Now that the dust has settled, was this a good decision?
>>214651767I wonder if – instead of „Remain” – the results would've been closer or reversed had the ballot presented „Stay” or „Persist” instead. >Leave the European Union VS. >Stay in the European Union>Leave the European UnionVS. >Persist in the European Union >Leave >Remain >Leaf >Remain(a)There's definitely some psychological hypnosis based upon accentuation, vowel-consonant acupuncture verbiage...
>>214651767no refunds>>214652107meds
What did they really gain is the question? The uk governments since have been 10x as draconian on speech/surveillance as the EU, immigration has increased, inflation went to shit, two governments collapsed, exporting/importing and freedom of movement limitedI get the feeling of wanting to be independent, but the argument was always about ”We don’t want to be ruled over by tyrants in brussels” but their own tyrants seem much worse? So what’s the point?
>>214651767Sir Humphrey was defeated that day.
If I was British I'd be right bloody pissed, even moreso if I was a leave-voter
They just realized EU was a ponzi scheme organization. They left from the group for ethical reason, not for their own interest.
>>214651767It made me realise that there really is no good option and that we only have the illusion of choice in anything relating to the government or governance in general.
reminder that democracy is the dictatorship of the majority
>>214651767Yes and given the amount of jeets, pakis and blacks that are now "british" we should never let them in again
>>214651767Yes, Britain is too important to just be an EU member state. The EU is a supranational union for continentals who've nearly all been occupied by each other in living memory, so they don't care about national sovereignty since they can't defend it alone.21 of the 27 EU countries have experienced foreign military occupation, 22 if you count Ireland. Malta, Portugal, Spain, and Sweden are the only ones who've not lost their national sovereignty in living memory. It's a joke union of conquered countries.>>214652199National sovereignty, the collapse of the Tory party, currently the collapse of the Labour Party, and set the stage for Nigel Farage being the next PM.Yeah obviously the final labour and tory governments have been dreadful. Thats why Reform is leading in the polls
>>214652374you want less immigrants? Here 1mil indians and africans a year
The 72% turnout always seemed quite low to me, our most recent and way less consequential referendum got a 91% turnout for comparison.>>214652438It clearly isn't though, has your own pm really done what those that voted for her wanted?Did the people who voted for brexit get what they wanted?
>>214652563Also Finland but then again not really. Malta was owned by Britain. So literally just Spain, which had a brutal civil war, and Portugal and Sweden, which are on the far edges of Europe and mostly irrelevantSo only two irrelevant eu countries have not been occupied in living memory. 25 of 27 have been
>>214652563Do you feel sovereign?The joke is that Britain merely imposed its imperialism on their own people now. That's why hanging a flag of england is "contentious".Britons became just another ethnicity of India, and are treated like any indian secessionist.When continental Europe is occupied is by other Europeans. When the UK gets occupied is by Indians (who now own more property in London than native Britons).
>>214652563The Uuukaaay is literally under American occupation right now moron, Orwell didn't come up with 'Airstrip One' for nothing.The French are the ones who actually had the balls to demand that they leave.
>>214651767Yes
>>214652563britain is a past-its-glory crumbling brick shithole that can't even make a waffle iron (mine is made in britain, it sucks). britains glory days are over, you have nothing.
>>214652563>Nigel Farage being the next PM.
>>214652374Or maybe the issue was that you were ascribing a national problem (immigration policy) to an institution that has no control over it (the EU) and were left flabbergasted when you continued to receive migrants at the same, if not faster, rate as before.
>>214651767in practical terms im not sure theres been one single benefit
>>214651767Honestly it changed fuck all but remainers will say otherwise.
>>214653255Trump gave you a 5% tariff break for helping him out with destabilising the EU, so there is that.
>>214651767It was a good decision.However, out shitty government decided that they were going to do everything in their power to ignore the spirit of the vote and sign us up to most EU law anyway and import even more 3rd worlders so it changed almost nothing.
>>214653198EU immigration went down, which is what the goal was. Non EU immigration going up wasn't to do with Brexit, it was down to shit government. >inb4 'What about that scheme where we could return migrants we had when we were in the EU'We returned about a few hundred people in that, it was useless.
>>214651767Overall bad for the common person there I reckon. The EU kept London on somewhat of a leash, but once that was gone the government had free reign to shit up the country. Poles out pakis in innit
>>214651767There will be another vote in the next decades and they will rejoin.Question is not if, but when...
>>214652563You don't seriously think farage will save you lot? He's the biggest shabbos goy around. The guy doesn't even say he wants to kick out immigrants, it's only ever "illegals", the 800k pakis and Indians coming over every year are perfectly fine
>>214653458Bollocks, we're not re-joining it, there would be no fucking benefit and we'd have to pay out of our arse to join it.
>>214653357Yeah, your government needs a certain number of people to keep the figures in order so once they can no longer get them from Eastern Europe they instead go for India and Africa. And you will continue to get browned, watch Farage deport """the illegals"""(a few thousand people) and keep importing hundreds of thousands of third worlders.
>>214653533You're just mad that you can no longer move here
>>214653357>Umm actually it was always about the poles and Romanians and not about the boat people, just a funny little accident that it all happened immediately after 2015 hahaYou're hilarious mate
>>214653549It was about the pole and romanians, that was the whole fucking point, leaving the EU would stop freedom of movement and stop them coming here. Mental how Brexit makes both continentals and Remainers seethe to no fucking end. I suppose Germans have invested the most into it so feel the need to defend it.
>>214653085A joke five years ago, but looking increasingly likely as the years tick by.
>>214653545I was thinking about it at some point but equating your law degree over to the English system is fucking AIDS, it's like getting a new one altogether.
>>214652107I heard that words with Germanic root are more poignant to British ppl
>>214653492you do realize germany and france are currently watching in delight as you turn into a second world country, do you? for two centuries you meddled in continental politics, and now you're gone. isn't it wonderful?
>>214654135Britain isn't doing that bad, stop being so melodramatic. If anything they're outperforming some continental countries like Germany with the current crisis and all.
>>214654135Yes it's definitely just us going to shit, nobody else, the rest of Europe are doing really well.
>>214654299>outperformingdoubt.jpg. by the way, what services does britain offer? car industry is gone, shipbuilding is gone, steel works is gone, agriculture is a footnote, there's no raw resources to speak of left, tourism is a joke compared to continental nations. all britain has left worth mentioning are bank holdings, and they're now dancing on the tune of orange man.
>>214652563What important things has the UK done since 2016
>>214651767It was only the first step, too early to make conclusions Reunification with Canada and supression of rioters in Northern American states is still ahead
>>214652107Cringe
>>214654806Be the primary nation standing up for Ukraine in Europe
>>214651767I think brexit exterminated the british people.
>>214656247That would be Poland
>>214651767it was over regardlesscannot wait to leave this shithole
>>214651767it was irrelevant as they remained an EU puppet to this day
>>214656369You mean the country that was protecting against Ukrainians?
>>214653908germanic vs romance synonyms in english are too deep a subject for an adequate discussion to be contained in a 4chan thread. it is the real measure of fluency. if you can understand the difference between skull and cranium you are native-level.
>>214656247>standing up for UkraineCringe.
>>214651767>took back control of its borders>stopped subsidising eastern europe and reinvested saved billions in healthcare and local infrastructure>major economic boom, Britain the Singapore of Europe>manufacturing base restored>sovereignty clawed back from Brussels, UK a major great power againNow imagine what Farage will achieve when he wins the elections
>>214657863Why? Because Putin and Russia are so epic and based and trad and Ukraine is gay and vaccinated and WEF? Something like that?
Britain only compares itself to France and since France has been doing worse than Britain for 200 years, Britain always thinks it did the right thing.
>>214651767They don't seem to think so themselves at least.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potential_re-accession_of_the_United_Kingdom_to_the_European_Union#2025
>>214659548It's going back towards staying out now, Reform UK winning and all.
>>214657934Why fuel an invincible war? Unless you want NATO to join in we all know how this is going down. Massive hohols deaths just to fragilize russians.
>>214652199Isn't the question what they gained from EU membership if nothing changed? Their net contribution was 1% of their overall spending
>>214659848Tbf I think that's mostly the point now. Ukraine loses less men overall, but each one they lose makes them more economically reliant on the West. The West can also vilify Russia with each passing day that the war continues. Russia also has lost at least a million men for a small stretch of land. I think the goal of this is for it go on as long as possible to worsen Russia's demographic problems and weaken their economy while also making them look bad on the global stage. As long as Russia is distracted and caught up in this war, they're also less likely to start wars with the rest of Europe. Also they may get to such a point of desperation that they back down and allow for Ukraine to join NATO/EU in the peace deal.
>>214662468>Russia also has lost at least a million menYou must be a genuine retard if you believe those numbers.
>>214662590You're right, I should believe glorious mother Russia instead of international studies from multiple independent organizations. Thank you convict descendant for opening my eyes.
It would have been if their elected government had followed through and stopped the boats. Instead they were assigned traitors that increased the immigration by 5x.
>>214662468Lmao America is losing its influence. Trump has done great deal of damage.
>>214662710That has nothing to do with what I said. Why are all Australian posters drunken retards?
>>214662667Neither side are reliable.The simple fact is, Ukraine just doesn't have the manpower to beat Russia.
>>214653392>>214653458>>214653487>>214653549Don't know why the Germs are getting uppity when they are one of the few EU nations to have had worse economic growth than us. You also have way more migrants, and WAY more repressive speech laws. Know your place, and go back to huffing lignite fumes in the comfort of your Magdeburg cuckhouse while eating the Dönnerschlupenburgschgappelgop goop that Mehmet deigned to throw your way. You worm.
>>214662946Yeah but they're also significantly richer than you so they have quite a bit of room to fall before they're on your level.
>>214663098Not going to be lectured on wealth by a Romanian. Sorry!