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What do you do for living in your country? How do you like it?

I am a software engineer. Pretty chill job and I consider myself to be in very high in social ladder given how good my job is.

I dont stress too much at work either. Customers can be pain the ass and anyone who isnt a programmer in my workplace. They feel like some HRs legion who is out to cause stress in my life.
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>>215739378
programming sounds like a shitty job, you have to actually think instead of pretending to.
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Cibc Mellon - fund accountant

It's alright
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>>215739378
i fix airplanes. i do not like it.
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>>215739378
I work on peoples houses. I am pretty much always sore, my hands always have cuts, and I'm always tired. At the very least I enjoy when people are happy about my work
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I'm jobless
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>>215739572
what do you do that isnt that
>>215739622
what does that mean
>>215739663
sounds cool tough
>>215739721
>work on peoples houses
you cut their grass and clean or what
>>215739748
how do you live
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Archivist
I get paid to deal with boomers trying to find out about their great-great-great-great-grandpa and how his name MUST be in this specific archival record and we're hiding it from them o algo
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>>215739900
what are the qualifications to have such job?
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tax office, I check if people file their taxes right
I don't like it
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I'm an electrician in the construction sector. A project can last for years so it all depends on where you're placed. It's all inside work on the one i'm at now so that's pretty nice. You cap out in terms of wage pretty quick but everyone actually reaches that cap if you understand what i mean. You WILL be making your 45-50k a year imc. But then not much more. There's no freelancing or working as a consultant for two years before you get a full time employment like there is in other industries. It's super easy finding new jobs if your company dies as well. I was unemployed for a week last year. That's how long it took for me to sign a new contract. But then i also know that i WILL be fired due to lack of projects again within a five year period.

Some insight into how my industry work. If you're a underachiever who just wants to make decent money and always have a job, i recommend it
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>>215740012
in Finland, taxes are done online nowadays and in my job I only needed to send my tax card to my employer and as I get paid the tax office gets that information and they fix my tax rate according to what my pay is. I also notice that they are doing a lot of automated processess and while overall I believe it has its benefits the system seems to not do well in edge cases and some mistakes has happened to me whenever I had to deal with taxes on inheritance etc.

how is Germany doing all of this?
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>>215739378
Nothing
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>>215739378
i type stuff on the keyboard and they pay me for that
and when i was a kid my mum told me not to type on the keyboard too much and go outside sometimes lmaooooo
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>>215740062
I did think of becoming an electrician if IT industry wouldnt work out. Partly becomes I am actually retarded about eletricity and I dont know how it works at all and there are times in my life where I am in situtations where i would really need that skill to do my own electric work
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>>215740116
similar, a lot is automated too, but there are still cases that have to be manually checked. I believe AI can replace my job though (and eventually will, even if it takes some time to adopt here). Still, there are certain jobs that will still have to be done by humans like audit and criminal tax investigation which is what I'm going for next. I hope that'll be more interesting and I'll like it better.
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>>215740161
what do you type
and yeah I was shamed on a lot when I was a kid for similar stuff. That said I see people who do similar stuff as I and they clearly went outside as a kid so I dont think it really mattered in the end lol
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>>215740214
yeah with AI you need to put yourself into a position where your work and its value is based on your expertise, basically where you can validate what AI does or you can validate stuff that AI should not validate
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I'm am architect (pod designer)
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>>215740496
what the hell is a pod in this context? the apartment in apartment buildings?
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>>215739378
$30/$40/$50/$60/hr?
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>>215740555
Yes
I mean I can't complain myself, but at least in my current position i'm forced by the developer to squeeze as many units as posible within the bare minimum code requirements, so at times times I feel i'm actually designing pods. Pods that would take me a 30 year mortgage to buy for myself lmao. Nah I don't get paid enough
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>>215740693
currently more towards 30 because I am at the start of my career. Tech jobs dont pay as much in Finland as they do in the US or Germany or somewhere else.
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I stoody
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>>215740766
and I mean I am not at 30, I am just probably be there in 2-3 years
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Male prostitute. Business is not good
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>>215740805
for real though
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>>215739378
Prompt Engineer
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>>215740839
...comedian
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>>215740892
are you funny at least
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>>215740940
apparently not
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>>215741042
Tell us a joke, funny man
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>>215739928
Usually a bachelor's degree in a humanitarian field + knowing an extra language or two. Though you'll be lucky to pull through with just a bachelor's, a master's is basically the bare minimum now.
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>>215739378
My parents started with wholesale of food and coffee (also exporting) and then built hotels. I'm mostly in the coffee section but on summer I go to Corfu
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>>215739844
>What does it mean

Cibc is one of Canada's 5 main banks here. Mellon is a spinoff that does accounting stuff. Basically I calculate the navps for mutual funds that cibc has so we can figure out the subscription and reedmable price. I also do journal entries for different capital stock, interest and dividend transactions and reconciliations
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>>215739378
I am an ornamental hermit, employed by my mother.

I like it. I do what I want.
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>>215741683
you sell coffee?
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>>215741724
what does AI mean for your work
>>215741602
which languages do you need? German, Polish and Russian?
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>>215741732
In short yes.
Most of my day we're getting coffee samples from Colombia/Brazil/Africa, decide on the orders, check on the futures contracts, place orders, oversee the roasting process, unload/load at the warehouses, receive orders from customers and schedule delivery, oversee packaging, quality checks etc etc
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>>215739378
>unemployed junior dev
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>>215741818
do you sell well anymore now that coffee is way more expensive
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>>215739378
>What do you do for living in your country?
PermaNEET.
>How do you like it?
All I ever wished for come true.
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>>215741886
We've had full warehouses when coffee was still $220, but at one point last year we got fucked and margins were lowered. We'll just have to make do with these prices, but there are markets outside Brazil which are flourishing and we'll weigh more into them (Guatemala, Colombia, Ethiopia, Costa Rica, Indonesia eg)
But yeh it's not like consumption ever stops despite margins getting at times narrower. Worst years were 2010-2013 according to my parents but I wasn't in the business then.
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>>215741369
Two guys were having sex with each other, which one goes to heaven? The one who had his shit packed
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I'm a 29 year old virgin and jobless. 4chan is the only place where I socialize. I have no friends IRL and no one to talk to. I just live at parents and I'm stuck here.

Education in STEM, BSc, but I can't find a job, they are all very low paying and I can't even get the entry level jobs because they want MUH EXPERIENCE.
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>>215742283
go for masters
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>>215741683
do you sell coffee to cyprus? i met someone like you once. our meme country has only 10 million people
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>>215742341
I couldn't stand being in that environment any longer, I want a job where I can at least socialize with similar minded people. I have wasted like 7 years in uni, 4 wasted in wrong programme.

Covid also fucked up things for me.
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>>215739378
I run several seed and feed stores. Just like in the sneed meme. I am our lead sales guy too. I'm also trying to convince them to go into auto parts sales.
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Optical dispenser, I sell eyeglasses
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>I consider myself to be in very high in social ladder given how good my job is.
I studied software engineering and I hate people who think like this. No you're not high in the social hiearchy no you're not considered an intelectual just because you know how to program. Here it's even worse because programmers can make more than doctors so codemonkeys think they must be incredibly smart people who know everything about everything so they butt into conversations that don't concern them and share their stupid opinions on things when in reality they're dumb as fuck and know nothing outside of the field they studied. Most programmers would be huge useless manchildren if it weren't for programming
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>>215739663
>i fix airplanes. i do not like it.

My grandpa was a RB36 mechanic when he was younger. He made it sound like pure hell. He got his pilots cert on one then ended up becoming an aerospace draftsman for most of his life till he retired. He's basically a Hispanic version of Cotton Hill now. Have you thought about moving towards electrical or private supply chain work? It's a good route to take once you start hurting every day to avoid burnout. I was an machine/auto tech in my 20s then moved into the clerical end and then to a semi-adjacent field.
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>>215742481
you dont have choice it seems, going to masters you can give yourself time to find a job without looking like unemployed to other people
i also extented my studies with the same strategy
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>>215739378
I'm an exterminator. Specialized in insect infestations.
Love my job. It's extremely satisfying.
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>>215742557
lets see...I have a well paying job, I am educated, the job is nice and office related with endless possibilities even after programming ends

doctors, lawyers and similar people are above me in terms of job but otherwise I think I have it good
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>>215742609
>you dont have choice it seems

I could put a bit more effort into finding a job. I am thinking of going to unemployment office because it's easier to get job in my field via those people, at least lower paying one.

>looking like unemployed

I would say I am self-employed in job interviews. I basically trade crypto and stocks daily, on good days I can make 50-100 euro, on bad days I can lose 100-200 euro... It's enough at the end to pay for phone bill, electricity, food.
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>>215739378
Officially - production line engineer. In reality - a fixer running between accounting, factory and product design team. It's pretty fun, people in the team are cool, but near deadlines you don't get to go home much.
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>>215739378
Customer support for a travel agency in the US. Basically all I do is solve problems for boomers in America. It's comfy and pays relatively well
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>>215740177
It's a skill you can learn in a few hours on your own. Don't let electricians gaslight you into thinking it's hard to learn. Kids could do it. There's a lot to know (and even then it's not that much) and it isn't complex at all.
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>>215739378
Network Engineer and not a very good one if I’m honest
Good
>Pays a fair amount
>Remote
>job security
>lots to learn
le bad
>Stressful when shit goes down
>”ERMM we have this problem and it MUST be the networks fault, you have to heckin prove it isn’t”
>lots to learn
At this point I mostly do security stuff and that’s most likely where I’ll end up
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I got a CS degree but failed to get literally any job in IT.

I work 911. USA is extremely high crime so there is job security but it's hellish in pretty much every way. It's constantly understaffed (the full 1.5 years I've been there) and the volume is extremely high. It's not out of the ordinary for people to wait like 3-5 minutes before reaching a 911 operator.
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>>215742754
>Basically all I do is solve problems for boomers in America

HELLOP THIS IS JIM T HOWEL I RECENTLY PURCHASED UR FLIGHTL PLAN TO RIO DE JANIERO- I NOTICED IT SAYS RIVER OF JANUARY ON MY GOOGLE CLENDAR. I WANT A PLANE TICKET IN AGUST NOT A BOAT RIDE IN JANUARY PLEAS CALL ME BACK

Jim "Big T" Howel
USMC Janitorial Corps. 1979-1979
'86 Pontiac Firebird, '15 Chevy Malibu, '06 Chevy HHR (The wifes's)
Dot com? I just want a hot dog!

sunglasses emoji

Okay siri show me Jenna Ortega nude boob pics martha get out i'm doing our taxes i don't know where the remote is okay siri high blood pressure medication walgreens is my medicine ready
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>>215739378
post programing socks, trannie
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>>215743089
Thats basically it. Answering dumb questions, dealing with Karens demanding refunds or to speak to a manager, making changes to flights. It's also full of Indians, I had no clue there were so many in the US
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>>215741755
>which languages do you need? German, Polish and Russian?
It depends heavily on the documents you'll be working with, but Polish and Russian would be the main ones. If you're fluent in Yiddish then that's a huge plus to your CV as well.
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>>215743470
>yiddish
just how common are papers in yiddish? I know that Lithuania had a Jews but documents being in yiddish is something I wouldnt expect
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>>215742911
What's the worst thing you've ever heard?
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>>215743605
it al kinda blurs together at some point

you hear agonal breathing a lot which is really gross and weird. basically old grandpa is already basically dead and lungs are filling with fluid so they do this raspy wheeze

but there are mass shootings a lot too. We have probably 3 person shot calls per day on average so some days there are much more. Probably 50% of the time it's a DOA
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>>215743424
>It's also full of Indians, I had no clue there were so many in the US

There aren't. They're only like 5% of the US population. They're just overrepresented in obnoxious overbearing encounteres.
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i dropped out of uni due to social anxiety, im a neet, it sucks because i barely have any money
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Project management in a small IT company
I mostly sit in meetings and tell other people what to do while I watch TV shows from home. It doesnt pay well but sometimes I'm surprised they pay me at all
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>>215743710
>basically old grandpa is already basically dead and lungs are filling with fluid so they do this raspy wheeze
Grim. What state, by the way? I'm guessing that influences a lot whether most calls are crime-related or not.
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Technician auxiliary in a factory that builds car sensors aka slave. Most of the time Im busy fixing machines that should have been replaced like 1 decade ago
I dont like it most of the time. Very stressful
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Musician
I thankfully don't have to rely on touring. Mostly it's church stuff, private events, teaching, lounge music, and theatre
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elevator technician
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>>215743901
Have you noticed a downturn in production over the last few months? Supposedly we put a bunch of tariffs on Mexican cars but a lot are still exempt from tariffs anyways due to NAFTA/USMCA and it seems like companies are still investing in Mexican car factories anyways. The new CEO of Nissan is Mexican and he seems pretty cool. He decided to go ahead with a next gen Q50/Skyline which everyone thought was dead.
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>>215743559
Quite a lot surprisingly, unfortunately most of the Yiddish archives got shipped off to New York during WW2 but there's a ton of Jewish material to sift through, especially those of local communities. You can access over 4000 Yiddish documents in the digital archives alone (and those documents can be anywhere from a single to hundreds of pages long)
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>>215744038
Here in the Bajio region the car industry is still very solid and everythings going as usual. In northern states some factories have been closing tho, as their automotive industry is younger and weaker.
Overall the chinese cars have been worse for the industry. Nissan straight out closed a plant and is on live support because BYD took over the market of affordable basic cars
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>>215744233
>Overall the chinese cars have been worse for the industry. Nissan straight out closed a plant and is on live support because BYD took over the market of affordable basic cars

I wonder if that will last. There were short term booms with Chinese cars like that in Chile and Australia but they started falling apart after 3 years and most people went back to Japanese and Korean cars. But they are getting better. Time will tell. I think Mexico signing a free trade agreement with China was retarded. They serve the same global labor niche as Mexico but have better economies of scale. Basically industrial suicide.
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>>215744336
Mexican federal politicians all come from southern states where there is 0 industry whatsoever. They are retarded commies trying to side with China to own America, and just chose to ignore that half the country relies on manufacturing and selling stuff to America, which is not a bad deal at all btw. Its been less than 30 years and industrialized states have already surpassed southern states in every metric despite having less population and support from the fed gov
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>>215744026
KONE?
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>>215743729
any plans?
>>215743858
project managers are needed anyway. Even if I like to claim that my manager is useless, he is the one who takes responsibility for shit I dont want to deal with.
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>>215743922
what are the working hours basically?
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>>215739378
40s neet living with parent
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>>215745169
Most of it is practice or driving to and from things. I aim for 4 hours of practice when possible. More like 6 if I'm preparing for a major gig sometimes. That's not always possible though. Teaching is usually a few hours a week. Church stuff and lounge music is probably several hours a week - it's fairly consistent and gets me stable income. Theatre is the most time consuming - that can be 2-3 rehearsals a week, usually 2 hours each, usually for about 8 weeks, then usually 9 performances over 3 weekends.
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>>215739378
It is complicated.
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>>215741728
what makes you ornamental?
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>>215741872
same
>>215742283
don't give up. you're still young
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>software "engineer"
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>>215739572
true, this is also why for rank and file software engineer vacancies experience beyond 5 years counts more as mileage than experience

t. backend
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>>215739378
I work in a startup and do almost everything related to IT. Automating financial processes, developing an e-commerence website with next.js, tailwinds, typescript, monitoring and managing docker containers and windows server, administrating CRM and helping accountants with their problems, helping deploy stripe as a payment system for our customers. All for mere 800 euro. Should I ask for a pay rise?
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>it's either NEETs or faggots working fake ass bullshit jobs in first world countries
>only anons ITT with real jobs are thirdies
Really makes you think
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>>215739378
I literally do nothing 80% of the time, while the rest of the time I send emails or do some BS in Excel. I hate it, and I want to change my job.
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>>215739378
I cant say it, but i don't like it very much

This is my last month paycheck
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>>215746809
if what you said was true then thirdies wouldn't have remained thirdies
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>>215739378
I'm a land surveyor technician
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>>215739378
I'm an alleged graphic designer, making anything vis com or ui/ux related
the job is very chill and pays fairy well but I seriously hate it
despite the previous AI doomsday prophecies it's pretty easy to find work, even still I haven't worked in 6 months and do not want to one bit
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>>215747082
what are your tools exactly?
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>>215746860
you should. I see no reason why your job is not in danger of getting automated
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>>215746960
Are you 12 years old, retard sama? Do you think life is as black and white as that or that the actual circumstances we have right now just spawned out of nowhere with no precedent? How can you be so dumb? Genuine question please answer me. Just how. It's the same kind of retardation as those people telling diasporoid jeets that are le smart to just go back and magically fix india, or why is india this and that if those few guys are so le smart. It's a very limited way of seeing the world. You have an IQ of 75 at best. "lol if these anons that are technicians actually had real jobs in comparison to all these neets, their countries wouldn't be poor lololololo". Die.
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>>215739378
I'm also a programmer, the current client I'm working with sucks because it's a government agency and their business logic is very complex, you have to think and solve problems everyday
>>215739572
>you have to actually think instead of pretending to.
Exactly. This is the most tiring part by far
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>>215747133
nowadays it's like 80% after effects for motion design or ui/ux anything then remainign 20% photoshop and illustrator, mostly latter
I've been learning to draw and paint and have switched from doing that in Photoshop to Procreate now, which aside from that is also great for sketching in general
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