what happened to Deutschland?
>>215323327>The endIt was over in the 90s we just got lucky for a few more years
>>215323327Arrogance and pride. As soon as you start thinking you're the best, you stop trying, which makes you lazy and weak.
they decided cheap energy is too spicy
>>215323327>industrial economy and seen as the leader of europe>make yourself dependent on cheap russian gas>refuse to build nuclear power because... ???>russia chimps out against europe>leader of europe sanctions russia>russia hikes gas prices>all of a sudden energy becomes expensive and industry slows down>who could have guessed
>>215323376you had one jobput a penis into vagina and produce many little Helmuts to assemble more and more carsyet you failed at ithow can you look at yourself in the mirror now, when you think of all the previous generations of your ancestors you disappointed?
>>215323457this and also don't tell the entire middle east to come on over
>>215323424it's not necessarily easy to switch from gas to other forms of energy for some industrial processes
>>215323659it's either nuclear or coal now and they chose to burn coal
>>215323327Demographics, migration, Green party policies.
>>215323659which industrial processes specifically are those
>>215323659Even if that were true that does not justify being completely dependent on Russian gas and banning nuclear energy
>>215323745chemical production BASF needs half of all german gas supplyies if i remember
>>215323745making fertilizer and anything requiring really hot furnaces, like making glass or ceramic or cement or steel. You CAN do that without gas but it's MUCH more expensive
>>215323327Not enough immigration
>>215323841UK will need at least 10 million more indians to catch up to german gdp per capita and if you import 100 million indians imagine... British empire will be reborn
>>215323327angela merkel
>>215323943they still revere this bitch, too. She recently said some shit about how mass migration was "bad" but only because it boosted the far right
>>215323327Capital in Germany is way too concentrated in the hands of the same clueless old farts and they are really clueless about 21st century capitalism.Americans and Chinese don't have this problem. Lots of young dynamic billionaires who know how to invest in the future.Once all those old farts start dying and the heirs start managing the empire it might change.
>>215323962Germany was good under her, now it's suddenly shit.
>>215324114>Once all those old farts start dying and the heirs start managing the empire it might change.it will never change because most of german economy is focused on making disel engines even if volkswagen would dominate electic cars that would still resolve in 100s of thousand workers layoff because electric cars have 100 componets not few thousands
>>215324155if you didn't ate anything today would you be hungry?
>>215324208I haven't eaten anything today and I am indeed hungry
>>21532422180iq confirmedKEK
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>>215323327Siemens is leading AI-driven industrial automation.
>>215323943mein mutti :)
they ask Putin for help, just imagine how desperate they are in Germany.
>>215323836this post feels extremely anti-Semitic
>>215324327First of all say something without making a spelling mistake
>>215324327That would only work in a counterfactual setting. In the factual setting (as is the case here), your current feeling can suffice as an answer. The dane recognizes the hypothetical nature of the question, it just happens to coincide with his current disposition. The fact that you don't recognize this says more about your IQ
Merkel-Scholz-HabeckThe Kenya coalition of death.
>>215324455it's a grammatical error not a spelling mistake
>>215325785how do you rate Merz for now?
>>2153233271. They stopped buying cheap Russian gas in favour of expensive American and Middle Eastern LNG2. They closes down their nuclear energy planta
>>215323457>russia hikes gas pricesNo they didn't, stop making shit up
>>215326039uhhh if it's too expensive to produce stuff in Germany after the Nord Stream mysteriously exploded maybe...they should move their industry to their beloved neighbors east of them? we're going to have a nuclear power plant soon, there will be a lot of cheap energy...and no stinking Russian gas!
>>215326071>they should move their industry to their beloved neighbors east of them?That's what Germany is doing, building more car factories in Hungary due to their cheaper energy costs, I wonder why Hungary still has cheap energy costs...
>>215326117somehow you don't see that reflected in Hungary's numbers, their economy is the worst performing in the region currently
>>215326194worst performing is relative when growth is sluggish across the board at 1-2%.
>>215326238Poland is growing much faster than Hungary despite not buying Russian gas
>>215323327It’s demographics. Energy prices etc are just one Part of the equation but over 40% of your population being over 60 while 20% are over 30 is a death sentence. That’s the whole reason why we import Muslims on mass since 2015, cheap Russian resources just kept the companies in Germany for the time being and easend the problem.
>>215326068In the early months of the war Russia did deliberately manipulate the gas prices, trying to get as much as they can while the EU was still buying a lot of it. Like during the summer of 2022 they kept putting pipelines on "repair" which would immediately lead to a surge in prices and increased profit for them. They eventually had to cut this shit out because China became their main buyer, and Russia depends on them too much to risk angering them with price manipulation. But this did lead to Russia having record breaking profits in 2022, thanks to retarded European companies and governments caving in to Russia's manipulations.
>>215326266you're still buying Russian LNG, the EU buys 50% of all Russian LNG
>>215326420that being said, that manipulated Russian gas was still cheaper than the $750 billion in energy Von der Leyen promised to pay Trump
>>215323457>Russia chimps out against europeEurope chimps out against Russia*
>>215326420>they kept putting pipelines on "repair"Are you retarded? The turbine for the pipe was literally held hostage
>>215326431we stopped buying their LNG this year and still LNG has minuscule importance for the economy as a whole
>>215326480Price might not be even the main issue here. In the long run, becoming dependent on American gas might be almost as bad as depending on Russia. For now USA is still somewhat democratic and predictable as a business partner but who knows where they're heading. If 2022 has taught us anything, it's that sources need to be diversified.
we should pay even 7.5 trillion if only we could cut off Russian resources and also get full American commitment to European security
>>215326604>>215326667>full American commitment to European securityThe most that Trump will give you is letting EU's sluggish economies fund more of the American MIC. America sees the Russia-Ukraine war as a proxy war, they're not going to get involved in directly fighting for their own proxies. >>215326636>For now USA is still somewhat democratic and predictable as a business partnerTrump imposed higher tariffs on the EU than he is currently imposing on China, while at the same time pressuring EU leaders to impose secondary sanctions on China and India and anyone else buying Russian energy. Classic isolation tactic from a bully.
>>215323327Unironically Greens.
>>215326518go back to the front
>>215326732>America sees the Russia-Ukraine war as a proxy war,and that's a good thing, no one wants to make it WW3America provides us security by supporting Ukraine to the point so Russia cannot prevail and it's fine
>>215323457>against Europe*against Ukraineabsolutely nobody forced the EU to support Ukraine and sanction Russia. Just because Tyrone defends timmy doesn’t mean Daquan was targeting Tyrone.
Europe is cucked. I think the main is anti industrial policies. Nothing ever gets built these days because there's laws against setting up industry. It needs to be sustainable but sustainability doesn't always pay bills
>>215325930He is managing the burning pile of feces that this nation has turned into.Since extinguishing the fire would "endanger the climate" or is "racist", he isn't doing it, because he has been forced into a coalition with the losers of last elections by OurDemocracy's "firewall".Which is not to say, he has a problem with that. He has betrayed his voters and he and his party will get their just deserts in future elections.The question is, how much of this once great country will be left to salvage at that point.If there is one thing the world should learn from German history, it's that socialism of ALL types ends in disaster.Put the individual and the family first and stop any and all attempts to socialize or collectivize anything.
>>215327523Aren't migrants ok as long as they pay taxes and integrate?
>>215327629not if they're brown
Germany is an average great country. Russia is a random shithole that for some reason really wants to impose itself on superior countries./thread
>>215327629Sure. They don't, though.Germans will have to integrate into the Caliphate that's getting planned by Islamist groups on the premises of the current Federal Republic of Germany.We have Syrians living with two wives and 10 children on social welfare at full-citizen level. Why should they integrate?
>>215327523I really hope the AfD crush the other political parties in future elections, I can't fucking wait for those Atlanticist boomer scum, the ones who wail about the hall of costs and fetishise collective guilt", the ones who are happy to be America's and Israel's vassals, the ones who have no problem flooding their country with rapefugees to depress national wages, realise that their traitorous, cowardly actions have radicalised younger generations.
>>215324155>Germany was good under her, now it's suddenly shit.No. When the tide is low you find out who was without swimpants.
>>215324155She more than almost anyone else is the architect for Germany's current problems, fuck her
>>215327803As if the AfD is going to change anything
>>215323327Too scared of denbts
>>215327803AfD will destroy Germany faster than any other party
>>215327523>Put the individual and the family first and stop any and all attempts to socialize or collectivize anything.wait so i can't make it out, was NSDAP's views on the family what you like or not?
>>215327803They aren't "America's [...] vassals", they are the vassals of the US' "Democrat Party".Transatlantic cooperation is great, as long as the "Democrat Party" is not part of it.Israel seems unrelated, though. The "Democrats" want to see Israel dead, so it atones in place of them for "colonialism".>>215327887Better to have an advocate of the people than to have none, I'd say.At least for once what the absolute majority of the people across the nation thinks gets a voice in parliament.Not on public broadcasters, though, because the "journalists" on there don't want to give a platform to non-aligned views.Which sums up pretty well "what happened to Deutschland" and why it's so "kaputt".An elite reigning over the country that doesn't give a shit about the average citizen.
>>215327935>>215327887the current Germany is an 80 year old prison designed to subjugate the defeated German nation, in its place a greater, revitalised Germany will rise.
>>215327988No. The family in NS Germany was supposed to be a servant to the state.The individual wasn't free in its decision making. Socialism is a cancer that needs to get removed from this world once and for all.
>>215328132>The "Democrats" want to see Israel dead,Both Democrats and Republicans are AIPAC's stooges.
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>>215328132>advocate of the peoplethey're primarily advocates of the same international financial and economic elites as any other political party, just with a different coat of paint
>>215323327Well, at least they're geen and nuclear free.
Salaries have been dumped so low that working a job now pays only marginally better than being a NEET.They tried to fix it by flooding the country with third world men, but it turned out they are not as stupid as they thought they would be and refuse to work.tldr the capital owning class extracting all the money until the country ran dry
>>215328155A Germany run by russians who settled into east germany.I wouldn't be surprised if they annex Denmark because of their russian need to conquer
