Why doesn't Spain have famous scientists like other European countries?
>>216004566They went too hard into the whole Catholicism larp
they spend their time reminiscing about killing innocent native americans instead of doing anything useful
>>216004566an american made this picno one talks about whiteness except mutts
>>216004566they worship the pope and burn scientists for trying to improve the country
>>216004711You and I both know that's no true
>>216004866>let me tell you about your country
>>216004929You're probably a nafri that wishes europeans didn't talk about race, but that's simply not true. Go on social media or even here on 4chan and you'll see that's not true.
>If your culture and its achievements are so great, then how come I am so ignorant of them?
>>2160049764chan is literally infested with retarded neonazi rejects, of course they are going to obsess race. Reality is that nobody here cares about skintone, a very pale Italian and a very brown Italian are both considered just Italian, not ''white race'' and ''brown race''
England has NewtonGermany has LeibnizIreland has BoyleGreece has PythagorasItaly has GalileoThe Netherlands has HuygensSwitzerland has EulerSweden has NobelFrance has PasteurScotland has FlemingPoland has CopernicusSerbia has TeslaRussia has MendeleevAustria has PauliSpain has ....... Absolutely nobody...
>>216005059*about race
>>216005059>a very pale Italian and a very brown Italian are both considered just Italian,>t. brown seething and cope
>>216004566800 years of the Arab yoke
>>216005079I haven't seen this copypasta in years. Glad to see the Spanish hate is still alive and well.
>>216004566What's Italy doing up there?
>>216005002I'm a chemical engineer and I've taken several math & science classes. Trust me, in my four years of school I never ran into a scientifc discovery, concept, equation, or technology named after a spaniard. No amount of cope will change this, just accept it.
>>216004866>>216004976He’s right, Euros don’t care about race. They care about ethnicity. You aren’t “white” in Europe, you’re a Pole or a German or a Brit or whatever. And even within those categories there are smaller sub categories.The United States is a melting pot of immigrants from all over the world, so one’s ethnicity has less meaning when it’s removed from the context. Hence why everyone from Slavs to Meds are considered white in the US.
>>216005079And how are Greece, Poland, and Russia doing today?
>>216005165nobody cares
>>216005303you cared enough to reply
>>216005165So many years in school and you still don't know how to use Google?
>>216005165desu science is generally dominated by a few countries and it's really hard to get into this clubAustralians don't contribute that much into global science either yet you don't think they're inferior in any way (because it would backfire on you as a representative of the Anglo community)
>>216004866>img how do i make rice im soooo white Americans talk like faggots
>>216005260It seems like race is becoming more relevant among right wingers at least in Western Europe because of immigration in recent years
>>216005348The point went over your head, brownoid. I'll lay it out: Spain has not produced any scientist or inventor of note (a household name). This is like me telling you to google "black scientists" to prove that black contributed important scientific achievements. Yes, black scientists exist, but they didn't produce anything of note.
>>216004566Muslim retardation genetics
>>216005388It’s not just immigration, it’s also Euro white wingers swallowing American right wing propaganda. The influence the American right has had on the world since Blumpf was elected can’t be understated.
>>216005348sent that freak flying
>>216005388nope. Far right activists and political commentators talk about French people, or Europeans, but you rarely hear the word white. We don't think in terms of white people and black people for example, but French people and Africans
Look, it's genetic. Northern Italians are the smart boys of Southern Europe. The others aren't so bright and prefer to sleep or whatever.
But no one (including Spaniards themselves) considers Spain a country in the same league like Germany, France, UK etc so this question is just void. They don't need to be like Germany to enjoy life, they have their own way.
It's hilarious how europeans (especially the brown ones) claim they don't care about whiteness yet they get extremely defensive when a new worlder calls them nonwhite
>>216004711>tf>tpslit your wrists faggot
>>216005580The thing is that Asspain has produced a bunch of Nobel laureates. Not as many as other Euro nations, but some.The main one I know off the top of my head is Santiago Ramón y Cajal, who's considered the father of modern neuroscience and actually had a type of brain cell named after him.The Nobel Prize is a nordic circlejerk so it's not like it's an accurate yardstick in any way though, but it's interesting that some Spanish scientists even managed to pry their way into it.The first air independent and combustion powered submarine was the Ictineo II, designed by the Spanish engineer Narcís Monturiol.Our high speed rail tech sector (AVE) is huge, and we export a lot of it overseas. Spanish firms and engineers were very involved in building the massive high speed rail network China has been building over the last decade.A technology which by the way the US still refuses to develop and implement.The Spanish dollar was also the first currency accepted worldwide, and the precursor to the modern dollar. Ever wondered why your currency's sign is an S with two lines through it? The two lines represent the pillars of Hercules, a symbol used in our flags and coats of arms for over 500 years.That's kind of the stuff that I can come up with off the top of my head, but I don't feel like even replying directly to that guy that just came here to jerk off his ego.Even if it were true that we lag behind in scientific accomplishment to other Euro nations, this is not the only kind of achievement that matters.Most of our historical achievements are related to exploration and conquest. The idea that only scientific achievement counts is a modern soi mentality.I'm sure I could come up with more shit if I really searched it up but it literally doesn't matter, it's not my job to educate anyone.Why should we care that some morons out there do not consider us "White"? Historically, we have achieved more than 90% of these so-called "White" nations.
>>216005002kek keep posting on the Internet
>>216006531I will ;^)
>>216005108he's right though, in real life nobody and I mean nobody cares about colorism here.
>>216006032why are you mad?
>>216006668Don't lie my nigger. I've seen Italians on /int/ for years insulting each other and using words like "Terroni" for the darker-skinned ones in the South.We ourselves too have insulting terms for Spaniards from the Southern regions to call them lazy welfare leeches and moors.
>>216005260Thatay have been true in the early 1900s but today they talk about race just as much as we do and you know it
>>216006503You have lots of great architects and writers and artists too. That’s all I really care about. Lovely country.
>>216006860lol no, the terroni debacle is usually not based on colorism.are there people that used it? Yes but they were very, very few since in Italy it wouldn't much sense, but a blond terùn is still a terùn and the darkest, swarthiest Lumbard is stil a Lumbard, again, it wasn't about colorism.At best it was about race to some but not colorism, the skin thing I think was mostly about them working the fields, being low class and therefore being tan as the name might imply.Also that article putting central Italy there is funny, anything below the Apennines is Terronia to northerners The Italian version more correctly uses Italia Settentrionale, which does not include Central Italy.Anyway, virtually nobody cares about it and it's not about colorism, people wanted to federalize for money and cultural reasons, not whiteness
>>216004711Varg went to France because it's the mecca for whiteness preaching
>>216007112We (in Italy) do thoughbeit
>>216005336I'm just farming (You)s little bro
>>216007205assuming you're Sudtyrolean, I don't know your guys culture too well, but I've seen plenty of swarthy af sudtyroleans (and austrians directly in vacation and living here where I am in Tuscany) much swarthier than me for sure, how do you even work as a society if you're like that? Do you guys consider your sibling inferior if they have brown eyes or dark hair?
>>216007112I guess I misunderstood. >the skin thing I think was mostly about them working the fields, being low class and therefore being tan as the name might imply.It's interesting how in the past being darker-skinned used to mean low class, but these days getting a full even tan is considered a status symbol because it means you can afford to go on vacation or spend a lot of time lounging around on the beach.>>216007155It's funny how he used to call people with brown hair non-White subhumans, but then one of his kids came out with it, and now he's sperging out on social media how his very obviously dark brown hair is actually "dirty blonde" and totally different. What a funny internet man.
>>216005260Russians love black people
>>216004711go back lopez
>>216005729curious isn't it?
>>216004566>Le honorary scientistsI'm not vouching for Spain as the best scientists but seriously who gives a fuck dork? Everyone knows it's a gatekept industry with people stealing from each other left and right. Tesla & Edison were just notable examples.
>>216007155Varg went to France because his wife is from there, and he can leech off the social security system.
>>216009215This is a weak take but all these Spanish threads are really gay
>>216004566too busy breeding south american natives
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>>216004719protties were much, much more eager to burn people on stakes than catholics ever werethe oh so scary fanatical Spanish Inquisition sentenced like 5 people per year to death (likely deserved) and like 90% of the arrested were deemed innocent and let freemurderous Inquisitors are a dumb popcultural meme with 0 basis in reality, look this shit uphalf of the torture machines they're usually portrayed with were never in use either
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>>216005059I have seen discussions on french twitter and its even more racialized than the american/anglo counterpart.A white talking shit about other white in favour of a nafri or black will get called out as a uncle tom, and they constantly whine about nafris and blacks or police each other race.They 100% do talk about whiteness.In the Uk they also talk a lot about race.Only in latin america people pretends to be raceblind because we are all mutts
Frankly I prefer chill and friendly Spanish to autistic Germans. They had more scientists and engineers per capita, but they used them exclusively for the evil shit like killing children in gas chambers. Morality and empathy are more important than scientific output. Would you feel comfortable living in a country surrounded by people who think it's normal to kill children in gas chambers and produce gloves and furniture out of human skin?
>>216004711You can dislike the term white without being a drooling retard about it.
>>216005274okayish?
>>216009656>>A white talking shit about other white in favour of a nafri or black will get called out as a uncle tom, and they constantly whine about nafris and blacks or police each other race.not that poster but you're talking about a different concept of whiteness here, the more widely used modern american one I guess, with whites=europeans, arabs, blacks, browns and asians. Not the /int/ one based of physiognomy, hair, eye and skin color.The one you're talking about does absolutely exist here but it is a fruit of recent American influence.As he and I already said, a native, ethnic Italian will be treated the same no matter they be dark or light. A white af German will not be treated better cause he's whiter but he will be treated like a German, so badly, same for a dark one mind you.
>>216009656and maybe in France they do have more /int/ style racial dynamics, I honestly don't know.
>>216009896Thats not exclusionary to whiteness.Africans can recognize and dissociate themselves from whites while also mantaining tribal feuds proper to their own regional substructure.Even in the era of 20-19th century anthropology there was a conception that there was different white groups and different ethnicities, but when confronted to other races or in the colonies they were deemed a common thing.It's very obvious europeans do use whiteness because the conceot of whiteness all people in all colonies have is rooted on European racism.The "white = blond and blue eyed" is a nordicist mytheme that was spread to make nazis less palatable to the general public after the war (ironically it comes from gobineau)
>>216004566Santiago Ramon y Cajal (father of neuroscience). Basically discovered the foundations of neuroscience in late 1800s and won nobel prize in 1906. Basically a histopathology god. I think he also discovered some tracts as well but I digress. >>216005165saaar
>>216009916I do believe italians deem people more germanic than themselves foreign and is obvious that pigmentation is not the first giveaway for ethnicity (this is neither the case is america)What you say is that people tends to associate with their local phenotypes (duh) because naturally there is a regional segregation of phenotypes in europe.That doesn't mean its not exclusionary to say, syrians and bantus, and there is certain hierachy favouring other europeans even then.
>>216010002who?
>>216009978>Thats not exclusionary to whiteness.didn't want to imply that>It's very obvious europeans do use whitenessas I said, I agree, hell I'll even say that you're right, we did use it as a term to differentiate European from natives in the colonies.But itt we were discussing I think the /int/ / nordic style idea of whiteness, not the Spanish one. White and blanco/bianco are mean two different things to me.It's not just a myth though, if you talked to enough Nordics or Germanics in the real world you'd find plenty that don't believe in your idea of pan whiteness, we and them outside of the white/european term believe to ourselves to be completely different people generally speaking, not muh white brothers.>>216010064all that said this post is closer to the argument I and the other poster were making, it would take a very different ethnicity to be subjected to racism here, and a Syrian looking person would face zero racism here. I had an ethnic Italian friend that was legit dark, he didn't look local at all skin tone wise and nobody gave a fuck or treated him badly.a bantu or an east asians are gonna stick out too much, since there's nothing even remotely close to that in Italy, so they'll be often treated like foreigners.
>>216010392>It's not just a myth though, if you talked to enough Nordics or Germanics in the real world you'd find plenty that don't believe in your idea of pan whiteness, we and them outside of the white/european term believe to ourselves to be completely different people generally speaking, not muh white brothers.?
>>216010438>>216010392fucking img resize kek
>>216010452what? I'm sure there are a lot of Europeans that believe the pan whiteness thing, but I said plenty, not all.Also Napoleone was Ital-....southern French and wanted to create a giga European empire, it wouldn't have much sense for him to be anal about race.
>>216004711Bro saying like they didn't fight a world war over it
>>216010512as soon as nonwhites move in europeans start talking about white or nonwhitethey just use dogwhistles
>>216010438>>216010452 >>216010512The „white” Napoleon referenced is tied to the system (—) of power, not the skin pigmentation per se. Skinwhites/Albinos that favor feudalism or power structures similar to feudal order, are no different than the lowest slave/serf, alongside the „owner” or master. If whiteness was about skin, there wouldn't have been a revolution & deposing of the monarchy/feudalism. I can't speak for the dead or the context more than a republican Frenchman could, but I know he communicated in a double meaning, overt & covert signalling.
>>216004566I have no idea, but if Brazil is anything to go by, the political system in Iberia incentivizes smart young people to go into bureaucracy rather than into any kind of constructive pursuit. In Brazil we have literal MIT graduates who choose to become civil servants, because it pays so much better, and is overall so much more comfortable than actually doing some real work. I too am studying to become a civil servant.
>>216004711What this france anon says is true and anyone protesting isn't white
>>216004711truthnuke
>>216007485>It's funny how he used to call people with brown hair non-White subhumans, but then one of his kids came out with ithe probably hates that kids guts lmao>you little nigger! why didn't you come out platinum blond like me!?!!
