Rwanda is a subsaharan country, although it is poor, it seems to be a clean and safe nation.Picrel is Kigali, Rwanda's capital city:
DIdn't they have a genocide there
>>215406468you fell for khamasss propaganda
>>215406468Never happened but it definitely should
Ituri province, and north and south kivu are rightful Rwandan clay
>>215406468they did in the 90s, since then the country has been improving rapidlyrwanda looks comfy in my opinion, and it cleaner than my country...
>>215406468No, it was a war against the terrorists!!There may have been some collateral damage but the terrorists had to be destroyed, ok?
>>215406800And now those terrorists are all hiding in the DRC, so Rwanda has to invade the congo to go after them!
>>215407223Huh! Just so weirdly convenient ...
>>215405977>successful black country/pol/tards cannot comprehend this
>>215406468It's more complicated.tl;dr niggers genocide niggas, but niggas call fellow niggas living in a neighboring country, those niggas come to the hood and BTFO the niggers, establishing total nigga rule for the next decades despite niggas being like 15% of the population
I have been fascinated by this country since 2020. The reason behind it all is Paul Kagame. He is a shrewd and extremely intelligent leader. Maybe too much so. The military experience he gained made him that way. The problem with Rwanda is its eternally cucked due to being landlocked. But Rwanda has an effective military and could puppet nearby nations to give them free shit. Paul Kagame will definitely go down in history as an interesting leader though. The sad truth is for a third world nation to succeed it must first undergo sufficient militarism. If you don't do things like conscription, etc, the village people remain retarded and you can't drill the idea of bureaucracy into them.
>>215407683He is based. He turned the whole country 180.My only criticism of his leadership is that a fair share of Rwanda's wealth comes from the minerals they pillage in the Congo. If this is a short term strategy for acquiring wealth, OK, but they should really be focusing on industrialization if they want their country to succed.Overall, Rwanda seems to be going in the right track, it's one of the very fee countries in Africa which gives you some hope for the future of the continent.
>>215407430it's not even the only one
>>215406468Yeah, but now they genocide people in the Congo in return
>>215407683Meh South Africa still miles ahead despite the decline
>>215407753I don't know how much industrialization really benefits them given that they are a land-locked country with low population (14 mil). I mean they should produce things locally for themselves but export is of no benefit to a land-locked country. Unless the plan is to sell cheap shit to the countries around them. I think his ultimate goal is to have enough generations of Rwandans live under order, institutions, peace, no tribal conflict so that they can finally be smart enough to do skilled work. basically they can do what India tried to do and have it actually succeed. A modern Shogunate?The problem is if he dies this whole plan goes to shit.
>>215407753Fags who think that "must industrialize" is a one size fits all solution to every country are so deluded
>>215407940>I don't know how much industrialization really benefits themIndustrialization is a no-brainer for every country that wishes to develop, having a solid industrial base not only secures jobs, but also serves to diversify your exports for example.Industrializing adds value to products you sell, it would be critical for them to industrialize, specially when their exports look like this:
>>215405977Rwanda shills are the weirdest motherfuckers on this board, no memeable characters or anything to speak of, like no one would be talking about it if they weren't Europe/the West's designated shitbull for problem people
>>215408014So which other strategy is better in your opinion?For comparison, this is how the exports of an industrialized economy looks like:Notice how the top products are all high value products (Cars, medicaments, computers) all of this is extremely positive to your economy.If you only export cheap unprocessed commodities you will never develop properly. Change my mind. I know you can't, because i'm right.
>>215406468Yeah, and?
>>215408351trvke. the commodity export based development model only fits huge resource rich countries with tiny populations and without parasitic money hoarding elites like australia, canada and norwaythe tourism based development model is a meme and only applies to tiny scenic places with even tinier populations which more often than not also happen to be tax havensthat anon is high on something
>>215405977They did this whole campaign about how based ans safe they were but they're getting push back now because they're empire building in the congo And then with a small amount of scrutiny it turns out they aren't the singapore of africa they're as undeveloped as any neigbour just with a more authoritarian government
>>215407808Sustained entirely off tourism from rich whites lol
>>215407430>successful
>>215405977Problem is it's full of niggers just like the rest of Africa. Rwandan women were tall and slim though
>>215408739>both nominal and PPP growing>HDI also growingYeah, it's successful
>>215408351>Germany and Rwanda are perfectly comparable countriesThe issue is that you think economics are as simple as>car be more expensive than wheat, therefore producing cars is betterYou don't consider a myriad of factors such as population density, rate of return on investment, geographic location, the fact that Rwanda is landlocked, neighboring countries, etc...And that's just the initial problem.You don't have any actual policy suggestion, just "industrialize" as if that wasn't completely vague to the point of uselessness.And also you seem to believe that the primary and secondary sectors of the economy are mutually exclusive, which isn't the case.The reality is that developed countries have developed primary, secondary and tertiary sectors all at the same time.It's very easy to just say that if Rwanda has the automobile industry of Germany, just magically appearing out of thin air and magically working just like it does in Germany, despite how completely different the two countries are, then Rwanda would be in a better position.However saying that is completely fucking useless yet "muh industrialize" fags don't ever seem to realize that, which is also why you'll never understand why the uncountable attempts to "industrialize" South America all failed to produce competitive results despite decades of governments trying to prop the secondary sector up."Industrialize" is a political slogan, it's not an actual policy of national economics.
Total argie death.
>>215406468How many genocides occurred in Europe?
>>215408728And?
>>215405977I've been there It IS poor but nonetheless high security, clean and functional. Hop across the border to Tanzania and you will see none of Rwanda's order and cleanliness
>>215408739I hate these meaningless meme numbers. Rwanda's HDI is supposed to be similar to Nigeria's yet Nigeria is a dirty shithole that can't figure out how to make a functional city. India's is "higher" and Indians can't stop praising "waaaoooo nice city saaaar very good civic sense saaaaaaar cleaner than Indian cities saaaaaar"
>>215410444You were there for work?
>>215405977I heard it's the most successful African country along with Botswana
>>215405977Fun fact about Rwanda: they have this community service tradition called "umuganda" where the entire neighborhood mobilizes to either clean the area or do another public works project one Saturday a month. Everyone between 18 and 65 is required to do it, or else you get fined. It's part of the reason why Rwandan neighborhoods are so clean today. However, in the genocide days, the same community organization system was used to mobilize Hutu genocidaires to clear the neighborhood of Tutsis
>>215410481Visited for work for a few days.
>>215408739Keep in mind rwanda surrounded by Burundi (world poorest country), Uganda, and the Congo and have little resources they're development is nerfed because of shithole neighbors I hope Rwanda wins the war against so they have real resources to industrialize the economy
>>215410540noice, did you stay in kigali? the city seems a little dull, there isn't much to do there
So has anyone of you visited or?
>>215410579Yes I was in Kigali. It's pretty green and there are a few conserved nature areas and some surprisingly good food (I had local, steak, and pizza). I do imagine it could get dull but the shopping areas were well maintained and there are next to no beggars or others who would bother a tourist. It's pretty chill to explore on your own on foot
Tutsi won
>>215410674Tutsi excellence is why the country is thriving today. However they are also very merciful victors, everything considered.
>>215410485Fuck Botswana. They live off mines, theyre full of aids and they ethnically cleansed the Khoisan
>>215405977I admire what their leader has accomplished in the PR department. Shame about the reality of it all.
>>215410701>NOOOO You can't just utilize the resourced you have to be successful! You have to sell them to foreigners!
>>215410701>you don't... uhhh... DESERVE the wealth derived from your country's natural resources o algo!!Weird Timmy cope that is also often leveled against Gulfchads, pure resentment
>>215410744>>215410747Name one thing Botswana produces with its own hands
>>215410681I wonder how much is real estate there...Maybe as it is a poor country it might be cheaper for expats?imagine living in a comfy neighborhood like picrel:
>>215410674Yeah, rwanda was a Congo tier shithole before Kagame, so thank god they won
>>215405977It's africa's switzerland/singaporeNote that switzerland isn't THAT much better off than other euro's, same with singapore and (east) asia. Hence, Rwanda still being a shithole by western standards, but nice by that of their neighbors. And like switzerland, singapore, and any other tiny, oddly successful state, it's methods are not practicably applicable to larger scale, genuine nations.At least they're fun to soyface at.
>>215410523yes there are more ways than one to clean up a country
>>215410817>genuine nations.It's more "genuine" than any number of African nations though. Rwandan people have lived in geographically contiguous and politically unified Rwanda long before whitey ever set foot there, more than can be said of nearly any other African country
>>215410768A functioning government and economy. More than most African countries have managed. More than Rwanda has.
