>>215641804
>five years in prison for supporting totalitarian ideologies
Oh, the irony

>>215641831
>you wanna ban totalitarian ideologies so it can't win and turn your country into a dictatorship? hehe....a bit ironic, don't you think?

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>>215641831
They're just giving them what they want

>>215641831
Umm yikes chud this is le heckin paradox of tolerance umm read Karl Popper sweet and rid yourself of your problematic views oh my sweet summer child

>>215641869
>so it can't win
You mean so people can't exercise their right to democracy and choose them? Doesn't that basically make the countries which impose such a bans dictatorships already?

>>215641831
FAFO trankie

>>215641804
>removing freedom of speech and choice of political party is….. le based!!

>>215641925
Yeah, we should legalize communist parties but for balance also legalize Nazi ones so that we can have a repeat of 1930s extremist KINO

>>215641831
fpbp

>>215641804
How did US unban communism despite being the biggest communism hater in history? They toppled governments and fought wars to make sure communism doesnt spread anywhere in the world.
Yes their main geopolitical enemy USSR fell but still China remains

>>215642128
Liberals don’t owe you a unilateral commitment to higher standards

>>215642040
this has been already ans answered in this thread

>>215641804
>Fascism = Communism
>Live under EU/NATO gay race gynocommunist bureauscatic rule

>>215642008
I'm not a communist, it just irritates me when liberals pretend they actually care about democracy and freedom of speech when they support throwing you in prison for questioning the holocaust or flashing a hammer and sickle.
>>215642059 #
This but unironically, banning nazism, or communism won't get rid of the social problems which make people deseperate enough to gravitate towards those ideologies.

>>215642154
Liberals can be dismissed as hypocrites

>>215642154
what makes you think it would be unilateral? I don't support banning communism or nazism kr liberalism, I actually believe in freedom of speech and democracy without being a hypocrite,

>>215642107
It was the ultimate assertion of dominance. They basically said
>we broke your buck so hard that there's no way your failed ideology is ever coming back so we'll allow you to publicly promote communism again as an eternal humiliation ritual
You have to understand that in the 20s and 30s communist organizations in the US had millions of members, many of them actual proletarians unlike today and the Red Scare was a rational response to the Cold War. Being a communist after 1989 is like being a monarchist after 1918 however

>>215641831
>tf
>tp

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>>215642191
both trankies and chucels deserve the worst censorship imaginable, the one they advocated for themselves

>>215641804
That's just a butthurt belt map though

>>215642283
>the one they advocated for themselves
I already told you I don'r advocate for censorship, I'm not a hypocrite like you.

>>215642349
*don't

oh men if we add that all latam would seethee for eternity

>>215641831
>tf
>tp
Communism is far less insane than Fascism. You shouldn't be thrown in prison for being a tankie retard. There's also less retarded forms of leftism when Fascism is purely the ideology of a psychotic retard.

>>215642398
You shouldn't be thrown in prison just for being a facist either,

>>215642349
Ok mother Theresa, go virtuesignal, pontificate and advocate for free speech in North Korea

>>215642040
You have to go back poopshit

>>215642452
North Korea is a dictatorship, getting myself jailed there would accomplish nothing. I'll criticise North Korea from outside it though.

>>215642283
How the revolution going, tranny?

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>Communizmus ruin me count-ACK
W LENIN
CHAMA!

>>215641899
me on the right (I am very intelligent)

>>215642418
>whataboutism
Silly bongoid, I said Fascism is far worse and a much more serious threat, not that you should be jailed for merely supporting fascist ideas

>>215641804
Holocaust denial is also banned in my country btw

>>215641869
>totalitarian ideology
Please define this in non-newspeak for us simpletons in ze lumpenproletariat

>>215642526
How is the holocaust defined?

>>215642484
> I'll criticise North Korea from outside it though.
you won’t do that

>>215642695
Killing of 6 gazillions of Jews in masturbation machines with wooden doors o algo

>>215642743
What makes you think I won't?

>>215641804
of course my shithole wouldn't ban communism if the securists and their useless spawnings are still in power

>>215641804
wtf? communism has nothing to do with nazism, just because russians used the name of communism for their imperial goals, it doesnt mean communism is bad

>>215641804
Poles truly are our bros

>>215641804
In the 1950s, the height of red scare here with the red chinks and norks and gooks, the Government tried passing a whole referendum specifically to ban the communist party but they still lost.

>>215642841
>Leon Trotsky wrote this post

>>215641804
>Croatia
What the fuck did Tito do to them

>>215641804
Europe needs to sign off as the background for world wars and let someone else get the spotlight for once.

>>215641804
they're not banned, they can be a collector's item

public display is frowned upon

Got tricked once and that was enough.
Wish communism upon muh right to voters to see how shit it is.

>>215641804
Glad to see that we still make western tank*ids cope and seethe

>>215643059
What about socialists in general? If I flew an antifa flag are the Estonian police Tiananmensquaring me?

>>215643121
>>215643120
rare flag

>>215643135
they've flown these flags before, usually some janitor comes takes them off later

>>215643121
Nobody thinks about you except when they drink Pilsner or play KCD.
I am a former Moravian influenced Protestant and I don’t think about you

>>215642771
only retard neo-nazis are targeted then and that is a good thing

>>215642522
In what ways do you believe it is worse?

>>215643145
New fag
>>215643155
As in like they get arrested or are you being hyperbolic

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>>215643210
czechs are all normies they dont post here
/v4/ isnt real

>>215643210
no they don't, I mean if I put an Estonian SSR flag on myself right now, nothing will really happen

>>215643121
>>215643120
So instead of being an actual liberal democracy which protects the rights to freedom of speech and expression, your country will start acting like a communist dictatorship and start banning unsanctioned political parties.

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>>215643247
it looks like this btw, sea waves

>>215643247
>>215643286
So it’s just a ban on Marxist Leninist parties or organs essentially, I see. And yeah I have seen the flag I like it in a vacuum but it’s genuinely deliberately shitty because russoids wanted to break national identity in their “Supernational” state

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I'm glad to live in a free country, where you can be a nazi or a commie if your really want to.
It's a fundamental political freedom to be able to express you political beliefs no matter what they are.

>>215643253
Ah yes, we should simply allow a party that persecuted its own citizens, supported terrorist organizations, and is prepared to undermine our national sovereignty to freely operate and spread outright propaganda, just as it has done for more than 40 years

>>215643445
hey Joyce

Banning any ideology isn't really democratic. Countries should trust that their education system will stop the people from developing these extreme ideas

>>215641831
Hang tankies from lampposts

>>215643253
liberal democracies are for western faggots, we are a totalitarian democracy

>>215643460
>we should simply allow a party that persecuted its own citizens, supported terrorist organizations, and is prepared to undermine our national sovereignty to freely operate and spread outright propaganda, just as it has done for more than 40 years
OP says Czechia banned ALL communist parties, if the communist party of Japan set up a branch in Czechia its members could be arrested.

>>215643734
>totalitarian democracy
That's just a dictatorship with manipulated elections, no different from thr current Russia

>Formerly banned

my oh my I wonder who would want to undo that

>>215643773
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stačilo!

>>215641804
we're very libertarian unlike other former eastern bloc countries

>>215643807
You don't understand what dictatorship or manipulation means. There is nothing 'manipulative' about outright stating in plain sight that certain ideologies are banned, additionally a country which respects the separation of powers between the judicary, executive and legislative branches of government can't be a dictatorship

>>215642819
because you’re sealioning

>>215643846
my mistake, it appears Czechia only banned one specific communist party rather than the entire ideology

>>215643617
naïve desu

>>215643870
>There is nothing 'manipulative' about outright stating in plain sight that certain ideologies are banned
That's the very definition of manipulated, by which the politicalmchoices of the electorate are limited by the government. In Russia, Russians can vote for Putin and whichever controlled opposition he allows to as to label elections there "democratic".
>a country which respects the separation of powers between the judicary, executive and legislative branches of government can't be a dictatorship
How can such a country exists when the executive stacks the judiciary with judges of their ideology (see both democrats and republicans in America), and the legistlative picks the executive and the executive in turn orders their faction of the legistlative on how to vote?
>>215643931
No idea what that means.

Eastern "Europeans" be like
>Umm we weren't communists we were OCCUPIED by communists sweaty, nobody voted for them and nobody supported them, the elections were rigged
>But now that we're liberal democracies we're going to ban those parties just in case even though according to our view of history they should get 0.5% of votes at the most, can't risk that, r-right?

>>215642398
>Communism is far less insane than Fascism
>completely destroy society
>destroy history tradition culture
>take peoples land property and private possessions
>kill or arrest anyone that stops you
I mean why is it less insane?

>>215641804
>the countries that actually experienced communism decided to ban it
Makes ya think..

>>215644501
Why wiuld you need to ban communism if you experienced first hand how bad it was? It's like writing a law banning touching hot stoves with your bear hands, surely the bad experience of touching the hot stove would be enough to dissuade you from doing it again?

>>215644541
North Korea is still communism

>>215644541
Because people are retarded and eventually forget the lessons of history. Gotta hardcode a reminder for the zoomers.
>Thou shalt not fall for commie bullshit again!

>>215644541
We all know why crime is bad why do we need to legislate against it? Surely people know the effects of crime and how its not good

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>>215641831
>five years in prison for... standing on roads

>>215644938
crime is an individual choice, we don't have a national vote whether someone nicks a granny's purse, that someone does that by themselves. Meanwhile, a communist government can only be elected if it gets some kind of majority in a legislature, which usually requires more than 50% of either the populae vote or the constituancy votes. If 1 person or 100 people or 1,000 people vote for a communist or a nazi party, those parties will still be far from gaining power, i.e. no harm would have really been done yet.

>>215644971
JSO were prosecuted for their actions, i.e. blocking vital transport roads, not for their beliefs.

>>215641804
>>215643145
OP = underage

> russians by sponsoring right wing populists

lol

>>215645120
>crime is an individual choice
So you dont believe its created by circumstance or necessity ever? Or systematic opression? Interesting I thought you would
Do you believe the nazi party should be allowed in Germany or other places? I personally think if Germans want to ban the nazi party and its symbols then they can because they experienced it, for the UK to ban a nazi or communist part i would find very strange

>>215644151
> No idea what that means.
You’re feigning civility and are actively dishonest

>>215645612
wrong, you're bad at reading minds. >>215645370
>So you dont believe its created by circumstance or necessity ever?
To a limited extent, yes, if someone steals because they're starvingg or thirsty I can understand that and would have sympathy for them.
>Do you believe the nazi party should be allowed in Germany or other places?
Yes, any other answer would be in favour of resteicting the political choices of the German people, i.e. it would be antidemocratic.

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>>215645158
>"there is a real risk of each of you committing further serious offences in pursuit of your objectives, unless you are deterred from doing so by exemplary sentences in this case ... Such sentences will also hopefully deter others." t. judge
They were sacrificial lambs of increasing UK authoritarianism, which is indeed being applied selectively. See pic, no muh 700k costs or five year sentences there

>>215645717
i despise British judges.