When did Europe take the wrong turn? Was it Napoleon? The german unification?
It started with the Independence of Greece:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concert_of_Europe#Collapse_of_the_Congress_System
>>215553395the fall of the roman empire
Post-WW2 attitude of "conservatism is the spawn of Satan and not wanting mass immigration makes you Hitler 2.0"
>>2155533951848 unicronically. If the liberal revolutions won then WWI wouldn't have happened, therefore no WWII, Europe never loses relevance to the americans. We tried to save the world and you refused to listen.
>>215553395>Was it Napoleon?Yes, he lost and Europe got fucked forever.
>>215553395Their turn to globalism fucked them. I don't understand why they're so obsessed with it and devoted to it.
>>215553395WW1 killed the european spirit forever and we never recovered
>>215553395WW1. It should've never happened
>>215553395The renaissance, that's when the Jews took over.
The loss of Vercingetorix
>>215553395When liberal goypitalism prevailed.1945 for Western Europe, 1991 for Eastern Europe. Literal points of no return when everything got fucked up.
>>215553395Not sure if this qualifies as a concrete event, but there's two things prior to the French Revolution that stand out to me. The first is the tragedy of the commons, where I'm told to believe that people grazing their animals would turn Europe into a desert. Another thing is guild/fraternal warfare, where guilds ostensibly to preserve their monopolies would sabotage and war with one another even if their industry is essentially fossilized. These two issues forced the mass bureaucratization of polities and formation of nation-states, even as far back as Adam Smith and Rosseau there was talk similar to union busting rhetoric.
>>215553395chat is this real
WWI and WWII being the final nail in the coffin. at least we aren't killing eachother by the millions anymore
>>2155533951914before that people had class, they werent just pretending to have it and europe wasnt not weakThe russian revolution happened (id have to tell you why thats bad) and people were pushed out of their natural borders
>>215553395Marx and you well know it under all the intricate cope.
It's when Romans made Christianity their state religion.It permanently chained spirituality to secular governance to the point where it's become impossible to separate the two. Every European state that has come after has been a sort of crypto-theocracy because of it and it permeates European (or rather, western) thought to this day, even in explicitly non-religious states like the communist bloc or modern liberal democracies. Even when they don't have a priestly class anymore they go on converting, liturgizing, preaching as if on autopilot.It's a fundamentally absolutist and static worldview: faith turned from a matter of tradition or personal conviction into a deliberate tool of mass control.It's politicized spirituality and indoctrinated politics, and it's made administration a matter of faith and faith a matter of bureaucracy. It is the greatest disaster that's happened to European thought.
>>2155533951945
>>215558278yeah because romans never mixed religion and governance before christianity lmao
>>215558278>It permanently chained spirituality to secular governanceThe very concept of secular government didn’t exist until the Renaissance. Elections in the Roman Republic were themselves considered a solemn religious ceremony sacred to Jupiter.
