Japan or Italy, which one has better: >Nature>History >Food >Cinema>Music
>>214571922>NatureNot even close. Italy wins. I hate unstable 4 seasons and snows>HistoryItaly wins, as a Korean. Japan invaded South Korea. Also roman empire was kino>FoodItaly wins. Pasta could be considered a proper food for Ronnaldo>CinemaI don't know>MusicPersonally, Japanese music. Fishmans, Nujabes, Sheena Ringo, Ichiko Aoba, Boris..
italy!
i'm only a moderate weeb, so Italy
>>214571992>musicGianni Morandi, ricchi e poveri, al bano and Romina Powell, Pavarotti.>cinemaSpaghetti westernsIt was over before it even started for Japan
Japan for sure>WhyIgnored
>>214571922JapanItalyJapanItalyItalyTo even things out, I'll say Japan has the more functioning society too
>>214571922>NatureItaly has never struck me as a very beautiful place when it came to nature so I'd say Japan>History Italy obviously lol. Magna Graecia, especially Syracuse, the Romans, the Italian middle ages and the Renaissance are all great.>Food Italian. Love that sloppa>CinemaI don't watch movies.>MusicI listen to more Japanese artists than Italian ones so Japan it is.
the only kinda curves gooks can get are photoshopped next to their ugly flat faces
>>214571922Italy,Italy,Italy,Italy,Japan
>>214572108what is your favorite musci anon?post some youtube links
>>214572093>Magna Graeciano fucking clue wht this shit is
>>214572116Greek colonies in Southern Italy
>>214572142you think that history is superior to the history of the tokugawa shogunate?
>>214572015I need some weeb opinion to even out Italy is winning to much it doesn't seem fair
>>214572175I think that Syracuse is super cool and unironically has the best history of any Greek state and Greek colonialism and the later Pyrrhic war is awesome, so yea.
>>214571922I hate gooks so Italy of course
>>214572207>I think that Syracuse is super cool and unironically has the best history of any Greek stateTell me about it. From school I only remember Archimedes machines and that Alcibiades time there, not much compared to the greek cities
>>214571922I was in italy for 2 hours on a lay over wait and I nearly lost my virginity to a cute redhead italian chick.So I am picking Italy.
>>214571922italy mogs japan in everything but theyre destroying it rn
>>214572347>I was in italy for 2 hours on a lay over wait and I nearly lost my virginity to a cute redhead italian chick.how the fuck
>>214571922nature -> italy. the weather in italy is insanely nicehistory -> roman empire wins without breaking a sweat. japs spent 5000 years just fucking each other in the ass until like 1850.food -> japan got better food. italy has a few dishes that they do INSANELY well and they would clearly win if it was only about like 5 dishes but all italians do is eat the same pasta or pizza built in a slightly different way. instead of carbonara (eggs, guanciale, pecorino) they might eat gnocchi alla romana (eggs, pecorino, butter). italy loses in the variety departmentcinema -> japan. i never watched an italian movie in my life because their cinema is irrelevantmusic -> italy win if you consider classical music. otherwise, japan
>>214571922Do Italy make cinemas these days?
im voting with my hearth. so italy
>>214572321Mostly from Diodorus Sicilius and Plutarch. Timoleon went through an entire political upheaval, he raised a small mercenary army to end up defeating the far larger force of the tyrant Hicetas. Plutarch basically praises him as one of the best men ever for his military deeds and his restoration of democracy in Syracuse. Agathocles succeeded him through more political turmoil after Timeleon died and he decided to go square off with the Carthaginians he beat them in Sicily and decided to invade Africa to their horror and while it started off well, it turned out trying to fight a superpower with everything on the line was something he couldn't afford so he escaped back to Sicily. He was the first person to actually make war on Carthage so seriously before the Romans
>>214572422Just rizz bro.I got her ig and number but sadly the next destination she had to stay and I had to catch another flight to head to the US.Never in my life have I ever had such a good string of irl speech checks.
>>214571922>>NatureJapan. It seems to have a lot more diversity.>>HistoryItaly, no contest.>>FoodItaly, no contest.>>CinemaJapan and Italy are pretty evenly matched here, but I'll give it to Japan.>>MusicItaly, no contest. Who is the Japanese Palestrina or Rossini?
>>214572367>theyre destroying itwho are they?
>>214572113https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUAnU1A38eclyrics:赤いキセツ 到来告げて今 俺の前にある軋轢は加速して風景記憶 妄想に変わる気づいたら俺はなんとなく夏だった赤い髪の少女は早足の男に手をひかれうそっぽく笑った路上に風が震え彼女は「すずしい」と笑いながら夏だった透きとおって見えるのだ狂った街かどきらきら気づいたら俺は夏だった風景街の中へきえてゆくはいから狂いの少女たちは桃色作戦できらきら光っている街かどは今日もアツレキまくっているとにかく オレは 気づいたら 夏だった!!透きとおって見えるのだ狂った街かどきらきら気づいたら俺は夏だった風景街の中へきえてゆく
>>214572433>cinema -> japan. i never watched an italian movie in my life because their cinema is irrelevantClueless mong, Italian Neoralism influenced and completely changed how movies were made, were it not for it the French New Wave would never happened >>214572486>Nature>Japan. It seems to have a lot more diversity.Disagree, Italy has just about everything
>>214572456I'll have to read it up because our education on classical history didn't pay much attention to the colonies if not in relation to mainland greeks or the romans later
>>214572487italians
>>214572093>Italy>Manga Graecia
>>214571922They should have sex
>>214571922>NatureJapan.>HistoryItaly hasnt caused enough butthurt around the world for the past few centuries so Japan. But If I consider old times, Italy ofc.>OthersIdk
>>214572533>Italy has just about everythingDoes it have something like this?
>>214572649more greeker than you
>>214572782Not part of the Italian history, though.
>>214572649yes? Last time I checked south italy is italian, half slavic pleb
>>214572792What do you mean? The Greek roots of southern Italy were acknowledged and loved since the Roman times (plenty of Romans were Greekboos).
I prefer Japanese nature, Japanese history, Japanese food, Japanese cinema, Japanese literature and Japanese musicItalian history is quite overrated
>>214572740It might seem shocking for an australian used to living in a desert but yes, almost every country has forests
>>214572896That's a rain forest. And like Japan, Australia also has them, and Italy does not.
>>214572876Because you're a retarded weeb that lacks a classical education.>Matsuo Basho is a superior poet to Dante!Get a brain.
>>214571922italy manitaly influenced the entire world and continues to do so while most of japan's history is being isolated then getting their shit kicked in and humiliated
Gio hit the wall in a GRIM fashion. She'll be an obese nonna by the time she's 25.
>>214571922JapanItalyJapanItalyJapan
>>214571922we're on par>Natureboth countries have a beautiful and very diverse nature: snowy mountains, volcanoes, beaches, etc. btw do you know they have the FOUR SEASONS?>Historyboth countries' histories are intriguing and worth studying>Foodagain, different traditions but equal status as gourmet powerhouses>Cinemaboth countries have shaped the cinema of the 2nd half of the 20th century with countless masterpieces and iconic actors>MusicItaly historically had the upper hand but modern Japan has proven equally dynamic and experimental with music
>Historyreminder that Italy did not exist before 1861, while Japan has been a continuous historical entity since 38,000 BC
>>214572986I can't read Italian or Japanese fluently so it's not fair to compare their poets
>>214572533>french new wavealso dgaf about this. no one cares about france. japan still wins here. every country in the world watches anime. studio ghibli is still loved by weebs worldwide. even people in france love anime and probably watch more anime than they watch anything italiannot to mention akira kurosawa is one of the greatest directors in history and influenced cinema for decades after including films like star wars. not to mention toshiro mifune who was even considered for obi wan kenobi in star wars.
>>214573204Italy existed as a concept since the Roman times and the idea of an Italian unification resurfaced many times in history, given the geographical and cultural affinity of the Italian States.Since the Renaissance the idea grew stronger and stronger and when the unification occurred in the 19th century it was the result of centuries of cultural and political convergence.
>>214573204japan was fucking each other in the ass until 1861 so pretty even playing field here.>>214572737>Italy hasnt caused enough butthurt around the world for the past few centuries so Japan. But If I consider old times, Italy ofc.the question is who has the better/deeper history, not who is better at committing war crimes/human experimentation and then denying it. japan did one thing in their entire history and that's by sneak attacking pearl harbor.
>>214573344This. Even though it wasn’t ultimately done for the good of the people, but rather a specific noble family. The only reason Italy did not unite before, like France or Spain, is because the various micro states were too rich and culturally influential and didn’t want to share any of that with their neighbours. The result of such greed was centuries of foreign non-stop cucking.
>>214572855Romans hated the Greek cities and destroyed everything when they conquered them.
>>214573448Our greek ruins are better preserved than your lmao
>>214573448>>214573534Please stop fighting):
>>214573448The Romans hated rebels. Those who rolled over for the Romans got on just fine. Corinth got destroyed because they rebelled, no different from Alexander and Thebes. The punishment for rebels to the Romans was complete destruction
>>214573221Italian poetry mogs english one let alone japanese
>>214571922ItalyItalyItalyDon't knowItaly
>>214573577They also disliked philosophy and religion.
>>214572021Are you...60~70yo?>>214572740Tuscia
>>214571992>chooses pasta over Japanese foodlow effort ragebait
>>214571922Reminder that if you can't pick up a good looking white woman then you certainly cannot pick up a good looking Asian woman either. The Asian woman on the left looks cute and innocent, but most definitely has the same standards as a white attractive blonde woman.
>>214574707To be honest, Italian food is much more palatable to us because of our proximity.Japanese food looks and tastes alien.
>>214573534why do you preserve ruins instead of rebuilding them? it's like worshipping a pile of rubble
>>214574775Tourist money, should be obvious.Same reason Türkiye preserves churches.
>Japan>cinemaI'll give you the undisputed anime revolution and lead in the animation department but the Asian, non anime, cinema has been ignored for decades until like the 00s and it started gaining popularity only with some shitty horrors with muh spooky ghost kids and all that Hollywood always had to make an adapted westoid version with a blonde in the main role.>inb4 what about this and that Japanese movie and directorSure, they have left their contribution to the history but not as much as the Italians did worldwide. I don't even mind watching some Japanese movies at 3:00 AM on Rai 3 Cose Mai Viste series with world productions from the 40s to the 10s sometimes featuring Japanese style movies in both colors and black and white but they don't leave a sign beside the camera work. Also I remember I watched some freakish movie and of course it felt like a proto-JAV excuse of a movie, with some incel raping and drugging women, molesting his sister or mother or shit like that and I think it had some soap bubble scenes, that's what I remember from it, another one was about two lovers where the girl was the daughter of a businessman and wanted her father approval of her boyfriend, somewhere between romance and comedy, only funny part were the cheap cocktail bar scenes tho. Most recent movies I remember where about three sisters going to a funeral, a movie about a writer woman and a university professor who had sex tapes of the two or something, it was alright, and another one about a Tokyo and Japan wide blackout that lasted months and a woman thinking she has found an old friend from school but it was actually a mistake but they still became friends or something.
>>214574602Philosophy was a mixed bag to traditionalists in the 3rd and early 2nd century, with the biggest voice being Cato (who learnt it anyway), he wanted Athenian envoys kicked out of Rome because one of them was a philosopher and he found their teachings distasteful but he was clearly popular as he brought in crowds. Later on it would just be accepted as a whole. In religion, they were completely fine with it, and in fact adopted a lot of the religious culture, or at least images of the Greeks. Although State Cults didn't change at all, so any official religion didn't change from the Magna Mater and didn't involve any new Greek cults it was acceptable to worship in a Greek fashion.
>>214574965The Romans shut down or destroyed all philosophy schools in Greece.Later they also destroyed all temples and enforced christianity.By the time the Ottomans attacked the roman empire, Athens, Sparta and other big Greek cities were mere villages.
>>214574707>Japanese foodits honestly just a trend. i've been dragged to sushi places for years now. its not generally good like italian food is generally good. there are few very good plates, but when you go to the most common stuff, spaghetti beats white rice with raw fish any day.
>>214572627what kind of italians?
>>214575166this kind
>>214575234why? what is she doing wrong?
>>214575279flooding italia with africans
>>214575442i agree, she literally was the one who promised to deal with that the most but then did nothing. beyond that though, i don't think she's doing bad.
>>214575279Flooding Shitaly with jeets for instance
>>214571922Japan is better by far.
>>214575608>>214575526
>>214571922>NatureBeautiful beaches in the south and if you're a nut for green pastures, the north has a lot of breathtaking locales>HistoryWe're literaly the crux of all history (the one that matters anyways). Japan has a lot of tidbits, sure, but they never had a worldwide impact like we did>FoodNot even a contest there.>CinemaOur old movies are great and we both inspired eachother. Spaghetti westerns, lone samurai stories, theatrical plays. I'd say a tie.>MusicI've personally never been a fan of more modern italian music. But I can't deny their cultural impacts either.
>>214575526shes destroying your country how is that 'not bad' if our pm did what she's doing he'd be removed and cancelled from public life instantly
>>214575774i said "beyond that, she's not doing bad". i mean that no other politician available right now could do better than what she's doing. getting rid of migrants wasn't on the ballot.
>>214574814why do you think people care about the rocks or planks of these buildings instead of what they represented and actually were used for?do you think tourists would visit the Eiffel Tower or Sistine Chapel more or less if they were ruins instead?
>>214571922>NatureDont know so I cant judge>HistoryItaly>FoodItaly, no contest>CinemaIf you count anime then Japan, no contest>MusicI cant decide, both are extremely goodBoth are countries that I would like to visit but Im broke, only italy is a realistic option for me in the next few years due to short distance and therefore cheaper tickets.
>>214575079well at least it's not a mystery why your country is also becoming more overweight and disease ridden
>>214575742>I've personally never been a fan of more modern italian musicNo way. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfH5obEG6kw
>>214571922>NatureJapan>HistoryItaly>FoodJapan>CinemaItaly>MusicJapan
>>214571922japan mogs
>>214575646Why are you posting schoolgirls sweatie.
>>214576155I can't fathom the inner workings of a tourist's mind.But I know that they do come.Look at acropolis for example, lots of people come every year.
>>214576402Why are all greeks gay, oh wait.
>>214576499While I can appreciate a young 30 yo woman I do not condone the admiration of schoolgirls.
>>214576622>30>youngKeked.
>>214571922i like japan but italy is better, keeping it real nigga
>>214576837Why?
The actual size of JapanNature is fairly abundant.
>>214572021Italian music sucks no one listens to Opera or whatever that gay shit is
>>214575045>The Romans shut down or destroyed all philosophy schools in Greece.>Later they also destroyed all temples and enforced christianity.That's not really anti-Greek but rather anti-Pagan. Philosophy still survived just fine, Justinian ordered that the academy in Athens should close because he believed them to be largely pagan (which was true). >Athens, Sparta and other big Greek cities were mere villages.I mean, for Sparta they had been declining even before the Romans even showed up and Athens was being superseded by other cities. This decline wasn't really because of the Romans but was something already underway before they came. It's more of a suprise they survived the 7th century and massive decline in all urban settlements in the Eastern Mediterranean
>>214571922JapanTieItalyJapanJapan
>>214576219low effort ragebait
>>214576888But the climate is all the same because it's an island in the ocean, there is no flatlands or arid areas. Italy has more variation
>>214576897The decline happened because when they were building Istanbul, they stole resources from everyone else.
>>214577143>But the climate is all the sameIs this bait or are all terronis this dumb?
>>214573291you can't put shitanime with actual movies
>>214577246When Greek and Italian devils are posting, consider every single post to be bait.
>>214577270why are Greeks and terroni so good in busting beans, breaking balls is your national sport
>>214577246Japan doesn't get extreme cold or hot and it's humid all around What's hard to understand
>>214577143>-67.8Does it because it counts only European part? In Asian part it's like -73C.
>>214577376Are You a muslime? >>214577270>consider every single post to be bait.My bad.
>>214577376Climate map of italy
>>214577376Look at Hokkaido and Osaka, they have completely different climates.
>>214577452Climate map of Japan, literally just 2 zones based on latitudes
>>214577463Don't waste your time, terronis/muslimes are beyond retarded.
>>214577463>>214577516I provide facts >>214577452 >>214577505 while you have no arguments There's a reason your countries are irrelevant in the sciences
>>214577674Post hands
>>214571922Italy, on all counts, and it's not close
>>214577233Sparta had massively declined into a small town by the 2nd century BC. Athens declined significantly during the 4th century. They had been sidelined well beforehand the Romans ever showed up. Athens was largely treated as a holiday and study city during the Roman period, it just wasn't relevant anymore. Thessaloniki on the other hand grew massively as did Nicaea in Late Antiquity due to Imperial patronage
>>214577674Greece has a very advanced scam sector.
>cinemaITALY
>>214577452>Italy has deserts and tundra, oceanic and continental climates we literally have everything is such a small area how can other coutnries compete
>>214576894Nigga you ain't never heard of Sara perche ti amo?Ofc not you fags don't want footy like every normal human being.https://youtu.be/JuRvtv1zXSYCultivate yourself faggot
>spain calling anyone a muslimojala, my friend!
>CinemaYeah italy wins that one
>>214578312
>>214571922>NatureI think Italy. Japan may have more diversity because of Okinawa and Hokkaido, but Italy has the Alps and Sicily, the sea near the mountains, etc. >HistoryItaly, no question. Japan has been on the periphery of civilization for a long time, a bit like England. >FoodJapan maybeee? Both cuisines are a bit overrated, and marketing plays a big role, but both are delicious. Japan has promoted a wider variety of dishes, which are not missing in Italy but no one knows Italian soups for example >CinemaJapan. But minimally, on the verge of a draw and for one reason. They have both ambitious cinema but only Japan have an entertaining slop in the form of anime on top of that, Italy has nothing like that. My favorite films are Italian or by Italian directors, but Japan seems more dynamic >Music Japan. Lots of good rock and pop. They produce a lot of good music for their domestic market, for themselves. I love old Italian bangers, but check out the top music in Italy. Reggaeton and some bad rap. Italy revitalized an old hit and it instantly gave it new life (Pedro). They should stop imitating LatAm or Germans (I associate them with that Euro trash rap genre) and reinvent themself >Architecture Italy, no question. There you stumble upon works of art while walking, a random street can be a feast for the eyes
>>214577819>>214578312>>214578362Both Italy and Japan had one of the greatest cinema industries in history. Against Visconti, De Sica and Fellini can be placed Mizoguchi, Ozu and Kurosawa. It's not an easy decision.
>>214578719Kurosawa alone is better than all the others put together.
>>214571922>NatureJapan wins just for it's biodiversity, it's variety of weathers, climates, and ecosystems, and for how beautiful and preserved the natural spaces still are.>HistoryHard choice since Japan's history is fun as fuck, but Italy must be more iconic probably. The Roman Empire was kino. >FoodHaven't had a chance to taste genuine japanese food so I'll have to choose italian, plus the sauces and the meat and condiments are incredible. >CinemaJapan. Italy is a powerhouse in terms of cinema, but Japanese films just have an ethereal beauty to them, specially animated ones.>MusicJapan. Opera is incredible but Japan literally is amazing at orchestras, tango, electronic, rock, metal, pop, jazz, and we all love videogame OSTs for that reason.Tatsuro Yamashita and Hideki Naganuma mog everyone.
>>214578466>Music>JapanAre you srs?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdWEhMOrRpQ
>>214578943>Italy must be more iconic probablyThey're just Greek copycats. Even in history, others easily mock them.
Italy has bigger boobs. So Italy.
>>214579160>They're just Greek copycatsBy that logic Japan just copycat China
>>214579132I don't know dude, I love italian singers but Japanese music has way more variety. Eurodance was good but the Japanese put it all into their music. This dude for example never learnt to speak spanish and sang all from learning the phonetics and lyrics however he could. And he sounds fucking incredible.https://youtu.be/GRyY_RntDP0
>>214579319well according to your logic, civilization arose in Africa because the first hominids are from there.
>>214579410no not really. if you say italy copy greece it is fair to say japan copy china. kanji is literally chinese hanzi. there are more examples but i am lazy right now
>>214579132>1997As I said, it's almost a draw, but Japanese seems more dynamic nowodays in music industry. Italians produce and listen to mostly reggaeton and euro rap or american pop
>>214579508Pls Chang, you're just a china men in denial.
>>214579370I'd much rather they focus on making stuff like this instead of singing like the Spanish.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcGY0dStHuA
>>214579570ethnicity is not nationality or are american now english?
>>214579370>This dude for example never learnt to speak spanish and sang all from learning the phoneticsopera singers from all over the world do the same, most operas are in italian/german/latin they don't need to learn the language
>>214579525Absolutely. Italian music is beautiful in terms of classical, orchestral, and opera, but asides from that it's not the most popular or most recognizable one. Tarantellas are kind of funny to listen to, but they feel like they're pub music.Japan has diversified a lot and both retro and modern music for them has all of their soul in it. Way more than k-pop at least.https://youtu.be/V2FpyNYiqwc>>214579606That's what I'm talking about! And the good thing is that this style of orchestral + asian music is still very, very popular in Japan thanks to videogames. People will just spend their time listening to beautiful compositions thanks to the exposure japanese media does. Though if we're being fair, the japanese got inspired by all types of cultures to create what they do now.https://youtu.be/HMGetv40FkI>>214579669True, although if you already speak a roman language it's less impressive if you can sing in italian or even latin. Tango requires a different type of skill to really let the expression and emotion of the lyrics flow. Japanese is phonetic just like spanish, but it's got some hard R's that the japanese don't tend to use.
>>214579776>True, although if you already speak a roman languageThere's chinese japanese, korean tenors as well as others native in non romance languages Russians made an entire show in italian, talking and singing covers of their songs, that was impressive and fun: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JU9Uq2Aqdxg
>>214576961You think it's normal for 40% of your population to be overweight?The inner workings of the Italian mind is fascinating
>>214571922Italy in all counts. I still like the Japanese though
>>214580866It is still the lowest in Europe, especially compared to Sweden, but hey, if you want to be an annoying sperg and post shitty baits you regurgitated(probably) from /fit/ then go ahead.
>>214578719>>214578796Unpopular opinion but i prefer ozu over kurosawa, i wish he made more movies
I'm very biased towards Italy, for what should be obvious reasons
>>214581662>ozu over kurosawaTell me a movie from him better than 7 samurai?
>>214572021>Spaghetti westernsBased!
>>214571922Italy wins in all of those categories, but Japan has a superior standard of living nowadays (although this is debatable).
>>214572439Yes but it sucks shit
>>214571922>one is photoshopped to look better>other uses weird aperture lense to look worse
>>214581662Even more unpopular opinion: I prefer Mizoguchi to both.
>>214573011Don't be mean to our greatest ally
>>214573011>then getting their shit kicked in and humiliatedit's hilarious to hear this from a german.
>>214582814>japan's history is being isolated then getting their shit kicked in and humiliatedWhile that's an over simplification he is right tb h
>>214582334Seven samurai is not even kurosawa's best film
>>214583026Oi mate do u hav a loicense for that rubish?
>>214571922japan wins in videogames, that are the most common type of consumable media nowadays, so japan winswe need a video game industry, we need to force the Ciros and Gennaros to create videogames
>>214583080I mean how do you interpret the Perry expedition?
>>214571992still seething at japanese supremacy i seehard to be a soulless copy with no defining characteristics other than westlife boybands getting ran through by their producers
>>214583149The authorities know that You're here?
>>214583628??
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>>214571922Left chan mog arab on right
Japan to all>inb4 muh history, muh romansSengoku Jidai mogs all European history, not just Italy,s.
>>214571922>Nature>History >FoodPretty much the same, true value is made by devoted psycos either way. Pizza magic vs fish magic.Cinema: old timey cinema is similar value, modern one - Japan wins. Anime and hentai is priceless.Music: name any modern band from either country. I know locals, my Italian brother in arms knows his locals, but global impact is shit. Who wins?
>>214584383very wise words my friend >global impact is shit.this is true if you don't do music in english (or spanish) so who cares
>>214571922Japan
>>214572175anything greek history is superior
>>214572175Yes. Undoubtably, Italy easily has the busiest most relevant history out of any country in Europe. League of Cambrai was the original WW1, the Renaissance, University of Padua was the most prominent educational center in the entire world, Venice became the framework for maritime superpowers. Japan barely had any buildings above one story and had constant fires/earthquakes making them unwilling to do things like build forts or commit to big projects. Also like 85% of the population was subsistence farmers, so you had one city of any note (Edo) and the rest of the country which was detached and filled with peasants collecting night soil. It's like comparing dark age Germany to Byzantine.
I like both and won't choose
>>214573204italy has roman structures still standing for thousands of yearsjapan at that time is just mudhut
>>214584064>Sengoku Jidaino idea what that isin other words, irrelevant weeb history compared to what the italians contributed
>>214586313Why are chicanos this dumb?
>>214586921He's correct. Sengoku was warring clans, it's like saying warring Germanic tribes was the peak of German history. It went on for nearly 200 years until Portuguese showed up and sold their favored groups guns.
>>214587317>Germanic tribesno idea what that isin other words, irrelevant wehraboo history compared to what the greeks contributed.
>>214587574Franks, Goths, Vandals, Saxons, Angles, and Suebi, etc. There's no way you haven't at least heard one of these names.
>>214587704no idea what that isin other words, irrelevant wehraboo history compared to what the Japanese contributed.
>>214571922Both will be black baby incubators in the upcoming BNWO after the inevitable honkeycide/bugcide
>>214571922>NatureJapan>FoodJapan >CinemaJapan>MusicJapanI don't know anything about Italy, other than Japan made the most iconic Italians.
>>214588137>>I don't know anything about Italybased
>>214586108>night soil(archaic, euphemistic) faecesdidn't know that
>>214587854Franks were the tribe Charlemagne was from and there's no way they don't teach you about the Goths in Spain. Either you don't read history at all or you're being deliberately obtuse.
Now Im learning that Japan/Italy comparison thread is the effective bait.
>>214589106Yeah we should do these more often
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>>214588825>you're being deliberately obtuse.you're the one being deliberately obtuse, acording to (You) being an iliterate nigger and dont knowing history is being right, I know amerimutts are braindead, but I never stop being amazed of how retarded amerimutts can be.
>>214571992>>214572093>>214572433>>214576327>music>japanItaly makes better anime music than the japanesehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yL8I-c1IujMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJoeKalm-HMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDVKq_cf2Vohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--socvFFTuA
>>214590231eww....disgusting music
>>214572433>italian movie in my life because their cinema is irrelevantWat, they have plenty of important genre defining classics as their output, and theyre not even obscure, in fact theyre very popular even.>suspiria>la strada>la dolce vita>spaghetti western movies
>>214590590also giallo movies, Africa Addio, Cannibal Holocaust, Tinto Brass
>>214586186What if I put a gun on your head
>>214584383>name any modern band from either country>japanCreepy Nuts, the peggies, haku., mass of the fermenting dregs, yoasobi>italymaneskin>>214589106Both countries are very similiar in its regions
>>214571922Italy mogs Japan in every single way. It’s not even close.
>>214593712Italy can't make salsas to save their life, they can only make garlinc flavored tomato catsup.At least fucking Japs invented taru sauce
we are the same
>>214571922>NatureNippon, hard diff>HistoryItaly, small diff>FoodItaly, medium diff>CinemaNippon, medium diff>MusicItaly, hard diff>WinnerItaly, medium diff
>NatureJapan and its not even close>HistoryItaly and its not even close>FoodItaly>The other stuffneither>Winner...Japan
>>214593428>Creepy NutsAre You black?
>>214571922>>NatureJapan>>HistoryItaly>>FoodItaly>>CinemaJapan>>MusicItaly
>>214595264Actually I think I'll give Music to Japan
>>214594013Nigga who gives a fuck about salsa you dumb spic
>>214589816>ad flaginemAt least try to argue rather than seething at a flag and reciting this braindead mantra, even saying something like 'history is fake and gay' would have been a halfway decent response.
>>214572175...Yeah? Besides you are comparing 2500 years ago with something much more recentBy the time the tokugawa shogunate happened, Italy just had the reinsaissance which is undoubtedly superior
>>214571922To be frank I don't care about the topic at hand.I see music in the OP I post Warren Zevonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gALaxb1ScJ8
>>214572740Even England has stuff like that
>>214571922I think Italy wins in nature and history while Japan wins food, cinema and music
Italy is quite literally the greatest nation to ever exist. Its the only nation that I feel sad for when I see them flooded with africans and asiatics
>>214598919he is talking about the sudoku forest
>>214571922>Japan or Italy, which one has better:>The number of Japanese nationals residing in Italy is 14,937 as of 2019. The number of Italian nationals residing in Japan is 4,695 as of 2020numbers don't lie
The mixture of Japan and Italy is unique. Jojo proves it.
I’m just glad that our country is now comparable to Italy :3
>>214571922italy
>>214571922>>NatureJapan (only country with 4 seasons)>>HistoryItaly and it's not even close>>FoodItaly. Fish is overrated. Pizza is one of the best things ever created>>CinemaJapan. Both have kinos, but Japan has anime>>MusicItaly. Both suck when it comes to modern music. Italy wins for the classical music
>>214572175of course it is c'mon, Japan's history is interesting but no even close to Italy or Greece
>>214582334>tfw no hikkimori jap gf
>>214571992>kim seething about japan again
>>214606475here you are
>>214595180I'm not even a rap fan, but I know the band. I also know the Italian artists, songs, but from the '80s and '90s. I compared the top charts of different countries, and Italy was terrible. It was very bad in many countries, but Italy's was particularly upsetting due their musically traditions
>>214571922Italy wins in everything, there is no point of comparison, everything in Japan is horrible only because the Japanese government spends millions a year on propaganda. There are people who are brainwashed by Japanese things
>>214608271I looked at the top charts worldwide and it's all commercial garbage, that means there's no good music
>>214608451>because the government spends millions on propagandaIt doesn't matter who pays for it; we evaluate the effect. The US government also subsidized cartoons. NASA was founded with government funding, and we're not saying that space flight doesn't count because the government financed it, or that the internet isn't an American achievement because it started as a military project
>>214573204Meme reddit factoid, we could also say Hungary didn't really exist before 1919 by the same line of thought but we both know this is not true.
>>214575079Meat based japanese dishes are pretty good, they are hard to find in Italy though, authentic Japanese restaurants are in general.
>>214606516I love japan more than Italy
>>214605532>Fish is overratedIf anything it's underrated, so many varieties and ways of cooking compared to meat
>>214613393nah fish is fucking mid
fart
>>214571922>Nature Japan>HistoruJapan>FoodJapan>CinemaJapan>MusicJapan
>>214590231You didn't even post the best oneshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Crm94eMuPEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1X732I9EiaAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dfUm55SZs0
>>214608831The US government has almost entirely stopped national scale propaganda after 1989. New Hollywood effectively ended by the mid 90s, everything on MTV in the 90s/2000s was cynical or punk, American Idiot went triple platinum, Mike Judge became the pre-eminent satiric cartoonist (same guy who made Idiocracy). Most people don't think of the Internet as an American achievement, they see it as an achievement of private enterprise even though it was a literal DARPA project. The Internet was privatized in the 90s, the US doesn't want other countries to like it what it wants is more privatization. Somewhere along the line they realized soft power did nothing outside of entertainment and the average consumer has no standards anyway. Judging propaganda by its effect is one thing, judging it by its intention is another.
>>214617044quella di dragon ball fa cagare
>>214618575La tua vita fa cagare
>>214618603è piena di inglesismi di merda
>>214618603ha ragione, tutte le sigle per gli anime di Giorgio Vanni o Italia 1 in generale sono spazzatura
>NatureJapan because the climate in Italy is kill (depending on the region).>HistoryNeither. It's all a bunch of fairy tales for fools.>FoodHard one. I'd say Italy but I like nigiri. However, I only eat salmon and that's not a pure Japanese invention, so I'll stick to Italy here.>CinemaItaly hands down. I only watch comedies and Fantozzi beats anything made in Japan that's tagged as "comedy".>MusicAnother hard one. Italy is good at late 1980s Italo but Japan is not far off, and they did borrow a lot of the same style. Let's make it a tie.
>>214621297>I only watch comediesWhat's your favourite cinepanettone?
>>214621951Is this Italy's version of Ernest movies?
>>214580866it's mostly old people
>>214571922Italy, even tho i like my japanese bros
>>214571922>NatureJapan>HistoryItaly>FoodItaly>CinemaJapan>MusicJapan
>>214571922Italy has half the people, double the accomplishmentsJapan BTFO
>>214622590Depends, are Ernest movies just one big 1 hour and 30 minutes long compilation of poo and sex jokes worthy of a middle schooler?
>>214623475No, it's rather clean humor that relies mostly on stupid faces.
>>214571922Chinese with Indonesian spice. That's my preference.
>>214623475>>214623559I think a better point of reference would be American PieImagine an American Pie flick, but more boomer-orientedThat's what Cinepanettoni are like
>>214621951Vacanze a Cortina > Natale sul Nilo >>> the rest
>>214621951Selvaggi is king
japan is just gayer italy. if italians made their own anime japan would be redundant
>>214624870>if italians made their own animehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXydVajlfKo
>>214624963good start to your anime
>>214625107the Manara drawings are probably the only decent thing about that piece of garbage
>>214625164so its not a good anime?are there good italian anime?
>>214624830Along with Box Office 3D, God Bless America, Unstoppable and The Exorcist
>>214625355haven't seen it but it is widely known as being shit herethe only decent cartoons that come to mind are la Linea or Calimero, which I think was animated in Japan and isn't exactly something worth watching.The only ones in Europe who can do 2d animation are the French really and even them don't do much unfortunately since there's no market for it.We have plenty of comics at least, though the French publishing industry is still better in that regard but we still publish good stuff here too
>>214576205bro, you are welcome here anytime
>>214571922>NatureJapan has 4 seasons and sakura blossom>HistoryThey started way too late, nothing they got can rival Rome>FoodItaly, no doubts about it>CinemaJapan mogs so much without even mentioning anime: Kurosawa, Ozu...>MusicVORREEEIIIIII POTERMI INNAMORARE ANCORAAAAAAAFinal Score: Italy 3 Japan 2
>>214571922Wow she looks cute here
