If you're reading any book by one of our "great national authors" there's a 100% chance it's either about a)love or b)being a retarded fucking peasant that argues with other retarded peasants. I think kids being forced to study this utter imaginatively dead repetitive literary garbage in school is making them less likely to read since they just assume all books must be like this. There are very few Romanian authors worth a damn and they are not taught in the curriculum. I guess this is what you get when you have a country where nobody other than churchmen could fucking read before the mid 1800s.
Eliade, Cioran, Cartarescu, Codreanu, the list goes on.
>>215166946All smart Romanians leave Romania and move to the West. Like Hunyadi. >>215166839Same here. Remember reading some shitty novel about muh Ottomans at the age of 10.
literature in schools is from other countries like egypt or legit from the middle ageswe ourselves have nothing
>>215166946>EliadeBoring as fuck >Cioran, CartarescuNot taught >Codreanu Only autistic chuds read him, he was a retard and also Polish.>>215166996Can't be as bad. I've heard enough to pick up a book by László Krasznahorkai recently as a foreigner so that's already a high mark.
>>215166839>being a retarded fucking peasant that argues with other retarded peasantsseems cool, what are any examples?
>>215167132He is not in schools. Also I don't know anything about him except that he goes on long anti-orbán tirades.
>>215167134Anything by Rebreanu, Sadoveanu, Camil Petrescu. "Ion" particularly is the worst piece of shit ever written and a mandatory study for all highschool kids in this country.
And by the way Cioran is hardly even part of Romanian literature. He emmigrated to France early on and wrote all his works in French and was influenced heavily by existentialism which was a French literary current.
>>215166839as a kid I was forced to read hobbit and lord of the rings
>>215166839wait until they discover the insane romanian jew max blecher lmaowe really have nothing to brag about
>>215167564Like, in school?
>>215167732maybe by his parents
>>215166839>being a retarded fucking peasant that argues with other retarded peasantssoul, this is what spain used to be about
>>215167732like my dad
growing up is realizing the fantasy genre actually mogs "real" literature
>>215167843"real" literature is super gay and pretentious because it's generally historical period stuff but glossing over the historical part to get through the fart huffing "oooh this is about le human soul in the darkness of peeepeeshitnigger..." instead of:a) Historical Literature (Awesome because history is awesome and fun of real, interesting things that ACTUALLY happened and weren't invented by one faggot huffing farts in his Viennese apartment).b) Fantasy Literature (Awesome because it's not constricted by, but inspired by historical events with a creative twist).'real' literature i.e. period/contemporary fiction is the lamest fucking niggershit unless it leans heavily on historical elements which makes it passable>MIDWIT! IMBECILE! RETARD! NOBOOKS!I don't care how many times you've read War & Peace unc, nobody gives a fuck.
>>215167812Well, what do Poles read in school?
>>215166839>Lord of the flies>We>To kill a mockingbirdAll political and cringe, the only book I remember enjoying was into the wild
>>215168101redpill me on blood meridian
>>215168101Those are all actually good however. You angloids have no idea how good you have it.
>>215168174yeah I don't think mutts understand the kind of 19th century protoslop we're forced to read in school in evropa
>>215168216Not all of Europe. It's generally smaller countries that suffer the most here. In Romania we had the unholy trifecta of:>small language >very low literacy rates >communist government
>>215166996>Hunyadithe japanese guy who makes cars? I didn't know he wrote
>>215166839What genre of literature do you enjoy?Which language do you most enjoy reading in?Which country's literature do you most love?If you read translations (for example of a Russian novelist's work), do you read them in Romanian, English or another language?
>>215168530Janos Hunyadi/Iancu de Hunedoara. Hungarian general of Romanian origin that kept the Ottomans in check for a while and gave Hungary a lease on life for another century.
>>215168406but professor Utonium added another element censor + buttkissing the commies
>>215168614it's kind of hard to find books in another language (other that english) if you want to buy them
>>215166839"For my legionaries" was alright
>>215167991Yeah i just read academical history books instead, the characters are more fleshed out there too
>>215168714No it's not, what? Go to libristo and you will find basically any book you want in whatever language you want.
>>215166996Hungary is not westernYou’re more Eastern European and Slavic than the Czechs
>>215168757>libristoI haven't heard of this one, got to check it out, I used bookexpress in the past for a book in french I needed, but I couldn't find any russian ones, as in the original text, not translated
>"For my legionaries" was alright
>>215168124A meme book for edgy redditors. Not even the author's best.
>>215168757dude they are expensive for my budget (T . T )
>>215167132>Cioran>Not taught Why?
>>215168908he is a philosopherno poetry, no narrative, just diary entries
>>215168757A lot of anons on here claim translations are poor in their native languages, or at least there are far fewer books translated into them
>>215168901I don't know about other languages but English paperbacks are like 10-15 euros a piece.
>>215168908He's French.
>>215168938But still, he is one of the most famous Romanians
>>215168948well if I ever end up putting money aside I might buy from this site, I don't know how long it'd take for the books to arrive though, with foreign books it takes a few months
>>215168948£9 or £10 is pretty standard for a paperback here
>>215168901>(T . T )Neck yourself, faggot
>>215168981yeah, in exilelook if you go to philo university you might only hear about him, but he is not highschool level you dummy
>>215169041erooo gurooo
>>215169041emojis are cute though -.-
>>215166839>I guess this is what you get when you have a country where nobody other than churchmen could fucking read before the mid 1800salso being spoken by very few peopledoña bárbara from venezuela was only published because they found someone interested on printing it in spain
what read are you putting off anonsfor me it's the traffic ticket I got last week
>>215166839>national literature you were forced to study in schoolI remember the baroque poetry of this troubled nigga resonated a lot with teenage me in middle school. Other authors, specially other literary movements (like neoclassicism, romanticism or realism) sounded either very boring, dumb or pretentious as hell
>>215167812Based dad.
>>215167991Based autist.
>>215166839Genius insight: Size matters.Europe at one point decided splinter into a thousand small countries and to expect that every single one of those will have produced enough good writers to fill a school curriculum is obviously nonsense.
>>215169657didn't you hear? trump fixed autism
>>215166839All fiction are jewish lies.
>>215169848no autism no more
>>215168885I look like that
>>215166839That's because you only have books taught in school as a reference. Even among those, some are good ("Ciocoii vechi si noi") and others not so much. The teachers have more time to explain stuff if you choose philology in high school. Even "Ion" has some interesting things to say about greed and land ownership at the time. You also have to take into account commie censorship. Then there's also stuff not taught in school like Anton Holban - "Conversatii cu o Moarta".
>>215169013>it takes a few months2-3 weeks top for English ones. Just 2 usually.
>>215170144 give me a break, I speak form exp sadlyit's either a month or a few months
>>215169013Carturesti? They have lots of books in foreign languages. Some are cheap.
>>215170199I know the penguin classics ones, but good luck with finding any french or russian ones irl
>>215170254If you live in Bucharest maybe you can borrow some books from the French Institute.
>>215170293happily I don't actually need them so I'm not gonna go that far
I just think it's funny how when you talked about foreign books you only referred to the english ones
>>215170196Me too. Idk where the fuck you are ordering team, shepherd hut in the Apuseni Mountains?
>>215166839>literature BADWow anon, what an original take, I bet no young person ever thought of this one. >muh curriculum.Given the absolute state of the education of Romanian, having them read and maybe even understand any literature at all would a miracle, even the thing you think of as "boring'. > think kids being forced to study this utter imaginatively dead repetitive literary garbage in school is making them less likely to read since they just assume all books must be like this.So what is your alternative?>making them less likely to read since they just assume all books must be like this.That means they were retards in the first place anyway.
>>215170888>what is your alternativeInternational literature instead of national. It's not like we lack translations anymore like in communist times and the 90s. But then bumkin fucks who never read a book in their lives will start seething about muh Soros erasing our kultur or something.
I'm from Barcelona and they made us read catalan books, I remember one called "Mecanoscrit del segon origen" and it was full of erotic passages, vivid descriptions of the protagonist bare breasts, how tanned they were, etc.
>>215166839Another feudal slave culture discovers he isn't a freeman like the gaels
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>>215171080After a while that becomes cliche as well and contrarians will want to go back to the "roots" and say stuff like>muh Soros erasing our kultur or somethingYou still need to start with the native literature if Romanian don't understand that they they probably wouldn't understand foreign one either.I mean people don't seem to have ever read or understood anything from Caragiale, which would be very basic. Id they don't do at least that, they are a lost cause. In any case>International literature instead of national. They should be together, or one after the other. Plus I do remember English/US and French literature being discussed in language classes, so that already exists or should exist, in some form
>>215166839Polish literature is decent.Quo Vadis even got a Hollywood adaptation in the golden age of movies.Dziady 2 are pure folklore kino, Dizady 3 less so, but still has amazing peaks.Pan Taduesz is kinda mid though.Lalka rules, it's just a cool story
>>215167658>Vara intram la matineu devreme și ieșeam seara când începea să se înnopteze. Lumina afară era schimbată, ziua pe sfârșite se stingea. Constatam astfel că în absența mea se petrecuse în lume un fapt imens și esențial ca un fel de tristă obligație a ei de a-și continua mereu – prin înnoptare de pildă – munca regulată, diafană și spectaculară. Intram astfel din nou în mijlocul unei certitudini care prin rigurozitatea ei zilnică mi se părea de-o melancolie fără sfârșit. Într-o astfel de lume, supusă celor mai teatrale efecte și obligată în fiecare seară să reprezinte un apus de soare corect, oamenii din jurul meu apăreau ca niște biete ființe de compătimit pentru seriozitatea cu care erau mereu ocupați și credeau naiv în ceea ce fac și ceea ce simt. Exista doar o singură ființă în oraș care înțelegea aceste lucruri și pentru care aveam o admirație plină de respect: era nebuna orașului. Ea singură în mijlocul unor persoane rigide și umplute până în vârful capului cu prejudecăți și convenții, ea singură își păstrase libertatea de a țipa și de a dansa pe stradă când vroia. Umbla zdrențuită pe străzi, roasă de jeg, știrbă, cu părul roșu vâlvoi, ținând în brațe cu o tandreță maternă o lădiță veche plină cu coji de pâine și cu diferite obiecte culese prin gunoaie.
>>215171395I think the reason people aren't interested in those books is they are a shit fucking read. Not Caragiale though, he aight, but he's no novelist.>Plus I do remember English/US and French literature being discussedNever happened when I went to school. If you did discuss it I assume it was a passing mention not actually study it in class and have the kids read it.
>>215166839>The Crucible>The Catcher in the Rye>Animal Farm>1984>Les Misérables>The Outsiders>Fifth Business>Everything written by Shakespeare>Everything by Margaret Atwoodthat basically sums up literature in high school for me
>>215169071>but he is not highschool level you dummyDoesn't matter, forcing students to learn dogshit boring local authors will discourage them from actually paying attention when some interesting authors are being discussed (speaking from experience).
>>215171344it was marxist propaganda, as you can imagine, post-apoc utopian rebuilding under egalitarian principles, etc. and the protagonists were a white catalan girl and a black boy, this was written in the 70's where people here had only seen blacks on TV
