>>215782244
>tattoo
into the garbage

Damn we’re a bunch of losers

>>215782239
Exactly. And I can just use divination to interpret their meaning.

why you guys piggy postan?

>>215782244
god i wish my ass was that fat and i had that much cellulite

I have incel rage

>>215782244
Why do you keep posting this mid as fuck woman

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>>215782305
dats rite

>>215782317
slampiggys are in

>>215782319
how fat is it now?

>>215782311
lol

>>215782311
god i wish she was my mom

>>215782252
he was going to be a christian monk but then had a stronger doctrinal alignment with hinduism so he switched teams.

>>215782319
but instead you're just a fat guy

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>>215782364
don't mind if I do

>>215782345
I don't but I thought given how much she gets posted she deserved her own edition

>mid as fuck
lol you'd be begging for some of that

I don't get it. The americans I've meet were all happy and bright but you guys are bitter and somber. How come?

we fucking lost

>>215782432
/cum/ has been invaded by a bunch of loser incels. kinda sucks

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I refuse to look at women or masturbate until I looksmax until I'm able to fuck women in real life. I need to be sexually frustrated in order to motivate myself

>>215782411
Sure kraut but I did know a krautchad who would sweep grills. Tall as fuck

>>215782432
you should see me at the hockey games.

>>215782427
I absolutely would not. I'm not a closeted fag so I don't hyperfocus on gelatenous asses

It’s over. give up now

back from my 3 hour nap

>>215782507
>gelatenous
Okay open faggot

>>215782471
Based actually

baby give it up

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>>215782496
Thank you for keeping up with the old edition
Real G shit

If you don't enjoy large asses then you're low T, simple as

>>215782244
>>215782364
These are slampigs
>>215782311
This is just fat and gross.

>>215782432
I am as bright as a sunflower. I am radiant. My joy is infectious. My love is boundless.

>>215782541
>5 cents

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>>215782512
hope isnt a part of daily life. you'll just keep saying "im blackpilled, im blackpilled" over and over again while life passes you by. nothing changes. impotently screaming at the universe for not being the way you want it to only destroys your chances at finding harmony from within

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>>215782541
Always do

it is finished

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>>215782559
>These are slampigs
Nothing wrong with that I recon

>>215782384
Does he live in a monastery?

>>215782466
lol what a stereotype

It never began

PANTHIES WON

/cum/ lost

>>215782611
>yeah. hes moving to india for some training thingy.

Repeating digits were promised to me two thousand years ago.

>>215782571
I used to post things like that but I would get attacked viciously and told to kms

>>215782641
Well I wish him and that it isn't one of those indian scams.

>>215782571
Kill yourself

>>215782685
Yeah that was me

you never had a chance

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Confession hour:
I do have one video of a woman with a ridiculously large arse saved for masturbatory purposes.

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people are ok talking about killing birds but if you talk about dispatching feral cats they turn full reddit soyboy. TNR of cats is technically a violation of the Endangered Species Act as well as the Migratory Bird Treaty Act but low T soyboys that don't care about nature go bonkers over their furbabies so it's not enforced even though feral cats kill north of 2 BILLION birds in the US annually (a number most can't believe) unwashed white dudes with dreadlocks that hike on 'trails' will bitch about leave no trace and harass families in nature but they'll feed stray cats, volunteer at cat shelters, feed stray cats at their work, etc.

what does /cum/ think of slavoj zizek

>>215782714
Not only here but yeah thanks.

>>215782432
why do foreigners think rich tourists represent the average Joe? the people you met spend 3 months a year on vacation, why would they ever be bitter about anything?

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>>215782685
people say that to me all the time too. i just take it as a compliment. people telling me to kill myself just means that my life has some sort of value even to them. if people can get angry, i think they can learn to love life again. wrath is a shallower layer of hell than melancholy.
>>215782707
it's legit im pretty sure. just sort of a crazy thing to see. his sisters sad because she wont really get to see him again.

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>TNR of cats is technically a violation of the Endangered Species Act as well as the Migratory Bird Treaty Act

>>215782765
Don’t care
Listening to him speak disgusts me actually
Gross sounds he makes all the time

>>215782244
>tattoo
into my bed

>>215782784
I feel the same way about your creepy high pitched voice

>>215782765
Never heard of him

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>>215782765

>>215782471
Yeah that'll definitely work

>>215782765
i like him overall. i think he's done a good job of reclaiming communism from psychotic antifa types and has interesting things to say about just any topic. i have the same problem with him as most leftists, the sexual psychologizing of every issue feels like projection rather than a constructive model of society. but he has great points often enough that he's worth listening to even if you arent a leftist.

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>>215782765
>AIDIOLOGHY
>snorts
>spits in your face
>you know in the movie the "Dark Knight Rises"

I don't like him but he can be funny.

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bf is making pumpkin spice cookies

cum REAL or cum FAKE? gettin real tired of posting in the dummy cum. stop bullying me

>>215782852
Fag

>>215782851
Kill yourself faggot

>>215782833
>but he has great points often enough that he's worth listening to even if you arent a leftist.
doubtful LOL, leftists are wrong about literally everything they're never worth listening to

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>>215782851
cute. i hope its tasty. i like mithrun a lot too so thanks for posting that art.

>>215782810
You don’t

>>215782771
americans are all rich and love vacationing thoughbeit

>>215782851
sounds like ass + neither of you are blue-eyed. I made opera cake.

>>215782833
>the sexual psychologizing of every issue feels like projection rather than a constructive model of society
this, he is a bit of a pervert

>>215782781
I don't take it personally, I just don't want to argue, also I don't want anons to feel that way.

>>215782851
Live yourself homosexual

>>215782887
Baudrillard was literally right about literally everything you muppet. So was Foucault.
The entire society of control sociological structure is an immaculate model for media, the economy, and the state as well.

TP two folds
Wet wipes three folds

>uuuh you don’t flush wet wipes
Don’t care. Landlord problem not mine.

>>215782940
literally wrong about everything. imagine being this stupid

>>215782771
I've met averages joes when I go to the US. It's the same stuff that anon said. The difference is day and night. As soon as you come to 4chan everything is grim

It's a cope, rope, pope, dope, or hope world

>>215782964
you can flush wet wipes in the USA but we don't have medieval tier plumbing so

>>215782983
Poignant.

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>>215782835
I do feel bad for him that he has those tics and I admire that he is a public speaker despite that. I've seen videos of him when he was younger, he wasn't like that. I wonder what happened.

If I remember correctly his wife is kind of hot and a lot younger.

Confession hour:
I do not have any images or videos of women named, scantily clad or otherwise provocative on my computer, cell phone or other devices.

anyone else watching asmongold

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>>215783034
is that because you're gay

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>>215782921
>I just don't want to argue, also I don't want anons to feel that way.
thats fair. you cant change another person's mind, but choosing to engage with negativity can definitely change yours for the worse.
>>215782978
so true oomfie

>>215783039
Yeah his takes on the Hasan situation are very insightful rn

>>215783034
Same. Well not anything from the internet anyway..

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explains a lot...

>>215783065
Gross

>>215783034
i just go on amazon and masturbate to the plus sized clothing models. amazon even recommends new ones to me.

>>215783065
Additional confession:
I neither have images or videos of men naked, scantily clad or otherwise provocative on my computer, cell phone or other devices.

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>>215782910
>opera cake
my grandmother made this occasionally its alright, I liked her clafoutis as well
>>215782897
he's cute
>>215782928
wow thanks you too anon

>>215783106
gay and low test, got it

>>215783125
But you have images of drawn children

>>215782910
For me it's Brave.

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>>215783077
>the troon is a retarded leftist
lmao can you be any more of a stereotype?

There are two types of conservatives.

Type A
>Oh, I have nothing against gay people. Live and let live!
>Gives LGBT people in their family hell over it. Would disown their child for coming out of the closet. NIMBY

Type B
>Fuck trannies, fuck homosexuals, trans women are men in dresses, I don't support that degeneracy!
>Oh but my sister is okay, she's cool. She's a real woman. And my son is gay. It's okay if my family does it.

Which one are you?

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>>215783172
Further adendum:
The only images of drawn children (anime) that I have on my devices are not provocative in any way and are used solely for the purposes of reaction images.

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>>215782940
The thing about modern leftism is that when it joined forces with liberalism it became inclusive and fell to a commercial pull. In the process, it was absorbed by capitalism and rather than destroying it from the inside, it became a tool for corporations.
>>215782978
Wrong.

>>215783228
damn what's it like having aids?

>>215783253
Type B huh?
I'm assuming most here are Type B. Type A is more of a reddit/facebook conservative

The Raped

Every anime post is so HIV coded

>>215783276
umm I asked what it's like having aids??

>>215782765
*sniffffffffffffffffffff*

>>215783148
just leave me alone ok

>>215783228
These choices are not nuanced enough. Also there's a difference between being gay and being trans or whatever. The non binary stuff is not serious and I don't even entertain the idea.

Complain about AI

>>215783304
You tell me

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>>215783148
>he's cute
total mithrun love

For all you have been following along with my saga heres a lil update. I fucked up and didnt abuse the gfs tamagotchi enough and it became the wrong kind of fish now shes angry at me and i wont be having sex tonite. Hope you enjoyed later gamers

>>215783321
but you're the one who has aids?

>>215783333
Can I have sex with you?

>>215783310
It's not meant to be nuanced, but there is DEFINITELY a pattern.

>>215783148
She'll pay the toll

>>215783252
incorrect + you're brown and poor

>>215783333
Proof women only want abusechads.

lol nobody likes trannies

>>215783348
As long as you dont make me starve your pets sure

>>215783341
>Ends a statement in a question mark
Dude, this is girl shit, and I don't mean this in a "pinkpill" way

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what would you do if your own son came out as trans

>>215783252
>The thing about modern leftism is that when it joined forces with liberalism it became inclusive and fell to a commercial pull. In the process, it was absorbed by capitalism and rather than destroying it from the inside, it became a tool for corporations.
i think that all serious leftism has evolved from revolutionary proletarianism to post modernist structural collapsist nihilism so the entire messaging platform itself eroded among serious thinkers. putting up an organized front only creates a target for capitalist society to unite against, but with friends like that who needs enemies. staying silent and waiting seems to be destroying capitalism faster than anything, but i think leftists underestimated the potency of fascism to replace the system afterwards. leftism has never really created a compelling ideological front against third way fascism besides conflating it with capitalism.

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>lol nobody likes trannies o algo asi

>>215782432
We're in a bad mood today + this is 4chan. Freaks, fuck ups, and losers come here.

The only point of women is entertainment and sex
Relationships, marriage, and family is all just meant to domesticate men and take away their freedom

>>215783424
I'm not sure desu, I haven't though about it. It would be unfortunate.

>>215783371
But enough about you.

>>215782765
I like his humor on internal Balkans dynamics but his actual politics are bog standard boring leftist desu.

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>>215783429

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cumpies, im drinking covfefe

Off to my vegan in-laws' Thanksgiving dinner
Thank god they've got beer

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>But enough about you holmes

>>215782244
I've opened this in a tab a few days ago when somebody posyed it again. Who is she?

>>215783455
women want love and care just like men. the whores you see on social media are a vocal minority. it is grim that you do not have the mental capacity to understand this on your own. ngmi.

>>215783424
my dad just gets drunk and makes me cuddle with him

>>215783424
N/A because I will never have any children.

>>215783487
erm I'm talking about you, chuddy

>>215783538
What's it like having aids?

>>215783537
I gineka mou

Have to record a video of me talking about what topic i found "the most interesting" in my social and political philosophy class. Problem is, none of that shit was interesting and I have nothing to say.

>>215783424
I'd try to talk him out of it with facts and logic, but if that fails (and it almost certainly would since you can't reason with MENTAL ILLNESS) I will distance myself from him significantly (though I wouldn't cut off contact entirely)

lot of other canadian flags here trying to impersonate me and come off as me but then they'll express an opinion that is opposite of mine, what's the point?

>>215783424
Hope its just a phase
Dont chastise him about it but dont feed the delusion either
Get drunk and look at old childhood photos of him
Start trying to make a new son and hope that one turns out better

>>215783538
fuck me I misread your post
you're still a twisted asshole thoughever

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>>215783551

>>215783603
What if there's other canadians that are just as stupid and boring as you

>>215783596
Talk about the decline of will smith's career

>>215783596
But was it is?

>>215783604
what's it like having aids?

>>215783592
>you run through with women and never settle down
>thinks this leads to less STIs
completely braindead

>>215783661
Dunno I'm not canadian

>>215783678
sent that freak FLYING!

>>215783650
doesn't explain why they want to be me then... also a good chance that americans are using proxies to have my flag

>>215783670
Getting aids through heterosexual sex is extremely rare

>>215783603
no one knows you

just woke up fuck me dead

>>215783390
>Dude, this is girl shit, and I don't mean this in a "pinkpill" way
wtf are you talking about?

>>215783593
Tha 'theles

>>215783720
here comes one of the impersonators trying to do a damage control.....

Anyone else addicted to gambling

https://youtu.be/lKmL4cjFQkM

>>215783678
Sent that leaf fluttering into the wind

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Trudeau is getting it on with Katy Perry

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Making some dogshit beats in the lab atm:
https://voca.ro/11YEGqJAg8Ir

>>215783725
if you're gonna hate fags, you at least gotta stop acting like one

>plan outing with friend
>no response in over an hour
well guess it's time to get high

>>215783765
Hate both of them so much

>>215783678
BLEW that leaf so hard

>>215783774
(what if it's actually a girl)

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>>215783730
Den me xeris filaraki, I get around.

its crazy how horrific the ukraine war is for an infantryman. literally like the most ptsd inducing situation on the ground of all time

>>215782244
This looks so nasty. How can anyone find Sunburnt nasty pale skin attractive?

>>215783771
Send this to Pooh Sheisty

>>215783823
Guy
In
Real
Life

>>215783765
She has that ozempic body and face, it's truly sad. Also she didn't post tits in her prime which is a crime.

>>215783859
oh you're one of those schizos, I see

you have a black cloud over your head. get used to it

>>215782244
So fucking hot

>>215783871
Post a picture of your face

>>215783873
YWNBAW

i'm a girl

>>215783827
they says it's better than being a tanker

>>215783933
You are valid

>>215783927
alri incel if you say so

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>>215783886
indubitably

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im a mouse deer in real life

>>215782940
This is true but >>215783252 and >>215783426 are also right.

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>>215782244
>>215782364
>>215782649
>tfw they probably weight more and are taller than me

sometimes i think about what the bedrooms of some of these canadian posters smells like. probably like dirty laundry, maple syrup, farts, cinnamon rolls and cherry tobacco.

Bussy cum dumpster

>>215783924
lmao even

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What is it, exactly, that makes every single Australian flag such an unfunny shitposting waste of a bump limit? Is it the Australian climate? An ancient abbo curse? Evolutionary pressure to become venomous vermin? Seriously why are they like that? I want answers.

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>>215783977

>>215783984
i wish i could send the smell through the screen to you

Day 42 of eating at a 30% or more calorie deficit
Still fat

>>215784017
whya re you gay

>>215784030
You didn't lose any weight?

>>215784024
what's it like?

if we could send smells through the internet i'd assault everyone with smells of my butt and genitals

>>215784010
Remember before Covid when everyone thought Australia was a normal country

you're a natural born loser

>>215784057
well right now im eating a teriyaki chicken bowl

>>215784010
australia is the extrovert chad country, to be a 4channer there means you have to be a seriously introverted and annoying faggot
they also have a lot of jeets these days

>>215784063
I thought they were really cool, I had no idea their government is so pozzed.

since there seems to be quite a few libtards itt can one of you faggots please explain why you guys are going around pretending that soldiers in ww2 were "antifa"

literally nobody with a brain believes that and it doesn't convince anyone

>>215784056
I have lost 5lbs so far. I need to lose 50 more.

>>215784111
ChatGPT says America is 1% more extroverted than Australia

>>215784143
nobody has ever once said this in the entire history of humankind. you made it up so you could be angry about something. your life is a disaster you should fix it.

>>215784111
>extronigger calling anyone annoying

>>215784143
Who is saying this?

>>215784178
I've seen it said on Xitter

>>215784098
so the room probably smells like that + maple syrup and maybe dirty laundry depending if you're a clean leaf or not

The enemies of Côte d'Ivoire will all be humiliated.

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>extronigger calling anyone annoying

>>215784158
Are you really counting calories or are you eyeballing it. I've been doing Keto for 2 years and I lost a lot of weight, mostly fat and I don't even count calories. But I do fasting everything once in a while.

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>>215784178
>>215784197
72,000 likes, 1.3MILLION views on this ONE post

and there and tons of other ones, found this in 2 seconds. now explain, libshits

>>215784161
chatgpt says you're 1% gayer than this faggot >>215784183

Thinking about getting frosted tips for my hair

>>215784219
Where did you find this picture of me

>>215784248
do it bring back millenialcore you could be the new Fred Durst

>>215784229
being in a formal military fighting in a war against a fascist government isnt the same thing as being in the rightoid bogeyman organization "antifa". hth.

>>215784178
I've only ever seen retarded redditors and twitter journos say that, but nobody on this site would unironically claim that.

>>215784283
>I've only ever seen retarded redditors
but that's the majority of leftists, so why do they believe something so stupid

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Bought a Cherry Stream to replace my Microsoft Wired Desktop 600

The Stream is heavier, the paint is nicer, and the switches are quieter and sound better.

The 600 felt cheap and shitty. The backspace squeaked out of the box. The key placement always felt vague and I never felt comfortable using it despite having it for over a year.

And the kicker is that the Cherry is cheaper. It costs $32 CAD while the Microsoft one cost me $42 CAD. Fuck that thing. If you were looking for a cheap keyboard and don't want to buy an autistic LED gaymer mechanical reddit keyboard, but the Cherry Stream.

>>215784272
>bogeyman
They're real

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>>215784223
I am doing keto as well and logging everything I eat on cronometer.

>>215784306
they dont you're just retarded. good luck with your struggles in this world there are probably a lot of them huh

>>215784325
No they're not

>>215784314
no thanks I hate it

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>>215784219
>ACK!

>>215784345
you are the outlier here, but hey if you don't want to accept reality then go on and be surprised when you keep losing.

reading a book

Who else tuning into adult swim at 11:30 for the new Smiling Friends

this nigga reading books

leftists are winning the culture war
cope and seethe

>>215783825
You get around because you're so fat you rotate

>>215784402
I don't have cable

black people really have their own ecosystem, it's quite bizarre to encounter it on twitter. like there's movies they've all seen but i've never heard of in my life, their own popular pornstars, etc. they have a shared collective reality completely distinct from other americans

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>>215784272
ok so why are libshits conflating the two?

>>215784349
theres organizations that call themselves antifa just like theres at least 3 iras and like fifteen different kkks and a hundred neonazis. there isnt a shadowy hand guiding them according to the talmud to destroy the west like conservaschizos like to think its mostly just dumb kids larping.

>>215784349
Antifa is

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Are there FIDs on /cum/? we've got some melting down on /sp/

>be super competitive gamer
>stop at some point and just stick to casual games with friends every now and then
>life is good
>new competitive game comes out, friends want us to try it
>We all really like it
>Two people in our friend group, including my best friend, suck tho
>Like going 0 kills + 16 deaths per game type sucking
>No improvement even after 200+ hours invested
>They still love playing it and keep messaging me, asking to play it
>Absolutely prefer it over other options I present

I haven't been having fun playing with them in months. My rank goes down consistently and I lose against any opponents independently of how well I play, simply because I'm not good enough to make up for their dead weight. I'm tired.

>>215784389
what is it with you dumbassalt right retards and not being able to understand that a couple of retards on the internet are not representive of the entire group

>>215784451
what game

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>>215784444

>>215784433
>>215784443
Oh okay

>>215784430
almost as if race determines your character and how you view the world

>>215784444
Can I have sex with you?

>>215784431
because they are alike in the very vague sense that they both oppose fascism. damn man does your mom still pick out your clothes for you every morning or what?

>>215784336
Hm, interesting. Just for reference I lost 22 pounds roughly but I would say my carb consumption was kind of low, I lost that in 1 year. Now I'm stable, and I didn't count anything. I do a 36 hour fast every month roughly.

Do you exercise?

>>215784422
Then ime hondros re malaka, delet that.

>>215784462
>that a couple of retards on the internet are not representive of the entire group
ok please point me to the group that's actually representative of libtards because it sure as fuck seems like reddit and bluesky ARE representative of libshits.

or is your argument that reddit and bluesky are right wing bots to make you look bad...

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i'm not gay BUT.........but......if a canadian TWINK or FEMBOY sprained his wrist in a sports accident or something and couldn't 'relieve' himself and was getting pent up....I'd probably relieve him in an act of oral sex. i'm not even a fag I just get along well with canadians.

>>215784444
Can I molest you and call you derogatory terms?

>>215782244
what is her nameeeee

>>215784462
What's it like having aids?

>>215784433
>its mostly just dumb kids larping.
Then you shouldn't care when the federal government arrests them

>>215784515
human beings in the real world you fucking schizo

>>215784547
>aids aids aids
why are you always thinking about aids anon? repressing something?

>>215784306
Redditors aren't really leftist. They're just people with zero critical thinking skills who slavishly adhere to the State ideology. An actual leftist has come to their position through actual thought not because they were told to. A redditor is an unionic NPC who would be a zealous Nazi in the 3rd Reich, a hardline Marxist-Leninist in the Soviet Union, or a Maoist in pre-Deng China. They're not real political thinkers because they're not doing any thinking, just following. So in this society they're radical libtards.

>>215784201
we dont really carry maple syrup everywhere. and if i were eating breakfast i would eat it in the dining room. i wash laundry once a week

>>215784503
My carb goal is 22g but i average around 35g. I don't really do any heavy exercise. I just go for walks.

*grabs a hammer and smashes my wrist with it*

>>215784568
i dont. theyre mostly rich white kids that could use a reminder that actions have consequences. i dont lose any sleep when alabama fundie pedos get busted or pnw neonazi compounds are raided either.

>>215784604
What's it like having aids?

>>215784578
who clearly post on reddit in their free time you fucking retard

>>215784623
What's it like having aids?

I have a lot of maple syrup, probably a gallon in different varieties. Someone once gave me chai infused maple syrup, not as bad as it sounds but not as good either

>>215784611
Hmm...thats weird but don't give up, I probably didnt lose much weight in the first month

>>215784430
It's called a "culture"

>>215782244
What's it like having aids?

>>215784609
in my mind the erogenous zones of canadian twinks and femboys give off a maple scent. american twinks/femboys that don't shower for a bit smell like raw onion but canadians smell like maple.

>>215784628
I don't post on reddit because I despise reddit. Just like I despise you. The world is not black and white you polarized mutt. Touch grass for once in your life.

>>215784681
lol i dont think thats true. i have a more nutty smell. like roasted chestnuts

>>215784679
no it's not

>>215784692
What's it like having aids?

>>215784673
I'm not too worried. I did keto in the past and it worked well. I'm probably just holding onto water o algo.

Americans be like: let's bring people from africa to our land... Damn why are they so different?!?!?!

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I look like this

Cardo, your dinner's ready!

>>215784706
What's it like having aids?

>>215784735
What's it like having aids?

>>215784692
wow a libshit who's too low IQ to even model what his fellow travelers think. what a SHOCKER I am shocked...actually I'm not shocked at all

>>215784711
Nice, good luck bro. Do you feel better at least?

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my reddit stats
keep in mind this is not the first reddit account ive had

>>215784240
Im bisexual so its possible. Is your name bogan boganson by any chance?

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grim thread

is 5'11 tall or short

>>215784767
over

>>215784742
>muh libshits muh libtards muh demonrats muh reddit muh twitter muh trump muh biden
your mind is completely fucking gone

>>215784767
king of manlets

>>215784767
king of the manlets, you should know this

>>215784767
God emperor of the manlets

>>215784767
short

>>215784703
Then define culture if its not a shared set of values and experiences

>>215784784
so tall?

>>215784741
What's it like having aids?

>>215784780
What's it like having aids?

>>215784780
yeah it's called an insult my guy

>>215784760
Not really. My appetite has shrunk so hard and it's hard to eat enough calories each day. I am often light headed, dizzy and tired because of it. Maybe in a few months I will feel the benefit of being less of a fatass but for now it's just that.

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>>215784701
that sounds nice

>>215784809
youre fine dude

>>215784783
>>215784783
>>215784783

Everyone from /cum/ is 5'11

>>215784809
gate guardian to the lanklet realm

>>215784819
What's it like having aids?

Neighbor lady is yelling at her son again. She's really mean and calls him retarded and stuff. It makes me uncomfortable. I wish they would go inside :/

>>215784608
bit misogynistic of you

>>215784827
That sucks, maybe up the protein a bit, Carnies are saying 1 to 1 ratio works best.

>>215783424
My older brother did and i attempted to get used to it. This lasted two months. I then cut off contact because i refused to use his new name or acknowledge his claim to be a different sex.

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>>215785430
did he at least pass?

my theory is the ones who pass get less grief because they're not ruining their life (as much) as an ugly dude would be