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>>214651864
You reminded me of my last trip to Iran. Definitely going there again.
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>>214652180
Nice, which cities you visited?
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>>214651864
Iran forgot all about their beautiful culture after 1979
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>>214654112
Don't worry, eventually we will return to our ancient history and culture.
Happened many times in our history.
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كسم حياتي
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>>214651864
Thread theme: https://youtu.be/dEXIIT38G0o
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>>214654837
You will never not be Islamic now, and that's a good thing, being a fire worshipping pagen like those fruity niggers from avatar is cringe
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They killed Mo :(
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This summer was so cold, it's unreal @_@
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>>214656246
>fire worshipping pagen
Zoroastrianism is oldest monotheist religion in the world and you're jealous because it predate Judaism.
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>>214657536
It's not monotheistic
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>>214657803
It is, they worship Ahura Mazda which is Allah.
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>>214652180
>>214653987
I recent became an employee and received paychecks, Plan to travel to Iran soon. Recommend me a place.
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>>214651864
Why can we ever have high resolution photos of these places???
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>>214656649
We love you Noor
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Hello saars
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>>214656649
Come back to us ABdul...
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>>214656649
Are you the poster on /vn/? Or are they fucking with us? Enlighten us please.
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>>214651864
I wanted to post something but I forgot what it was.
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>>214660958
It's okay
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نحن في الجنة
و الدليل الحديث القدسي حيث يقول تعالى
>أعددتُ لعبادي الصالحينَ ما لا عينٌ رأت ولا أذنٌ سمعت ولا خطرَ على قلبِ بشرٍ

شات جي بي تي و لابوبو و تويتر كلها شغلات ما رآها ولا سمعها بشر ولا خطرت على قلوبهم وقت نزول الحديث
لذلك نحن في الجنة
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Imma go jerk off
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>>214652180
your talking to a vpnnigger bro
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>>214654958
What are these strange runes?
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>>214658099
ت. كوروش علي الرضا
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>>214660745
it's him
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السوق الشرقي في الرحاب
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>>214665445
الباب الشرقي في بغداد
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>>214666884
الشبشب الشرقي في حلقك
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>>214656246
Being Islamic if fine as long as you are not forcing it hard on people like Iran and Afghanistan

>>214658099
Its not exactly Allah tho
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>>214657536
>>214658099
I prefer Iran's history with Sarvastivada Buddhism. Zoroastrianism, Islam, Christianity, and Judaism are all backwards Messianic traditions.
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>>214668156
I don't get why Christians and Muslims play victim all the time saying their holy books are more peaceful then the other when the violence in the books is on par with each other.
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>>214656246
That would've been based if said by a human being and not a demon incarnate
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>>214668222
Right, and they feel they have to impose their ways onto others in order to "save" them. They are also obsessed with apocalyptic prophecies, viewing world history in that linear progressive eschatological lens. All of this schizophrenia unfortunately began with the Zoroastrian notion of Frashokereti, which led to Tikkun Olam, Second Coming, Day of Judgment, or whatever bullshit.
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>>214668222
christ cucks are pacified cucks no wonder hitler said he prefers islam
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>>214667983
>Its not exactly Allah tho
Ahura Mazda means wise Lord. Allah is called wise
Ahura Mazda has 101 names. Allah has 99 names + Allah for 100 total

The only issue is the amesha spents is hard to read and talks about how the earth doesn't want its dead so they have to be taken up to a 'light tower' to be eaten by vultures when they die. The religion has been changed, and it's where the word "magic" comes from. They are called magi, and they were the original hiders of knowledge
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>>214668407
>amesha spents
Avesta
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>>214661585
لسا فيه الدابة
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>>214660691
كونيتشيوا عليك ورحمة الله
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>>214667392
الحقن الشرجي في طيزك
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>>214668313
I don't hate all Christians or Muslims I have Christian and Muslim friends but I hate it when some of them just force religion or just play victim but you will see the same type of violence in the Quran and the Bible.
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>>214668596
>but you will see the same type of violence in the Quran and the Bible.
Show me
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>>214668313
Every single religion has an eschatology
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>>214668639
I was referring to a "linear" eschatology with emphasis on an "end times" or "renovating the world".
The belief "one can reach a universal understanding of the world through reason or abstractions" and that "one can thereby improve the world via increases in conceptual knowledge" are all born from the logocentric elements from Mazdaism and Abrahamism, and they have led to the devastation of industrialization. The Anthropocene is the magickal incarnation of Original Sin. There was no reason to feel guilt prior to industrialization, but now there are plenty of reasons as we're wreaking havoc on ecosystems on a global scale.
>>214668596
I have a few I consider acquaintances, but I don't have any I would truly refer to as a friend. All Mazdaists and Abrahamists are icchantikas who will suffer for countless kotis of kalpas for spreading delusion. I also despise how they view the natural world. Most of these morons still cannot Common Descent. Common Descent indicates all sentient beings possess Buddhanature, yet these people act worse than shit-flinging chimpanzees when trying to courteously discuss this topic. Most Buddhists have no issue accepting Common Descent and acknowledging shared Buddhanature in all sentient beings. The evidence is also overwhelming.
In fact, there are times when I think Mazdaists and Abrahamists are not fully sentient. They forfeit sentience by letting their God's commandments do the thinking for them.
If I could take over Iran, I would wage genocidal Dharmic war on every single Abrahamic and Mazdaist community, but it's much harder to achieve this in post-industrial times. I am just saying that is most ideal. I have absolutely no qualms destroying both Iran's Zoroastrian and Islamic holy sites and replacing them with sanghas. I say this out of compassion and "thinking far ahead."
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>>214668897
Gay. Buddhism says to let go of your desires but it's clear you want to be a faggot
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>>214668979
There have been Buddhist warriors throughout history. One can fight against Mara as a kind of samurai or so on. Abrahamists and Mazdaeists are responsible for this global crisis with their delusions of "progress."
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>>214669011
Don't be an ass. Buddhism is cool and all, but it's not even a religion in the truest sense of the word
It could also never compete with the Abrahamic religions
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>>214668610
1 Samuel 15:3

Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy[a] all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’”

Quran 9:5
But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.
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>>214669199
Looks like your reading comprehension is off, bud. I bet you a gpt could tell you how contrived it is to compare one that says "kill their infants" with one that says "stop if they repent" and say they are the same level of violence
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>>214669192
>it's not even a religion in the truest sense of the word
Only illiterate simple-minded and classless people argue this.

Are you illiterate? Do you realize you have COUNTLESS sutras you can access from the Theravada, Mahayana, and Vajrayana traditions? Even those that went extinct like SARVASTIVIDA, which was big in Iran and Central Asia, have some scriptures and more for studying.

God, you are so fucking retarded. You are like Alan Watts brainrot. For example, Ch'an/Zen had a lineage of patriarchs with mind-to-mind transmission involving the bowl and robe, and this is how the tradition promulgated. And do you know what a fucking tradition has? Chants, scriptures, rituals, practices, and more.

You are a stupid fucking icchantika. I hope you are young and actually go research this stuff before running your filthy mouth, or you can just stick YA trash and Michael Bay films.
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>>214669233
I would they are equally as violent killing an infant who barely has any knowledge of the world just to get back at your enemies is not really justifiable while with killing someone because they don't believe in what you believe ust to spread your religion is not really justifiable either.
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>>214669295
What?
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>>214651864
>mena
>Infested with amerimutt flags
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>>214670631
Nikmokbzbi
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>>214670631
I blame Iraq.
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>>214670754
It's beyond hopeless, these motherfuckers don't want to leave /mena/ alone, and YOU don't have the common sense not to give them (you)s.
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>mena
>isntreal and american subhumans
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>>214670931
I have no idea how they always reply to the isntreal nigger
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>>214670937
Beyond hopeless, only way I see this being fixed is by a reset, all actual MENAs boycott /mena/ for a while and don't bake new threads, eventually the mutts will ducks off at which point we can start anew without the filth that is westerners.
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>>214670931
Me???
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>>214670996
No, not you in particular, that you is in general, a lot of mena flags happily give replies.
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>>214670978
Hopeful of you to think that it wouldn't end in a tranny western criclejerk under the /MENA/ name. Best thing we can do is just ignore them while talking among ourselves as normal, which is apparently too hard even when they are fishing for the (You)s calling them subhumans and work as saboteurs.
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Bump
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>>214670937
We are mena don't lump us in with the outlanders
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>>214672850
NTA but a simple look in the mirror or better yet a DNA test would prove to you that you're full of shit and delulu. Poland calls for you.
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>>214672908
Ged match models me as half Ukrainian half labanese christian and yesterday I was given a container of food from an old man who was born in Kurdistan
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>214672944
My apologies for getting your origins wrong dear slavix brozzer, Ruthenia and the pale of settlement calls for you. You NEED to go back or else it will not survive.
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>>214672977
You conveniently ignored the second part, slavs are barbaric savages I hate them and much prefer it here in sand land
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>>214671015
Stupid cocksucker. At least 3 USA flags are diaspora
I'll remember that when you make your shitty little thread tho
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>>214673498
Must suck to only be motivated by hatred in your entire existence
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>>214673750
This argument is painfully stupid because 1) it acknowledges that marrying kids is not okay thus giving up the "it's cultural" argument you can sway libshits with 2) It's retarded because it is literally impossible to fuck a 3 year old and if someone has ever read Genesis they know it's impossible for an actual toddler to be a shepherdess and roll stones off wells or carry the water jug to water the camels of Abraham's servant. Plus the source is much less authentic than Sahih al-bukhari. And 3) it invites further scrutiny into Islamic books and opens the door to using poorly sourced hadiths to slander Islam and 4) It shows just how much the "9 year old" thing pisses off Muslims which is sure to make them use it even more.

Stop it for fucks sake why are diasporats so retarded and obnoxious
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>214673820

Ah you're false-flagging then. The Tunisian was right we shouldn't respond to mutt flags
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>>214673849
Nice one. Did that come to you during your morning Sahaba cursing session?

Hey retard, just because le bible says she was sucking BBC and rubbing her clit on camels doesn't mean it really happened. Their rules clearly state that if a girls is 3 years old, sex with her is like poking a finger in the eye
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>>214673869
Isn't the age of consent 9 in Iraq currently?
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Life is funny but sometimes it keeps telling the same old joke
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>>214673849
Yeah and how Muslims get triggered when people say Islam is bad but prove their point by doing bad stuff and use their religion (Islam) to justify it.

I don't have a hate for any religion and I don't hate all Muslims but it pisses me of how Muslims always play victim all the time.
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>>214674272
Are you the wannabe Buddhist? That must be nice, since your Buddhism doesn't make you do anything differently
It just gives you an imaginary high ground to lob shit at people from
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>>214674311
You're confusing different people, retard.
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>>214674311
I'm Non-religious dumbass

I'm just saying a lot of you Muslims like to play victim.
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Quit samefagging you schizo mutt
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>>214674328
>>214674331
You're both the same person to me, who is also me
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>>214674350
No one is samefagging, retard.
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سؤال للاخوة المرراركة الحماركة هنا. (وحتى الجزائريين والتوانسة الا كانو هنا)

شمن حروف كتكتبو بيهم الدارجة نتوما وصحابكم فالانترنيت؟ الحروف العربية ولا اللاتينية؟
يعني مثلا الا فالمستقبل الدول العربية بدات كتمعير اللهجات ديالها والمغرب قرر يمشي على نفس الخطى. واش تفضل تكتب بالحروف العربية ولا اللاتينية؟

سؤال للناس لي كتكتب بالحروف اللاتينية.
شنو كتستعملو لحرف الشين؟
واش
ch
ولا
x
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>>214674493
>البلدان العربية
Your post reeks of facebook
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>>214674544
البلدان الشأشأية

is this better?
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>>214674544
>>214674561
Shut up and kiss already
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>>214674561
ps: if you are going to reply about it being شأشئية instead of شأشأية then stop and go jack off before you come back to the thread.
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>>214672908
Wait kek
Jews are polish?
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>>214674687
Also
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>>214674561
It's a nonsensical question imo.
Most of the supposed "dialects" were developed independently. I guess you may assume some kind of continuity, for example, in the Maghreb or in the Gulf, but overall, not really.
You can't really ask that kind of question while addressing a Moroccan and a Saudi simultaneously.
If you were to ask me personally, not all countries in the area suffer from issues similar to ours, except maybe Algeria. Some countries just have no need to reform their linguistic policies, such as the Gulf states, for example. We are different even from other countries in the Middle East who still have other languages besides their dialects circulating.
What I am trying to say is it doesn't make sense to be general with this kind of question.
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احنا ممكن نتكلم عربي بس و ده ممكن يمشي الامريكان واليهود
الموضوع هيبقى ممل ليهم
احنا اللي بنسهلهم الثريد
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>>214674733
I didn't engage with either of them desu.
Besides i can't really speak Egyptianbonics, i do understand, but it would be really cringey of me to imitate your speech.
Also they are just trolls nigga kek
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>>214653987
Tehran, Chalus, Ramsar, and Rasht. Basically the north. The weather was very nice eventhough it was mid summer.
>>214659418
I only been to the north but I heard Shiraz is nice too. There is also the island of Kish in the gulf, which should be a nice destination for a winter trip.
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Egyonics
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Newfag question but where does the شأشأ come from?
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>>214674723
i think you misunderstood the question.

1. an my question was precisely directed towards maghrebis in particular. and what they would choose for their own "dialects" if they are to be standardized into their own languages. the question wasn't general in the first place.

2. something similar to how each romance language got standardized eventually might happen to all arabic dialects.
this is not something out of the question. there were talks in Egypt in the late 19th and early 20th century about standardizing the egyptian dialect and adopting as the official state's language. although this wasn't taken very seriously.
the lebanese wanted to do the same too.

classical arabic is already a dead language by definition (one could argue it was never alive in the first place). it's just a matter of time before each arab country adopt their dialect as their official language. and that will come with standardization.
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>>214674926
الشرق الأوسط وشمال أفريقيا
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>>214651864
Made for Big Israeli Bombs (made in the USA)
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>>214674936

and btw. besides syria. all arab countries still teach higher education in English or French.

some countries still have minorities that speak other languages, like mahri, kurdish, aramaic, etc... similar to how we have berber speakers.

and most still have to learn fusha besides their dialect.

so the language issue is more general than you think. in most arab countries people still have to know at least 3 if not 4 languages to operate.
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I can't imagine actively advocating for monolingual beta retardation like how Americans do it. Arabic and Hebrew are the only languages still understood and spoken from ancient ages and thankfully we aren't Jews and yet you want to erase it? Why should everything be standardized globohomo?
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>>214674936
I don't believe in the concept of Arabness or Arab countries beyond the geopolitical definition (then I guess Morocco is an Arab state). I just pointed out that I see no continuity with, say, the Middle East linguistically for me to entertain these ideas in a general light, even remotely. I don't believe Morocco has the same linguistic landscape as anywhere in MENA, again, except maybe Algeria.
And I don't believe that the Maghrebi "dialects," especially ours, cluster closely with actual Arabic dialects that descend directly from Arabic, it's just... different. I think the fact that, whatever it is we speak, is mostly Arabic in terms of vocabulary doesn't negate the fact that it has most likely been synthesized through local and religious motives rather than direct contact with a third party. I understand that you may disagree, but besides what most linguists see as the mainstream opinion, I think many things should be reconsidered.
Also, language is identity, and as long as there's no sense of distinguishing it, besides tokenistic standardization, it really does no one good. I'd say you're better off even.

But I'll speak locally without entertaining issues elsewhere. For me, it's Darija plus standard Tamazight to be official. I'd like it to be in some form of modified Latin for accessibility, and of course, I'd encourage neologisms, especially if sourced from Berber, since it fits more phonetically. It's always awkward the way we say "المغريييب الموشكيييلة", The way Arabic doesn't morph as well as Latin and Berber with Darija is concerning to me because most people assume MSA terms to sound more correct, so no one tries to change them, and that further arabizes your speech weirdly.
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>>214675360
I don't know, it's a really difficult subject, i think language has more to it than just the functional aspect, and to make progress with these things you need actual grassroots movements, obviously neither the elevation of tamazight, or the fair treatment of darija, their external policy is for the moment: (we arab state number 101929), and internally, well, its tokenistic treatment.
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>>214675353
We still have our native languages that have been spoken continuously since ancient times, and not in small numbers, especially in morocco, we don't have the same issues as you do in egypt.
You as an Egyptian can easily larp as an arab, and at hard times larp as a kemet copt chad and no one would nag you, and you will not deal with any sort of crisis, because as i understand it's established locally that you are pretty much "arab"

We, are in the clear light of day, to anyone who knows two bits more, hardly arab, we are a multicultural society, for sure, but i wouldn't really like the mistake of reducing everything to "just another arab state" to happen here locally, instead of just externally as of now.

I'd like to see morocco for once in non larping state, but that's kind of impossible since the legitimacy of the rule here is through a larp to begin with.

Obviously some people with different convictions would disagree with me and cuss me out, and accuse me to be a hardcore pan berberist, but i am neither or a pan arab, i just would like a more nuanced approach.
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>>214668354
My based crusader ancestors feasted on paynim flesh during the Crusades, and inchallah we will do it again if you don't stop acting so uppity.
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>>214659418
Go to shiraz, Isfahan, and northern part of Iran like Mazandaran or Gilan its very green over there.
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خرسان
عميان
صمان
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>>214675565
Your based ancestors were servants for the crusaders after they massacred everybody else
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>فَلَا تَهِنُوا۟ وَتَدْعُوٓا۟ إِلَى ٱلسَّلْمِ وَأَنتُمُ ٱلْأَعْلَوْنَ وَٱللَّهُ مَعَكُمْ وَلَن يَتِرَكُمْ أَعْمَـٰلَكُمْ

Muslims are opportunistic jews that smile to your face then hide in the shadows like rats to plot and contrive.
My Crusader ancestors had the right idea when they feasted on their pasty flesh and weak bones.
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>>214675360

i am asking this question because i was working on wikipedia darija. there is a lot of talk about the orthography and which script to used. the original wikipedia darija was written in the latin alphabet. but they switched to the arabic alphabet. which creates some issues. since darija lost distinction between long and short vowels. some people believed we should write all the short vowels that are preserved as و ي ا so they started writing ولكن as والاكين. and مدرسة as مدراسا or مدراسة.

tah marbuta is another issue, because although it's not pronounced it's still pronounced when we use inflection or add a pronoun or in idafa. eg "mdina" becomes "mdintu" or "mdint hasan" etc..

as you said. there is the issue of words that entered the moroccan vocab recently and haven't yet morphed to match darija morphology. for example we still say المغريب although we call the time of the day or the prayer لمْغْرْبْ which is the correct form.
since the pattern "maf3al" in fusha morphed to "mef3el".

another word is the agent noun اسم الفاعل for a 4 consonant verb eg علّم خربق سمّع .
if it's in a sentence it becomes مْعْلّم مْخْرْبْقْ مْسْمّعْ like حميد معلّم ولادو or حميد مخربق داكشي
but on its own (which moroccans didn't use as often in the past) preserves it's classical arabic form eg
موعليم (مُعَلِّم)، مُِخَربِق موخربيق

they do this because the vowels reduction causes some fusha patterns to collapse into one. for example اسم الفاعل and اسم المفعول for 4 consonant verbs both become مْفْعْلْل/مْفْعّلْ . so a word like مبهدل can mean both someone who كيبهدل or someone who كيتبهدل
eg
حميد مبهدل means he himself is
حميد مبهدل مرتو means his wife is and he is causing that.
in fusha there is مُفَعْلِل and مُفَعْلَل so it's less ambiguous

so although moroccans drop a lot of vowels from classical arabic. when they want to clarify what they mean they always drop back to the classical pronunciation. sometimes over-emphasizing the short vowels making them longer.
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>>214676272

also another note

>And I don't believe that the Maghrebi "dialects," especially ours, cluster closely with actual Arabic dialects that descend directly from Arabic, it's just... different.

this is false. maghrebi dialects are as divergent from classical arabic as any other dialect. the phonological changes that happened in it happened in many other dialects. the morphology of darija is virtually the same as arabic. most if not all the syntax changes that happened in maghrebi dialects appear in all other dialects.

i agree that, yes, maghrebi dialects are very divergent from classical arabic. but i extremely disagree with the idea that they are any more divergent from classical arabic than any other arabic dialect. or that other dialects are somehow closer to classical arabic than maghrebi ones. this is mostly a myth that was enforced by pop-media and doens't have any weight from a linguistic pov.
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>>214676287
No, that's not what I meant. I was just referring to the fact that they are their own thing, and that the grammatical logic strongly takes root in native tongues continuously as you go west. What Darija seems to be, to me at least, and I may be wrong, is initially the local population's attempt at properly speaking Classical Arabic. Then, obviously, the various geographically close, relevant influences and migrations are contributors.

Make no mistake, though, I am not denying the strong Semitic presence in terms of vocabulary, and it would be detrimental to Tamazight to associate Darija strongly with it (some people with certain leanings do that) beyond the undeniable substrate. I just would like to think of it as its own proper case.

I do hope Morocco strongly reconsiders its linguistic policy, though, as much as anyone interested. It's just a difficult subject since, no matter how objective you try to be, a pan-Arabist leaning person would call you a guerbouz, and a pan-Berberist would call you an Arabized self-hater. It's kinda hard not to meddle with these ideological frameworks when actual objectivity is in order.
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>>214676816
I have to add thats it's actually pleasant for once to not be exploded at with insults while discussing this, i appreciate that i guess, some individuals find it hard to agree to disagree.
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>>214676950
>>214676816
>>214676287
>>214676272
>Zlayjia grabez
>Wikipedia darija
Kek
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I guess morrocants just have a princess complex at the end of the day. Why are we so aversed on focusing on shit that no one gives a fuck about
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>>214677118
>>214677017
It's just a hypothetical discussion.
none of this, even remotely has a chance of happening realistically, nothing serious, and no ambitions on my part at least, and I don't think i expressed any tazlayjit leanings, nor did i disclose my ethnic background, it's all you.
Just, do relax, have a good day.
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>>214677273
You dont have to explicitly state things for people to pick up on them. Grbouzia is a dying language and you lots are trying to grbouzify dareeja to find a last bastion. Too bad that's virtually impossible to happen, you'll never make a lingua franca or national language out of an endangered vernacular most moroccans feel visceral disgust when hearing it. You can only dream i guess while doing your keyboard crusades.
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>>214677416
You are fighting an imaginary opposition, i am neither of the things you describe me to be, i am as 3robi as they get (ghrb), supposedly.
And i don't have any of the ambitions you point either.
Simply, an anon posted something, we discussed it, and went back to our lives, zero convictions or ulterior motives on my end at least, friend.
I don't care about these things that deeply, just another boring morning, and i am a fan of hypothetical discussion, and alternative history, that's about all.
Have a good day.
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>>214677566
You're fooling no one chlee7a why do you lots love sounding like such victims when cornered
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>>214677416
not that anon.
>Grbouzia is a dying language and you lots are trying to grbouzify dareeja to find a last bastion

i agree, maybe not that anon. but there are a lot of berberists who try desperately to berberfy darija. sometimes by making laughable claims, like claiming that some grammatical or morphological differences that differentiate darija from fusha are a product of berber influence despite those same differences appearing in majority of other dialects. and sometimes claiming a berber origin for some archaic classical arabic words that were preserved in darija but not other dialects.

but i still believe there is a linguistic problem in morocco (and most arab countries) of having a very extreme case of diglossia.

there were proposals in egypt in the late 19th and early 20th century for merging the egyptian dialect with fusha into one language and using it as an official language. but that didn't see the light of the day. that would have required standardizing and reforming some aspects of the dialect and the fusha.

i think something like this should be done here. well educated people already speak in this style of arabic. especially when discussing an academic topic. they talk with a hybdrid between fusha and darija. i believe this should be standardized.

as for berber. i don't see any future for it whatsoever. as the few remaining speakers move to the big cities. it will die out. as unfortunate as that is for them. i would like to see that happen.

t. 3robi (or maybe an arabized berber whose ancestors didn't speak berber in centuries)
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>>214676101
>pasty
If anything most Muslims were probably pretty swarthy compares to the Frankish crusaders who were the pasty crakkka ass whiteboi niggas. You should look up the words you're using bro also YWNBRHG you're only a J2 beta cuck whose ancestors were topped by E and J1 haplogroup BVLLS.
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>>214677664
Literally a ghrbawi from just about the north of kenitra...
Nigga u got the wrong guy, breathe out.
Why the 3robi on 3robi violence, or are just a mystery meat wld lmdina who jumps out on everyone equally?
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>>214677794
he is just trolling. chill.
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>>214677779
Compared to*
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>>214677733
Short-answer but i promise i've read your entire post.
I just dont see a point in any of this at all, it's not addressing any major identity issue and might even magnify them when in 5 years every small berber community and 3robi ones starts wanting to have it's standarized version, remember dareeja is not only 3robia rural/urban dialects. It's not addressing any problem with education or sociological issues, this is a bottomless pit of a discussion, it's no different than board games LARP.
There's chances it's some weird nich government program to make people stray away from discussing matters that actually impact their lives instead of blindly replicating the european standarization model.
Even if it's hypothetical it deservingly should to be laughed at and ridiculized
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>>214677794
>Literally a ghrbawi from just about the north of kenitra...
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>>214677851
it does address a real problem. even the purest 3robi kid in the 4th level can barely read their textbook properly.
it creates a lot of friction when you have to learn a difficult subject in a language you are not used to.

as for "blindly replicating the european standarization model."
i have always been a strong opponent of blindly copying the europeans in everything, the good and the bad, and only reflecting later on once we reach the same level of development. there is just no time to thinker and decide and filter what is good and what is bad.

to quote taha hussein:

الطريق إلى الرقي واضحة بينة ومستقيمة ليس فيها عوج ولا التواء، وهي واحدة فذة ليس لها تعدد، وهي: أن نسير سيرة الأوروبيين ونسلك طريقهم لنكون لهم أنداداً، ولنكون لهم شركاء في الحضارة خيرها وشرها، حلوها ومرها، وما يحب منها وما يكره وما يحمد منها وما يعاب
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>>214677999
and i know yeah, he was opposed to standardizing dialects.
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>>214677779
Nice schizopost but I'm not reading it
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>>214677999
That doesn't fix anything that just means our education is the scrapping bottom of the gutter level of garbage, adding dareeja to textbooks just means kids have yet another useless subject or language they dont master but still have to worry about alongside 3 other meme languages and 10 meme subjects everyone forgets about past highschool
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>>214677999
Also taha hussein isnt an authority on this matter, a lot of arab authors like يحيى حقي and توفيق الحكيم were euroboos. Doesn't mean the european model applies 1:1 to anywhere else that's not europe e.g east asians
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>>214678054
It's time to discard MSA/QA and invest ourselves fully into Latin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbEKIW3pUUk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx3c4AjAO58
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_JY76xXrVM
https://lukesmith.xyz/articles/learn-latin/
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>>214678054
if the standardization is done properly they wouldn't need to study classical arabic. at least in primary school maybe not even middle school.

as for for foreign languages. i see no reason to include them in the school's curriculum. people can enroll their kids in language schools or teach them on their own if they want.
a nation state doesn't need more than one language. the language that majority of their people speak. in our case it's moroccan arabic.
as for regional variations. every country that standardized its language had to deal with this.
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>>214678146
every country that successfully industrialized and caught up to the west did so by copying the european model.

as for east asia.
the only country that fully avoided colonialism and rapidly industrialized to becoming a colonial power itself that rivaled the west was japan. which did so by copying the european model during the meiji restoration.

every other ideology failed.
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>>214678167
Nta, but good luck figuring out a good STEM education in any language other than english (not of out of preference, but because of abundance of material)
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>>214665022
t.
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>>214678167
Why would they need to "study" a colloquial language with barely any written tradition and mostly oral one beyond history and theatre ???? lmao
Kids need a liturgical language + a lingua franca + a choice language, if you're so hellbent on following the european model then that's what we already have
Our education is just trash. And no parents unironically shouldnt have that much freedom on kids education, everyone should start on equal grounds and past highschool you can then have more lenient choices.
Those are extremely retarded points with no basis or foresight, just chauvinism diluted in an inferiority complex, you're probably way too young to be dwelling here
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>>214678208
All SEA and east asian countries mog us to death and barely any of them have had models comparable to the european-american ones for at least 50 years now
Good luck applying german urban planning or socialism in this shithole
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>>214678344
>Why would they need to "study" a colloquial language with barely any written tradition and mostly oral one beyond history and theatre

every european language was like this at some point. so this point is irrelevant.

>Kids need a liturgical language + a lingua franca + a choice language, if you're so hellbent on following the european model then that's what we already have

the europeans had latin during the middle ages and they didn't do shit with it. the rise of european powers correlates with the invention of the printing press and people starting to write in their own local languages. which before that, had very little written history.

>Our education is just trash.
yes, and the digolssia problem is a big part of why it's trash. a kid needs to learn at least 2 languages on top of his own to be able to study scientific and literary subjects.

>you're probably way too young to be dwelling here
i am 30 yo with a degree in linguistics

>>214678385
yet almost every single one of them standardized their language and wrote it and use it as their primary language of instructions in school.
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>>214678490
>If we standarize the vulgar colloquial language to spite a certain kind of populists that means we'll become a superpooper
أدبي مكلخ
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>>214678557
never said that.
it's a part of a larger process of copying the western nation state model. just by itself it wouldn't do much.
but nothing on its own would make a difference.
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>>214678605
also
>ادبي
lol, I am 3ilmi. just did a linguistic degree after my license. mainly because I was interested in this subject of standardizing languages
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>>214678605
>the rise of european powers correlates with the invention of the printing press and people starting to write in their own local languages.
You're backpedalling because you realize how dumb it sounds to include vulgar languages alongside standarization of the written form, and alongside the invention of printing. European countries didn't all standarize at the same rate or at the same time, countries like Finland standarized their language 100 years ago and some change, Italian was standarized a few decades before that and was based on the closest dialect to vulgar latin, today italians still speak their local dialects. Printing predates these by 4 centuries.
Also """"standarized moroccan arabic""" is literally just MSA/fussha lol
أدبي مكلخ و غاتعاديني بكلاخك، نجيك نيشان اخويا غا كتخور و كتشير بهضرة نتا براسك مافهمهاش باش تحس براسك عندك راي. غا ضيعتي وقتك فديك لافاك لكن ماغتكونش اول واحد
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>>214678768
Also germany for example doesnt really have a "standardized universal german" the same way msa is to arabic dialects or parisian french to french dialects, even so, it goes back to the 16th century
You're not making any sensr
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>>214678768
> Also """"standarized moroccan arabic""" is literally just MSA/fussha lol
no, it would most likely based on the casa, rabat, fes, region arabic as that is already what is used on television and most moroccans are used to hearing.

as for the rant about european standardization.
>countries like Finland standarized their language 100 years ago
because they got their independence around 100 years ago? standardizing the language was a part of the process of forming a unique identity and modern nation state.
>Italian was standarized a few decades before
because italy only unified a few decades before? they standardized their languages 10 years after the nation of italy was born.

standardization was a direct consequence of people starting to write in their local dialects a lot. the scientific advancements of the west wouldn't have been possible without people producing and consuming literature and science in their own spoken languages.

we need a modern nation state. and that requires standardizing our language. simple as. morocco got independence almost 70 years ago. and we still have no national language.
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>>214679073
>and we still have no national language.
We do
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_Morocco
>The official languages of Morocco are Modern Standard Arabic and Standard Moroccan Berber.[6]
We already have a standarized language, and below it vulgar colloquial dialects stemming directly from that language
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>>214679109
>Modern Standard Arabic and Standard Moroccan Berber
Modern standard arabic is not moroccan standard arabic. modern standard arabic is only good if believe in pan-arabism and forming a united arab nation state. which was a promising dream for some (including me at some point) and probably the reason standardizing dialects was delayed. but right now I don't see that dream coming true.
>gerbouziya
lol, lmao even
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>>214679200
The distinction between fussha and MSA is a semantics one and conveniency, moroccan dareeja is +90% fussha/msa vocabulary. Fussha and msa and dareeja arent the same thing but that's why they're a trinity, they're at the core the same language.
Moroccans already have a national language
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>>214679287
Which proves the point that we're just subhumans it's not a matter of language*
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>>214679200
>>214679287

>Modern standard arabic is not moroccan standard arabic.

what i mean is that when two italians from different regions meet. they speak italian.
when a shamali and casawi meet, they don't speak MSA. because they are still closer to each other than they are to classical arabic. a true standard moroccan arabic would be based on the local dialects. or one of them. not on classical. MSA was just a modernization of classical arabic meant to unify all arabs. but not even two arabs from different countries speak MSA when they meet.
arabic dialects have diverged too much from classical arabic for classical arabic to act as a unifying standard.

>The distinction between fussha and MSA is a semantics one and conveniency, moroccan dareeja is +90% fussha/msa vocabulary. Fussha and msa and dareeja arent the same thing but that's why they're a trinity, they're at the core the same language.

as i have said. there was already a proposal in egypt to merge fusha with the dialects. so that dialect features of arabic like double negations with ما and شي or ش could be considered grammatically correct and sound alongside لم and ما for example. but this didn't work. i would have had no problem with that.


>>214679307
you reek of inferiority complex
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You guys still at it
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Mea libido! Mea libido!
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i am done. he is just too insecure to have a discussion with.

see you later.
the faranjiya wants to eat my butt cheeks.
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>>214679370
When a casawi and shamali meet they speak arabic, the same way those two italians speak italian lmao. No shit sherlock
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>>214679681
they don't speak MSA. the point of standardization if making a standard which people within a country can communicate with. MSA fails to deliver that.
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>>214679680
You're finally realizing how stupidly wrong you are and will be pondering on it, that's a win.
>insecure
Projection, this is exactly how insecure people react when they get any pushback, you're too used to your facebook 2k members group circlejerk.
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>>214679723
It doesn't fail to deliver that, matter of fact it does it's job just fine, it's just that they're both illiterate in typical moroccan fashion and dont really need it because the distance as you said is negligible
Someone from guelmim might need to be talked to in MSA for example since it's extremely close to saharwi dialect, it does it's job just fine in this case. Same for an algerian and moroccan and tunisian talking
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>>214679744
it wasn't me who called himself a subhuman lol >>214679307

i have respect for my culture and language and genuinely want to make education easier and better for kids. and i am a strong believer that standardizing our language is a prerequisite for that.
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>>214679800
if a shamali spoke MSA to an illiterate casawi. it's most likely that they would understand less than what they would have understood if the shamali just spoke their shamali dialect.

>dont really need it because the distance as you said is negligible
yeah, no shock. when two people can still understand each other fine. without changing their speech much. we say they speak the same language. when they don't, the dialects have diverged enough to be considered their own languages.

>saharwis
saharawis and hessani speakers aren't moroccan. and will never be. they should have their own nation state.
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>>214679814
Moroccans are subhumans who cant read, this is a fact and no, the language isnt the issue here. Languages are tangible variables and can be changed at any given time, imposed, skewed, standarized... Yes the problem is that we have one of the worst educations on earth on par with literal warzones but you're not ready to discuss that because you're a zlayji in denial
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>>214679935
>zlayji
i am not, and i hate zlayjiya

the rant you have written adds nothing of any substance to the discussion. i have already answered your question. the education system being bad is an indisputable fact. never did I at any point in this discussion disagree with it. it's just that I believe that the language issue is a big part of the reason. and should be tackled alongside other things.
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>>214679994
There is no language issue, this is just your ego trying to argue. Vulgar colloquial languages should stay as such, we already have a standarized arabic language a chli7a
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It's also funny because the moroccan gov did try such a jest and it backfired miserably and caused massive seethe in borbors because turns out dareeja is just a morphologically different variant of fussha LOL
Imagine a class in france where kids learn street talk or marseille wogspeak, in addition to the other clusterfuck of matters kids already struggle to grasp. I'm not surprised a moroccan would be so shortsighted
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>>214680042

there is a language issue. as attested by officials and people who studied this subject. they flipflop between teaching subjects in arabic and french every couple of years.

modern standard arabic is not a local standard for moroccan arabic. it's a standard for all arab speakers.
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Jfc, just stop it all at once, both of you. This isn't a productive exchange. It's clear that no agreement or alteration of beliefs will occur here.
Just do yourselves both a favor and close this thread all at once, seriously.
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>>214680153
>there is a language issue. as attested by officials and people who studied this subject.
As in no one besides berberists lmao.
>they flipflop between teaching subjects in arabic and french every couple of years.
Completely different issue.
Yeah let's teach geography in dareeja, surely that wont backfire as well especially since arabic is an already scientifically poor language let alone a dialect of arabic.
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>>214680123
i don't care what grabez say. their language is dead. and everyone who speaks it already knows how to speak darija anyway. so it's a compete waste of time to add yet another language for kids to learn.

>Imagine a class in france where kids learn street talk or marseille wogspeak
you are an illiterate. at best. if you genuinely believe informal french vs formal french is a good analogy for MSA and any arabic dialect then you should open a linguistics book and read a little.
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>>214680219
Why do exchanges always have to be agreements ? This is such a hivemind bug mindset
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>>214680298
Agreement over disagreement is a thing you know, why are you so agressive?
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>>214680265
>berberists
berberists don't care about darija. they want to revive their dead language which 80% of moroccans don't speak. i take their nonsense seriously.

>Completely different issue.
absolutely the same issue.

>since arabic is an already scientifically poor language let alone a dialect of arabic.
see. it's just a problem of laziness from your parts. no one wants to do some work translating scientific resources.
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>>214680287
It is, slums casa gherbawa rbat 3robya etc dareeja is a very poor and mediocre language and holds no value despite being the most common dialect in morocco, jbala and andalusian fes dareeja is already basically just slightly skewed fusha, same for shrawi arabic
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>>214680322
I'm not aggressive though, you're just fragile and too used to circlejerking.
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>>214680351
you don't have a background in linguistics. so i don't think you know what you are talking about.

i am shamali btw. and what you said is complete nonsense.

i agree with you that sahrawi dialects don't cluster properly with moroccan dialects. and that's why I said they are not moroccans. as a nation state requires people to speak the same language. (just so that you don't accuse me of being some zlayji. i don't think any zlayji would say that).
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>>214680371
You are clearly agressive and very much into baseless accusations.
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>>214680514
he has a habit of just accusing everyone zlayji or gerboz.

but when the person they are talking to is neither. he just has nothing left to say.
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>>214680576
When we had our conversation earlier, even after disagreeing with you, i didn't really get an aneurysm because of it, kek.

If anything the fact that he went for us both while we clearly disagree on some points, is proof he's either that genuinely agressive, or trolling.

The irony is he calls other moroccans subhumans, well...
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>>214680437
>If i keep repeating that you're wrong and saying "nein nein nein" like an entitled kid eventually it will make sense
Lol
>>214680514
Nice samefagging
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>>214680576
>he has a habit
Take. your. meds.
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>>214680663
Buddy, you are genuinely deranged, if you think i have enough steam in me to be a schizo about everything like you. unfortunately, you are are talking to two different anons, shocker.
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>>214679602
I honestly don't get what this is about. If we really want to improve education we shouldn't give a single flying fuck about Araplari which has 0 important content or worthwhile works either cultural or scientific, and should just dump all points into foreign languages like English, and Fr*nch for the maghrebis i guess. Anything else is honestly a waste of time because who in their right mind gives a shit about MSA when no one actually speaks it? If you start speaking MSA to a Saudi he'll probably start laughing his ass off at you and think you're retarded because you couldn't learn his dialect.

Minmax into English or French or both, fuck Arabic.

>Inb4 muh Quran!!1!1!1!1!!1
You can teach kids enough Arabic to be able to read the thing without needing an 800 fucking hundred page textbook like what i had to suffer through in HS. Also Quranic schools and Kuttab exist, no need for Arabic to have such a stranglehold on our education system.
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>>214680663

except that's not what I said. as I said here >>214680576

you are just circling in your place. you are clearly not qualified to talk about this linguistic subject.
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>>214680719
Egypt bro, there's no "we" here, as you can see, this is a moroccan thing, it's only natural you don't get it, just enjoy the meltdown
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>>214680719
No you dont get it we have to standarize (meaningless buzzword that my countrymen have repeated at least 50 times itt but probably cant define) the rural monkeys dialects this is how we'll become a superpooper and surpass europe and if you disagree you're just a troll, schizo, aggressive etc kek
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>>214680719
>If you start speaking MSA to a Saudi he'll probably start laughing his ass off

that's my point. MSA is a laughable standard for arabic. I just want a new modern standard for arabic. that's all I am asking for. a standard that doesn't make you sound like a clown when you speak it to people.
but I believe each country should develop its own standard. and make it its own official language.

it's simple. but he insists that MSA is a fine standard for moroccan arabic (or any dialect for that matter).

as for foreign languages. they are harder for learners than MSA.
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>>214680738
You're literally switching from being a gherbawi to a chamali in the span of a few posts. You're the deranged habitual liar here.
And yes im correct, you just denied my points without bringing up any of your own.
It's not like you were about to bring up some brain scrambling revelation anyways to be fair.
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>>214680856
>You're literally switching from being a gherbawi to a chamali in the span of a few posts.

lol. take your meds. I was arguing with the gherbaoui guy.

>you just denied my points
what are you points? they are all baseless. like comparing formal french vs informal french to darija and MSA. which is laughable. and shows nothing more than your lack of qualification to talk about this subject.
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>>214680938
Standard language/liturgical language/state language vs street speak, yes dareeja is nothing more than street speak. Your king doesn't speak to you in dareeja, well hassan 2 tried and not only did he have a lisp it was mostly done to insult the common rural moroccan and threaten them kek.
I'm not expecting you to be extremely bright considering the average national iq but come on.
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>>214680856
grab two matchlock pistols and settle this with a duel
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>>214681048
Its too much i am just here looking at it unfold
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>>214681077
It mean Aryan
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>>214681112
Youre lyin
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>>214681154
No iran literally means land of the aryans
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>>214681048
If she's the referee then I'm joining just to be able to stare at those gigantic bazoinkers. Y'all can feel free to shoot me if i die staring at massive tiddies then I'll have died with no regrets.
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>>214681180
Ok i believe you
(Situation diffused looks like dzbro, both went to sleep i think, thank u for your service)
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>ITT : unemployed activities
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>>214681255
Troon out and you may just have a shot at that actually, actually that makes you very likely to doe while staring at tits, maybe not large ones, but yours nonetheless
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>>214681255
thats barbari pirate queen. She will sell you to slavery for the ottomans if you stare too long im afraid
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>>214681319
Well he said he was in la fac, of course he's an unemployed facebook dwelling zlayji kek
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Anyone wants to post a /nafri/?
Can since I maxed out number of threads already.
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>>214681489
bake it.
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>>214681489
>Can since I maxed out number of threads
Wtf since when is this a thing
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>>214681562
did he mean cant* ? why is there a thread limit
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>>214681037
>Standard language/liturgical language/state language vs street speak, yes dareeja is nothing more than street speak.

that's not our discussion our discussion is about how close those languages are to each other. the formal french is still the same language as street french. and someone who speaks one can understand the other. we can have a formal darija and street darija too. this is already the case. there are certain things that are not acceptable to say on tv for example. not even slurs.

if you study the the linguistic distance of arabic dialects and how they cluster. you would know MSA and darija aren't the same language, and arabic is according to the international standard ISO 639 divides arabic to 28 independent languages.
and it doesn't even consider canadian french a different language.

these standards are standardized by linguists who have studied the field. not randoms on 4chan.
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>>214681489
>>214681516
Can't*
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>>214681489
Please don't
Too many schizos, /mena/ can contain this
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>>214681590
Specifically to discourage ME from spam, the max is 5 active threads.>>21468
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>>214681722
What message does it give you
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>nafri bread baked
nafri bread baked
>nafri bread baked
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>>214681765
"[ You can't post more than 5 active threads]"
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>>214681820
you have 5 active threads? you've been busy boy
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>>214681856
Daily occurence for me.
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>want to install solar panels on my home
>big upfront cost, but no biggie if it saves money in the long run
>turns out I will be paying MORE on my electric bill despite using LESS electricity
can someone explain why is this happening? is it the electric company being a fucking mafia outfit and I’ll be losing some subsidy I wasn’t aware of?
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>>214683862
nigga you got bigger things to worry about
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>>214684421
true, like you shitstains still living on stolen land, but one day justice will prevail with you wiped out and kicked back to Eastern Europe.
for now, I’m entitled to be worrying about myself, thank you very much.
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Israel attacked Qatar
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>من النهر إلى-ACK
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>>214683862
you live in qatar, with extremely abundant natural gas
I'd be surprised if any source of power is cheaper, hell I'm surprised you don't get electricity literally for free (I bet citizens do)
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>>214685063
just tell the arab/nafri jews to return to their respective countries and let the shittle east deal with the remaining ashkenazi demons
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>>214684968
there's a reason why many states have gotten rid of gas subsidies
people abuse the fuck out of it
>>214685063
im conflicted
on the one hand i want them dead especially after this celebration of the jerusalem shooter
on the other hand this is gonna seriously piss off qatar
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>>214685157
>on the other hand this is gonna seriously piss off qatar
oh no my poor terrorist hosting slave owning corrupt oil monarchy what will we do :c
shouldn't have hosted terrorists who kidnapped and murdered citizens of Israel and the US
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>>214685200
i mean it's not like i disagree but you got to deal with em arabs as how they are instead of how you want em to be
i dont know
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>>214685263
Everyone dislikes Qatar, they tried to play a neutral hand and pissed off everyone
how you get attacked by both Israel and Iran and get a greenlight from the US for both in the span of 3 months is beyond me, not to mention saudis and emiratis despise them too
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>>214685157
you couldn't abuse qatar gas if you tried
shit's infinite and the population is tiny
but I understand not granting that right to non-citizens
citizens do get it for free though
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>>214683862
its a jewish scam
best way to live is to never buy anything just keep using old stuff
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>214685200

Did you come to the thread to yap about how cool Israel is and how all sandnigger nations are trash? Why not go to >>>/pol/ instead??
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>>214685724
anon-kun youre confused
you simultaneously take off the you while posing a question
which is it youre being very indecisive
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Qatar got airstriked by both Iran and Israel geeeeeeggggggggggggg
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>>214686364
Kek gold this is karma for all the Sunni militias they funded to destabilize every ME nation. The terrorist kennelmaster gets bodied by the terrorist nation and the Rawafid.
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>>214686462
Deserved for doing this "little sparta of geopolitics" larp, only the UAE can get away with that.
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I just came back from my studies and saw the news... why is the war back? ,_, why are they fighting each other again? ,_, didn't it stop? ,_, why are they just killing each other again as if human life is cheap? ,_, why can't this stop? ,_, why am i this sure, we will somehow be pulled to this war also ,_, why do i feel that nukes will be used ,_, i hate nukes >_< this is the worst timeline am living in ,_, it was fine when it was summer... but now when am studying? how can i focus on it while a war is this close @_@ i can't ,_, i hate wars and war lovers and supporters :'(
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>>214686607
invest in elbit and lockheed
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>>214686607
We should execute you zarqawi style
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You know what is the best defense against Nietzschean Anglo-Ashkenazi rockets? going ass up face down 5 times a day
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>>214686607
if you dont want a war then you need a serious answer of who should rule in iraq cause right now the country is a powder keg
the only good news is that the iranian militias are getting fat and are more interested in collecting the good boy shiite checks than actually doing any fighting
a serious war in iraq probably isnt gonna have to do with israel
if you want to keep the constitution then a dismantling of independent militias is what prevents war
if you want a sunni state that'd probably bring more decent long term stability than a republic but it'll require going through a civil war
if you want to be part of the iran orbit then those militias currently existing would have to go to war and i cant imagine this would have a happy ending
this is how the world works
reality is everybody wants peace on their own terms
>>214686878
nah it's the chinese space laser
if qatar had a couple of these babies the drones and missiles wouldnt touch em
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNrtjDWzXPY&t=953s
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a barbershop haircut that cost a quarter
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>>214687871
this would exist if 15000 barbershops existed in one neighborhood
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>>214686364
>saudijeets mad at qatar because they had an iran phase
>suck up to uae because they don't

The amount of indoctrination the average saudi goes through is insane. 30 million NPCs
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>>214688229
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>>214688229
No one's sucking up to the UAE you xitter addict I just find the fact they got bombed by these two countries funny
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>>214687165
So what am i supposed to do as a single 71 years old 6'8 black Iraqi muscular manly man to stop the war? @_@
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An Egypsie calling other people npcs when 116 million of them live like insects here and have salad water and a 6a3miya sandwich for breakfast lawwdd have mercy
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>>214688416
>I just find the fact they got bombed by these two countries funny
It is.
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@ربعي السعوديين
أشوفكم بالخطوط الأمامية بالقريات وتبوك نصد الزحف اليهودي الغاشم, إلى اللقاء
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>>214689011
is there a single country in mena we haven't bombed yet
come on I need the royal flush
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>>214689047
Don't bomb Sudan... don't hurt the BBCs
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>>214689029
>نصد
تكلم عن نفسك
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>>214689220
they're hurting each other as is nigga
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>>214689341
انت خلك مع النسوان وانا وباقي الفحول بنحامي على جزيرة العرب
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Imma go jerk off
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speaking of…
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>>214689383
It's ok it's natural selection process that will generate the most fit BBCs
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZpbowsRAf8
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>>214689518
this guy dates the most ogre chopped hoes
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>>214689455
طب تخيل ينيك محارمك وانت قاعد تجاهد لسبيل الصلب الي بالشمال
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I am visiting Baghdad sometime soon, and i want to make a plan to the places i will visit. where can i find good anime and Japanese stuff there? >_<
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Looked up Israel on Reddit to see what's going on.
Apparently there was a game yesterday against Italy, and Italy scored 7 goals (2 of them own goals).
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>>214689455
i remember when his jordanian BBC loving ex was always just there on bed showing no reaction almost every stream
https://youtu.be/wsnyBbhjKqE?si=_IE2-3usfTQOiUvD
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>>214689980
>>214689669
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>>214689882
netanyahu is also currently delivering remarks about us independence day at the american embassy
i wouldnt be entirely shocked if he timed this just to do some high level trolling
https://x.com/IsraeliPM/status/1965453100912705866
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>>214689455
مش اعداء عشان نصد يا اهبل
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>>214690149
روح انتحر يا خنيث
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>>214690213
روح اذبح نفسك عشان فلسطيز
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>>214688751
Bodied that Egypsie FREAK. Bodied me as well but I'm saving this image to roast my countrymen in the future
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>>214690760
How do you cope with being such a sub human mentally ill tranny
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>>214690822
Oh my fucking God how long are you going to hold this image over me you obsessed schizo freak? Fuck off for the love of HaShem you can't even speak Arabic
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>>214690822
Leave him alone he's just expressing himself
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>>214690822
>my countrymen
>>214690864
>HaShem
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What does Qatar means in Arabic? in Hebrew Katar/Qatar means locomotive (trains)

Has to be similar in semitic languages
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>>214691245
>in Hebrew Katar/Qatar means locomotive (trains)
Stolen from Arabic, where it's "Qitar".
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>>214690822
Imagine caring this much about your cunt's reputation on this site lol
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>>214691331
>Stolen from Arabic, where it's "Qitar".
Ah, interesting
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>>214691461
Do you want to have cousincest
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>>214691627
>pic
>>214690307
>اذبح نفسك
Why are you pretending to be Arab, Moshe?
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Thoughts?
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>>214691627
Wait wtf is that Zelensky with proper ramus projection on the left? Wtf is that nigga doing making out with a dude he should be defending Ukraine not tryna get laid
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>>214691627
If Hebrew was written in Arabic script, I think we'd be able to understand each other
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>>214691843
I wish we retained our square script(s)
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Why are saudijeets such ass kissers to uae and israel in particular?
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تعبت من أحفاد القردة والخنازير
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@grok name the country that gave 35 billion dollars to Israel for gas and was the first Arab country to recognize Israel
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>>214685063
are they tired of fighting yet?
what's their gameplan? Will they just die to the last man heroically like some foreign legion unit?
i suppose israel is getting increasingly better at hunting them town, after the slight scharmützel with iran
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>>214691924
>square script(s)
We stole it from Imperial Aramaic
I prefer the Paleo-Alphabet because it was closer to Phoenician and looked cooler.
Square is better for printing but squiggly is more aesthetic imo.
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>>214691924
Look at the "t" letter. Arabs are lost Aryan stock???!?!?!?!?

>Inb4 that's the big dipper's movement pattern!
No it's ARYAN.
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>>214692074
American economic reports are coming out shittier than expected
Drumpfs needs to distract the public

Apparently he sucks dick at economics unlike his predecessor who added 7 trillions to the gdp
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thank you bibi I have 10k dollars (35k nis) in our etf, just made 6700 within a few hours
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>>214692120
We can't let Robert Sepehr know about this
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>>214692145
could always invade another country and leech off it's natural resources irl command & conquer
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>>214692104
Phoenician and Ancient South Arabian scripts are really solid
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Do you read all this Tsar?
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>>214692074
actually id say getting israel to torpedo qatar is a pretty big diplomatic win for them
it undermines qatar as a neutral deal broker that can guarantee safety
which means qatar is probably gonna adapt a harsher attitude and the gulf states will watch in turn
course israel and bibi knew this and that's why they havent done it up to this point
>>214692145
hey genius ai isnt just gonna hit america
the economy and companies are doing fine
the stock market is at an all time high
it's that companies arent hiring and are getting leaner cause they just need less people
it's actually a sign of adaptation
but it is gonna have a short term negative affect on the middle class
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>>214692318
Qatar got a globohomo vaccine with the soccer games, now they will be heccin valid because foreigners are nice and also like kicking ball on savannah hunting simulator
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>>214692279
Aye, og goat
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>>214692318
>Companies are getting leaner
When are they gonna be stage ready? Gotta hit that pre-comp DBOL & Anavar if you wanna get to 7%BF bro
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النيبال حظروا السوشل ميديا 4 سبتمبر
إمبارح الشباب طلع مظاهرات قام الجيش ضرب عليهم رصاص حي
أكتر من وزير استقالوا فالحكومة انهارت و النهارده الرئيس و رئيس الوزرا استقالوا و هربوا و المتظاهرين اقتحموا مباني الدولة و ولعوا في مقرات الأحزاب الحاكمة و بيوت رجال الدولة و المعتقلات
و ماتش كورة ودي مع بنجلادش اتكنسل
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>>214696331
>أكتر من وزير استقالوا فالحكومة انهارت و النهارده الرئيس و رئيس الوزرا استقالوا و هربوا
و احنا في /شأشأ/ وش المطلوب مننا نروح نقدم على ذي الفرص الشاغرة؟
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>>214696404
في قصصهم عبرة لأولي الألباب
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>>214696551
لا لبيب هنا
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>>214696590
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أُكلت يوم أُكل الثور الأبيض
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>>214697124
هل حلبته؟
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>>214696331
أحا يا عم مكنتش اعرف قد ايه كنت مشتاق لاني اري الاهجة المصرجية الين ما شفت العليق ده. طوال اليوم قاعد بترجم حوار النفارقة وبحاول اترجم عربي + بربري + فرنجي (لعنة الله عليهم) والموضوع بضنني بضاناً ساحقاً عشان انا حمار ومش فاهم حاجه. شكراً اخي استوينيانون لوشفتك تالله لاعطينك حضن + ب.ج
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>>214697807
اللهجة* التعليق*
احيه معرفش حتي اكتب لغتي. إنه حقاً قد انتهي
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>>214697807
بارك مكاريوس فيك
إعمل ثريد جديد بقى
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>>214689798
Hey kanaposter, long time no see. Why not visit here??
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>>214697807
>(لعنة الله عليهم)
I thought we were friends...
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How do Muslims of /int/ think of apostaty laws in each country
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>>214696331
A Marxist's wet dream. I'm glad you're alive to witness this, Yasta.
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>>214699237
Yes you're frens and we're Nafris too, but fuck the Fr*nks. Them and Charlemagne are the dogs of hell, not the khawarij as the haidths say, wherein they shall reside for eternity, may Allah's curses be infinitely multiplied and fall upon their heads like lightning. May their ranks be cast into confusion and disarray and may they strike each other down in the darkness for Allah will strike them with blindness and beffudle their wits. Don't speak Fr*nch brother, speak English instead.



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