>>216008032
Just pay the bill incel

>>216008032
>I provide good company
They really aren't very interesting to talk to most of the time

>>216008081
>You should always pay for everything
>Let them max out credit cards

Just hit the gym and stop pretending you are too good to watch sportsball nigga it aint rocket science

Your problem is that you listen to what women say and you actually believe them.

>>216008032
Honestly, if they expect all that money and providing from you, why not just fuck hookers? In both cases they'll be in for your wallet only

>>216008112
If she's struggling there's no point being autistic over a $30 bill

>>216008136
That's the thing a hooker is cheaper

Dudes pay $400 to fuck hookers. You should be willing to pay $40 to maybe fuck a non-hooker.

>>216008119
>cant get a job? Ht the gym vroo
>no money? Hit the gym bro
>short? Hit the gym bro
>ugly? Hit the gym bro
>depressed? Hit the gym bro
>indian? Hit the gym vroo
>zutted? Hit the broo gym
>shitty parents? Hit the gym broo
>low iq? Hit the gym broo
>hitting the gym vro? Just git the gym broo
>hitting the gym didnt work? Just keep shitting thr gym broo :)

>>216008151
100 dollars a month invested for 50 years will make you a millionaire.

>>216008136
But the family structure, the courtship, the social contract, the birth rates, the institution of marriage, the civilization

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>>216008151
>>216008190
Post pussy

>>216008032
>I just want a trad wife!
but also, split the bill and have sex with me

>>216008151
if she's struggling to pay billsnwhy is she going on dates?

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>>216008032
>yikes
like she isnt the one with the red flags lmao

>>216008136
yea man I don't get why most homies out there keep using dating apps instead of going to escorts. supposedly you are on a dating app to get a quick fuck and they are incredibly inefficient for 95% of the males. if it is relationship you are looking for, you are in the wrong place and should try harder in real life.

>>216008271
No I want it to be equal not trad wide

>>216008369
Well then date a feminist. Chick in the OP is clearly looking for a provider.

>>216008032
He sounds fucking insufferable.

>>216008413
so are feminists, feminists believe in male gender roles while hating female gender roles. Ask a feminist to split the bill and they'll started bullshitting about makeup.

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>>216008032
You're actually retarded. She offered you the chance to play the joke, but you had to incelspeak, didn't you?

this only happens in online dating lolololol everyone let's point and laugh at the mr. retard who fell for the bait

>>216008448
What joke?

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>>216008112
>I am a pathetic liberal who isn't man enough to be the provider of the potential household
People like you are part of the problem in my country.

>>216008472
You joke about going to McDonald's or Wendy's.

>>216008032
Why are you hitting on grannies vro?

>>216008516
I don't think her refusing to split the bills was a joke, if it was then I don't understand female humour
>>216008486
providers were also the masters of their house, they had final decisions on matters affecting the family. Being a "provider" to a woman who doesn't submit to your authority is just being a simp.

>>216008032
>guys look at how I OWNED this stupid womoid with my catty clapback!!
feminine behavior, just transition already

>>216008564
>putting your foot down on foid shenanigans is actually feminine behaviour!
lol

>>216008559
No shit that's the point. You provide because you are the master. You're never going to get to your end goal if you aren't willing to spend a couple dollars on fucking food. If you're a man and you're making your date pay for their meal, honestly just fucking cut your dick off at that point because the world doesn't need your spawn, worthless maggot.

>>216008032
What the fuck is she supposed to say? Is she supposed to offer him sex?

Is she supposed to split the bill then? Ok. If you want to split the bill I guess you aren't expecting her to be a tradwife who submits to you, since you don't plan on being a trad husband. You know what the real problem with all this bullshit is? Besides the fact that he cut the conversation to this so he could share it on social media, and is obviously hostile and probably had no interest in actually talking to her except to drop the BASED HECKIN REDPILL on twitter or whatever?
The problem is everyone being so fucking wrapped up in their own heads and what they've read on the internet that they just can't be normal people anymore. They can't just go on a fucking date and be normal, it has to be a negotiation, a passive aggressive diplomatic mission to decide how the relationship should be before it even starts. Pathetic, sad, someone needs to turn off the internet

>>216008559
SHE WAS TEASING YOU, YOU FUCKING AUTIST. It's what women who are interested in you do. That's why she put the laughing faces in. Your response should have been, "I know the best spot in town for McDonald's Value Meals :laughingface: :laughingcryingface:."

You failed the test of being able to run with her joke

>>216008032
>>you need to look like a model
>>You need to make a shitload of money
>>Somehow be a provider and give them all the attention
>>Have to break your back
>>Also do chores and pay for everything
>>Be 6ft4
>>Drive nice car
>>Own a nice house or condo
If every women you meet is expecting this of you than you're meeting with the wrong woman.

>>216008032
You don't need all those things. You probably just got rejected and now feel sad. It's okay, you were supposed to learn how to deal with these emotions when you were 14. You'll get over it.

>>216008640
>just keep being her personal clown like a real man bro

tl:dr, OP is a fucking moron and this is a moron thread. If you're White, don't post here.

>men have to approach
>men have to take the initiative
>men have to handle rejection and humilliation
>men have to jestermaxx
>men have to always pay and have money
>men have to make plans
>women just need to exist

before I met my wife and got married I always invited girls out for dinner and payed for them because it was the easiest way for me to have sex with them and I was no longer young enough where I could pull off arranging to have sex via texting beforehand or cheap dates like meeting up at a park or a museum

However if a girl said before hand "you're paying" I'd feel offput and drop her as well because bringing up before hand that the man is paying increases the chance that she is just one of those girls who goes out on dates to get dinner even with men she knows she won't fuck.

So the guy in the OP probably made the right decision.
even though I used to spend tonnes of money trying to get pussy by feeding them and giving them wine.

>>216008032
>in America
is there a country that isn't like this

>>216008730
no one said you HAVE to do these things, this is just a strawman you made up in your malding head.

>>216008699
>getting upset at being teased by a women
Virgin freak post

>>216008586
>arguing with a woman in Hinge chat is putting your foot down
The absolute state of modern "men"

>tech startup

lmao the average normie thinks this means he's successful and not a braindead new grad making $12/hr and """stocks""" in a worthless fraud company

>>216008598
>You provide because you are the master.
If your woman doesn't submit to you then you're not her master, you're her moneybag.
>You're never going to get to your end goal if you aren't willing to spend a couple dollars on fucking food
You can spend millions of dollars on a feminist from the start of a relationship, she's still not going to submit to you, why would she? You're acting as her pay-simp from the start while she doesn't have ro submit to you at all. In fact, she knows she holds all the power in a marriage because she can just divorce rape you and take half of your assets if you don't keep acting like a pay-simp.
>>216008640
>SHE WAS TEASING YOU,
How is giving orders while acting se some bossy bitch teasing? Maybe it's teasing to a simp who expects to be walked all over in a relationship.
>>216008699
this lol.

>>216008032
This is bullshit.

I’m a 30 year old dead end job retail worker with 7k debts and some girls tried to approach me.

There are a LOT of women that wouldn’t date you but there are always some that would.
And I think it’s universally true whenever you are.

>>216008781
He's setting his boundaries.
>state of modern "men"
not being your simp, seethe more.

>>216008827
This advice is wasted on shut in losers with no hobbies or friends whose only chance at meeting women is through apps.

>>216008827
this and you also form better bonds with girls from your own kind of socioeconomic background

they were raised in the same culture and they know your struggle

>>216008760
>if you dont like being disrespected by wonen...you're not le cool sex guy!!!

>>216008810
Giving orders? What are you talking about you runt? She teased him about cheap dating and referenced back to his job -- meaning she was interested and had been paying attention to what he was saying. She makes a joke, and you make a joke back. It's that simple.

>>216008760
it's called having dignity and self-respect, maybe you had it at some point before you became a simp.

>>216008810
How was the woman in OP a feminist? She's making it known that she wants OP to take a more traditional, conservative approach. And where the hell is all of this divorce assets shit coming from? It's a fucking date dude.

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>>216008844
I'm not going to waste my time replying to you after this, but holy fuck I hope this is all just bait.
>setting boundaries
>putting his foot down
YOU DON'T DO THIS IN THE DATING APP CHAT YOU OBTUSE RETARD. This is stuff you work out once you're actually in a relationship, not because you've even met the woman in person.
Stop mindlessly repeating buzzwords the influencers you're using in place of a father figure told you and actually go out and meet women IRL. That's when you're supposed to determine if they're a good fit for you. But you won't do that, because face to face confrontation scares you.

>>216008894
>She teased him about cheap dating
By just stating she's not splitting bills? She only explained that she's broke AFTER he pushed back on her initial "tease". She then referenced his money as to why he should pay for the entire date, no doubt that she planned to leach off of him as soon as she saw his job.

@216008888
@216008898
Uppity virgin freaks

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>>216008032
Uhm Gen Z sisters?
You're footing the bill cuz you make more now

>>216008112
This is the reality of relationships for almost all non-chads BTW. Constantly working and being bossed around so your fat gf/wife can buy another purse.

OP isn't wrong

I don't know why but here in the states I get no attention from women outside of fat chicks. And it's not even autism, I actually have a lot of female friends but none that want anything further than that.

On the other hand with latina women, I get constant attention. My current and previous GFs wonder how the fuck I have no luck with women; hell, even one of my female friends was like wtf when I told her I have only had like 3 girlfriends in 28 years of life (with only the current one being attractive).

Maybe it has to do with being short (5'5") and nerdy but it's just fucking rough in this country. It's partly because of this I have an Argentinian gf.

>>216008907
>How was the woman in OP a feminist?
It's called common sense. She's a young, dyed haired woman on a dating app, do you really expect me to believe she didn't seethe over Roe v Wade and Kamala losing the election?

And anyway, she's a woman on a dating app, her body count is probably in the double digits. Do you really believe expect me to believe that such a woman wants a traditional relationship?

Aww he's scared of directly quoting me

>>216008941
That's why you joke about taking her to McDonald's. You're saying, "okay, you're being cheap? I'll be cheap."

>>216009010
> I have only had like 3 girlfriends in 28 years of life
now try 0, chief.

Umm cool sex brit cuck bros?? Did someone just call is an non chad who gets bossed around?

>>216009047
two of them were mid AF and mistakes. the current one is worth it but she lives thousands of miles away from me. Not really an enviable position my friend

>>216009015
>hair dye + young = pro-choice slut
lol

>>216008032
Mexican women are honestly so nice

>>216009015
>"hey, you're cute, I'll go on a date with you but money's a little tight right now so you'll have to cover me"
>"Reeeee I bet you voted for Kamala and have had multiple abortions you stupid fucking slut bitch fuck you"

What the fuck is wrong with you guys no wonder you never get laid

>>216009127
>but money's a little tight right now so you'll have to cover me"
I wouldn't have said anything about Kamala or abortions in that context, I would have told her to get off of dating apps and get a job

>>216009127
It's not even that, she's signaling that she doesn't want to go to somewhere fancy and could do a local dive bar and maybe trashy food afterwards, but the VFs ITT, can't grasp that.

>>216009127
Paying for dates as a man is fine and is honestly preferable to soulless relationships that split the bill (UNLESS the girl is a doctor/lawyer/etc., then it's fine)

But you don't want to date someone who feels entitled to not paying and demands to be treated like a princess. you want someone normal who will want to make it up for you in one or another if you catch my drift. does that make sense?

>>216009189
Her first line makes me think that autismus maximus in OP brought it up first as a precondition for any date

>>216009182
nowhere in the conversation did she mention going anywhere cheap, you'll just bend over backwards to defend any woman

>>216009354
LOL
You can't read subtext, can you? She's inviting discussion of places to go and communicating "find us somewhere that my broke arse can afford".

>>216009472
lmao
Anything to make a woman look good, give her all the benefit of the doubt

>>216008032
i flew to my wife in another country (we’re both white, nigger) 3x over 4 weeks before we had sex. i tried she was just nervous and it took awhile. didnt spend much money in food but plane tickets and hotels arent cheap. now we have 2 kids and want to have a third but its chaotic atm. if my behavior mirrored this autistic shit id die childless like you will op
you lead everything, you pay everything, she gets pregnant and raises the kids. thats the deal
any girl that will split the bill is unironically nightmare material that id block, minus maybe some weird virgin who just thinks she should (doesnt exist maybe)

both are fags
she's obviously using him for free food, he's just obnoxious and oblivious

>>216009508
I can shit on women, but this isn't one of them. OP bungled it, and you're defending his failure to understand teasing.

I'm glad I didn't fall for the woman meme in my 20s.

>>216009545
why would a beggar like the woman in OP think they're in a position to tease?
>>216009511
notice how you had to leave America to find a trad woman, American woman won't split the bill but they're in no way trad, they want gender roles for men, but none for women.

>>216009603
Making shit up again? Women tease you. You tease back. That's normal behavior. It's called flirting.

>>216008032
jeez u fucking faggot, u buy her a dinner in a nice restaurant and u get to fuck, u think she would be ok taking a dick for a burger?

>>216009676
prostitutes are cheaper and generally prettier than the average tinder roastie

>clowning to women is normal behavior in the uk
Grim

>>216008237
candice...

>idiots here arguing that she's a tradwife
lmao. That's a feminist. A tradwife wouldn't argue with him or shame him (yikes)
A tradwife would attempt to have a normal conversation about gender roles or simply break it off. Shaming is a red flag

>>216010068
what do you mean the dyed-haired woman on a dating app isn't tradwife-material ?!?

>>216008032
I am 100% pro paying bill if she's 110% pro being a non feminist

>>216008032
bodied that gold digger

>>216008032
To be fair i see this kind of attitude way more as a degenerate who fishes for old ladies amongst those same busted old ass ladies than I do among younger girls my own age.

Look, theres a reason a woman like in the OP is still on fucking dating apps above age 28.

>>216008213
You don't know what the gym does for you if you've never been
Whenever someone says 'go to gym' it's valid advice. Movement and being outdoors will motivate you to solve your problems

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>>216008620
The internet has skewed the worldview of people because of constant often true horror stories and rage bait engagement farming. Now every guy has a defensive wall lest he be called a creep and exposed on tiktok.

>>216010445
there's no gym for height

>>216010508
>if I can't be literally perfect there's no point in trying at all
Unironically kill yourself. You sound like a massive burden on everyone you meet.

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>>216010539
Is passing a minimum bar of attractiveness to women considered being "perfect"?

>>216010558
You're right. It's hopeless. You should just kill yourself.

>>216010616
calm down, roastie

>>216008032
get off tinder and go outside

>>216010629
No, man, you're seriously right. It's so over. It's never been more over than it is right now. You should just kill yourself.

>>216010663
roastie toastie

Just take her to cheesecake factory

>>216008151
if she's struggling she should be glad to get a mcchicken for free
t. struggling

Sorry ranjeet but you need to do a little dance to get a white girl. Even if you are CEO Saaar

>>216010616
>looksmaxx make more money work harder get surgery get a promotion be more social touch grass go outside have friends have abs own house be funny charming confident never show weakness etc etc etc
No
>errrrm, then I guess it's just hopeless for you isn't it little chudcel??
Yes
>erm, then uh, kill yourself! You have no reason to live might as well die!!
No

>what are you offering
If you want sex just pay a prostitute you fucking faggot

>>216010868
He’a right though, she should be enjoying the conversation too.

>>216008888
>>216008898
if you feel disrespected by a woman, just ignore her. Attention is all they want, stop giving her attention after she disrespects you. No need to lower yourself to her level by writing some bitchy comeback, at that point you are no different than a woman yourself

>>216010868
Are you implying the guy is offering a bad company?

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>yikes
Dropped. She lost the game before she started

>>216008032
>Dating is just so fucking unbearable in America
yeah, but that's primarily because your system of 'dating' is so fucked
>we're gonna go on a million dates before we know whether we're a couple or not
nigga, fuck off

>>216008032
You lost the moment you replied after she called you "Mr. Tech Startup"

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>>216010945
Please tell me how dating works in your country? I’m so disillusioned

>>216008151
>$30 bill
there's no restaurant on earth that cheap

>>216010954
this, she revealed she thought OP was her meal ticket

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>>216008032
Stop dating broke women

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>>216008151
If she is struggling there is no point in her being precious about sex.

I am a proeminent figure in the incel culture in my country
Have a podcast where I explain in great detailthe scientific blackpill

>>216008097
this is really the main problem. women really don't have anything else to offer other than their bodies.

All the simps and dating apps made women realize their true SMV, if they just want to fuck no chad will reject any normal looking woman, if they are looking for a long term commitment (meaning exclusivity in exchange for financial support) then dating is precisely the way to aproximarte a man's financial SMV, there's no point on dating a rich guy if he's not taking care of you

most of these women are on tiktok getting dating advice from other women about how they should never have to pay for anything.

if a grown ass woman with a job is expecting you to pay for everything run

>>216010445
I go to the gym thrice a weeek

>>216010558
6 feet is an american thing. For you europoors it's generally 180cm which is actually 5'11. The only reason why women say 6 feet is because the human brain likes rounded numbers. You don't say "Hey I'm going to be 11 minutes and 47 seconds late" you say "Hey I'm going to be 10 minutes late." If we used your measuring system women would be fine going with 5'11 men. Women don't want tall men, they want men taller than them.

>>216008732
>payed for them
I sincerely doubt that. Even if every single one had a boat why on earth would the deck need to be resealed that often?

>>216008898
>dignity and self-respect
m8 you're sat in your underpants picking dried cum out of your bellybutton at midnight on a sunday, what dignity?

>reee I don't like manning up and paying for dates we have to split the bill since it's the feminist thing to do m'lady, anyways, does anyone have any soymilk?

>>216010854
Holy based

>>216008979
>call them women
>call us boys
Hmmm I'm a fledgling nooticer...

>>216008032
>Dating

After the jews created xvideos women are obsolete
Just jerk off and go play Genshin Impact dumb ass American

>>216008032
> girl is hinted that shes broke and literally can't pay for restaurant
> dude is a wealthy codemonkey
> waaaah she's a mercantile whore just like all of them

>>216008112
If a woman likes you than you can be as cheap as you want. my first date with my wife was treating her to the McValue menu at McDonalds. I even make it a thing to give her a Jr Chicken on our anniversary along with whatever we plan to do for the date.

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I hate human biology with every fiber of my being.
I hate that humans are a violent, cruel species by design.
I hate that intimacy is nothing more than evolutionary strategy, a dance written in genes and survival instincts.
Choice is an illusion we are prisoners of our wiring.
For so many, the game was rigged before it even began.

If countless souls are condemned to live without love, then maybe humanity deserves its extinction.

>>216011381
trvth black hole

I'm 5'5"

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>>216010068
>what is nagging
Shaming is peak trad-wife. A feminist would discuss gender roles.

>>216011151
>manning up
Either a roastie or a tradcvck

>>216011634
im 5'5 AND brown

>>216011977
>a roastie would be busy making green texts on the frog forum
how new are you?

>>216008112
>>Let them max out credit cards
nah bro just pay dinner

>>216008032
someone like that is just a shitty person not worth your time
the best thing you can do is call her a gold digger and ghost her the moment she says "we ain't splitting"
otherwise they're not gonna learn

>>216012462
r9k has been twken over by foids

>>216012671
r9k is one of the most normie infested boards here

>>216012671
>gets taken over by foids
>can't stop posting gay sex and how men are ignoring them because they're all gay or something.

>>216008151
the opposite actually
retard

>>216008271
This bitch is not trad by any stretch of the imagination and doing whatever they ask just emboldens them to be giant cunts

>>216008413
No retard, she's looking for free shit and an easy mark.

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>>216010558
wait those apps have height filters now? so if you list yourself under whatever arbitrary number they want then you're essentially shadowbanned.

>>216008032
Just go for fat latinas. They will be eternally grateful.

>>216008151
it's $30 for two fucking drinks these days man
have you been living under a rock

>>216011150
You're browsing the same board at the same time as everyone else here, cool sex guy. Maybe stop larping and look in the mirror for once lmfao

>>216011306
Yeah no shit. She isn't even trying to charm this loser, just
>I have no money, you buy me shit

>>216011306
if she's broke she should have suggested a walking date

>>216008032
Kek op is a fag who wont be having sex tonight

>>216008032
It's unbearable everywhere else. Every online dating is just 95% of women chasing after top 3% most attractive men. It's fucked up

>>216011130
which is even funnier when you consider the difference in average height between europe and America

>>216012671
Like most Britroaches, you're nothing more than a self-hating, paki-loving, Labour-voting leftist cunt

>>216013811
>you're nothing more than a self-hating, paki-loving, Labour-voting leftist cunt

no I'm not, you pathetic spammer.

>>216013583
It might've been a paid feature.

Regardless, the statistic is completely inaccurate because it fails to take into account the women who do not use said filter. People who care less about height don't bother using the filter because it's optional. So the graph consists solely of women who care enough about height to use the filter, so is it so surprising that most of them use it to filter out short men rather than tall men?

>>216013840
Damn, a well reasoned take here.