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>there are people who unironibally believe that it would be better for Europe if Novgorod had prevailed over Moscow
Sure, let's make Tatars stronger by removing the only power that could rekt them and give away half of Europe to Muslims.
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>>215398184
are you saying Newtown woul've never expanded eastwards?
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>>215398184
Moscow were Mongolian lapdogs for 300 years wyta
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>You live in a world where alcoholic inbreds LARPing as Greeks destroyed the kingdom of Prester John
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>>215398184
We could tank that
>give away half of Europe to Muslims.
Better Tatar turban than the Patrirach's mitre ;)
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>>215398614
I don’t get it
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>>215398248
They were good merchants, but bad warriors. That's why they got defeated.

>>215398304
Moscow liberated itself from the Tatar yoke despite being surrounded by feral dogs on all sides. Ukraine was a lapdog of Poland-Lithuania for 400 years and couldn't even liberate itself from the Polish yoke without the Moscovian help.
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>>215398614
Daily reminder that France and UK protected Turkey from losing Constantinople.
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>>215399437
Who asked
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>>215398304
What does Kalita mean?
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>>215399522
You meant wyta? What (are) you talking about.
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>>215399516
Your shitpost.
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>>215399582
meds now
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>>215399575
Кaлитa
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>>215398184
Novgorod was the first capital of Rus,
that statement shouldn’t be forgotten.
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>>215399646
Idk
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>>215399437
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian%E2%80%93Ottoman_War_(1831%E2%80%931833)
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>>215399733
Ehrm...
>mudslims vs mudslims
Who cares, really?
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>>215399721
Ivan I is called Ivan Kalita because his shrewd financial management and ability to accumulate wealth and power earned him the nickname "Kalita," which means "moneybag" in Old Russian. He amassed wealth by faithfully collecting tribute for the Golden Horde and used it to buy lands and make loans to neighboring principalities, gradually expanding Moscow's territory and influence
>>215399772
Egypt had conquered almost all of Turkey besides the city of Constantinople where severe winter weather forced him to make camp at Konya long enough for the Sublime Porte to conclude an alliance with Russia, and for Russian forces to arrive in Anatolia, blocking his route to the capital.[11] The arrival of the Russian power would prove to be too great a challenge for Ibrahim's army to overcome. Wary of Russia’s expanding influence in the Ottoman Empire and its potential to upset the balance of power, French and British pressure forced Muhammad Ali and Ibrahim to agree to the Convention of Kütahya.
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>>215399840
>Constantinople
>severe winter weather
WHAT? LMAO
Also still mudslims vs mudslims. Are you Egyptian arap or something?
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>>215399936
Slav
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>>215398184
it was a republic and therefore kino
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>>215398184
>"Give away half of Europe"
>The "Europe" in question: random shitter steppe lands with no culture no nothing that weren't even considered European 500 years ago
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>>215399437
Not in my modded Vicky 2 playthrough 8-)B-):,-)o:-)



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