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Does anyone who actually learned these languages lived there for some years? Are they really soulless hellholes and better suited as tourist destinations?
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>>215516427
The only westerners living there that don't look miserable are female models getting paid to exist
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>>215516427
Japan has soul

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dB01T5KPePU
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I lived in Japan for about 7 years and my third language is Chinese, partially because my wife who I met around Hiroshima is Chinese, I also frequent South Korea and will return after going back to China for like the 9th time in a few months. China was bizarre, with their daily life and practices all feeling so alien to me but the people, it actually bordered in annoying and even infuriating how differently they behave because "Chinese normal" is very weird to us at times, they'll also follow someone for a short distance and stare if they're not east Asian because seeing a Non-Chinese perstis a true rarity; they take it further by picking up little children spontaneously to get a better look because it's not rude for them to do so. They very friendly otherwise hower, just super odd; and the weirdest of the three I've met. The Japanese are the most reserved and orderly. They're all polite but otherwise very fearful and overly quiet, not just to foreigners but to each other. They're personable and so orderly the cops are bored with nothing to do in Japan (The main groups committed crimes aren't actually Japanese, it's Chineses, and i think Koreans, then Americans , respectively), lastly they're surprisingly discriminatory to everyone, not mean and bothersome, they'll just not sit by you in the train if you're not Asian most of the time (unless you have a blond child, then they won't ship up about it) and they'll rarely exclude you from usually small establishments, otherwise it's the most tranquil and healthful place to live. SK is like a balance between the two former countries. Open and friendly people like china with the order, cleanliness, and politeness of Japan.
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>>215516517
No. Korea has seoul
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>>215516742
I wish Koreans were replaced by Americans
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>>215516517
I kept thinking why does this korean sing so well in japanese and why is the style sovlful and not just plastic kpop like you'd expect from SK
turns out it's a japanese artist called Aimyon, the name of the channel (YEORUEM) tricked me into thinking it's someone else
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>>215517026
The Japanese tried their hand at that decades ago, it never works out. I want the Korean Peninsula to be one whole country again and their birthrate to skyrocket
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>>215517258
the birth rate doesn't matter. ai revolution and robotics might help it
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>>215517273
I certainly hope so
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>>215516427
>lived there for some years
Almost 10 years now. It's plenty nice when you are fluent and can eat local food. For a STEM degree holder the pay is on the lower side, but people are nice and I don't have to work too much.
Funny fact: assimilated foreigners hate tourists way more than locals. Also Tokyo is a shit hole, get to the inaka for the best experience
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>>215517580
>assimilated foreigners hate tourists way more than locals.
As someone who lived there for so long, I can attest to that. I'd always point them out to my wife whenever we see a group of boisterous American service members about or one of the various jungle Asians crawling about when they're not busy sending money back to their families.
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I noticed that Koreans and Chinese have a much stronger "us" and "not us" mentality than Japanese. In the former relationship, they try to be very very close like their own family, but in the latter, they have little interest or consideration in each other. In Japan, even in the former relationship even their own relatives, it is much much rare for people to become as close as Koreans or Chinese.
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>>215516427
>German talking about soulless cultures
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>>215518540
>t.chang
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>>215518540
?
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>>215518507
You can get turned away from a bar if you don't look Japanese. If it's worse in Korea then is this type of thing more common there? I kinda doubt it
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>>215518828
mainly about how to people relationships within the same ethnic group.
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I've lived in all three and learned all three to varying levels, been around Japan and Korea but didn't have much time to explore China.

They are very image conscious and a bit shallow in that regard. They're not even self aware of this, and kinda of miserable and crazy. Japanese aren't kind or polite they're saving face, and kinda passive, many people don't understand this but many are talking shit about you and think you won't understand. Koreans do this too but they're a bit more aggressive. Chinese are more honest and I think more friendly but that's mostly to tourists, they also charge you more so you should know how to haggle or say no. The air quality suffers from chinese factories and cities in general, Japan has the best air of the three. Cost of living is affordable but housing in Korea is way too high, and transportation in Japan is high. Food is delicious in all of them, but your stomach will probably need time to adjust to China's standard of cleanliness and oil. Maybe this is avoidable at high quality dining, or foreign run restaurants for example I went to an Italian place and didn't feel sick. But even the home cooked food with my host family made me sick and I know they used fresh clean food. None of them will drink tap water, it's unclean to them, if they want water they boil it first or buy bottled. They usually drink tea with meals anyway (local Chinese places serve you super hot tea you will probably finish your food before even being able to drink it, they do this to prove it's safe to drink)

Yeah so it's soulless because modern society is shallow and image conscious but it has soul if you look in the right place off the well traveled paths. I wouldn't recommend living in them because always standing out from everyone is tiring, a lot of people stare at you because you have different colored hair and eyes, your body has different shape, it's curiosity and envy sometimes. No one treats you badly if you're white.
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how people build*
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Also it's very real in China to get jobs just because you are white and don't really do anything they just want to look international. If you had to pick one China is probably the easiest for friendlyness, Japan is best for clean introverted people, Korea easiest language to read and write imo. I'd trust Chinese more in dating that they aren't using you, but you have to trust your instincts.
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>>215518998
I would worry about a Chinese woman marrying you only for money. I think that is very common in China and it is not seen as a bad or weird thing to do. A foreigner who makes over 20k rmb would be considered very good to marry so be careful.
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>>215516427
>soulles hellholes
mental illness baka gaijins want to think so.
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China would have so much sovl if the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom usurped the Qing dynasty and all Han Chinese became Christian
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>>215519060
Yeah but they would do that in Korea and Japan too. Chinese are nore forward about saying this is their intention, women have such high standards in China and a gender imbalance that Chinese men look for foreign wives.
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>>215516427
Mandarin is (in my opinion) the best of these three languages. Mainland China is okay. The older generations are very selfish and shitty people - but I think it is breadline mentality from the Mao years. Taiwan is pretty cool - probably the best reason to learn Mandarin. Did a year in China as an exchange student - lived in Taiwan for 3 years before COVID.
Japanese is alright. I went in the early 2010s, and it was comfy. From what I have seen online now it looks very shit. I would also note, when I went I was very much in my Japan so cool phase with little knowledge of the real world like what its like to have a job - so everythign was seen through rose tinted glasses. I think their work culture is shit which put me off living there.
Korea I have never had an interest in. Just don't care about it. I think it seems the most soulless hellhole out of the three. I am quite autistically interested in the DPRK however, so I would like to go to the South just to see the war museums and such near the DMZ.

Vietnam is a cool nation. Language is quite cool, the country is very cheap and can be a bit shit in places, but Hanoi is beautiful. Would recommend.
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Pigs be like: I got my doctorate on East Asian studies through 4chan and youtube with the help of 3 months touring.
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>>215519922
謝謝酷這樣推廣台灣
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>>215516427
genuine question, why would they be soulless hellholes?
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>>215516427
I only know about China. I've lived there for a while and I speak the language, albeit rather poorly.
I think it can be a good place to live for a couple of years. I don't see the point in staying too long. You will likely not make any good friends there, and you will be dependent on the locals for a bunch of stuff because of how much their system is cutoff from the rest of the world.
I would not recommend it as a tourist if you don't speak the language.
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>>215520093
More like I lived there for 10 years
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>>215520714
So?
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>>215520714
Impressive. Are you ever going back to stay there, or any of the other two countries?
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>>215520714
Jap flag is an angry weeb with his inhaler in hand. Don't interact with him lol.
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>>215516742
I don't understand how not sitting next to someone on the train is discriminatory.
Japanese people dislike risk, so they try to act in ways that prevent trouble from occurring.
Please understand the mindset of not causing trouble for others.
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>>215523657
>Japanese people
You will never be Japanese.
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>>215523851
俺は日本人なんだけどw
>>215523657はDeepLで英語に翻訳しただけ
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>>215523851
please stop causing trouble for japanese people
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>>215516427

>Anyone who actually learned these languages
I learned Japanese, and very basic Chinese.

>Lived there for some years?
Four years already in Japan.

>Are they really soulless hellholes and better suited as tourist destinations?
That depends on you. Moving here won't fix your life. After living here for some years, you understand that it's just another country. But in my case, I prefer to stay here instead of going back to my country.

By the way, I visited China for six days, and I don't plan to visit it ever again. People are extremely rude there.
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>>215516427
Ranton learned Kung Fu in Shaolin Temple.

Anyways, if you are there or any other countries as a (language) student, things are great. Especially if you have money.

Moving there, even if a job secured, comes with a lot of BS. But that’s the same in Europe.
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>>215523977
>俺は日本人なんだけど
Greasy American hands wrote this.
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>>215523657
I suppose I included seemingly trivial among a statement that holds higher severity, but there is indeed more to elaborate upon that I'm fine saying but don't care to type ('cause I'm simply lazy). Don't worry, you're right, cautions not necessarily discriminatory, just how it may appear sometime.

>Please understand the mindset of not causing trouble for others
I again appreciate your insight but don't insult mine or anyone else's intelligence here with your oddly simple conclusion. I'm sure we all here have a mature grasp of "not causing trouble for others"
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>>215525137
Thank you for explaining it so carefully.
I'm glad my thoughts seem to have gotten across for now.
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>>215516742
Every time I observe a Westerner proudly expounding this kind of utterly boilerplate criticism, I question the purpose of their years of residence in Asia. The unilateral perspective they express is precisely the same as that of the early missionaries upon their arrival. It is interesting that Westerners of a very average intellectual level appear to possess an classical worldview, behaving as though the intellectual endeavors of the latter half of the 20th century had simply passed them by.
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I picture every westerner living there as this redditor: childish adults who either
1)- like asian cartoons for autistic children aka anime and feel like they are doing pilgrimage or some shit
2)- are so brainwashed by asian propaganda that they love "asian cuisine" [ramyon filled to the brim with microplastics]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/t95BUztoGHk
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This is purely based on my own observation, but I suspect that among white or North American/European people, the ability to temporarily set aside their ingrained cultural framework and experience another culture with a childlike gaze belongs more to the less educated strata or those from culturally peripheral regions. This is certainly a compliment, but people like high school graduated military personnel or Australians often fit this description well. Conversely, those staying here for specialized studies at graduate level seem to consider it shameful to naively project that kind of Western gaze, but there are many instances that make me suspect they are either consciously suppressing it or simply hiding it.
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>>215525612
It's funny to me that you take that post as criticism.
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>>215525137
Mate, soldiers from your Navy rape and kill Japanese women and children in Okinawa every year and are barely even punished, Japanese should be scrutinising you people not the other way around.
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>>215527562
You can blame my poor English ability, but according to dictionaries, is some context, the word 'criticism' is allowed to be used that is synonymous with, lets say 'evaluation' or 'commentary', so please take the word that way.
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>>215527751
American BTFO'd
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>>215516742
>Chinese, and i think Koreans, then Americans , respectively

iirc from reading the stats, american foreigners have the same crime rate as japanese natives and koreans have about half the rate. chinese is true though
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>>215528234
in Japan, excluding crimes such as illegal residency, the arrest rate for crimes committed by foreign nationals, relative to the rate for japanese citizens is approximately, x2.8 for zainichi koreans, x1.8 for zainichi chinese, x1.4 for zainichi americans.
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>>215528692
Do you have a source for that?
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>>215528692
statistics on crime rates broken down by nationality are nearly impossible to get via google or ai because the national police agency is extremely hesitant to publish them. i've seen the american flag giving incorrect information several times, and his data is almost certainly wrong as well. it is technically possible to obtain the data by submitting a formal request to the npa, but in reality, only a few journalists who specialize in foreign crime actually do this. consequently, this information is virtually unknown even within japan. the figures i provided above are based on that police released data obtained through one of such journalist.
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>>215516427
Lived in Korea a few years and learnt Korean to a high level (TOPIK 6). I regret it because immigration is stupidly hard, I didn't get married to my now ex so there was no hope of me staying there. I'm not interested in their media so my language skills are just getting rusty.
I wish I'd learnt either Mandarin because of job opportunities or Japanese because of media. Not even talking about otaku shit, their music and books just look more soulful to me.
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>>215528767
here. this is the exact copy of data released by the npa.
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>>215516427
There is any guide about how to learn chinese though :3
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>>215529216
lol, I found this from the same data and it says Japanese commit more crimes than foreigners
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>>215529216
it should be noted that these figures represent the 'arrest rate' and not the 'crime rate' itself. i dont know the extent to which the ratio of arrests to actual crimes differs by nationality, though it's generally acknowledged that crimes committed by foreign nationals are harder for police to clear. due to historical circumstances, public media considers it taboo to speak negatively about zainichi koreans. this leads the japanese public to mistakenly believe their crime rate is low, when in fact their arrest rate remains at a high level. conversely, chinese residents often receive a bad reputation due to their large total population and general criticism of their 'poor manners', but their apprehension rate is not particularly high. the same applies to vietnamese as well.
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>>215529604
do you know the difference between 'rainichi' and 'zaiichi'? if my memory serves me correctly, only arrest number by 'rainichi' is published in the white paper. if you look at the rainichi column in my data table, youll see figures that align closely with your charts apprehension numbers for foreign nationals. furthermore, most rainichis are short term tourists who are rarely involved in crime, which creates a significant divergence from the true arrest rate (crime rate) among actual foreign residents.
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>>215523977
どうして敬語なしですか?!呆れます!
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>>215529604
>>215530172
my apology, i made a mistake on one point: the white paper actually lists the apprehension number for both 'zainichi' and 'rainichi'. that being said, the problems with the chart you presented are as follows:

- your chart only counts 'penal code offenses', and does not include 'crimes under special laws' (such as drug related crimes). if you add the number of penal code offenses and crimes under special laws found in the white paper, the total slightly exceeds the figures in my table. (the difference is likely due to crimes like illegal residency.)

- the denominator for the foreign national population includes the huge number of tourists who are rarely involved in crime.

- the apprehension rate for the crimes (penal code offenses + other crimes - illegal residency) committed by japanese nationals and by foreign nationals actually residing in japan is as shown in my table.

here is the link for white paper if you want to examine yourdelf.
https://www.moj.go.jp/content/001432736.pdf
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>>215531357
one point to add:

- even if i compare only penal code offenses (excluding crimes like drug offenses), the ratio of the arrest rate between foreign nationals actually residing in japan and japanese nationals is still about x1.9.
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>>215516517
Jesus that's such a basic as hell boring as fuck musical performance. I determined that you have to have negative testosterone levels and low IQ to enjoy such utter NPC slop.
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>>215530172
>>215531357
I don't care. Cope and seethe.
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>>215528692
This is the truth stats. If you remove visa related crime here is real result. The data here >>215529216 is not remove visa crime.

Chinese people are most bad criminal in Japan all.
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>>215529604
The Koreans are fine. I suspect these other posters with the same flag are ethnic Chinese. With the increase in the number of Chinese nationals who are moving fulltime to Japan we will see even more of them shitposting under the Japan flag. This will be a nightmare unless we find a solution for this.
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>>215534344
Japan seems really cool I appreciate your culture
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>>215520093
lol based post
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>>215516427
I am learning Chinese atm and I plan on teaching English there for a few years.

>>215525612
The purpose of the missionaries was proselytism. The purpose of (anglosphere) foreigners living in Asia today is just for personal interest and easy work opportunities. If you create a job opportunity for people to do hardly any work, it's like providing a crevice for a pest to live in. It's like Jerry's mouse-hole.
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>>215518828
as of yet I have actually never felt uncomfortable around or discriminated against by koreans for being white/american.

i read that koreans have the lowest rate of school bullying of any country in the world. this has generally been my experience, they're rarely aggressive or mean for no reason
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>>215517152
kys shitskin third worlder
the jap singer aimyon is a massive koreaboo herself
and jpop is sucks

>>215516517
aimyon is nothing but an ugly koreaboo jap
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>>215518930
You can not compare China to South Korea or Japan. China is still a poor developing country compare to South Korea or Japan. It's like comparing Sweden or Finland to Estonia.
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which nation is at the top of this hierarchy?
japan > korea > china
yeah?
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>>215519922
you think chinese and vietnamese ugly ching chong languages are cool because you are chinese yourself
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>>215519103
Then they would just become 56%ers or some shit
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>>215516427
I lived in south Korea for 3 years in my early-20s. Ask me almost anything. Pic is OC (try to guess where).

And no, they aren't 'soulless,' they're just an actual country, with actual people...who have actual goals, dreams, and aspirations in life. None of those things are putting on a show for foreigners.
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>>215519922
>Ching Ping Bao Ding Ling
>Duc Duc Quac Quac Bing Dong
>Cool languages
No wonder, Nobody likes the UK in Europe. And Everyone talks shit about Brits in Europe.
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>>215538315
Go back
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>>215538347
Not a day goes by where I don't dream of doing so, but they won't hire me for anything--not even English teaching.
>also I'm American
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>>215538371
rip, I feel your pain
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>>215538467
No, Anon. I don't think you do.
>Happy Chuseok anyway
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>>215538315
Jeju Island is really different from the Mainland South Korea. It's like you're talking Florida as the common place in the US. Jeju people don't like us Mainland South Koreans for some reason. They are much relaxed compared to us.
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>>215538490
whats culture from from jeju like? should I go there? I'm going to korea soon probably
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>>215538236
Korea > Japan > ... > SEA > China
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>>215538490
I had a Korean friend in university who was from Jeolla, and she said something about that, too. I shared a meme with her comparing STANDARD KOREAN with Jeju-Korean, with the former being on the top bunk and calling his brother (Jeju) the "ugliest monster he had ever seen" on the bottom bunk. She liked it. I liked her. She's gone now. I miss her.
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>>215538490
>Jeju people don't like us Mainland South Koreans for some reason
Didn't Rhee kill a good percentage of the island's population shortly before the war because he suspected them of being commies, then come back for seconds once the war started?
Used to know a Jeju islander, you're right he was really laid back.
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>>215538545
Jeju Islanders believe they are one large family. They have their own gods and myths that don't exist in mainland South Korea. This is because Jeju Island was originally an independent nation before being annexed by the Korean Kingdom. Jeju Islanders are fiercely exclusive toward non-Jeju natives, and they especially despise Chinese immigrants so much. Of course, Jeju Island is truly beautiful. Every South Korean dreams of retiring and living there. However, the cost of living on Jeju Island is quite high.

>>215538555
Many immigrants from Jeju Island lived in Jeolla Province. The Jeju language is closer to a foreign language than Korean. We cannot understand what Jeju islanders are saying. Incidentally, Jeju Island is a matrilineal society, meaning the mother's side holds greater influence. For various reasons, Jeju people differ from mainland us mainland South Koreans.
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>don't sit next to gaijin on a train.
Because, we can't stand the armpit odor of whites, blacks and browns.
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>>215538799
Well, one thing's for sure: the best oranges come from Jeju (objective fact).
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>>215538810
You guys smell like miso and fermented used underwear.
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>>215538706
There may be a reason for this. Since ancient times, people in Seoul have regarded Jeju Island as a place of exile and have not placed much importance on it. Jeju Islanders were often subjected to taxes from Seoul that bordered on exploitation.
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the kpop group I like are always talking about taking a trip together to jeju island like its some mystical place on par with the elysian fields
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>>215538706
my senior in the military was from jeju island
he was a senior who never once swore at me or scolded me
he never complained, even when things got difficult
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>>215521417
I would love another visit in Japan and China, maybe a few weeks to take it in, unfortunately I'm tired of Korea. I'd never live in any of them again, I feel I have moved on in life.
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>>215539795
Not me. I'm still obsessed with Korea.

China gets boring as its too stale so the culture is hard to get into. Japan was good but it too got boring as its too 'soft'. Korea is the perfect blend of sweet and spicy East Asian flavor.
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>>215532651
how come?
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>>215539962
>China gets boring as its too stale so the culture is hard to get into. Japan was good but it too got boring as its too 'soft'. Korea is the perfect blend of sweet and spicy East Asian flavor.
None of this makes any sense
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>>215539985
>why don't people from other cultures see my culture the way I see it?
bruh, really? I get what he means too.
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>>215540028
I do not mean that I disagree. I mean that the word literally do not make sense. what does "sweet and spicy East Asian flavor" mean? Why does Korea have that but not Japan or China? What does Japan being good but then being soft mean?
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>>215532797
>>215534344
im authentic japanese. i was quite surprised myself when i learned that the crime rate among chinese isnt as high as is generally believed. ive seen that image being posted by the american flag before, but its is totally untrustworthy information entirely lacking primary sources, furthermore, if one were to use the flawed statistical method of including the vast number of tourists who contribute almost nothing to the crime rate in the denominator, the crime rate for chinese would still be much lower than that of japanese nationals. this fact alone proves that the numbers are being calculated in an arbitrary way for each nationality.
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My korean gf dragged me to Korea to visit her family and do LASIK. I don't regret the experience, but I fucking hated being there so much bros.

>cold af
>congested
>there's nothing to do but buy beauty products and eat korean food

I was in Gangnam too, not some rural shithole. The whole country feels like a place built for female tourism (mostly shopping). I'm going to need to go there a few more times in my life and I don't know how to cope with it.
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>>215538799
Do you they look appearance wise similar to South Koreans?
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>>215538055
Are Korean women prettier or Japanese?
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>>215539795
>>215539962
you have one of the most beautiful women on earth and despite that you go for asian women?
why you do this?
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>>215540249
>chang posting
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>>215516427
Been to s. Korea. Young adults are rude. There is no sympathy in them. I can only communicate with the old ones because the old gen speaks english
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>>215516427
The average Jap has x10 more soul than your average Hanz or François
After living here for many years I'd rather kill myself than stay in any part of Germany or Britain or whatever for more than a few weeks.
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>>215540643
I did not like the young korean dudes at all. They're like giant man children. I can't take them seriously as "adults" and it really sours any interaction I have with them. Can't help but judge.
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>>215539985
Too much RED and GOLD everything. Peppercorn in every dish. People always asking my height. What business I do. Smell of chemicals in the air in nearly every city. Outside of the main city center it gets old and 3rd world super fast, even in Shanghai and Beijing. So many cities is a free for all traffic wise, just as bad as vietnam. Shenzen is probably the nicest city as its also the newest. Can't buy anything without being haggled for more. Can't buy anything without knowing if its fake or poison. Even clean areas have dirty restaurants. Like a film coats everything. Imagine how bad it is that high end restaurants have to bring out vacuum sealed plates and bowls because it gets dirty otherwise. I had food phobia there. People are nice tho and talkative. Very different to the typical quiet and reserved and standoffish japanese.
>>215540249
okay Mr. Wu.
>>215540323
Sounds like a YOU problem. I had a total blast. Maybe you're too much of a neet and don't know how to be social. I went a few times now even solo and it doesn't disappoint. The people aren't like in Japan. They are friendly and if you find some that are good with English you can hang out with them or they give you good tips on what to do.
>>215540365
Yes! Its why I went originally to get laid but its hard to get 10/10 Korean girls as their judeo christian and/or buddhist up bringing makes them pretty reserved. You have to have really great style too if you want to stand out as many nicer places where younger hip crowd hangs out tend to dress really well. I can see why looksism is high there as people strive to be looksmaxxed.
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I lived in 2 Asian countries (Japan and Vietnam) and I confirm: these places are extremely soulless. In Japan it's kind of in your face so you can't miss it, but in Vietnam there is so much dumb commotion, noise and chaos that you may fail to notice how dead inside it all is.
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>>215540591
no
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>>215540711
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>>215540711
>Sounds like a YOU problem. I had a total blast. Maybe you're too much of a neet and don't know how to be social. I went a few times now even solo and it doesn't disappoint. The people aren't like in Japan. They are friendly and if you find some that are good with English you can hang out with them or they give you good tips on what to do.

They don't want to do anything but eat asian food and drink soju while having the lamest conversation ever (borderline incel shit). It's not fun. Maybe I just outgrew bro culture.
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>>215540814
sounds like you are shilling. you have to be an absolute retard if you can't find shit to do there. like total autist turbo mentally handicapped and need braces to stand up straight tier retarded.
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>>215540869
That dude is shilling hard. Korea is fucking fun as fuck. He's probably some old boomer ass reject as those are the only types who can't find anything to do in the middle of NYC.

Seoul is the #1 rated city by Millennials and Zoomers for 4 straight years now for a reason.
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>>215540869
When I go on vacation, I like to go somewhere sunny, hot, preferably beachy, and drive around in a red mustang with the top down. That is paradise. Eating jang jang myeong in some dingy underground bar is not fun at all. That is not a vacation.

Just give me a bucket list. Because the only thing I really found fun was exploring one of the old castles outside of Seoul. I remember playing baduk in some tea room there as well and it was nice learning a little history and living it at the same time.

>>215540914
Gyopo please, normal americans do not care about ASIA. It's just weeaboos flooding the polls.
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>>215539962
Because the Dutchies are similar with us South Koreans. We are straightforward and direct but We are still civilized unlike the Chinese animals. Chinese are just unrefined, unpleasant and uncultured peasants.
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>>215540989
You are the Japanese Diaspora in the US. Why do you have Korea so much to this day? Do you know many young people my age in Japan really like Korea now? Its time you old people die along with your old beliefs.
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>>215540989
>Gyopo please
How fucking typical. Can't even post about Korea without this turbo japanese diaspora thinking everyone who isn't hating on Korea is some distant Korean. This is how I know you're some salty Japanese boomer who's full of shit.
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>>215541104
HATE*
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>>215541128
Nope I'm white. I got this hwatu plushie while out there.

I don't hate korea btw. I just hate vacationing in Korea
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>>215540666
Pretending like any place in the retirement home known as Japan aside from Tokyo and maybe Osaka is worth living in. Tourism makes up 8% (and rising) of your GDP and it's the only industry that isn't in decline. Better be nice and cosplay as Samurai, jap boy, or it could crash your economy.
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>>215540643
the problem is you're from vietnam a poor brown third world country
no one respect vietnamese
here you are seen as mail order brides and shitty factory workers or farm slaves
but i heard other first world city-states in east asia like hongkong and singapore or uae treat vietnamese and southeast asisns below human beings
also i heard vietnamese are heavily hated in japan due to their high crime rates
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>>215541151
Translation: I was a LBH engrish teacher
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>>215541111
I'm not trolling you, see >>215541151

We live in a world where people have preferences and my preference is to be in Hawaii (and not Korea). Have you ever been there? It's probably the closest you'll get to heaven on earth.
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>>215541170
Germany today is becoming 3rd world. Economy is dying. Cars have to be made by Polish people now because poles are more smarter then German who only care about sausage boyfest.

how did germany become so idiot country?
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>>215541179
The only Asian tourists who enjoy privileges and avoid being hated in Asian countries are South Koreans and Japanese. For example, Singaporeans and Hong Kongers, due to their British colonial history, believe themselves to be half-white and possess a sense of superiority. While they are hostile to all Asians, they don't treat Asian tourists from South Korea or Japan badly. In fact, they seek to befriend them.
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>>215541201
I don't know how to tell you this but I'm not really a big Asian nerd. My wife makes me learn Korean these days and it's a struggle.
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>>215541291
Just stop. You're only making it more obvious and cringe. Have some self respect and learn when to let things go. You have little child syndrome.
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>>215541229
You mean the world's 3rd biggest economy. Something you used to be after we surpassed you.
>how did germany become so idiot country?
Because we forcefully tried to become a manufacturing country again instead of transitioning to a service and consumption economy. The exact same mistake Japan is currently trying to repeat.
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>>215541201
He could be ex-military too ya know. Regardless he reeks of a bitter tortured soul.
>>215541229
More like they are outsourcing needless components to other countries. Just like we move things to Mexico.

Now Germany is going to move their Asian production to Japan now that your yen is so weak and your economy so poor you've become equivalent of a 3rd world labor force.

Well done!
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>>215541179
>high crime rates
crime rate among vietnamese is not as high as the stereotype suggests. in fact, percentage wise, its actually somewhat lower than yours. the recent spread of bias against vietnamese is because the media sensationalizes their strange customs (such as dirtying rental properties or dismembering animals in the bathroom).

check this out.
https://www.npa.go.jp/toukei/soubunkan/R05/pdf/R05_26.pdf
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>>215541170
contribution of foreign tourists to gdp is about 2%. this is lower than most other developed european nations and probably about the same as your country. furthermore, this is still small compared to the 20% contribution from the manufacturing sector. its true that japans aging rate is higher than yours tho.

https://www.mlit.go.jp/statistics/content/001890796.pdf
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>>215538371
Are you a felon or an unimaginable retard in life or something?
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>>215541170
This is our real growth industry.
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>>215541608
jaysus, how many women work in that industry?
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>>215541691
just ask his sister
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>>215541525
Regarding the tourism sector, I might've been wrong but the safest number I see is ~5% it's definitely increasing but it depends who calculates.
Japan is still a manufacturing country, but it's a declining trend, same with Germany. Let's just say I don't think trying to regain the past will lead to a prosperous future.
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>>215541608
Ngl, Japan has the potential to become Thailand on steroids especially thanks to anime.
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>>215541898
Japanese girls won't fuck waitu piggus
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>>215541914
wrong!
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>>215541914
OMG it's Real China! When are you going to retake the mainland?

>>215541933
I wonder how many pounds of make up are on her face.
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>>215541933
zainichi korean
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>>215541914
Yeah, but mainly because Japanese men hate seeing crackers at Japanese brothels. Will probably become a late-hour thing.
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>>215523657
>discriminatory
discriminatory isnt necessarily a bad thing, its simply descriptive.
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>>215541847
the 5%-ish figure you saw probably includes tourism consumption by japanese nationals. many english sources likely confuse this with the tourism consumption by foreign visitors (which is counted as an export in statistics). it might be surprising, but a large part of domestic tourism consumption in japan is still supported by the japanese nationals. i suspect that the figure, even when including consumption by our own citizens, is about the same as your countrys. while its true that manufacturing tends to relocate to countries with lower incomes, manufacturing is a sector that has a fair income distribution function among various industries, and its quite prominent that we need to continue to invest in it.
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>>215541268
lmao
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>>215516742
they're unapologetically xenophobic
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Some uppity Korean chud itt when in reality SK is a shithole.
Superficial everything
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>>215544465
Shithole in comparison to what? SK is a fine country.
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>>215525612
>question purpose of residence in Asia
Do you really? Is this a rhetoric question you ask yourself? This is a really narrow line of interrogation, ask them if they have a valuable skillset if no (which is generally the case) then immediately assume it's media or tourism. If they say 'cultural issues' ask them what they think the word 'culture' means or to what extent it's widespread, you'll receive a nebulous answer, then realize the main draw to Asia is how insanely urbanized it is.



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