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Gonna make acronyms to identify phonetic vowels in diacritics

NcNbrv is /ʊ/ as in the adjective :
>सुंदर।
CBrv is /u/ as in the proper noun :
>जूलिया।
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>>214643183
what
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>>214643319
I am gonna set a configuration of mnemonic bridges to acronyms standing for phonetic vowels represented by devanagari diacritics

https://www.compart.com/en/unicode/search?q=Devanagari#characters
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Translation challenge
>Easy
Where did I park my car?
I got lost in the supermarket. It's too big and complicated.
My flight is in an hour and a half.
Why do you think she acted like that?

>Medium
I've heard some worrying things about Ireland. Is it as bad as they say?
My elderly father got scammed by a Nigerian prince.
I paid my fee for the course, but I haven't gotten a confirmation email yet.

>Hard
The police were suspicious because I didn't have my passport. They interrogated me for 15 very long minutes. Thankfully, I was able to convince them it was all a misunderstanding and they released me without charge.
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>>214643657
gtg soon so I'll just do a few
>Où est-ce que j'ai garé ma voiture?
>Je me suis perdu dans le hypermarché. C'est trop grand et compliqué.
>Mon vol est dans une heure et demi.
>Pourquoi est-ce que tu pense qu'elle a agi comme ça?
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>>214643657
मैंने आपनी कार कहाँ पार्क की।
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The perfect participle inflection of करना should be कीर/कीहऽ not की.
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>>214643460
NearcloseNearbackroundedvowel?
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3 hours of Norwegian study done.
Life is good.
Gonna have some choccy milk and then start my Japanese study.
We are gonna make it bros
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>the bengali first person singular pronoun is actually the old first person plural
wtf
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>>214643657
>ئاددىي
ماشىنام قەيەردە توختىتىپ قويدىم؟
ماگازىندا ئېزىپ قالدىم. بەك چوڭ بەك چىگىش
ئايروپىلانىم بىر يېرىم سائەت ۋاقتى بار
idk

>中级
我关于爱尔兰听说过很多让人不安心的故事。真像人说的那么破烂吗?
我年大的爸爸被尼日利亚王子骗了
我已交了学费,但还没收到缴费确认通知书

>难
因为没带护照,警察很怀疑我。给我十五分钟的讯问,感觉时间过得很慢。可巧,我凑合了让他们觉得是误会了,免罪释放了我
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I fucking love Portuguese. Lusophone culture and literature are so interesting. The best part is that I don't feel like a retard around native speakers like I do with German or Russian
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>>214645805
You replaced thou and now we have y'all and yous
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The past month I've swapped studying 5 Thai vocab words per day for 5 new sentences per day. My vocab base was around 1000 before starting this.

Is this a good trade? I'm not sure my Thai feels any better than studying vocab but then again I'm at the stage where progress feels slow right?
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>>214648716
What are your goals with Thai, if you don't mind me asking?
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>>214648752
Marry into the royal family and use my background and influence to drive out Western and Chinese influence while also shifting towards a more sustainable mode of tourism like that of Bhutan.
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What happened to the American anon who wanted to be a Russian gangster? Need a progress update.
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The Greek language is so cool I wish they didn't forget how to make remotely worthwhile media after the Cold war
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>>214648886
Interesting
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I was looking up the etymology of the word "Texas" and found out that the last native speaker of the language from which it originated died less than two months ago
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>>214643992
Yeah.
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Languages I'm interested in: German, Norwegian-Swedish, Japanese, Portuguese, Italian, French, Spanish, Russian. I'll have to give up about half of them if I want to master the remaining half of the languages at a decent level
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Languages i'm interested in: German, French, Norwegeo-Swedo-Dane, Japanese, Icelandic, Spanglish
Languages I'm interested in learning: German, French
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Another day Learning Using Texts™

Purchase a yearly subscription with discount code LUTE69
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I wanna torrent and read Céline, une vie parisienne but somehow it's on none of the usual places? Any other aspiring French learners had better luck finding it?
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Languages I'm interested in: French, German, Italian, Greek, Latin, Russian, Polish, Dutch, Swedish, Spanish, Portuguese, Finnish, Georgian, Arabic, Persian, Sanskrit, Chinese, Japanese
I cannot actually learn all these but I must dabble to some extent
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>>214652294
How dare you shill an open source program when refoldgrifting is right there?
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ئۈستگە
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found a nice little channel for European Portuguese comprehensible input
https://www.youtube.com/@portuguesetune/videos
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>>214643657
>easy

¿Donde está mi choche?

¿Donde estoy en la supermercado? ¡Es muy grande! .No me gusta.

.Mi avion sale hoy.

.Estoy muy enojado. .Ella es... muy molesta. .Si, si. .Ella no me gusta.
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What do you guys think about my pronounciation?
https://voca.ro/1h9XGVwJ6mhD
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>>214654429
German > Swedish, Dutch
Russian > Polish
More content, more people. The exception is if you live next to a community speaking another Slavic or Germanic language, or if you are fascinated by that particular language
French > Portuguese, Italian. You live in Canada
Japanese > Finnish, Greek, Georgian, Arabic, Persian
Latin > Sanskrit
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>>214658205
that's pretty much what I'm thinking, I will focus on French, German, and probably Russian eventually. then Italian and Greek just because I like them. possibly Japanese, I already started to learn it years ago. and the others would probably just be minor dabbling
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>>214643859
bon boulot
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>>214657741
Your microphone is terrible. Your pronunciation in terms of the basic sounds is very good. The only words that jumped out to me were image (where you pronounced the final syllable like "mage" (a wizard) instead of muhj), and to a lesser extent, bulletin (where the -tin should sound similar to the word "tin" by itself--in other words, with very slight aspiration--whereas yours sounded like "bulledin"). The biggest thing that would make your reading sound more natural would be to use a more natural rhythm with less disjointedness. You're also speaking in a nasally voice, and an unconfident way, which makes you come across as stereotypically "nerdy" or "geeky." Improving your rhythm and (to a lesser extent) intonation would help with that impression.
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>>214654916
>refoldgrifting
You know the refold shit in the op is pirated decks right? I dont think anyone reads the op anyway lol.
To add I think all of you are retarded and I dont listen to your advice :P
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>>214643657
Donde está el baño? Aparqué cerca de ello.
Donde está el baǹo? Me desvié en el supermercado y no lo encuentro. Es demasiado grande y complicado.
Mi vuelo sale en una hora y medía, donde está el baño?
Por qué crees que ella actuó así? Tal vez no podía encontrar donde está el baño?

He oido unas cosas turbia sobre Irlanda. Es cierto que no tienen baños publicos?
Un principe nigeriano estafó a mi viejo, le vendió un mapa de los baños falsa
Pague por el curso pero todavia no me han explicado donde está el baño

La polícia sospechaba de mí, porque no sabía donde estaba el baño. Me interrogaron durante 15 largos minutos. Hojalá les pudo convencer que era todo malentendimiento y me soltaron sin acusas.
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>>214657741
>https://voca.ro/1h9XGVwJ6mhD
mostly "images" and "register" stuck out to me
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>>214659250
So rude
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>>214659489
kek'd irl
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been studying spanish lately although i always considered romance languages kind of uninteresting and somewhat mid besides the fact that they all sound great, and the more i learn about spanish grammar, the more i like it.
i hereby apologize to all spanish speakers in the entire world
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do Japanese people normally say "hai" as often as she does?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuVGQDJOwHU
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>>214660425
isn't that just "yes"?
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>>214660524
yes, but she says it after practically every sentence. maybe just because of this context of slowly teaching and repeating things
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>>214658980
Thanks for your helpful, detailed input. I'm aware there's something off with it but i wasn't quite sure where to put my finger at.

>>214659508
Thank you for your contribution, anon.
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>>214660425
>>214660563
isn't it considered rude not to do that in japanese
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I never noticed how vowels and the variance in pronounciation of "t" were so hard to get right in spoken english.
Probably something to do with portuguese?
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>>214662162
I just realized the other day that "bottle" is pronounced almost like "boddle". I never noticed the nuances before
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>>214660425
When I would go to my Japanese friends house, he would talk to his mum in Japanese.
Practically 90% of what he would say to her was "hai".
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>>214662162
Just copy whatever people from Manchester do. Its the accent of the future (alcoholics).
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>>214648716
Damn is my question just really stupid or does no one have a good answer
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>>214659250
>waaah your joke wasn’t perfectly logical

>>214662480
I prefer studying vocab via sentences. So this seems reasonable. Studying isolated words is borderline useless.
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>>214662800
American humour be like [statement]
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I have been lurking this board for a while, it is actually hilarious how you guys are both more autistic and less productive than those heathens on r/languagelearning. I am convinced all language learning spaces are full of idiots.

>>214662941
Stfu retard
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>>214663160
He actually made fun of me last thread for being too busy going to Latin mass and reading Latin to remember to shitpost in English on /lang/.
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>>214663231
In fairness that is even gayer than posting here.
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>>214663160
>I am convinced all language learning spaces are full of idiots.
How many languages do you speak, wise one?
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>>214663427
3: English obviously, Czech because I am part Czech and Swedish because I thought there would be baddies there (there is not, most Swedish women look like Greta does now)
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>>214663296
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>>214663623
>Czech because I am part Czech
How do you feel about Canadians fetishizing your language/country?
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>>214663729
>small sample
>online surveys
>say they are hyperpolyglots plus a bunch of other rare characteristics
>"I'm a gay left-handed retard with ligma and I speak 20 languages"
the lizardman constant
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>>214663729
I have a cat allergy. That is about it really. I guess I might be autistic, but I can look people in the eyes and I am a pretty good wagie. I have a pretty cool job which involves going to Sweden a lot.

>>214663768
>How do you feel about Canadians fetishizing your language/country?
Good for them. Its an alright country. Random little towns where grandparents and shit live are way cooler than Prague or the more touristy areas. Tourist areas are full of Romani, Turk and other Arab scammers.
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>>214662162
Anglophone (or at least I'm speaking for Americans), thinking about t sounds is not very precise. We don't think in terms of aspirated and non-aspirated t sounds, or t turning into a d sound. We think in terms of proper degree of annunciation. For example (>>214662380), if you aspirated the t sound (think "bah"+"toll"), it would sound over-annunciated and ridiculous except in those contexts (primarily certain styles of singing) where over-annunciation is expected. On the other hand, pronouncing "bulletin" as "bulledin" sounds muddled and lacking the expected annunciation. You can probably figure out some rules

>>214662380
I don't think "bottle" is a true d sound. Compare words that have a "tt" in the middle versus those with a "dd" in the middle. For example, "meddle" versus "mettle." We naturally pronounce these words differently, and we can hear a difference between these sounds, but at the higher level of thinking, we paper over these differences using our overly simplistic alphabet.
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>>214663924
When I visit your country I'll make sure to visit your grandma
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>>214664162
She doesn't like brown people, so as long as you are white you should be fine.
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>>214664303
I am, that's one of the things I like about your country
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>>214663924
I was in Prague like 3 years ago and didn’t see middle easterners. Karlstejn is a great little village btw in terms of tourism, there should still be this antique shop on the road to the castle owned by an old Jewish couple that sells a bunch of Nazi artifacts, among other things, at very good prices. I’ve been all around much of the countryside though.
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>>214664535
>an old Jewish couple that sells a bunch of Nazi artifacts
Curious
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>>214657741
Turn off the audio settings.
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Is learning Japanese worth it? I want to read Suugaku Golden (kino btw) but the translation team that were doing that abandoned it, so raws are my only choice.
I also want to play some untranslated weeb vidya,
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>>214663623
Swedish women are He-mans?
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>>214643657
I know I have spelling errors, I can't be fucked to switch to a french keyboard.


>Ou est-ce que j'ai garé ma voiture?

>J'ai devenu perdu dans la supermarché. Elle est trop grande et compliqué.

>Mon vol est dans une heure et demi.

>Pourquoi crois-tu qu'elle avait un compartement comme ça?

>J'ai entendu des choses inquetant de L'Irelande... Est-ce que c'est si mauvais comment les gens disent?

>Mon pere âgé etait arnaqée par un prince nigerian.

>J'avais payé le frais pour le cours, mais je n'ai pas recu un conformation encore.

>La police etait suspiceux parce-que je n'avais pas mon passeport. Ils m'ont interrogé pour 15 minutes longue. Heureusment, j'ai reussi de les convaincre que c'etait tous un malentendu et ils m'ont laissé sans m'inculpé.
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>>214664995
My french isn't good enough to correct most of this, but I know
>pour 15 minutes longue
Should be
>pendant 15 longues minutes
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>>214662380
>>214663998
the sound you're hearing in bottle (at least in general american dialects) is a "tapped r", or more specifically a voiced alveolar tap.
/d/ is pretty close when it comes to tongue/mouth articulation, which is why it might sound similar.
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>>214649866
He moved to Thailand where he trains muay thai. He has a yt channel.
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>>214664995
>J'ai devenu perdu dans la supermarché. Elle est trop grande et compliqué.
Je me suis perdu. Il. grand. compliqué
>Pourquoi crois-tu qu'elle avait un compartement comme ça?
*t'as crus qu'elle a eu
>J'ai entendu des choses inquetant de L'Irelande... Est-ce que c'est si mauvais comment les gens disent?
inquiétant. comme les gens le-disent.
>Mon pere âgé etait arnaqée par un prince nigerian.
Mon vieux père a été arnaqué. Nigérian.
>J'avais payé le frais pour le cours, mais je n'ai pas recu un conformation encore.
les frais. mais je n'ai pas encore reçu la confirmation.
>La police etait suspiceux parce-que je n'avais pas mon passeport. Ils m'ont interrogé pour 15 minutes longue. Heureusment, j'ai reussi de les convaincre que c'etait tous un malentendu et ils m'ont laissé sans m'inculpé.
était suspicieuse. intérrogé pendant 15 minutes. j'ai réussi à les convaincre que c'étais un malentendu.

nice try
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>>214665625
Link?
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>>214666299
Are you a chud? Otherwise, you won't enjoy it.
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>>214666451
I will
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>>214666538
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wKiTelkTBRc&pp=2AYG
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>>214666630
Thanks
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>>214664703
Every japanese media feels much better without translation, so if youre a weeb this is your natural choice
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>>214646089
You're supposed to actually translate via learning, bong.
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When you can read jajuz posts, you will be fluent in Polish.
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>>214643183
>phonetic
>uses phonemic notation
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I need to speak English at work, would anyone learning Spanish be interested in speaking with me? The goal is to be a bit more fluent and less awkward when talking.

I'm a guy in his 30s, fairly educated and am serious about learning, don't care if you are a guy or a gall. Already tried "language apps" and they are awful.
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>>214665572
and also why ESLs approximate using /d/
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>>214658980
>The biggest thing that would make your reading sound more natural would be to use a more natural rhythm with less disjointedness.
>the thing that would fix your pronunciation is fixing your pronunciation
big if true
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bump
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Do you ever listen to two things in your TL at the same time?
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>>214650757
caddo kawa
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>>214670061
no, I'm not that insane
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>>214670283
You could be learning twice as fast
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>>214667294
Translation?
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>>214670721
>kurwa ja nie chcę znów iść kurwa do pracy pomóżcie mi błagam was ja już nie mogę
>fuck i don't want to go to fucking work again help me guys im begging you i cant do this anymore
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>>214667866
I was more specific than that. By rhythm I mean to speak more fluently, without careless pausing and stumbling, and to make sure the words have proper rhythms. Phonetically and in terms of things like word accent his reading was mostly quite good.
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I already miss Canadian female jordie
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I'm the anti-jordie. Permanently hyperfixated to one language. Been learning TL on /lang/ for years.
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>>214671016
She wasn't a jordie because she picked a lang
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>>214657741
How many American YouTubers do you watch? I can barely hear your accent except on the words register and images
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>>214671463
Which one was it ?
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Bampu
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>>214667549
Care to elaborate what do you mean? I am not diferencing homophones.
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/f/ is not proper working since the hacking.
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Spanish bros, how often would you use ¿ and ¡ when you are writing casually, texting, using something like discord or online games etc?
I ask because I was taught you always use ¿ and ¡ even in informal discussion but on 4chan nobody ever uses these punctuation symbols and once I even got mocked on /lat/ for using the ¿
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Also while I'm here did you know that originally Proto-Indo-European had 2 grammatical genders, animate / inanimate, and yes you could actually tell what gender any given thing was based on whether it moved or not.
How fucking far Indo-European languages have since fallen, with genderless languages, 3 gender languages, common/neutral gender, masculine and feminine genders that in no way line up with whether a given object is actually masculine or feminine...
I wonder how, when and why people started breaking that original sensible animate/inanimate gender system
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>>214674346
iirc the feminine came from the inanimate plural being used for abstract nouns, which eventually split into a third gender.
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>>214674346
Given that the features of PIE were mostly dreamed up by academics based on almost non-existent evidence I suspect that it came out more regular than it actually was in practice.
Is a river animate or inanimate? What about the sun, the moon, plants and abstract things? Does hatred move on its own?
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>>214667059
wat
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I'm pretty racist and all, but if I were a yank I would definitely learn the local indigenous language. They're cool and would make me feel extra connected to the land
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ئۈستگە بارىڭ!
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>>214671835
I believe she got czeched
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>>214677286
That shit is too hard and not enough resources. Trust me. I learned a language that is considered one of the hardest in the world, and, after my experience with two of them, I've come to the conclusion that Indigenous North American languages are worse.
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>>214677286
Even if you view other races as inferior (which is a pretty cringe thing to even care about) it's still useful to learn the language of those you deem inferior to you.
I'm learning French, for example.
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>>214680786
Ahahahh alri de boyo xx
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this portguese cunt is a queer and reports people who say shit he doesnt like
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>>214681469
He's not as bad as the Brit who shit posts about learning languages.
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I replied ONE time "reported" as a joke and I got banned for it because it's apparently its against the rules to do that
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>>214682157
I've been banned for simply bumping this general
Tbqh not sure if it was that because the ban reason was just "spam" with no post reference
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>>214664995
Check windows language settings. Windows key + space should be your go-to muscle memory. I don't know how baguette works but every piece of orthography should be only one extra stroke away regardless of your physical keyboard.
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>>214682157
But that's not fair. It's only against the rules to "[reply] to a thread stating that you've reported... another post." Simply declaring that a post was reported without specifying the agent who reported it isn't explicitly against the rules.
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>>214680786
>it's still useful to learn the language of those you deem inferior to you.
>I'm learning French, for example.
I lol'd
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>>214671016
I miss her too :(
Such a sausage fest without her
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>>214682827
I'm not even sure what purpose that rule serves other than to just give the jannies something to do.
I still think it's funny if someone posts something lame like "I'm a biological male/female" and someone replies "reported" as a joke obviously, it seems the jannies don't find that very funny.
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>>214671016
She seemed lowkey underage and/or autistic. Probably went back to school now that summer is over.
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Anyone know of good high beginner low intermediate content in Thai? So far I've been watching SpongeBob and Thai dudes traveling around Africa vlogs
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I am learning Classical Manchu. It’s fun
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>>214685893
https://buleku.org/home
https://www.manchustudiesgroup.org/
https://manc.hu/en
https://barbarismmethod.wordpress.com/2022/09/11/an-autodidacts-guide-to-teaching-yourself-manchu-for-academic-purposes-if-you-know-english-and-chinese/
https://www.saksaha.org/

you would probably find these websites useful, I have them from when I had a year-long dabble in Manchu
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>>214684883
Have you looked at this channel?

https://www.youtube.com/@ComprehensibleThai
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Is this thing good for shadowing? I'd like to plug it into my speakers.
Some guy in an earlier thread recommended the bose quiet comfort 35, but I read that it needs to be recharged in order to use noise canceling, even if you're using it wired.
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Anyone have free resources to learn German (A1) ? Free pls
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>>214688087
deutsch nach der naturmethode
assimil german
both are easy to pirate
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>>214686112
>Actually posts resources
We need more Brits like you here instead of the faggot who posts about "le failed languages learners."
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>>214688195
I can’t pirate things and I have no friends but ok I will look if I can find a free off or something
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>>214688496
literally just use anna's archive
dndnm is on archive.org
https://archive.org/details/deutsch-nach-der-naturmethode_202312
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>>214688496
PDF **
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>>214688496
here's the one I got, comes with audio so it's quite large, and download speed is slow
https://annas-archive.org/md5/a0cc70d8ca038d5ace595c0ecfa04cb3

>>214688627
also for this book, there is audio for the first few chapters here
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLf8XN5kNFkhc0J7rC_vQMUBIVdaj---V5
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>>214688087
https://learngerman.dw.com/ of course
also https://www.languagetransfer.org/german which isn't a standalone course, but it's useful
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Does anyone have a cracked pleco apk?
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Thanks Canada and Ukraine anons for helping me who can’t hack
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>>214671016
>anonymously simping
do you really
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Swedish bros, any youtube channel recommendations? Anything related to gaming, technology, psychology, history, video essays in general.

It seems a lot of Swedes choose to do content in English because it's a bigger market.
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>>214686336
Yea it's just so boring. Thanks for replying though
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German or Norwegian today? One has more content, the second one is easier
I've missed Canadian fem Jordie, fuk
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>>214693939
>I've missed Canadian fem Jordie, fuk
I don't get the hype
She just wanted to learn Czech
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>>214694104
>Czech
Czech is cool. What are you learning?
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>>214693939
Norwegian
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>>214694104
I sympathize with all the Jordans here
>>214694574
Ok, so English, Japanese and Norwegian. I hope they gonna do backflis when I say ha det bra and oyl takk
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>>214693939
Deutsch, you get 3 countries unlocked
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>>214695106
But I'm already learning English and doing a little Japanese
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>>214693939
Maybe she’ll come back someday and write in Czech or something
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>>214695306
Ahoj, jak se máš?
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cesky jezyk je kakaovy chlebicek
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>>214696380
This is what Borat says
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>>214696574
Is that supposed to be a bad thing? It sounds nice
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>>214688195
>deutsch nach der naturmethode
it has grammar mistakes and appears to be a forgery
Studien und Plaudereien ( https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/22160 ) maybe is old, but authentic and much longer. Italian and French contemporaneous counterparts of Deutsch nach der Naturmethode (Jensen's) don't appear to have grammar mistakes, but still sound archaic (Italian for example uses "non avere che")
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>>214694797
what level are you at after that long?
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>>214697415
how can you tell it's a forgery?
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>>214674164
It's dropped entirely in casual settings, since most questions are short you can see the '?'. Accents are also dropped, but not as much, you may have noticed this. It also doesn't help that most Spanish speakers cannot properly write their own language.

I'd suggest only using '¿' when writing formal texts or emails, nobody really cares outside of those settings. But I'd advise against dropping accents since it could hinder your learning.
>>214663160
>you guys are both more autistic and less productive than those heathens on r/languagelearning
And you'd be right. Which is why I barely drop by the thread to help anons learning Spanish, hopefully they've found some other place to actually learn the language.
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>>214697951
initially i just had such a feeling. it doesn't have IPA like the other books. then, I found out about Dansk efter naturmetoden, also released by the Ayan academy, the IPA transcription is total bullshit. of course, the convention is different, there are different symbols and the vowels changed a lot in the past decades, but the way lenition is described in it is completely different than on wiktionary, it might as well be AI generated.
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>>214698427
very strange that they would forge such a thing instead of simply releasing a new book. but the German one has a less detailed title page and lacks a preface, compared to English/French/Italian. goodreads only lists those 3 in the series
https://www.goodreads.com/series/297442-languages-by-the-nature-method

the font is different in German, and the text at the top of the page can be misaligned
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>>214699544
this comment claims the German is translated from the English. I don't know how true that is, or if French and Italian were also close to English to begin with. but it's at least true English and German have 2 named kids and the unnamed baby/Das Baby, while French and Italian have 4 named kids
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>>214699674
English/Italian/French use em dashes for blank words in the exercises, while German uses hyphens
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>>214643657
Haven't seen one of these in eons
Я cлышaл мнoгo тpeвoжных вeщeй oб Иpлaндии. Heyжeли тaм дeйcтвитeльнo тaк плoхo, кaк гoвopят?
Moeгo cтapoгo oтцa oбмaнyл нигepийcкий пpинц
Я зaплaтил зa кypc, нo я нe пoлyчил имeлй c пoдтвepждeниeм
Пoлиция пoдoзpeвaeт мeня, тaк кaк y мeня нe был пacпopт. Meня дoпpaшивaли в тeчeниe 15 oчeнь дoлгих минyт. Mнe к cчacтью yдaлocь yбeдит их, чтo вcё этo былo нeдopaзyмeниeм, и мeня oтпycтили бeз oбвинeния
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How do I get to write this good?
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>>214701093
it's so funny to me that in english good writing is when you string together a lot of latin words. truly the language of the soulless
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I swear I've heard French people pronounce "in"/"im" in two different ways, [œ̃] or [ɛ̃]. I usually hear [œ̃] in Youtube videos but Wiktionary only has [ɛ̃] for words like "intéressant" etc.
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>>214701544
anglos desperately wish they were descendants of romans. well, should've not exchanged british romance for an ugly anglosaxon-norse-norman french creole.

>>214701798
most french people don't pronounce [ɛ̃]. itˈs [æ̃], [ã] or somethinɡ, sometimes it even sounds like [ɔ̃], even the "in" vowel which isn't supposed to be a front rounded vowel.
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>>214701898
I see, this video seems to explain it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdMORya9Z_A
I'm going with the sound that isn't [ɛ̃] because it's easier, and it sounds more familiar for "un" (1)
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I psyopped the library into expanding their TL collection. They went from 3 books in TL to 10 since the start of 2025.
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>>214701544
>in english good writing is when you string together a lot of latin words.
People who write this way usually just come off pretentious to native speakers. It’s midwit writing. They often also dislike Tolkien, who wrote about as heavily with Germanic roots as is really possible.
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>>214703589
based tolkien. fuck latin and latin languages. bunch of gay degenerate pedos
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>>214680786
>Even if you view other races as inferior
An opinion

>(which is a pretty cringe thing to even care about)
A deep emotional attachment to that opinion

Two unconnected concepts. Like saying “even if you think the coasts of Africa and South America line up (an observation) it’s a pretty cringe thing to care about.” In this way you implicitly tie belief/opinion to cringe emotionalism. I won’t even call you ESL for this because most Native speakers do this too (being unable to differentiate between beliefs and values) because our education on critical thinking and logic is horrible.
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Bros, where are all the spanish youtubers?
I keep searching, and I even watch the videos, but now youtube only wants to suggest me spanish incel videos because I clicked on one - when english incel videos are better.
What are actually GOOD spanish channels where it's someone speaking rapidly with slang and not just some guy sitting at a camera talking at me clearly?
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>>214703589
but somehow shakespeare is never called pretentious for the same reasons. if the oxford dictionary is to be believed (it is not) then a lot of english words have first been popularized by him and his works. i get that his whole deal was that he was good at using different registers of english, but it is also said that he coined words which largely were just latin words with affixes.
>greatest writer of the english
>wishes he were french
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>>214704720
He lived 500 years ago and the dynamic relationship between Latin and the average person was totally different then. Plus a lot of his works were based on Latin texts.

It’s totally different for a society where everyone learned can read Latin to introduce Latinity into the language. It’s basically how it entered German too. That’s very different from someone in 2025 overusing Latinate words in an attempt to sound intelligent. Also Shakespeare’s usage and prose broke new ground, and sits among the pinnacle of the language.
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>>214704720
>wishes he were french
Should’ve addressed this before. Even Old English had a substantial amount of Latin loanwords. Loaning directly from Latin over the centuries has basically nothing to do with the French. Also, you Germans speak a conlang anyways, while the American tongue is free, unregulated, natural, and thereby maintains peerless expressive versatility.
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>tfw Google Translate's new language practice feature is so vastly superior to everything else on the market
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>>214704865
is this only available on mobile phones?
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>>214704865
Let me guess, it's available in Beta for 6 languages only?
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>>214705084
Even worse, Spanish and French only. But it will converse with you on any topic you request and give you hints on what to say if you get stuck. It will also role-play as service workers while you practice being a tourist who needs to ask as question about something.
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>>214705164
Wow.

Just wow.
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>>214701278
funny that this guy has Johhny Silverhead avi, because Johnny would hate his guts
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मैंने आपनी कार कहाँ पार्क की
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>>214705164
Spanish Chads we eating good
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I think for a target language since redditors always say to use Harry Potter because it’s a long series that they love, I’m just going to sit down with a contemporary-language edition of the bible in my TL and read the whole thing as my core reading input for the first year since I have entire chapters nearly memorized.
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https://youtu.be/i3Hhid-yemY
peak unemployment activity
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>>214706369
reading is a waste of time
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im thinking of increasing my time in other languages till there is no time for 4chan.
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>>214706369
A lot of people learn a language by reading the bible (or, more often, the gospel, which is at least more interesting than the fictional history of the jews). The problem is that the bible tends to be translated in a slightly unnatural old-timey sounding style.
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What's your /lang/ related dream guys? Mine is displacing all the arab population in egypt and reviving hieroglyphs (or at least coptic) as the main language
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>>214709610
One world language based on rationality and efficiency
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>>214709610
Bulgarian should have cases. It's shameful that they're worse at being Slavic than their Romance neighbors.
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>>214709765
to compensate for losing cases, Bulgarian has the most conservative verb system of the Slavic languages. It also developed evidentiality for some reason.
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Who? created language?
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>>214708297
>tends to be
Depends on the translation available I guess. The gospels are specifically the easiest to read, and centered around a lot of intentionally basic phrases of “X went to Y and did Z so that A” type of stuff. It beats Harry Potter lol. I’ve been using it for Latin and even just a couple weeks of reading practice has dramatically opened up the readability of a pretty wide range of texts for me. What a late beginner needs is basically just a shitload of practice comprehending essential wordings/sentences. The Gospels fit that best, but I flipped to a random page of Deuteronomy and found the wording to be substantially the same. Reading all of the narrative texts is at least worthwhile. It’s hilarious that Arguelles spends a whole video talking about the “Harry Potter Stage” of language learning without ever discussing the Bible’s use in this way. For my part, I’m going to read it daily anyways, and I have already read it in English, so I might as well use it as a way to build reading ability.

>>214709610
Latin-based Papal States Zionism
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>>214710584
>-йки when the -щ- reflexes are still alive
>both -нe and -ниe
>дaм дaдeш ям ядeш, next thing you know they'll be saying имaм имaдeш
>cъм always clitic but бих often the first word and stressed
>нe гó видях
I want to love it, I really do.
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>>214709610
That Portuguese was just Spanish. As it would make the main Romance languages a literal Holy Trinity (Spanish, French, and Italian) and make South American travel a bit more easier.



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