>Blame Italians for the protestant schism >Blame Serbs for starting WW1>Blame Jews for losing WW1 >Blame Poles for starting WW2 >Blame America for making them importing Turks>Blame Italians (again) for not enough austerity >Blame Poles (again) for the latest European warWhy they can't take responsibilities? Their current social and economic issues directly stems from Merkel's policies regarding energy and immigration yet she blames eastern europeans rather than admitting her mistakes
The german spirit is more akin to the russian spirit, it's not european
Who cares
>>215638419Genuinely one of the worst leaders in european history yet the media kept sucking her off despite failing at literally everything she tried to because she was the first woman to lead germany.
>>215638419Take bribes from Gazprom, start building Nord Stream 2, start the immigration crisis—blame others.Typical hypocrisy.
>>215638419It's the truth. Ukraine and the baltics are rightful russian clay
>>215638419Wasn't that cunt literally an East German Soviet apologist? Fuck her.
>>215638419>Why they can't take responsibilities?no idea, probably your fault
>>215638676>We destroyed the Roman empire but they were corrupt so it's their fault oder etwas You were like this since the beginning
>>215638757should have stayed south of the alps
>>215638419Yeah but Merkel's right, Poland goaded the Germans into starting WW2 and then did the same with Russia. Their conservatives are very bloodthirsty.
>>215638796https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cimbrian_WarSnowniggaz shot first
>>215638987based
>>215638419It's a basic tennet of the boomer German mind:>I am never wrong >I am not like Hitler>I am a good neighbour You can turn non-brown Germans suicidal/vindictive/violent with these three. Merkel literally wrote a book recently, this books is over 1000 pages and it discusses her never making a mistake ever in her life. XD
>>215638419>>215638532Angela Merkel is a horrible leader, the 2015 migration crisis is her fault, but in this instance she's right that Poland and the Baltic countries blocked direct EU negotiations with Russia over the implementation of the Minsk agreement, they were scared that the EU wouldn't take their security interests into account when negotiating with Russia so they did everything they could to block negotiations and keep all the negotiating power in Ukraine's hands, which ultimately lead to nowhere, the Minsk agreements were abandoned by both parties, and the 2022 Russia-Ukraine war started.
This is the Prussians fault
>>215639112did you read this?
>>215639138Even russians said that in 2021 they were going to invade anyways. Merkel is simply deluded and coping to save her legacy
>>215639112It truly is like thatMany years ago I worked with a german provider/supplier for a given solar installation for building roofs. A lot of their units would come busted/broken upon arriving and when we called they would always blame us for not properly installing and not handling correctly the product or whatever when it would already be broken before even opening the boxes but they pretty much refused to acknowledge this as far as I understand. Anyways we eventually switched to chinese stuff.
>>215639297As usual, Germanic racism against us med pipo is appalling
>>215639271>Even russians said that in 2021 they were going to invade anywaysBecause it was obvious to both sides that the Minsk agreement failed by that point, Merkel herself said that she and Hollande just used the agreements to buy Ukraine more time to arm itself.
>>215639394Merkel is saying that she and Macron could've salvaged the situation right before the invasion though
>>215638419based and true
>>215639426she's bullshitting on that part. Putin called Zelenskyy in 2021 and asked him whether he intended to implement Minsk II and he flat out said no.
>>215639138>>215639394>>215639480Hang tankies on lampposts
>>215638419but don't they blame america?
>>215639536shut up and die
>>215639536To a Ukrainian ultranationalist, anyone not toeing a your line is a "tankie".
>>215639572Read theory retard, the correct term is "bourgeois nationalist"
>>215639654You're not a "bourgeois nationalist", you've been brainwashed by banderites.
meanwhile in germany 2025
>>215639691In the soviet playbook they are same thing anyway, so use the correct terminology at least
>>215639779the fuck do I care about the Soviet playbook???
well, everything Merkel built is unravelingmust suck to be esposed as a retard
>>215638419
On behalf of all Germanic peoples I apologize for the mutts that call themselves German.
>>215639983Because you are a retarded russian bootlicker who uses exactly the same "arguments" that the soviet and russians have been using for the last century to justify the most horrific shit.
our behavior has been excused!
>>215640393>Because you are a retarded russian bootlicker who uses exactly the same "arguments" that the soviet and russians have been usingIt's funny that whenever you criticse the idiotic governments of the Baltics and Ukraine, all their suporters can respond to your criticism with is "Russian propaganda! Russian propaganda!", completely ignoring the issues which prompted that criticism in the first place.
>>215640677He's correct. The EU did that after 2014 and then they invaded anyways
Yes
>>215640729The EU did what?
>>215638419Nordstream pipelines were blown up, we told them not to build those
>>215640843>Nordstream pipelines were blown up,By who, I wonder?
>>215640874By ukrainians on the behalf of polish overlords
>>215640874
>>215640874uswe told germany not to built them and they refused to listen
The germans can be so fucking weird
>>215640955Germany is a sovereign nation and doesn't need to consult with any third-party when buying gas from Russia.
Fake news article, Merkel did not say that. Yet every anon ITT takes it at face value. You're unironically all pretty fucking dumb people here, no wonder propaganda works so well.
>>215641068the land option was out, they had to build it in international waters. we could stretch our maritime stuff together with Finland and block access to Petersburg NATO lake
China sent warships at one point, they were polite and waved unlike the Russian navy
>>215641219>itz ze newz fault
>>215638419the germans have only two objectives in their lives:>fucking people in weird ways with a million fetishes>fucking people up because they hate the world and everyone in itthere's no rest for the german people
>>215641466>we could stretch our maritime stuff together with Finland and block access to PetersburgNordstream doesn't pass through Finnish or Estonian territorial waters, and as it rests above the sea bed of the Baltic sea the rules of EEZs doesn't apply to it.
>>215640677For your's sake, I hope the soles of their boots must be delicious if you would want to defend them
>>215641615Germany is haemorrhaging its industries just to keep giving billions of euros to Zelenskyy
>>215641669again, no addressing the issues, just trying to shut down the conversation with "careful now! Ask too many questions and you'll be siding with the Russians!"
>>215641647we haven't used our right to do it
>>215641727Repeating verbatim the russian talking points is not "asking questions"
>>215641588in this case, yes. The Daily Mail is a low-quality tabloid. They're publishing crap like this to get views/sales.This is what Merkel actually said:>‘In June 2021, I felt that Putin was no longer taking the Minsk agreements seriously,’ Merkel said. As a result, she and French President Emmanuel Macron sought a new format to enable the European Union to hold direct talks with Putin. ‘This was not supported by some, primarily the Baltic states, but Poland was also against it because they were afraid that we would not have a common policy towards Russia.’>The format did not come to fruition, she left office, and Putin's aggression began, Merkel continued. ‘We will no longer be able to clarify today what would have happened if.’
>>215642006It is when many of the "Russian talking points" are questions, and just because the Russians are also saying the same thing won't make me drop those questions,
>>215640818Didn't punish ruzzia and kept buying their gas
>>215642036don't even try, everyone is in a confirmation bias bubble.Fuck angela tho
>>215641068Poland is a sovereign nation and doesn't need to consult Germany when it comes to blowing shit up
>>215638419thats rough Buddynow watch this fatso hit the griddy
>>215641219>Would Putin have invaded Ukraine if it hadn’t been for Covid?” Merkel asked during an interview with a Hungarian journalist. “No one can say for sure,” she added, echoing an argument she also makes in her book. “If you can’t meet face-to-face, if you can’t settle differences of opinion eye-to-eye, then you can’t find new compromises.”>In June 2021, I felt that Putin was no longer taking the Minsk agreement seriously,” Merkel said, referring to the peace agreement relating to control of Ukraine’s eastern Donbas region following the 2014-2015 conflict. “And that’s why I wanted a new format where we, as the European Union, could talk directly with Putin.”>At a European Council meeting that month, Merkel and Macron proposed direct negotiations with other leaders in response to the buildup of Russian troops near Ukraine’s border. But a coalition of Eastern European countries, including Poland, opposed the idea.>“This was not supported by some. It was mainly the Baltic states, but Poland was also against it,” she said. >Merkel explained that these countries had been “afraid” that “we would not have a common policy toward Russia … In any case, it didn’t happen. Then I left office, and then Putin’s aggression began.”
>>215642134>>215641219>But even in Russia, some mocked Merkel’s assertion that more talks, by 2021, could have changed Putin’s plans.>“Anyone reasonably informed has long known that the disagreements between Russia and the West at that moment were already too deep,” Alexei Chesnakov, a former adviser to the Kremlin, wrote in an online post.Luckily even ruzzians say she's a deluded retard
>>215642134where does she say Poland and the Baltic states are responsible? She said they didn't want this diplomatic effort, she didn't say they are responsible for the invasion. That's a non-sequitur. As the other German anon said, you just want to confirm your fantasy that Germany/Merkel were somehow ever on Putin's side.
>>215642186>If you can’t meet face-to-face, if you can’t settle differences of opinion eye-to-eye, then you can’t find new compromisesThen she says the Baltic and Poland opposed her idea. Are all germs such sniveling rats?
>>215642104it does when that shit belongs to another country, and it was Ukraine which blew up Norstream2
>>215642228she simply didn't say what you claim she did, and your hostile reaction further proves your demented mental state. Go outside and breathe some fresh air instead of contribution to the dogshit state of online discourse.
>>215642285Do you disagree her policies (immigration, increased dependency on Russian energy) directly resulted in a weaker Europe and empowered Russia and made possible their invasion? I'm not saying she's paid, I said she's coping because her legacy is crumbling more and more
>>215642231I can understand why Ukraine would want to blow up Nordstream
>>215642347she made a lot of mistakes no doubt, but to claim she's responsible for the Russian invasion is delusional. Also, I find it funny when non-German Europeans blame Germany for lack of support for the EU as if anyone else did more for the EU than us. Also everyone BUT us uses the EU/Germany as scapegoat for whatever goes wrong in their country, so just fuck off with this shit.
>>215642401so do I, doesn't mean it was right for them to do so, especially since it harmed their main benefactor's economy,
>>215638419>>Blame Italians for the protestant schism >>Blame Serbs for starting WW1>>Blame Jews for losing WW1 >>Blame Poles for starting WW2 >>Blame America for making them importing Turks>>Blame Italians (again) for not enough austerity >>Blame Poles (again) for the latest European warNot a single lie detected, it's about time you started taking responsibility for once, terroni>>215640955>poleshit desperate to keep europe suckling the America teat at all costscan't make this shit up
Crazy how Germans voted for this bitch for 16 years straight. You can make a mistake for one maybe two terms but she was in power for 16 years. I thought firsties were supposed to be more educated on politics
>>215638419Why do Ossis suffer from Stockholm syndrome regarding Russia?
>>215642439>Also everyone BUT us uses the EU/Germany as scapegoat for whatever goes wrong in their country, so just fuck off with this shit.I don't do that>>215642490Sorry I don't care about non humans' (anglo) opinions
>>215642565Why are Poles so shamelessly addicted to Yankee domination?
>>215642599>Sorry I don't care about non humans' (anglo) opinionsYour own allies considered us better soldiers than you
>>215642613America is the greatest country on earth.Russia is a shithole
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