I'm Brazilian and spending some weeks here on vacation. Everything is so nice. The Belgins barely work, earn a lot of money and have great transportation/security/healthcare. I want to live here.What are the downsides of living in Belgium? Are there any better European countries?
>>214573833They re better than fr*nce which is an utter shithole but thats about it.
>>214573833barely work? I work 8-8 and almost everyone I know does 9 hour days, not counting lunchbreakwhere do all these lazy niggas get easy jobs? please fucking tell me
>>214573833Depends. Please post your ancestry test before I can make an accurate assessment of whether or not you should move here
>>214573833>The Belgins barely work, earn a lot of moneylollmaofucking monkeyunbelievable
>>214573833Only DACH and the Nordics are worth moving into. The gap between them and the rest of Europe (Belgium included, Wallonia is Portugal-tier poor) is enormous.
>>214574047Do you think that MOVING there will benefit him in any way? The wealth there is concentrated around a bunch of people. If you are a jeet with no skills it will barely make any difference.
>>214574089Nah. Neetbux in Sweden is higher than than in shitholes like Brazil or rusgolia, even CoL-adjusted. A janitor there is left with as much money as a senior programmer here.
>>214574178>than thanthan the average wage
>>214574178>as a senior programmer herenah, the codemonkey can easily earn 300k rub net in Russia>A janitor there is left with as much money as a senior programmer hereThat's a bold statement, can you somehow present some data to prove it?
>>214574178>Neetbux in Sweden is higherDid you read my post I wonder? You do know that you can't get the neetbux JUST by moving there?
>>214574219Programmer salaries cap at 200k now, idk in what aeon was the last time you visited this country, boomer, but it's all different now. They only ones who aren't completely poor here are the butchers who kill people in Ukraine for already 3 years.
>>214574245Obviously no, that's why I added that later phrase about a janitor, even doing part-time unqualified labor you'll be way better off. Did HIV destroy your eyes?
>>214574295>capped at 200khttps://habr.com/ru/specials/936618/Is this article lying then? >the butchers who kill people in Ukraine Based
>>214574327Sure, given that your alcoholic mother has caused enough damage to your brain, let me reiterate this for you>That's a bold statement, can you somehow present some data to prove it?
>>214574341>>214574370VPN off HIVan.
Retarded son of a whore started backpedaling the moment he was asked to present some basic evidence
>>214574295Btw>It's on the UkraineHere you go, churka
Another zigger VPN spotted. Great job!
Can you retards stop sperging out and just objectively answer if this country has any downsides?>>214573970My mom cleans and earns a net 2k euro working 20 hours per week, my dad works 8-8 and earns 5kIf you are a couple and both of you earn 2k it seems like you can easily live a really good life, at least way better than what is happening in Brazil. If you are a bit more ambitious you can easily work more.>>214574002I don't have a DNA test but we have Italian ancestry and Italian citizenship which allows us to live anywhere in Europe. I'm tired of Brazil and decided to move. Now I'm trying to see what country is the best one, and heavily leaning towards Belgium because some of my family already lives there so I'd have a support net
>>214574417>average salary in russia is 3200 eurosRussians cannot suffer. Th3y also have low cost of living, cheap gas and economy which can withstand thousand of western sanctionI wish i was Russia citizen.
>>214575061why does the stereotype of russia bieng poor exist? In terms of economic statistics they are doing so well. And socially the president banned lgbt zog tranny propoaganda that is taking over the world
>>214573833
>>214575152>14593 per capitathere you have it everyone else has it 5x better>b-but muh ppp!!!thats not real money
based french poster who wants to live in america itt
>>214575203Money only matters relative to living expenses, then you can see whether you can live a good life or not. It would be worse if you made more money but you couldnt afford anything and essential things like housing and bills and insurance
>>214573833YWNBB
>>214575328Unless you have a tech related hobby. Then you're fucked.
>>214575061It's not the average, it's SWE salary. The retarded brownoid churka subhuman was saying these are low, I proved otherwise.
>>214575203Being a poor fuck somewhere in Switzerland vs earning x5 the Russian average in Moscow. Of course if you are a retarded jeet you look at things in terms of the average, if your IQ is higher than room temperature then you think in terms of where you personally would earn more. I give 0 fucks how much Germans earn, but I know for sure if I ended up earning the German average I'd consider killing myself because that's not life it's survival.
>>214573954Visiblement, tu n'as jamais visité le pays
>>214575582I already earn 15x the average in my own country. And it sucks. I'd rather live in a country of equals. And I'll never take advice from some smelly incel fucktard that hides behind a nippon VPN because he thinks samurai are cool.
>>214575447do you mean belgian or brazillian? But i get thats the joke
>>214575603>incelI'm married>hidesYou are posting on an anime imageboard you retarded son of a prostitute, who do you think is hiding?>my own countryBelgium isn't a country, it's a meme.>I already earn 15x the average in my own countryThen why are you bitching retard?
>>214575603>15x the average in my countryBro you're literally the top elite in your country, you can choose to buy anything you want
>>214575603Ahh nvm you are the monkey from BrazilI should have thought more before replying to you
>>214575677Probably its 15 bananas instead of 1
>>214575648My country is not Belgium are you even keeping up with the thread?>>214575677What is the point if when walking on the streets I know 90% of the people I see are knee-deep in poverty and can barely afford their own rent? And they don't have enough IQ to even stand on a market aisle without getting on the way of other people. This isn't life.
>>214575603Bodied that zigger.
>>214575582Not everyone is a muscovite nepobaby that inherited an apt in Moscow, and a position with high salary thanks to daddies connections
The downside of Belgium:The weather fucking sucksThe gatekeeping and autism around languages. Belgians will tell you to master this or that language, but when you do you realize it's never enough, you'll soon realize that it's just code words for "no foreigner", and foreigner can mean people from the other side of the country (and I'm Belgian myself).Also, low end jobs are far better paid in Luxembourg (and if you're brazilian, you have a strong portuguese community in Lux). A cashier in Lux earns what a boss earns in Belgium.The mentality is very materialistic, very boomer-like.
>>214575716Fuck off ebanaya churka
>>214575746That's exactly my point right, I'd rather have shitton of money and live in Moscow rather than being a cheap fuck in some european shithole full of niggers.
and I forgot about the bureaucracy held by fucking karens on a power trip but that's not specific to belgium
In reality this chechens' fucktoy has no money because russians are poorer than Brazilians.
>>214575754What country are you from?
>>214575749>Belgians will tell you to master this or that language, but when you do you realize it's never enoughThis is BS (at least when talking about BXL)
>>214575865Given that I use a lot of Russian racial slurs it shouldn't come as a surprise I'm Russian. But I left it when I was young.
>>214575749I'll probably get fucked when it comes to jobs because I am a lawyer in Brazil and that is a useless skill in Europe. Plan to learn Dutch and French since Belgians apparently care a lot about that, hopefully I can get a cushy job from language alone despite having no other skills.
>>214575875 it's real in Flanders though.
>>214575822Why do they always spread the old propaganda of russia being poor and underdeveloped
>>214576013You are talking to a poor incel whose only purpose is to shit on this board, the thing wants your attention, not proofs and arguments
>>214576045Projecting much HIVan. 117 waits you to call.
>>214576106Then why did you ignore this post >>214574417 you brownoid son of a Tajik whore?
Why the hell is my thread infested with Russian lowlives?
>>214576132Because you are in MY thread
>>214575925>Plan to learn Dutch and French since Belgians apparently care a lotThis only applies to Flanders. In Bruxelles and Wallonia, you only really need to know French. Also, in some really shit situations in Bruxelles and Charleroi, you might also need to know some basic Arabic phrases
>>214575925Move to Switzerland and maybe you can find a job with some big law consultancy that does business with Brazil.
>>214576178I plan to stay in Flanders because my family is there but I dunno yet, what are the differences other than language? Is Flanders supposed to be a poor/redneck area? From what I read they have better jobs and less Arabs, seems like absolute win
>>214576307Everything works better (public transport, people actually taking care of public infrastructure etc...) in Flanders. Wallonia has no jobs. Bruxelles felt like wild west, but all the good jobs and other foreigners are there (plus you can easily do day trips to Paris from there)
>>214576307Flanders is the richer area, that's where all the good jobs areBut you HAVE to learn Dutch, and they are gatekeepy about it
>>214576307Why not the Netherlands though? It's niccer.
>>214576477Ive heard Dutch is the easiest language to learn for english speakers, so OP already speaks english so it must be easy, compared to french which is much harder
>>214576477what exactly is wrong with having to know dutch in a dutch speaking region, especially when you're planning to work and live here?
>>214577489nothing on the surface, but in the Netherlands you can go by with only English, and in many other countries too, in Flanders there is a "us vs them" attitude, and even those who know Dutch will have to deal with the tussentaal, the cliquey mentality.To me it's similar to Japan, where a gaijin can speak Japanese all he wants, there will still be little details (appearance, accent, being a foreigner) that will keep him out of certain jobs or a promotion.
>>214573833The two big cities are nice but idk if I could live thereHOWEVERone of the nicest scenes I have ever witnessed was entering Belgium from Germany and despite being springtime, it looked like fall with all these bright colors, and somehow the overcast sky actually made it look cooler. This was the part with hills, not the flat country, but that was one of the greatest views I have ever seen
>>214578154yeah I know that place, it's Pays de Herve and the landscape is really beautiful when the sun is shining
>>214578068no one expects a tourist or an exchange student to be fluent in Dutch, so at least me personally don't mind using english, not at all. but trying to start a life here without even bothering learning the language, to me it just screams "i'm not integrating because i'm lazy and fuck you"and you know perfectly well if Dutch isn't soft enforced frenchification will go into overdrive. trust me, i live near brussels. Dutch only region in a corner of east flanders but local aldi is 30% french of people walking around meDutch motherfucker, do you speak it?
>>214578286You sure? I think it was that highway close (but not leading to) Luxembourg
I've been to Belgium twice and all the people were really niceit's funny because French and Dutch people aren't so nice, but if you go to Belgium you get nice French and Dutch speakers
>>214578344oh ok I know this place as well, it's basically the Ardennes
>>214573833I know several Italians moved there as they earn much, much more than they would here for a very similar cost of lifeif you are skilled and able to get a job there I say why not
