214341602
Yeah, you should. You don't need to pay someone to spoon-feed you stuff from a textbook. Save your money for when you git gud and you just want to practice speaking. Tutors are pretty good at giving you feedback and corrections.
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What language should I learn after Greek and Turkish? In the past I dealt with Italian, but never went far with it. I also hate Italians and nowhere was I treated as badly as in Italy. I already speak Russian given that I'm Russian. Furthermore, is there a list of literary corpora by language rated by their respective size? Thank you
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>>214342178
the sad thing with my teacher is that he's extremely knowledgeable and a pretty good teacher, but his knowledge is mostly about very technical and specific grammar that, while interesting, is not all that valuable to me anymore. Really all I want are conversation partners and have those now "for free" by living in the country of my TL so...



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