Are they considered white in your country? Here in the US they are considered hispanic/latino, not white
They are white
>>215552700they're not
>>215552675Most of my family are Basques who settled in California, Californios or Neomexicanos. Unironically a bunch of my family are gingers/blonde but some of us are mestizo after mixing with natives. All sides are considered Hispanic by most Americans but most Americans are dumb when it comes to that stuff.
We do not have the category of "white" imc.
>>215552675they are considered spanish, europeanonly non-white countries think of terms white/non-white
>Most of my family are Basques who settled in California, Californios or Neomexicanos. Unironically a bunch of my family are gingers/blonde but some of us are mestizo after mixing with natives. All sides are considered Hispanic by most Americans but most Americans are dumb when it comes to that stuff.
>>215552953>only non-white countries think of terms white/non-whiteThanks for proving your own point, non-white.
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>>215552964Shoo shoo poo
Spaniards are not Latinos. Latino means from Latin-America and Spain is in Europe.
>>215552675Spain hereNo, we are no white
I’m in Spain right now lol What’s good around here
>>215552675>Are they considered white in your country? They are considered European >Here in the USIrrelevant
>>215552675it's pretty clear cut, south = non-white, the rest is white
>>215554527South Spainish people have the most native Iberian dna and east has the most North African dna
>>215554527Panchitada histórica. >>215555075The ones with the most native Iron Age Iberian ancestry are the Basques and North African ancestry in the Iberian Peninsula peaks in the west, not the east.
>>215552964Basques were a pretty big chunk of the old California population. They brought most of the old world livestock trade and did alot of fishing and mixed with the natives who were big fishers. Inland California had a lot of Spaniards from Norf Spain, primarily Galicia. They mixed with natives to solidify trade bonds and get land grants under good faith because the faggot merchants from Seville got a lot of heat from the crown for abusing the natives and not paying taxes to Madrid. New Mexico got a lot of hicks from Extremadura and Castille who fucked natives for mining rights. California was unique in that the Hispanicized Indios were often monied and educated due to having multi generational ties to the church so a lot were literate and California didn't really participate in the caste system and basically just had a class system based on your ties to the church and how much money you made. They also were the first North Americans that were mixed with Chinese and Indians (as in India, not natives). Genuinely an objective mutt libertarian society.
>>215553018Be quiet, monkey
>>215555488you are mexican lmao
no they're negroes like the irish
>>215555554Not really. My family were already in California before Mexico existed. Went straight from Basque/Catalan and Injun languages to English. Mexico adjacent and similarly genetically for sure, but don't like modern Mexicans. Didn't like Mexican-American war Mexicans either.
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>>215553092Latino means anything from Moldovan to Chilean, you dumb Celtiberian-Moor.
>>215555381Cope harder
>>215555633t. James McAllister, Belfast
>>215556262The joke is that they're all ANF/Bell Beaker-heavy Celts just like the Irish (cf >>215555633).>>215555649>My family were already in California before Mexico existedMexico is the successsor state to New Spain just like India is the succesor state to the British Raj. Your ass would be Mexican IF ONLY THOSE BLOODY BHENCHODS HAD NOT SECEEDED.
>>215556488Dare to call them nonwhite.
>>215552903Lol, you're basically pic relatedYou think you're the only latrinx with a surname of basque origin?
Spaniards are just as white as Turks or Greeks.
>>215556614Nigerian albinos. Serbians are unironically whiter than them.
Depends whoIn average noIn median yes
>>215556964
>>215553745Cheap prostitutes
>>215552675Generally yes, they are seen as white but also as lazy
>>215556413Jeet.
>>215556614the fact that the first one is called Borja automatically exclude him from the average, in that case I can also make a collage with white 10 dominis and claim we white and shite
>>215552675i dated a spanish girl, she was white
>>215558099what her pussy smelled like?
>>215552675Wrong, they are white and you are brown because you only have a small portion of their blood left after you thought you could govern yourselves without them (lololol).
>>215557158El neo-canario promedio
>>215556366No, you have no relation to the ancient Latins, they eradicated societies like the Aztecs.
>>215558254chorizo
>>215558254Like all pussies m8, tuna, smegma, salty coins and sweat
>>215558035Borja is originally a Spanish surname, from València, you fucking Dominegro. Did you think Pope Alexander VI was actually Italian? Cesare Borgia and the rest of the Borgias were all Southern Spanish diasporafags in Renaissance-era Shitaly.PS The "j" in "Borja" is actually correctly pronounced just like the "j" in "jazz" or "ejaculation", if using the Valencian pronunciation, rather than the Castillian one.
>>215558339Latino is not the same as Latin. The Latins were the people who founded the Kingdom of Alba Longa and whom the original Romans were descended from, alongside the Sabines. Latinos are literally every single group of people that speak any Romance language, which means anything from Portuguese-speaking people from Mozambique or French-speaking Cameroonians to Walloon-speaking Belgians and Lebanese diasporafags in Montreal.
Itt chikaner melty
>>215552675>Here in the USno one cares, we all know you're fucked in the headSpain is fren.
>>215552675they are more white than britain nowadays
>>215558857Thanks for your opinion, Mohammed, but we only need Western countries' insight on this.
>>215558636Revisionist history. Show me an example of a French, Italian or Spaniard calling themselves Latino.
>>215558972*looks at flag*first, you're shit peoplesecond, i'm defending spaniards, the people that made mexico a thingthird, i'm whiter than youand you wonder why americans want the wall, you little shit
>>215558865Nah, they got a bunch of Dominegros and Hondurans keeping the whiteness rate down. I think Stepney (London) might actually be whiter than Lavapiés (Madrid) simply because Bengalis and Pakistanis got more Caucasian blood in them than Hondurans do.
>>215559015https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latins#Latin_peoples_and_regionsVoilà ici
>>215559035>i'm whiter than youOk, post your eyebrows, Abdoul. Also, Mexico was colonized by Christianized Celtiberian-Moor mutts.
>>215559191>Christianized Celtiberian-Moor muttsas i said, spaniards
>>215559145You can’t find an example because they would rather die than be equated with MS-13 reggaeton people.
>>215559263>many self-identified with the term, such as Petrarch, when he states "Sumus enim non greci, non barbari, sed itali et latini." ("We are not Greeks or barbarians; we are Italians and Latins.").Ever heard of a country called "Romania"? It used to be the principalities of Moldavia and Wallachia, but then it merged and changed its name for the sake of associating itself with Latin Europe, which was already a term with strong currency. Also, the man who coined the term "Latin America" (Amérique latine) was a French economist named Michel Chevalier, and its usage was heavily promoted by none other than Emperor Napoleon III, nephew of the famous Corsican conqueror, who used it to justify the necessary relationship between France and Latin America that guaranteed France's military presence in Mexico.
>>215559227>no eyebrows picOk Félix Ngwiwele
>>215560182Find me an every day French, Spanish or Italian person. Because in your country and every other country down there, average every day people use the term to describe themselves. I’m not interested in what some famous globalist has to say.
>>215552700Eh, they are spanish. Italians are italians.Nordics are nordics, germans are germans.It's easier this way. We are all different in various ways, but pretty similar as well.A spanish and a norwegian for example, not very similar personality at all. Can get along well of course, but it is weird to just call us both white when we are so different.
>>215560533I confused the mexico flag for the italian one.Embarassing. It still stands.
>>215556262>>215556614Are they seen as albinos in ES-pain?
>>215552675Nafris don't consider them true white, that's all you need to know
>>215552903Spanish Basque or French Basque?
>>215560838Nafri opinions are very valued in France apparently
>>215560838What about actual French people?
>>215561754the whitest frenchmen
>>215561754Goes to show how swedish-like the french are. French must be nordics.
>>215552675>>215552737>Here in the US they are considered hispanic/latino, not whiteWhy are you lying? It's not the late 19th century anymore. If a Spaniard is ethnically Spaniard then he is a European and therefor white.Anyways the average Spaniard is whiter than the average American
>>215552675The average Spaniard is more likely to pass for local in my city than for gringo, that's all I'm gonna say.
>>215552675White doesn't mean the same thing in the USA as it does here. Over there a light middle easterner would be white, but here it literally just means you descend from European colonists like the Portuguese in Angola.
>>215556488>Mexico is the successsor state to New SpainEl retrasado
>>215552675they are considered spaniards. there's no such thing as race here. our demographic census does not even mention anything in relation to that
>>215562399You are retarded
>>215563883That means we're the successsor in terms of being this massive multicultural state full of political corruption and lawlessness in which indigenous cultures still hold third-class status in comparison to European-derived cultures. Crackaz r evil.
>>215552903>Americans are dumb when it comes to that stuffNot really. Spain is catholic, that's why they get lumped together with Irish and Italians in the non-white category. It was assumed at the time that these categories were made that the emerging white/western european culture as a whole was capable of governing itself without a monarchy or the interference of the church. France gets included largely because they cast off the Catholic yoke and burned many of the churches after the French Revolution, while England, Germany and most of Scandinavia are some variant of Protestant or Anglican. It doesn't help that Spain has been brownified, first by the Arabs invading from North Africa and then by mixing with the natives in the areas where their diaspora settled later.All sides are considered hispanic because no part of Spain is part of the original white european settlers, they were a separate set of Spanish settlers in direct opposition to the Americans who settled here. We fought a brief war over the Florida territory, and then another with Mexico later resulting in the Treaty of Guadaloupe Hidalgo. Do you usually include your geopolitical enemies as part of yourself? Would you consider the Moors to be Spanish just because some of their descendants exist inside of Spain?Americans have it right, you're just not listening to what they have to say on the subject because you consider yourself American when you're a subhuman brownoid and it pisses you off that we don't think of you at all, much less consider you equals. Simple as.
>>215552675White but spanish white. The real white men according to people are the angrez (british) and the swedish.
>>215564426>the angrez
>>215564534They are surely the most beautiful and dignified Whites among the Europeans, no? They owned the whole world at one point.
Nafri admixture correlates near-perfectly with Spanish and Portuguese HDI. It's uncanny.
>>215564864I am making fun of your ridiculous word for anglos. It's an indian word, not english.
>>215564864I forgot to make fun of the idea that they are both dignified and ruled the world.I have nothing against brits, but they are not particularly special. I see them as european equals.
>>215565044You'd be surprised what we call the french. The firangi (فرنگی), which sounds even gayer in Urdu than it does in English.
>>215558411I think he asked what was it like...BEFORE
>>215565087>ruled the world.This one is objective, the sun never did set on the anglos.Say..did the danish ever conquer anyone?
>>215565838>Say..did the danish ever conquer anyone?I can't tell if you're trying to upset me with this.
>>215565838If it wasn't clear, there is nothing dignified with ruling the world. It is an act of relentless barbarism.
>>215565912>Its relentless barbarism to civilize the barbarians and demand that they behave like actual humans with decency in a nation of laws and continually punish them with second-class citizenship when they will notThis is literally the entire basis for human civilization, Anon. Without it we'd still be living in huts, unable to organize anything more advanced because raiders and criminals would still be coming by to burn our farms down and steal our shit any time anyone aspired to anything greater than being a dirt farmer. Protecting property rights, and forcing people to behave decently according to a set of societal standards, is the very basis for all ambition - people only want to put work in when they know they'll get to keep the fruits of their labor to some degree or another, which requires putting all the barbarians in line.It was very dignified. You just don't like it because you don't acknowledge that everything you love in the world would not be possible without it. Want to see what non-civilization is like? Look at people butchering each other in South America or Sub-saharan Africa. That is what that looks like.
no shit like everyone on my country obviously thinks that Europe is white
>>215562146Brown ass hands
>>215552675Yes, of course.
>this is "white" in Europe
>>215565912>an act of relentless barbarismAnon i see it is a facet of man's boundless ambition. Moral shortcomings aside, it is about transcendence and self-actualisation.>>215565882Oh you're not danish? Sorry you know all you white people look alike to me
Spain is not ethnically homogeneous.
>>215566628now lets see the FBI's white crime statistics
>>215566491Is it hubris or plain ignorance to pretend the world would not go on without ethnic genocides and imperialism? The US has done more to set back the world than any other country in the world. Destabilising whole countries, uprooting leadership and engaging in proxy warfare. Literally playing with people's lives to further their own strategic interests. While churning out constant cinema slop back home about how the soldiers felt bad shooting the brown kids, but had to be done.
>>215566959Its plain ignorance to pretend the world would go on without ethnic genocides and imperialism. The human race has not changed one bit in the last 10,000 years. That many millennia ago, we were fighting Neanderthal and Plltdown Man for the survival of Homo Sapiens - 3,000 years ago we were fighting between the Assyrians and the Egyptians for control of the Indus Valley, and today we fight the brownoid for the survival of modern civilization.There's always people who aren't compatible with what's right and proper for the human race going forward and they have to be removed so that proper humans can flourish because life is, in fact, a zero sum game. For every person that has more, someone must have less. We've spent the last 80 years treating everyone like equals and hoping that Luxury Gay Space Communism will give us free and infinite resources or something and make life fair, but it hasn't happened - life just keeps sliding into worse and worse conditions for the people who built civilization because they have to share it with the 7 billion useless shit-eating browns instead of centralizing the wealth and using it to fund science and technology. Sharing, or giving more people a seat at the table, has made things worse for us, not better. Better for you perhaps, but you'll find that eventually you run out of other peoples' money to spend and things backslide for everyone then.Our best hope as a species is to go back to colonialism and imperialism and try to get off this planet so that we can seek new resources and lands as our population expands. Otherwise we always, always have to divide into at least two camps and fight until there is one to get over the issue of scarcity and overcrowding. No exceptions.
>>215552675>LET ME TELL YOU WHY YOUR COUNTRY ISN'T WHITE
>>215566959>The US has done more to set the world back than any other country in the worldIf you're a shitskin, I suppose that might be true if you take it all personally. For everyone else, the US has personally contributed...>Powered Flight>The Microchip>The Internet>Mass Production>Space Travel>The Atomic Age>This Armenian Underwater Armpit Shaving Board...Among other things. For christs' sakes, you're posting in American English on the American Internet, Anon. Have some class.
>>215567636>Have some classI know I know, just ticked me off, the reasoning he gave to justify it.Also american english? What?
>>215567743There are notable differences between British English (Known here as Queen's English/King's English) and American English. We spell Aluminum with one 'i' and don't have a 'u' in Armor or Color, so on and so forth. English here evolved into a more practical trade language as time went forward, more egalitarian, whereas English has a bunch of stuff in it meant to set the literate and illiterate apart, like words with silent vowels that people will misspell if they're trying to spell it phonetically, rather than having learned in a classroom. This is an American forum thoughever, so we speak American English here and not British English. Its also arguable that the internet, being invented in America as part of ARPANet for the US Military, is natively lingual in American English. You're lambasting America while speaking our language and using our inventions, lad.
>>215552675Yes. Them and the Portuguese are white.
>>215567813I know about the alumi-num, the nu-cu-lar, the u in colour and honour and the many phonetic differences between the two.But India uniquely doesn't use american english. We're taught to write and pronunciate stuff in a British accent. In private schools, we prefer hiring english teachers who did their schooling from England. It is infact considered improper in oral tests, to use american phonetics. >Its also arguable that the internet, being invented in America as part of ARPANet for the US Military, is natively lingual in American EnglishI suppose, people eventually pick up americanized vernacular due to you guys being a soft-culture monolith.
>>215562146you are not white pedro
>criollos mixing with whites is looked down upon in 2025 America lol
>>215552675med countries are melting pots like muttmerica
>>215552675>>215556262>>215556614You can be a Nordic perfect human, but speaking spic as your native language makes you not White
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>>215566491Delusion the post.>>215566651>Oh you're not danish? Sorry you know all you white people look alike to meYeah, but denmark also occupied my country.
>>215569398>>215566550>cant prove me wrongmany such cases
>>215571516>but denmark also occupied my country.Sorry about that anon..atleast you got to try the danish pastries, which are good i think.
>>215552675Spaniards are white dumb nigga
