>For Afrikaner supporters of the concept, it is about "saving" the nation. This goal requires preserving the Afrikaans culture, language, and religion of the Dutch Reformed Church, which is linked to it, and defining a territory where its members can settle and constitute the demographic majority. >The Volkstaat would be necessary for preserving the influence of the Afrikaner nation.>Since 1994 and the reintegration of the Bantustans, Afrikaners have represented 6% of South Africa's population (2001 estimate), making them the third-largest ethnic group behind the Zulus and the Xhosa.>Once the national language on par with English and the second most widely understood language in the country (after the Zulu language), Afrikaans has seen its use virtually disappear from the entire public sphere. While 90% of communications are conducted in English in Parliament (where 90% of MPs have another mother tongue), its use is reduced to a minimal portion in radio and television programs. Teaching it is made more difficult.>Before 1994, five universities (out of 31) used Afrikaans as the only language of instruction (Orange Free State, Potchefstroom, Pretoria, Rand Afrikaans University, and Stellenbosch).>Since the 2000s, instruction has been generally in English, and only two universities have been able to temporarily maintain their teaching in Afrikaans.>In 2002, the administration made English the sole language of internal communication.>Since 2002, a number of places have been or are being proposed for renaming. More than 200 names have been changed, and 57,000 are being proposed for change. Afrikaners, whether they are progressive or conservative on this issue, have deplored the fact that historical Afrikaner names or names linked to Afrikaans culture are the first to be targeted (Transvaal, Pietersburg, Potgietersrus, etc.), while at the same time, Anglophone colonial surnames are being preserved.
>>215631015This shit will never fucking happen. We're pseudo segregating at coastal areas atm. Eventually it's into the ocean for us I guess.
>>215631099Without any port any afrikaner nation is dead, capetown or bust
>>215631099>>215631118ANC are so comically incompetent it might as well happen when shit hits the fan after the land reform becomes serious
>>215631099At some point you will have to accept the fact that colonization is over and pack your bags like the pied noir or rhodesians
>>215631015If Afrikaners just mass migrated to Indonesia everyone would be happy
>>215631692They go back to Europe only to see it’s been reverse colonized
I'm never in favor of genocide. It's one of the worst things humanity has ever done to itself and I hope one day we all live in love and harmony as one to explore the stars.That being said if I had to genocide an ethnic group it would absolutely be the Afrikaners.
>>215631015Afrikaners already fucked the entire countru, anglos shouldnt have put up with their autism for 50 years
>I'm never in favor of genocide. It's one of the worst things humanity has ever done to itself and I hope one day we all live in love and harmony as one to explore the stars.>That being said if I had to genocide an ethnic group it would absolutely be the Afrikaners.
>>215633675I'm white unlike you cattle mexican.
>yo es white unlike you cattle mexican o algo
>>215631099What does Oranje look like today? Does a secession look possible if every Afrikaner moves there?
>>215633964*Orania
>215633918You will never be white
Orania is a closer concept to early Israel than the often compared Rhodesia and Apartheid Safrica. 'Selfwerksaamheid' should have been pivoted to long before the vestiges of white-minority rule had given out
>>215633637Nigga if the Brits didn't fuck up the Boer republics apartheid wouldn't be a thing.
>>215634030The British fucked every country they spawned. How come we got rid of segregation earlier despite having far more entrenched racialism?
>>215634060Ask the Brits, they're the ones who codified the laws that would later serve as the basis for Apartheid, and they flooded the Transvaal with blacks not native to the region for cheap labor.
>>215634095I mean even so though, they gave us slavery and a far worse system of racial hierarchy to start to the point we had to fight a civil war over it. They just did basic racial segregation to begin with and then the Afrikaners and Anglo south africans went all in on creating a herrenvolk regime>captcha:NNNNN
>>215631015>>215631099>Move to Africa>Be surprised Africans live there >be surprised that they aren't solely there to work for you.What the fuck does one expect?
>>215634095>they flooded the Transvaal with blacks not native to the regionMost of the people there are local. Also state borders don't neatly line up with ethnic and former state borders.
>>215634030The Boer republics had racial polices and a clear racial hierarchical system.>>215634010>Orania is a closer concept to early IsraelIsraelis were often forcing the locals off land, rounding up people and using physical force to do.
>>215631015>ChuddyFuck off back to plebbit, retard.
>>215634291>Israelis were often forcing the locals off land, rounding up people and using physical force to do.This was primarily during the 47-48 civil war and Arab-Israeli war. The kibbutz ethos was self-reliance, with many zionists of the second Aliyah (1900s-1910s) criticising Jewish reliance on Arab labour.
>>215634406>This was primarily during the 47-48 civil war and Arab-Israeli warThus early in the official formation of Israel as formal state.
>>215634451The Yishuv had half a century of development before Israel officially became a state. Many of those institutions were carried over into the nascent Israel. Historian Benny Morris believes the population transfers were a choice between ethnic cleansing, or imminent extermination, which I don't think is a stretch from the Israeli perspective at that period in history.
>>215634246Bantus belong to the nigeria-ghana area
>>215634502I'll vgh that southern cone and southern africa arent 100% white until I can vgh no more
>>215631692There are still around 40,000 whites in Zimbabwe, according to official statistics. But maybe those are made up, idk.
>>215634485So antagonize the locals, find a way to subjugate them and take their land+labour and then also justify their expulsion while coming off fresh form the holocaust?
>>215634546oops, actually it's 25,000https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Zimbabweans
>>215634237The Caucasity of these bitches fr fr
>>215634559I don't think you have a great picture of the Mandate period. The Arabs would have been antagonised with or without the Jewish political ambitions then. It was only until the 1939 White Paper that the Yishuv made it policy to seek a state. And this was after the Arab revolt, where there were many massacres and much pillaging. The White Paper explicitly forbade further Jewish immigration at the behest of the British authorities, at a time when German and Polish Jewry were given the choice of camps or expulsion.I realise that the introduction of a seemingly alien minority, and the changing socio-economic mores would have frightened Palestinian Arabs, but they were also exploited by xenophobic rabble-rousers from the Husseini clan, that which prevented a peaceful settlement -- whereas the Nashashibi family were more keen to negotiate.
>>215634708>>215634559It's actually kind of depressing how interwar Arabs' clannish nature was the fulcrum of their lacking competition towards the Zionists. If Pan-Arabism was given time to coalesce by the dying Ottoman Empire, then there would have been a much different outcome & settlement.>From al-Jami’ah al-Islamiyyah, August 21 and September 2, 1932, respectively: “…because the Jews are alert, and our leaders are asleep, the Jews are buying the lands” and “the Arabs will never regard these sales as legal although the Jews possess the titles to these lands…when political conditions change, the Arabs will demand that their lands be given back to them.” From al-Jami’ah al-Arabiyyah, September 16, 1932: “There is no doubt that the question of the sale of land is about one of the greatest dangers that threatens the future of the country.”It reminds me of that quote in Lawrence of Arabia:>So long as the Arabs fight tribe against tribe, so long will they be a little people, a silly people - greedy, barbarous, and cruel, as you are.Divide et impera, it always remains the same.
>>215634246>they flooded the Transvaal with blacks not native to the regionSource: Autistic Bro Trust >>215634502>Bantus belong to the nigeria-ghana areaWhy are there no Bantus in those areas then?
>>215631099durban is chill you're just a hater
>>215634030The entire Boer wars were because the Boers wouldn't give any rights to black or coloured people and had slaves in fucking 1900 Even when they surrendered the single condition was that black people couldn't have any rights in the new colony All of apartheid was just gibs to give welfare to the Afrikaner white trash underclass who would be unemployable if they couldn't bar 90% of the population from having a proper job
>>215633964Orania is a bit of a meme but it's probably the safest place in the country for obvious reasons, I used to visit to see what happens there. It's nice, orderly and clean as far as I could tell.>>215633335go back>>215634237Why do you act like I personally decided to move here with the goal of implementing apartheid you fucking braindead ape
>>215638572Not that anon but Afrikaner apes were rightly mocked for decades in the civilized West for being complete brutes to anybody who even slightly criticized their retarded racial hierarchy systemhttps://youtu.be/hqEFhx8-CQ0
>>215638627Do you even know the history of your own country retard
>>215638666https://youtu.be/bjC0F5vSv6QYeah we ditched that shit in the 60s, the concept of bantustans and internal passports was still more evil than anything even the worst segregationists ever conceived of
>>215638572>Hendrik Kipoopysdoerp tells me to go backI think you're just afraid the Xhosan bvll reclaiming his rightful land from you dutchman
>>215631015Honestly Afrikaners were so delusional in thinking they could have their supreme chuddy corner of the continent for all eternity.
>>215638709>our segregation was less genocidal than yours so I am very morally superior or something>>215638752No modern afrikaner apart from actual chuds believe apartheid was a good thing, you fucking retards act like we deserve to be killed for being born here. The seethe is endless
>>215631015why cant they just accept that the fun times are over and fuck off back to their homeland
>>215639483Yes anon im sure europe wants another 4 million refugees. Great idea, I'll just pack my bags and head on over there at my earliest convenience. Fucking retard.
>>215631015How abaut Cape Independence? It kind of Sounds like the only ok area wanting to secede from moneysink
>>215639421>No modern part of the genocidal chud culture apart from actual chuds believe apartheid was a good thing, you fucking retards act like we deserve to be killed for being born here (and being chuds). The seethe is endless
i feel bad for afrikaners. imagine being born white in south africa and unable to leave. id legit just shoot myself
>>215639554Whatever my guy, reddit is just one bookmark click away
>>215639533We would gladly accept Afrikaner refugees. I want this nation to be BLEACHED by superior Germanic BVLLS who will enrich us with their blonde hair and blue eyes (besides you already have experience of living among n*ggers and we're the white version of them o algo)
>>215639126They could because in the Cold War the west needed an ally nation in Africa. Then like Chile it no longer needed them and started behaving all high and mighty in terms of Morality.
>>215639591Give back the land you stole and then I will consider signing up for reddit
>>215639642>TP>TF
>>215639670We went in 100 years from literal slavery to legal equality. For the past 10 years or so the country is a bit faggy and retarded but we have done far more than the """"""Afrikaners"""""" in trying to atone for our sins
>>215639817anon he isnt talking about black slaves
>>215631015>Afrikaners have represented 6% of South Africa's population (2001 estimate), making them the third-largest ethnic group behind the Zulus and the Xhosa.Aren't the Zulus several ethnic groups though? like a billion of tribes?
>>215639817And look where that got you. Druggies and Niggers polute and trash your cities whilenbeeing free to kill and White without moch consequence. Ffs You bassicaly praise them while pattimg yoursels on the back how you are now Not Racist, as you force the entire world how this is the worst sin immaginable. Becauseblooking afther your own is now Racist and Nazi
>>215639905I mean I think we should do more for the Indians and they're more neglected than blacks, my brain is just stuck on the Afrikaner comparison.>>215639964We're the most successful multiethnic state in human history. Euro seething over the races never ceases to get old. The Afrikaners truly belong there.
>>215640107you said "give back the land you stole", so the analogue here would be the native americans.
>>215640107>We're the most successful multiethnic state in human history.You are in a begining of downfall state. Look at any other Multhiethnic states. Austro-Hungary, Both Yugoslavias, Ussr, they all fell down and fractured into ethnostates because thats the most logical state for humans.
>>215631015We want Indian nation in South Africa
>>215640152I think there's a better solution here than landback because Indians make up an incredibly small minority, but I don't feel like getting into a discussion over policy ideas on /int/. The Afrikaner question is different and less complicated in my opinion.>>215640214Our country has momentary lapses of retardation but yours doesn't even exist half the time.
>>215640307You already had Ghandi there so the foundation exist.
>>215640397Yes anon I made all those posts and each flag represents a single individual
>>215640214Your country hasn't even existed for 50 years yet, I think we'll be just fine after overcoming our current duncesWe've done it before and we'll do it again, as Americans.
>>215640942Amen my nigga. We will overcome our current issues, and one day we will look at each other as just our fellow americans again.
>>215640984I ain't Jewish or a woman Finngolian Paki, we already know your shtick at this point
>>215641042Amen nigga
>>215639964nigga give /pol/ a rest
>>215641312This isn't /pol/ anon. this is just the European mind. They refuse to believe the most valuable things their ethnicities have produced are flag waving freedom loving americans. It wakes the europoor mind up every night.
>>215634708>>215634865The political leadership of the Arabs was totally retarded, but this>It was only until the 1939 White Paper that the Yishuv made it policy to seek a stateseems a silly statement. Zionism was always about a national home for the Jews. Many Zionists attempted to cloak this in different ways but those were basically just tactical decisions. Every fear the Arabs had came to pass.
>>215641886This, the Arab Revolt didn't start in a vacuum. Zionism from the get go was about establishing a separate Jewish society that willfully rejected integration to avoid the fate of the shtetls in the East
>Afrikaners are still the elite of their country but are being passed off as poor farmers being oppressed 24/7Huh
>>215640208stfu dalitfinn and bow before fennoswede brahmins
>>215642111I'm not even pajeet Finnigger.
>>215631099boerd are saving mankind to the world's spite
>>215631015The world would rather put a fresh coat of paint on a collapsing shithole than chud out
so its a bantustan for whites?
>>215639553>How abaut Cape Independence? It kind of Sounds like the only ok area wanting to secede from moneysinkIt's a meme party run by a British expat who isn't even a citizen. They failed to get on the election ballot because they couldn't obtain the bare minimum of 300 signatures.
>>215642097Not him, but prove you descend the upper class Neo-Nazis that own 100% of Colombia.Latinxtroons are always projecting their own inferiority on Finns.
>>215631015Are there even enough whites in this part of Africa to justify its existence?
>>215639817>For the past 10 years or so the country is a bit faggyI think it's really strange that you do not see that your sort of attitude is exactly what led to its current fagginess today and to the situation in your inner cities. You aren't atoning for anything, you are just letting your country rot and disintegrate from the inside.Unless you're a negro, which would explain everything.>>215640107>We're the most successful multiethnic state in human history.Your greatness coincides with the Jim Crow era, it's been going downwards since then.
>You need to die because you dont worship blacks enoughThe political zenith of my countrymen
>>215631015Afrikaners should be summarily executed. Anglos are less backward so a settlement could be made for them
>>215645640HOLY FUCKING COW SHIT GARGLINGSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARAAAAA.AAAAA.AAAA.AAAAA.AAAAA.AAAA.AAAARSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARAAAAA.AAAAA.AAAA.AAAAA.AAAAA.AAAA.AAAAR
>>215648352DOGFUCKINGMENSTRUATINGKIKE
This guy is legit insane, I feel sorry for his parents
The Afrikaners simply need to ethnically cleanse the country.
>>215649276DOGFUCKINGRABINICALLY RAOEDKIKE
>>215646574But Germany is the one declining?>>215640214Your country's sole strategy is bumming money from Germany.
i hope the Afrikaners get their country
>>215646574>Our satellite is talking to its master Every time Germany has embraced “greatness” it’s resulted in getting bitch slapped by us and in the case of the second time the Russians. Mind your place, subject
>>215655193They deserve, black niggas won't let them rule the country but don't want them to flee their black assess either. Tsundere niggas must be put into place.
>>215655947It's apartheid's fault even though they've had 3 decades of black rule to improve things a bit and the country's suffering from blackouts, cities turning into piles of trash and billions vanishing from the healthcare system you dont understand
