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Is it true that hebrew uses those little dots as vowels, but modern jews just ignore them and basically write like;

S t tr tht hbrw ss ths lttl dts s vwls, bt mdrn jws jst gnr thm nd bsclly wrt lk ths?

Why? Are they stupid?
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the dots are a modern invention
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>>214433579
The dots are a thousand years old. I'd hardly call that "modern".
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>>214433550
idk i just write like this
אני כותב ככה כרגיל אין לי זמן לשטויות האלה, צריך מנת משכל מאוד גבוהה בשביל לקרוא עברית
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>>214433618
Compared to 3000 year old Hebrew? Pretty modern desu.
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Awful strange how many languages don't survive, yet some manage to apparently "survive" for thousands of years...
Minoan language (linear A/B)? Sorry, we have to rediscover it.
Egyptian hieroglyphs? Sorry, we have to rediscover it. Many such cases.
But when it comes to Hebrew? "Ah, yes, of course we remember"...If language and religion go hand in hand, and a group, or someone, wanted to antedate something...Hmmm...Who can know all the whacky ideas that must have occurred to certain people at the onset of printing press' influence.
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>>214435888
both of your examples are Bronze age. Hebrew is Iron age. The Bronze Age collapse was basically apocalyptic. No culture from that period truly survived.
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>>214435937
Yes, I can 100% believe the no one would give a shit about remembering how to speak Egyptian.
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>>214435978
Modern Coptic script is basically a direct descendant of Ancient Egyptian script. Hebrew used to be a liturgical language that no one had spoken until the Israeli government artificially revived it.
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>>214435978
well do you care about how nubian sounded?
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>>214435978
coptic speakers still exist anon
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Yes, very clever, point out various "whataboutisms", fact is many Hebrew ( through things like the Abrahamic religions) has been around for a while (and, yes, you're now itching to point out things like aramaic. Stay in the dark all you want.
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>da jooooos erased all the languages o algo
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>>214436146
you could just make the argument that hebrew is a conlang and move on anon
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>>214436146
(Where as other things, for some reason don't stick around, and their associated beliefs left to who knows to remember)
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>>214433550
Yeah, those little dots are called nikkud, and they’re basically training wheels. They were added a thousand-plus years ago by scribes to lock in how the Bible should be read. We don’t actually need them to read modern Hebrew any more than you need to buy a vowel when you see txt msg in English. You’d lose your mind if English kept little marks everywhere telling you ‘a’ is short here, long there. We just cut the clutter.
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>>214436160
thats not what it means
people just noticed you can still read the language without writing the nukkud so it got popular and is the default not. its no different to other languages gradually changing as many people make the same 'mistake' to the point where it becomes the language
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>>214436782
now*
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>>214436782
I’m commenting on the kiwi’s retarded takes, Schlomo.
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>>214436813
I am technically not kiwi. But to respond to your post, it may not have been the "jews" themselves who did it, but, yes, the experience the human mind goes through is very curated by various ideologies, regardless of the technology of the era.
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>>214433550
Arabic does the same thing more or less but if you ignore them then it becomes unintelligible for 80% of people
The progression of reading arabic is usually with tashkeel (what the vowel lines are called, the dots are used in arabic to differentiate certain letters like ق ف or ن ت ث) then without it which most novices find hard to do correctly. If you're masochistic or want to read certain ancient texts you can learn to understand texts from the context without any dots or tashkeel
I think jews just found a way to be ergonomic or to convey vowels without needing an entire section in their education just for diacritics
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they inveted the language as a very elorabarate larp. don't try to make any sense of it, you can't
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>>214436020
Not even remotely correct. Jews wrote plenty of books in archaic Hebrew. The only difference between the archaic version and the modern one is the inclusion of foreign terms and words in Latin and Greek.
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>>214437944
Wrote books. Not spoke it daily. Newton also wrote his works in Latin.



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