>Moscow median salary: 900 USD>Moscow median rent price: 600 USD
>>214613528Maybe they share apartments?
yeah but uhhh i only see niggers every 10 minutes when i walk outside as opposite to 8 in sweden
>>214613528how many times will you post this thread without realizing that almost no one in eastern Europe needs to rent because everyone is a homeowner, unless he's a student or immigrant?
>>214613591Do you walk durring then.
>>214613595Cope son of a russia whore Muhammad sucked cum out of goat penises
only retards earn that small amount of money in moscowaverage guy in moscow is>rent apartments for 40.000 rub/month>work for 120.000/month check yourself im not in the mood for telling you all the stuffhttps://irkutsk.hh.ru/search/vacancy?items_on_page=50&L_save_area=true&hhtmFrom=vacancy_search_filter&area=1&search_field=name&search_field=company_name&search_field=description&text=&enable_snippets=false&salary=120000
>>214613660>only retards earn that small amount of money in moscowjudging by how Russia is managed as a country you can more or less say who makes up the biggest part of this society
>>214613699>thread about russia>poland flag seething around answering all the posts so obsessed
>>214613591Kek Bodied that freak
>>214613528Just buy an apartment instead of renting.
>>214613528moscow didn't meet babushka yet
>>214613660>33% of income on rent.Grim. Would be acceptable if it was a mortgage and you were building equity in a property.
>>214613988>33% of income on rent>grim>grim yeah nigger can you imagine not everyone lives with their slampig of a mother for 40 years straight like you do moreover, in today's reality, that's fucking low.
>that's fucking low.OH NO NO NO
>>2146144471/3 of your income on rent is horrendous by any standard DOE. I pay 1/3 of my income on my mortgage. How the fuck are you supposed to save money so you can afford to buy a place if you pay that much in rent?
>>214613591Yeah instead you see chechen bvlls>>214613595
>>214613591is moskva walkable?
>>214614613If only you are CHURKA BULL
all worth it for them as long as Ukrainians live worse
>>214613595>We can't afford rent but somehow can afford mortgages
>>214614447Kek oligarch's gaped your asshole and you're thankful for it.
>>214614529you're unemployed
>>214614823They pay them off for at least 30 years which for a Russian means the rest of their lives
>>214613528How come nobody talks about how easy it is to date girls in Russia? I'm an ugly Italian and the girls were very easy
>>214614871If I were I wouldn’t have had a mortgage, Ivan. Holy cope.
>>214613528I'm a landlord to them
>>214614921Because you're a foreigner and we don't stone women for going after you
>>214614529Over here 1/3 of income going to rent+services is the standard.
>>214613595kek
>>214615167Grim. I thought we had it bad due to inflation.
>>214615233>Sheik al-Normani thinks he suffers
>>214615282Lol
>>214614823exactly how it works, mortgages are cheaper than renting + your parents will usually help you pay it offand a lot of people inherit an apartment after their grandma
>>214614447>buy place>pay 1/2 income in mortgage>its hellish but for a purpose, i can manage...>sell it after some years for double its price>use profit to buy a house in cash and start my own businessnever never never ever rent, you might as well flush money into the toilet. doesnt matter if it suck you dry and its a shithole, you never loose money on buying.>i cant afford itwell afford it then.
>>214614860Your's gaped your ass as well
>>214614529>1/3 of your income on rent is horrendous by any standard DOE.Norway is privileged. 1/3 of salary going towards rent is absolutely standard in Western Europe. Used to be 1/4, but not since at least a decade.
>>214613528I heard an old Soviet joke recently.It goes something like,"Americans are the poorest people in the world, they can only afford to pay 5 cents for a ruble."
>>214614985Yea but I was just shocked at how easy it was. Comparable to Southeast AsiaI wanted to stay and date a girl longterm but it was just too expensive for a half year vacation.
>>214615503Kekd
>>214615503heh
>>214615415>>pay 1/2 income in mortgageFor a one room crappy 60 years old apartment. And even then it's not affordable in most of the big cities.>>sell it after some years for double its priceHow? If you take it in mortgage here, you will be paying for the next 30 years.We have 25% mortgage rate by the way.
>>214613591Russia imports 200k shitskins a month
>>214616481These "shitskins" are whiter than you.>t.have been to china
>>214616434>We have 25% mortgage rate by the way.jesus christ, for real?
>>214615503Sounds more like modern Russian than Soviet. Money exchange was quite complex and expensive process under commies and the government issued absurdly high exchange rates for the few westoids that came here.
I suffer in puccia. Please help me get out of this hell hole!
>>214616680Yep.
>>214617322I assume because of the war/sanctions? How did boomers who already had loans react to this? I guess that's why rents are up while property prices are down? People need money to buy their denbts and no one wants to buy?
this also happens in my country because the govt handed out all the commie flats to private persons and entities in 1990s and now a studio is 2-3k depending on the city and the minimum net wage is 3.4kmeanwhile in sweden the city owns majority of the housing and doesnt allow greedy niggers to make profit on housingi hate libs so much
>>214613595holy copeyeah im sure every 18 year old is a homeownerpeople live with their parents well into their 20s herePOOPLAND IS AN AFRICAN SHITHOLE
>>214617360Boomers took mortgages when it was like 8% or so. Youngsters suffer.>I assume because of the war/sanctions?Paritally. Because of overall inflation, but it started from covid times and went higher and higher.>I guess that's why rents are up while property prices are down? Kek. Everything went up. Property prices skyrocketed. They have tripled or more since covid times.
>>214617057Dug it up again. 1929.
>>214617471I took mine for 5,8% and I still suffer in this god forsaken evil country.
At least you have a decent salary
>>214617417>this also happens in my country because the govt handed out all the commie flats to private persons and entities in 1990s and now a studio is 2-3k depending on the city and the minimum net wage is 3.4kand? they would still live there even if the government didn't privatize itand remember, the government never gives anything for free, these people paid for these apartments with their own taxes, even in the communist system>meanwhile in sweden the city owns majority of the housingthe problem isn't really about that apartments people lived in were transfered to them. The problem is that cities stopped building any kind of communal housing after 1990, actually no one knows why (okay, we know why - developers lobbying for that). But it's not like they can't do it. Just for some reason people keep voting for mayors who prefer to organize whatever parades (pro-LGBT or anti-LGBT) and other shows, rather than tackle the housing issue.
>>214617649>these people paid for these apartments with their own taxes, even in the communist systemthey didnt, every citizen paid for them, but only one was allowed to buy it out for pennies> they would still live there even if the government didn't privatize itassuming that the right to rent it from the city goes to your descendants when you die, yes but you wouldnt have people buying up 10 of these appartments
>>214617727>they didnt, every citizen paid for them, but only one was allowed to buy it out for penniesbut they were granted these apartments "forever" in the communist system so if anything, the communist system was already unfair, not that they were allowed to buy them>assuming that the right to rent it from the city goes to your descendants when you die, yes and of course it would be like that because if it wasn't, and let's say you got an apartment of a deceased old woman, then her grandson wouldn't have a place to live and the problem would still stand, except it wouldn't be your problem but his problembut people like you don't really care about solving the problem as a whole, they only want to solve their own, individual problem and then they wouldn't carewhich is clear if they criticize the system of buying up communal housing, rather than simply realizing that the problem is about cities not building enough housing >yes but you wouldnt have people buying up 10 of these appartmentsthen you'd have a corrupt Polish mayor owning hundreds of houses and deciding who should get them, do you really believe it would be honest then? obviously first of all he'd give best apartments to his family, then to his friends, then to his political cronies. We don't fucking live in Sweden.
>>214617849>and of course it would be like that because if it wasn'tkek youre just assuming stuffit is inherited in austria>ad hominemkill yourself lol
>>214616434you zoomers got no clue how a mortgage work. i had a 30 year plan but obviously i was free to sell at any point. it just ment that whatever i sold for the bank demanded my loan to be paid down fully and then i got to keep the profit. this 30 year payment thing that often gets posted here is just bs and a complete missunderstanding of how things work irl. even if i decided to stay there i would after 10 years have gone from 100% finance to 50% simply because the market value of the apartment had increased that much. i did that for a few months and used part of that 50% to buy a house and once i sold the apartment i paid back all debt and got 80k in cash plus a debt free house.
>>214617897>it is inherited in austriaso if your grandma didn't get that (or get an apartment in Pcim Dolny and not in Warsaw) you would still cry and complain herebasically your problem is that you were born in a poor family, shit happens. Some people are born without a leg, some are born short and will never get a gf, and some are born in a destitute family and will never have their own house in a big city. That's just life for you. Why should I spend my tax money to fund a communal flat for you? I'd rather see the state build a new highway for that.
>>214617922How can you not understand that it doesn't work like that here?
>>214618034>ad hominem>ad hominemthank you for admitting you were wrong, i guess we cant all be financially literate
>>214617360Not sanctions, but war. Monke pays a lot for cubified cannon fodder, all the widows put that money into commieblocks. Army commanders steal everything they can and also invest that money into concrete. All the army little helpers who collect donations for mighty puzzian army, also steal the money and buy themselves as much commieblocks as they can. People who work in puzzian war related facilities, propaganda warmongers, diasporas, smugglers of sanctioned goods are doing the same.
>>214618074offcourse it does, you are just to dumb to understand it.
>>214618179obviously it's "ad hominem" because your post was literally about your own personal situation and you "hating libs" the problem in Poland is that there are simply too few apartments in big cities while all of Poland suddenly wants to live in top5 cities nowhousing in Poland is very affordable everywhere else outside the big cities, yet if you tell a modern Polish zoomer that he could buy a flat in Sosnowiec and work in a factory, he will laugh at you, because for him "life" is only when he works in a western corpo in Warsaw or Wrocław, drinks soy latte and lives in the hustling bustling city centrezoomers just have inflated expectations about how they should live, same like women have inflated expectations about their potential partners, that's just a sign of modern times but it doesn't mean other people have to conform to that
>>214618318point out a where i described my personal situation in my postyoure literally projecting
>>214618366if it wasn't a problem for you then you'd have to reason to hate anyoneyou getting so emotional about it clearly proves that it's your personal situation
>>214618393projectingi accept your conession
>>214618428He only wanted to talk down to someone, it's obvious from reading alongInshallah great misfortune will make him a factory worker in a shithole city
>>214618656bismillah angels shall smite arrogant millenial dogs
>>214615167Only in Prague though
>>214617417we also have like a ten year wait list to get one of those apartments
>>214613528>California median salary: 2400 a month>California median rent: 3000 a monthI svffer more than you
>>214613528LMAO
>>21461881330% (rent+services) is the national average for rentoids, its worse in Praha/Brno.
>>214613591Ugh…the trad lands of Rus…
>>214617471>>214617601Do you guys have fixed rates then? We have floating rent so it doesn't matter when you got the mortgage.
>>214613528you should be paying me to live in Russia.
isnt it the case in every capital city?