As you can see, a cow has veins going through its bottom neck and upper neck.Kosher and Halal slaughter are still so outdated that they only slice the bottom neck and let the cow "bleed out".But the cow doesn't bleed out at all, not within the first 5 minutes.You see the veins going through its upper neck are still sufficient enough to keep it conscient and alive as its slowly drowning in its own blood.So ritualistic slaughter is the most inhumane practise for cows, as it does nothing. Luckily slaughterhouses in the West require you to shoot a stun gun through its head after 20 seconds, so the cow only has to suffer 20 seconds before its paralyzed.This is why halal and kosher need to be banned, and that muzzies and jews are fucking retarded and should be beaten the shit out of them cause they refuse to come to the 21st century.
Yeah that's kind of fucked up. Too bad they blow stuff up and kill people if you point it out.
What about camels goats sheep
>>215219500>whataboutism
>>215219500They're at the bottom neck but it's still humaner to use a stun gun or gas them to paralyze.Halal and Kosher slaughter is a weird rule cause they think that applying the knife is the only exception towards killing an animal. If you use a stun gun first, it's not Halal/Kosher approved because the process has to be reversable before a knife is put on its throat.Hence why gassing chickens is "Halal or Kosher", because the act of gassing them to make them weary and drowsy is reversable before they get their heads cut off.
>>215219341What is the halal/ kosher argument for religious slaughter anyways? Why do they do it
>>215219341Blah blah blah...I hate when EuroPeons back up healthy intuitive xenophobia with hippy liberal bullshit talking points.It's really not that intelligent or nuanced it just makes you look like a sheltered faggot who can't just say "they don't belong here."
>>215219572Yep, retarded religions
>>215219599they do it because the desert book says tothey have small minds and dont need reasons to do things
>>215219341I'll get you on a little secret about halal meat in France. It's the same fucking meat as non-halal one. I've had two different people working in the field tell me, the only difference between halal and non halal is that they put the meat in different trucks before it's shipped out to be packed. The cattle is killed the same way, they don't give a shit
>>215219341>20 secondsWhat?We use the punch airguns to kill ours to begin with
>>215219645Fat and irrelevant
>>215219599>You just have to do it ok?>t. Big G
>>215219572>gasI've seen several sad videos of CO2 being used which really makes animals panic and feel suffocated. Better to use carbon monoxide
>>215219341That's how we killed all animals for millenias in EuropeWe collect the blood for blood sausage and in cases of chicken that's just the procedureWhen you're hunting you also bleed out your catchesStop being a retarded chud
>>215220203Based
>>215219341if God told us to slaughter animals exactly this way then it cannot be "barbaric" per se, simple
>>215219341it doesn't matter that veins are still connected to brainthe blood pressure drops after you cut the artery in the neck and the animal will still lose consciousness shortly after
Kosher slaughter is more thorough than halal slaughter. It's important to separate the two in examination. Shochet go through more years of training than the average butcher or slaughterer.>If I understand correctly, the classical Halachic requirements on kosher slaughter only discuss cutting the trachea and esophagus. Is that enough to kill the animal quickly (and painlessly?) What about the blood vessels? Are those usually cut too? Must they be?>It is discussed at length in Siman 20 of Yore De'ah. Essentially the shochet needs to cut through the Trachea, Esophagus, carotid artery and the jugular vein. Both of these shield the esophagus and trachea at the place where the cut is to take place. This would lead to a fairly quick bleed out with the animal becoming nonsensical in a matter of seconds. Siman 24 discusses what happens if the cut wasn't deep enough. Thus only slicing the major blood vessels but not the breathing apparatus.
not allowed in Germany anyway.I think the Netherlands export slaughtered goods.>>215219599health reasons, but ritualistic.can't consume blood, have to drain the blood, can't eat carrion, or diseased animals, must be healthy, strong, slaughtered animals.>>215220574Since butchering is illegal, and you have to obey the Law of a place, you must become vegetarian.
>>215219341It's all a rort, they just want the tax free money and extort companies for certification. If they pray before they consume it, anything that they're usually allowed to consume can become halal
>>215219341>hurr durrr blerghhhhWho cares, do you genuinely believe this dude cares about that hippie shit when hunting for food
>>215221529He didn't care about killing it in a specific way to please his jewish god like a retarded muzdog either
>>215221632atop seething while I boil dog alive & blender baby monkey then
>>215221632>his jewish godJesus an Israeli Jewish man worshipped as God by his inferiors
>>215221702jews also don't eat lobster, which is usually boiled alive.Fish is fair game, for most, but then again the Japanese eat live seafood.
>>215219341you clearly have never seen a shochet doing it
Most firsties are used to fish sticks, burgers and dino nuggets.They lack the exposure to animal body parts, skulls and blood, the visceral part of it is completly reduced in a super market.
Doesn't the brain instantly pass out when it experiences a huge change in pressure?I don't know if an animal would be conscious for long after that
>>215222099it does, OP is a faggotyou can watch shechita on youtube
i agree its messed up, i dont have too many options for normal slaughter meat here but when i can i buy from the russian delis who arent kosher
>>215219645Yeah I agree. Especially since I don't give a fuck how cows are killed also that shit is trad and based I support they keep doing it but I don't support anyone does it in my country to appease their special baby nigger food requirements.
>>215222099That's the thing with cows, they may experience a bit of change in pressure, making them a little bit wazy, but then the other vein kicks in and they regain consciousness.>>215222185Uma macaco delicoisa faggot boiling monkeys alive here
>>215221375We don't eat halal meat our standards are higher than that of the muzies
not OP but i find it deeply ironic only the greens and communists are against unsedated slaughter. almost as if they're fishing for a certain vote. you'll never guess who's
>>215223704>tf>tp>"we don't really torture animals to death, we're better than that even though we do the exact same thing as the people we despise"got it, the message is clear. how many fridges do you have? and do you have a goy to turn on the lights on saturday?
>>215223879>how many fridgesNormally four>and do you have a goy to turn on the lights on saturdayNo the laws on that are complicated my house has a timer for lights but normally I just turn everything off except the bathroom lights before shabbat
>>215219341>Here's whybro you don't have to explain that much. If islam is in favor then it's clearly wrong
>>215219341>You see the veins going through its upper neck are still sufficient enough to keep it conscient and aliveDo you mean arteries? Veins carry blood towards the heart.Also the arteries near the throat in your picture look fucking huge so I don't think the cow's blood pressure is gonna be too good after they're cut.
>>215220886>with the animal becoming nonsensical>nonsennsicalI dunno a cow being a nonsense animal sounds funny
>>215223929Can you open the fridges during shabbat? Or have you disabled the door lights?
>>215224094>Can you open the fridges during shabbat?Yes, the have it rigged so the light don't turn on
>>215219341Honestly, I think all religion is wrong.I'm as white as they come, and I only stay away from Pork because my grandfather never ate it.Said pork tastes too much like man when they were occupied by Nazis, and that stuff stays with you for life when you hear it as a kid.Weird reason, yes, but everyone has their principles. It's funny that I can gladly slurp down clams and shrimp basted in tomato sauce, but there's arbitrary lines I draw here because of childhood trauma.
reading all this, i'm glad i'm christian (catholic). no autistic bullshit about who turns on the lights and when, screaming animals while you cut the throat, mutilating your children while the crowd laughsno. some water over my head and that was it, and being told to not be a twat because jesus' core message was to not be a twat. not a difficult choiceamerimutts and their warped view however, no comment
>>215224734>I'm as white as they come, and I only stay away from Pork because my grandfather never ate it.bruhand why dokeepreddit spacing?
>>215223807Did they ever openly state they want to bring it back?
>>215226185as far as i'm aware they're simply against it for obvious reasons. obvious reasons they don't want to admitga terug naar de blandijn lel, daar spreken ze u niet tegen
>>215219341At abattoirs in Australia, which do "halal" and "kosher" products for export or the domestic market, tend to cut the neck of the animal after it has already been given a shock/stud punch to the head. The slaughtermen effectively kill them with the gun before they are cut, since they need to die as fast as possible as to not hold up the process line.
>>215226843De Groenen zijn nochtans pro verbod.https://www.groenbrussel.be/boodschap_onverdoofd_slachtenHet zijn de sossen en de pvda-ers die tegen zijn.
>>215226974that's hateful. jewish, muslim, green, communist, feels will get hurt if the animal doesn't suffer as they are supposed to
>>215227304en de windhaan wijst op dit moment naar het zuiden
>>215219341It's just a cow/sheep/pig. What matters is how it lived. Religious people are not becoming sane with logic.
>>215227407That's also important achmed
>>215227407i'll also just saw your chest open, tear your heart out and burn it. just religion, right? please don't be a bigot or the sun won't come upyou're not a bigot? now hold still
>>215227429Animal cruelty is unlawful because we don't want people with sadistic traits.Religious people are seldom moved with logic. This is just a topic without an end. I'm just stating what history has already proved. How the meat animal died doesn't change the constituents however.
>>215227596>How the meat animal died doesn't change the constituents however.This ahs nothing to do with why we slaughter the animals as we do
>>215227669I don't care about your beliefs. It's your animals. They won't come back haunting me for not fighting for their rights to die at the hands of a veterinarian high on morphine. It's an animal.
