Turks are settler colonists who live on stolen land.
>>215084592ummmm all land is stolen sweatie before you lived in ireland the noble wapamalsla hunter gatherer people lived in peace until getting genocided by the northern settler trans siberia orchestra peoples circa 10000 bc
Turks are hung tops that can colonize my bussy
>>215084614c-can i colonize your bussy too? please?
>>215084592You ever notice Anti-Colonialists and Anti-Imperialists have never once complained about a Non-Western Empire? Northern Cyprus is right there too.
>>215084592All whites are colonizers on stolen BLACK land.
>>215084643They complain about Israel which quite arguably isn't Western.Where they're really hypocritical is when they don't complain about stuff like the Soviet Union forcing eastern Europe under its fist.
>>215084592No, they are natives to their land. The actual weird thing is choosing a central asian identity which makes up like 10% of their dna when most of it is anatolian. I do not understand why they continue to do that
They are literally just Greeks who got raped into being culturally Turkish
>>215084662Well turks were the rulers, would you rather identity as the rulers or the ones who were ruled
>>215084643>>215084660Free Tibet used to be a thing
>>215084660They specifically identify Israel as White and Western in their critique of it's colonialism thoughbeit
>>215084732>catcher glasses>not pitcher glasseskek fag
>>215084721Yeah, 20+ years ago. Also they never called that imperialism or especially colonialism.
>>215084592all territorial claims before c. 1918-1945 are IRRELIVENT since that's when the current world order began with the UN and such. If you dont accept that, the can of worms gets so GAPED that England could renew her angiven claims to 2/3rd of France, Germany could take over the Baltics, and Syria has claims on Spain.
>>215084660Angela Davis (a communist and whose activism the reason every college in the USA has their own third worldist 'ethnic studies' department) literally went to the eastern bloc and praised east german border guards who shot people fleeing communism lol
>>215084764>Syria has claims on Spain.nigga what, that's moroccans
>>215084732But it's... not. They just group whatever they don't like in as "white".Culturally Jews are an in-between Western civilization and an ancient Bronze Age culture. They're not fully Western and don't see Greco-Romans as their main cultural predecessors.
I mean aren't we all?
>>215084771I'm talking about pop politics.
>>215084778under the de jure Bagdad caliphate o aglo
>>215084790You become native when you kill off all the cultures on the land older than you. Until then you're a colonizer.
>>215084662My parents are Turkish and I acknowledge my Anatolian roots Why would I be proud of some steppe tent nomads when I could identify with the people who literally invented civilization
they are greeks and armenians that got absorbed into the islamic world
>>215084813I mean turks did that too I don't get it why people still crying about it after like 600 years It's the most shia thing that westerns can do
>>215084859>I mean turks did that tooGreeks and Kurds still exist though so no.
>>215084845baffles me how people consider seljuks and ottomans steppe nomads, yeah I get their turkic roots but they literally have zero in common with steppe niggers of today, they probably were more related to Sogdians and such, the niggers who invaded anatolia literally came from the seljuk empire, not random steppe niggers
>>215084845Why not both? Anatolians and Turkic nomads are both cool in their own way. If i was french id be flexing roman, germanic and celtics heritage underr the french badge. A turk can flex anatolian and turkic heritage under the turkish badge. Theres a lot of countries that have absolutely nothing to flex
>>215084859Me as Turk content knowing that:>the first cities ever built were in my country >we are a Persianate and a Roman civilization (and that's a good thing) >Greeks will NEVER get Constantinople back
>>215084882Turkic culture is coolFact remains that their genetic contribution to our current population is relatively small compared to indigenous Anatolians
>>215084892Im unironically bitterabout greeks betraying their roman identity to larp as a bunch of hellenes. Not having constantinople is their punishment. Why would ANYONE chose ancient greece over rome. Ancient greece lost to rome
>>215084878>GreeksIn anatolia?>KurdsThey were the foot soldiers for the empire. Even in times of genocide, they did most of the killing. That’s why Armenian nationalists don’t like them. All I’m saying is this gather an army and take the city, church, or whatever back, or stop crying about it. And I’m not saying this in a hostile way. It’s just stupid.
>>215084892Revive Hittite
>>215084920Most Turks are larpers and especially those from the east. Azeri and Turkmen like Turks are also schizos who were the enemies of the ottomans today larping as brothersturks that come from the balkans have more turkic heritage than "turks" east of ankara and that speaks volumes lol
>>215084995>>Greeks>In anatolia?White Americans pushed Cherokees out the Appalachias. I guess Cherokees are no longer native to where they're from.And admittedly idk much about Kurds but they're Indo-European so they've probably been there longer than Turks.
>>215085004Funnily enough, Turkish nationalists sometimes seethe when you mention them because they think you're implying that our ancestors weren't TVRKICK The Hittite sun disk is used as a motif in Turkey though, like in the seal of Ankara University
>>215084800Where do you think they learn this shit? They teach critical theory and the oppressor vs oppressed dialectic as fact in universities.
>>215084892All I'm saying is anatolia is Turkish land at this point and Deus vult larpers most except it
>>215085023Kurds came even later than turks to anatolia. They were living in the zagros mountains and at some point the shah of persia chimped out because they were sunnis and they settled in their current lands.
>>215085067I agree The same tradlarpers believe the entirety of the North American continent is rightful Anglo clay btw, really unserious people
>>215084592fuck timmy gon do?
>>215084764>England could renew her angiven claims to 2/3rd of FranceNigga, If Angevin (meaning from Angers, the city in Pays de Loire) was ever a thing again, It would be French lords claiming England, not the other way around
The moment you actually take a look into genetics you already see the giant disconnect from modern central asians and the indo-aryan populations that lived there during it's peak times like Sogdia etc that then turned into Seljuks, they carry more northern euro dna than asian lel
>>215085125>The moment you actually take a look into genetics you already see the giant disconnect from modern central asiansI knew it when I looked in a mirror.
>>215084845anatolians didn't invent civilization. hittites were irrelevant rape products of hattians. that's why the world almost forgot about them
>>215085256Nobody said anything about HittitesThe earliest cities were founded in the vicinity of Konya circa 7500 BCE
certain turkic groups like karluks don't even have any asian input.guess it was random sintashta converts going we are turkic kangz, it's hard to really know what followed what into seljuks but the turkics definitely weren't homogenous nor pure mongols
>>215085268merely living in a mud hut isn't civilization. and the people inhabiting that area predate the emergence of anatolian languages
Imagine being a turk trying to talk about anatolian civilization and every time the moment you mention it greeks, armenians and kurds triple tag team to mention you arent related to them and how they are the real anatolians. Id be pissed
>>215085256nigger are you retarded, hattians spoke a non IE language and you're telling me hittites who spoke a IE language was a rape product of hattians?tell me how you're a pajeet without telling me you're a pajeet
>>215085296They were cities with populations in the several thousands that practiced agricultureYes, they didn't speak Anatolian languages, those are relative newcomers to the region Imagine thinking that the first sedentary people of Anatolia spoke an Indo-European language
>>215085334indo europeans with substantial churkjeet DNA invaded the city of Hatti, killed the hattian men, took the women, and fathered the "anatolian" race, language, and culture you now try to larp as. this is what archaeologists have long agreed on, roachanonhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hattians
>>215085305easier to distance yourself from it and those 3 groups have very little to do with anatolians except maybe greeks due to islander greeks and cypriots to a extent(before levantine rape) who are just anatolians but I don't really see them complaining.armenians aren't anatolian genetically nor historically, kurds are just iranians.it's those two primarily yapping, mostly due to inferiority complex and trying to claim everything of anatolia as theirs because they got nothing to stand on
>>215085444Is your nose blocking your vision or something? There is no Hattian DNA sample and Hittites do not carry much I.E DNA at all, barely anything in fact.The article you listed literally say they were absorbed by the hittites who spoke I.E, not that they were raped by I.E invaders that then became Hittites, lmfao
>>215084592C O N S T A N T I N O P L E
>>215085549>they were ~absorbed~ anon they weren't slaughtered and destroyedwhatever man. just quit trying to impress people here by larping as a dead indojeet language group. it's pathetic
>>215084592What did an infant who spawned anywhere steal?
>>215085610bro, are you really this retarded, the origins of IE isn't even known, experts still discuss this and hittites were a hot topic as the origin due to migration paths and them being the first known IE language.if you really just want to know who's the hittite successors, you can just use DNA tracing - in which western turks (except those near balkan), islander greeks, cypriots primarily share that heritage, although it's also widespread in southern balkan.armenian ancestors are urartu, not hittites although hittites or their successors probably raped them into speaking a IE language as there is geneflow present.
>>215085559IslamBVLL not cuckstantinople
>>215085680i wasn't making the implication that hittites are armenians. nothing supports that. the nobility of hittite empire had closer DNA to caucasus like georgians and chechensarmenian ancestors are indojeets lmao. they have zero trace of their old culcha and they speak a typical indojeet filthy sanskirt adjacent language. retards abandoned their semite origins and havent stopped paying the price ever since
>>215084592you are an english colonist in ireland
