Why do people hate the longhouse when the longhouse style of community is literally everything they desire? Do people in your country crave longhouse-style community too? >strong social connection with your tribe, based almost exclusively on race and ancestry >directly leads to 99.9% shared culture and experiences>strong social safety net, even if you are a low performer you have no economic pressures or issues with staying alive >immediate connection, basically guaranteed wife, etc and the only downside is.... woman bad? that's it? that your mom had the ability to whoop your ass if you misbehaved, JUST LIKE TODAY? I don't understand chuds at all
>>214588771>get to have sex>but the whole tribe gets to watch you do it
>>214589027I doubt that is how it worked. young couples probably snuck away to fuck in the woods
>>214588771long house is long :D
>>214588771i always wonder how their culture regarding sex was? with no abrahamic belief telling them sex and nudity is bad did they just do it open in their sleeping area? did they have mating rituals in front of the bonfire for everyone to see and cheer on? or did they run into the forest for a quickie...so many questions.
the ones who want a community are the ones who don't deserve one to begin with. something mentally ill with you
>>214588771i'd go insane from lack of privacy
>>214589306wtf why >>214589288didn't basically every culture have some form of longhouse lifestyle? the vikings, native americans, various MENA groups like the bedouins, they ALL lived in the longhouse only places like China and India never had this culture I think, because they were so densely populated for so long
>>214589095An Indian said they absolutely fucked in the longhouse, it was not a big deal to them. Doubt he had an actual source for that though.
>>214589288Discretion is almost always a cultural aspect. How it is done though can vary. The pagan romans were pretty well known for thier "morality" laws.>>214589361Medieval europe too. A keep/castle usually had a communal living/sleeping area. Even the lords room tended to have servants and children sleeping with them. Isolated sleeping is relatively new.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C16L3Z8oI_E
I read they were horrible, dark, dirty, cramped, smelly and unsanitary
>>214589288Didnt euro royalties literally WATCH the first consumation of royal wedding night up to the french revolution?
>>214588771Imagine trying to sleep,fuck,eat,masturbate and work with your 20 shitass retard cousins screming and pissing you off,op is clearly a single child
>>214589361they did. and very little is known of the daily life in said longhouses, atleast here. few written sources and none cared about daily life, archaeology cant figure it out because people rarely died having sex. its reasonable to think that it was far more liberal than today but they probably had some limits to it.
>>214589610>>214589530all of these issues can be solved nowadays though. it doesn't detract from the positives
>>214589625So you DONT want to live in a longhouse, just in some communal housing like some hippie freak?
>>214589675honestly yea
>>214589567yes but this was under christian law and for royalty where bloodlines was important. they had this rule for a reason and that was that fucking around was a thing even then, none could really know who fathered the next prince, the king or the chad guard.and they expected blood on the bed due to breaking the hymen but that doesnt really happend so i dunno how they dealth with this?
>>214588771Strong social connections are overrated. There's a reason we had them in the past and gave them up for technology slop.
>>214589844they aren't overrated at all, why the fuck are you here on /int/ if you aren't looking for anonymous social connection
>>214589844Op wants to get fucked over by nepo babies
>>214588771We already have this >>strong social connection with your tribe, based almost exclusively on race and ancestry Check. The tribe has supplanted my government and I'm gonna get killed someday soon in the future. They're gonna kill us all "based almost exclusively on race and ancestry" >>directly leads to 99.9% shared culture and experiencesYep everyone here is some sort of serfgoy that lives under anarcho-tyranny >>strong social safety net, even if you are a low performer you have no economic pressures or issues with staying alive That's right the least generative and qualified people are not only thriving on tax money but they get pretty much every entry level job uncontested >>immediate connection, basically guaranteed wife, etc And they call it the internet, social media, therapy, etc and they claim all you need to do to guarantee a fat roastie covered in tattoos with a bone through her nose is to be a heckin wholesome chungo pop
>>214590037you sound like an absolute schizo I have no fucking clue what you are talking about
>>214590071We already have your vision of longhouse utopia. Kumbaya nigga.
>>214589843Yah, thats my point, there were places and times where fucking in front of someone would make sense or wouldnt. I would assume it would be the same with the native americans. Bloodlines and shit would also be important in tribal life, so I would assume both wild random fuckfests would be off the table usually just like euros.Maybe some king might organize an orgy if he was rich with the local prostitutes from time to time, but I wouldnt expect it to be the usual for the reasons you just mentioned.
>>214590037>>214590151no we fucking don't literally nothing about modern society is designed around forming strong social connections with a tribe and to be clear I understand that people don't want to be stuck with mental midgets, >>214589941 says this point is definitely true, that richer people are going to have more educated social groups and those should be inclusive to more people than a tribal system would allow. but really the solution is not to cast away tribes altogether, it's just to make them more inclusive.
>>214589509Medieval castle. Usually the lords retainers would often all sleep in the hall. Eariler/poorer ones probably didnt even have a room specifically for the lord, and even the ones who did would have servants and close family sleeping with them in thier private room. If I remember, often times the lords bed was in the public hall itself, and the curtains were for a degree of privacy (also heat retention) when he wanted to cut off his usually pretty public bed room.
>>214588771Why are Unitedstatians like this lmao
>>214590427>I understand that people don't want to be stuck with mental midgetsIt must kill you to be inside your own head
>>214590760wdym?
I know it smell crazy in there
>>214590325bloodlines was really not that important, it was more who raised a kid, who was its father/mother it was loyal to.people have waged wars in the name of the cuck father who just raised someone as his son, few if any records exist of someone doing the same for a bloodline father they never knew. the meme about vikings coming home from a 2 year raid and getting welcomed by his wife and newborn son as a welcoming gift is actually real. sometimes the vikings brought back kids on their own as a gift to his wife.stories from truly primitive tribes in africa are even worse, they dont understand sex=pregnancy, they dont understand fatherhood, they only understand the tribe and thats what matters. the tribe is your mother and father and sex just happends.
>>214590771You responded to that in under 10 seconds
>>214590893whats your point. I don't understand what you are getting at. be fucking clear retard
unironically listened to BAM and it made me hate the current longhouse
>>214588771because i want to move forward, not backwards. i want those things but not while living like a fucking savage, gabish?
>>214590926I mean you are either A) a chatbot, B) hopelessly ESL, C) hopelessly low IQ, or D) some combination of those.
barbarians...
>>214588771Who hates on longhouses?Anyways I wish I would have been born in the past. Not because it was more trad, based, whatever but because one would be forced to become a somewhat social being.>pic unrelated>>214589530So like ancient Rome?
>>214591403the number of people who lived like that back then is probably similar to the number today lol
>Can you believe it Cassius, yesterday I've seen one of those blonde brutes from the north on the Via Aurelia.>The horror! What was he doing there?>He was taking a shit... on the street.>HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!
>>214591411I wish I was born in the past so I can be a monk and nobody fucking bothers me while I stem alone till I die at the ripe old age of 25
>>214590886idk about that. both in terms of evolutionary biology and from my readings of earlier cultures. Shit like the volsunga saga for norse, early biblical stuff for semites, and the recording or things like the iroqouis confederacy for native americans.All consider (assumed) paternity and maternity important. though ofc secrete fuckseshes were also always a thing too, passing off x as y's son.
>>214591671Here amicus. I've just finished wiping myself.
>>214591798The sponge stick always made me think they they just smear watery poo all over thier ass cheeks rather than doing all that much to clean the area.
>>214592196people probably smelled so fucking bad in the past
>>214592263Noses weren't invented until 1863, so its fine.
>>214591666No you dont get it, his ancestors were patrician senators and not at all farmers in the field
>>214588771That's actually a pretty hot take; I hadn't considered it. The issue probably isn't the longhouse itself, but the sort of longhouse they've built for us. When meme people like Sargon or PJW talk about it they mean a culture of the lowest common denominator being enforced by gossip and violence.Leave it to memers to push memes I guess.>>214590071Willfully unable to communicate. Would have no place in the longhouse.
When you read about how late they came up with chimneys, your world view get's crushed
>>214592624Sargon was this Brexit Youtuber, right? Don't know the other - what do they have to do with longhouses?
>>214591793the african/tribe thing is real.for the viking part they did respect bloodlines but at the same time didnt, you just couldnt trace them down easily and if some king or earl said this is my son and heir its pretty hard to argue against.before christianity a king was the strongest guy with most followers and anyone could challenge him, and it happend. so it happends, wether your son is yours or not is pretty irrelevant when he slay down enemies in your name.
>>214593308> what do they have to do with longhouses?https://youtu.be/eBdUOVYfXjU?si=eD2k2hnN6ZYnkiEMI personally enjoy Sargoy of Mossad, I like his accent
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>>214589931>strong social connections
>>214594734I've probably talked to some of you fuckers every single day for years. just because its anonymous doesn't mean that we don't have a strong culture here that people integrate into
>>214590759It's only natural to violently reject "modern" life
>>214595443I can't pretend that this isn't adorable
>>214588771Why would a chud want no privacy?
>>214595443If ‘modern’ means using tech to dumb you down, grind you harder, and flood the world with junk while the rich steal everything and unleash chaos—then sure, give it a shot
>>214589361Beduins did aggressively separate living spaces through curtains tho.
do eskimos all live together?