always Macedonia edition
>>216008787>>216008808>>216008816https://www.youtube.com/shorts/q0Y8cMgAg04Reminder Naval overhaul in the next expansion
just finished watching this
it's pretty clear at this point that the zutt meme is just a jewish psyop right
>>216008864hows it?
>Jean-Luc Godard
We seriously created the assassin-robot hounds from Fahrenheit 451 and see no problem with that huh.
>>216008895You have to take Zutt in it's historical context. Back then it was normal in Arab society to get ass fucked by dark skinned men. Like his slavery, we must take Mohammed getting ass fucked in context of the norms of the time.
The newest IP I know of popular among children is Minecraft. Not a single new thing since then.
>>216008940don't they like roblox too
*shoots you*
>>216008961¡ay caramba!
I feel bad for "Americans" who don't live in New England.
>>216008935It's extremely common AS OF NOW for men to buttfuck each other in extremely repressive Muslim countries, seeing as all the women are locked up and it's a complete sausage fest everywhere you go.
Interesting
>>216008961*slices your bullet in half with my katana*
>>216008934>"we" created the assassin-robot hounds from Fahrenheit 451>"we" see no problem with that
>>216009003% household ownership doesnt mean much there are more guns than peoplethe lefties in cali are more than capable of sharing amongst one another
REAL NEW>>216009000>>216009000
>>216008934both F451 and 1984 were superior to BNWBNW simps annoy me
one time i got cockblocked at work by a pack of fat repuplican blue-collars talmbout "we need to return this furniture"
>>216009028What makes West Virginia so gun-happy?
>>216009028They will die as soon as you destroy their avocado production
>>216009053Conceptually Brave New World is better than F451 but the book itself feels unfinished. 1984 is still the GOAT though.
>>216009069scots-irish heritage, frontier legacy, poverty esp after de-industrialization, mountain landscape, racism, christianity
>>216008916bit pointless desushot well and I like the type throughoutthere's some poignant bits but also a lot of mundane nothingness
>>216009069Does that make Britain is gun-sad?>>216009097The problem with 1984 is that the leftard society is very technologically advanced. Atlas Snored at least gets de-industrialization and regression right
>>216009082then we'll just have to invade the avocado jungle in Colombia>>216009097>Conceptually Brave New World is better than F451 but the book itself feels unfinished. 1984 is still the GOAT though.100%
I'm so fucking desperate for sex I may actually fuck the Indian girl I matched with on Tinder
>>216009152dont do it
>>216009152haHA image the genders were reversed
>>216009152Imagine the smell
>>216009138>The problem with 1984 is that the leftard society is very technologically advanced.orwell had both the nazis and soviets in mind when he wrote it. also, the tech isnt that advanced compared to what already existed; for example, no one has achieved nuclear fission, despite little boy being deployed 5 years prior to the books publication
>>216009170Literally impossible
>>216009197I guess it wasn't really that advanced bow that i think about it, although they did have text to speech very early for some reason
im bored
>>216009291>>216009197>text to speechI meant the other way around
>>216009311hi bored
>>216009329hi dad
>>216009291>>216009312>although they did have text to speech very early for some reasoni think the reason is that orwell really wanted to emphasize the manipulation and repression of languagebut you could argue that computer development wasnt invested so heavily in interfaces and entertainment in Oceania as the 80s USAso mass surveillance got an even larger chunk of R & D
Anyone here have a bird? I saw one at the pet store earlier and I fell in love. I know they are high maintenance pets from what I've heard. And they live a very long time.
>father has expensice apartment by colombian standards>shoddy worksmanship visible pretty much everywhere despite the modern design and materials>i took a shower and it almost flooded the entire 2nd floorThis is the worksmanship that americans supposedly can't function without?
>>216009350>>216009291also keep in mind that the party has drastically limited the vocabulary and cognitive abilities of its subjects
>>216009381Are you actually in Culombia?
>>216009197>no one has achieved nuclear fission??????? The book literally mentions that it was a nuclear war between Britain and the USSR which caused the clean break from the past that the Party used to create their new ultra-totalitarian society. (According to Winston's flawed and incomplete memories of his early childhood anyways, but nukes are mentioned in the book.)
should i play scp secret laboratory or dead space 2
>>216009350That makes sense. The ingsoc government was obsessively focused on language and audio surveillance so it makes sense that they would put much effort into developing language recognition software
Describe your eating habits
>>216009444poorfag tier.
sup bros
>>216009421IIRC orwell talks about an endless pursuit by all 3 empires of a world ending ultimate weaponmaybe it was fusion bombs then
>>216009152Do it, just imagine your her colonial masterit's not a permanent thing
>>216009411I am literally physically located in Medelllín, Colombia
tell me what game i should play!!!
I would really appreciate getting a girlfriend and having sex for the first time.
i have refused sex with multiple 30s mids because they were too openly whorish and gross
>>216009479Well idk for sure since it's been well over a decade since I read it.
George Orwell had some good insights to be fair, but he was controlled opposition.
>>216009503doorkickers 2
idk cod or something
>>216009526trash looking game
>>216009503KOTOR!
>>216009404Winston personally used oldspeak and could use a speakwrite just fine
what should i fap to
>>216009518Let's talk about F451 now :) It's the most prescient sci-fi novel after 1984 in my opinion.
>>216009527>>216009544pick one of these two >>216009422
>>216009518I don't think he was controlled opposition, but he wasn't what many now think he was. His collection of newspaper columns are worth reading. For one, he was very against the idea of government legislating against thoughts or speech, but he did claim that people should self-police in order to avoid offending people. I know he said that people shouldn't refer to Muslims as 'Mohammedans', for example, and compared it to Indians referring to Britons as 'Britishers'
>>216009503Darktide
>>216009483First you say you're in El Salvador, now in Colombia. Sorry but I simply don't believe you
I say, "K" now instead of "thousand."
George floyd
>>21600960040k
Colombia has the lowest birth rates in the whole world, yes even lower than Japan and South Korea. And to make matters worse, lots of Colombian mercenaries signed up to die for the Ukraine.
>>216009589I was in el salvadorI went from iceland to new york, to san salvador and i just arrived in medellín
>>216009557I think the concept of books/information being destroyed is going to become more relevant than ever in the AI slop age. Not only because AI slop can be churned out at such a pace that it can make it difficult to find any accurate information, but also the much more sinister potential for AI tools to be turned into surveillance devices to control public thought.Most LLMs are basically glorified search engines, but how many times do you actually scroll down look through all of the results in a Google search? Most people just click one of the first 3 links, but now with Google's AI overview a lot of people aren't even doing that. They're just taking whatever the overview says at face value.That's the future I fear. AI models that can feed people information directly, and whoever controls that information (ie. big tech and their affiliated government agencies) will control how the majority of the people think. AI "assistants" being added to every application and program to monitor what you're writing and nudge you in certain approved direction. Obviously tech already plays a huge part in shaping and controlling public thought with all of the content pushing algorithms out there right now, but the integration of AI will allow for controlled information on a scale never before possible.
>>216009556umm hello??
>>216009623I don't think that's correct
>>216009641did you like nyc
>>216009552he also "remembered" more than the avg citizen.he was from the pre-war generation and still had a latent dissident mindset
>>216009709>>216009552also he was outer party, not a prole
>>216009556>>216009663Asanagi doujins
i haven't masturbated in 2 days im so fucking horny
>>216009738get your dad to suck your cock
honestly its hilarious that some men deliberately blue ball themselves for nnncomplete non-forced error
>>216009703Yes. People say new yorkers are assholes but they seemed nice enough. I went to the natural museum which appeared to bigger than my entire home city and i walked through among giant buildings that had more inhabitants than my entire country, and i also saw central park which was beautiful and had trees that were bigger than any in iceland. I wish i had time to see the cloister
Who you niggas rooting for in the Ethnicity Awards this year!?!!?
>>216009736I've read and fapped to all of them
gonna eat some red velvet cheese cake
>>216009851give me some too
>>216009809>Anglo>Best leading ethnicityThese awards are all fucking rigged
>>216009878what have you frogs done to deserve a nomination this year??
>>216008823
Joseph Joestar is definitely the best Jojo
>>216009809AngloPunjabiAhomZulu-korean
>>216009875you can get it when its done digesting in my tummy and comes out of my ass
>>216009914
>>216009912>AhomI think the Ahomies are gonna sweep the makeup awards for sure
Last night I drank a sickening amount of beer. My head hurts and I’m shitting outrageously!
Cowboys!!
>>216009952Ahomies are my homies
just sperged out on my mom
>>216009979That ought to teach her
left /cum/ for a week, what did I miss?
>>216009953Beer isn't worth the price anymore. Which is moot right now anyways since all the bars and liquor stores are clean out of alcohol.
>>216009953I can handle hangovers all day but the constant diarrhea is unbearable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJSNeaUvero
>>216009996>Which is moot right now anyways since all the bars and liquor stores are clean out of alcohol.why can't canucks afford booze at their bars?
>>216009983Maybe it did. She was asking if I was going to come into the living room and "visit" with anyone today or just stay in my room, and I flipped out and pointed out that no one ever comes to "visit" with me. She said that's because I'm in my bedroom, at which point I pointed out that she and my father always dominate the living room all day, and they have never shown any inclination whatsoever to "visit" with me in there while I was doing my own thing. I'm expected to come in and sit silently while they watch their shows and content. Or at most only discuss the subject matter of said content. It's a one way street.
>>216010010Taxes and unions, is why.
>>216010000diarrhea quads
>>216010024damn that is a legit SPERGOUT
>>216010024>i would like your company>fuck you mom!
>>216010042But surely you can relate on some level, no?
Alright, no more messing around. I'm having sex before this year is over. If I have to act like a clown on dating apps, so be it. If I have to put myself into uncomfortable scenarios, I welcome it. 2025 is going to be my year.
>>216010024you sound like an incel who would murder his parents
>>216010061no lol
>>216010072>>216010077oh all of a sudden you're all the most well adjusted normies, huh?
Consulting with penberg right now before getting in the shower.
>>216010102you sound like you have some major issues and your mom is (rightfully) worried about you...probably worried that you're gonna shoot up the place
>>216010102i definitely dont snap at my parents like that
>>216009809That Palestinian guy looks like the Jewiest Jew of all time. How do they tell each other apart when they're fighting?
>>216010029Hell yeah.
Do you like Abba?
>>216010134he kinda looks like a child molester, like the dictionary definition.
>>216010150i like dancing queen
That's the price of still living at home.
"Do I buy Treasuries when government owes $38tn, corporate bonds with spreads at 20-year lows, stocks trading on a 40x CAPE, or gold that’s just gone vertical? Tricky."
Feeling desperate, might hit up the L Crawler
>>216010150I don’t listen to them very often but they wrote a lot of catchy songs.
>>216010151His name is Richard Hanania and he's an annoying libtard faggot plus also a zionist shill so he's like the worst of both worlds at the same time.
>>216010171https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBiA_po8TYM
>>216010180why do you keep saying variations of this? just do it and stfu
>>216010197that's not me
>>216010192>an annoying libtard faggot plus also a zionist shillwait is he actually palestinian then?
Shower soundtrack:https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwMbJHbPTdVVX9SWsXrFWR4qC21a5uTnh
>>216010208yeah he is
brb gonna goon
ALL MY NIGGAS NAZISNIGGA HEIL HITLER!!!
>>216010259good responsibly beat my dick raw to BBC sissy hypno this morning, it still hurts
Is the gov't genociding ostriches in your cunt?
>>216010134>>216010151
>>216010314ANON stop I dn't think that guy is even human...
>>216010273Me no black papi i'm dominican
>>216010302>my>face>when
>>216009585we need to increase these numbers 100 fold
My butt trumpet is BLASTING
Fish are like birds but in the water.
my bread is proofing
Birds are like the fish of the air. Neither of them are confined to the ground at the bottom of the water/air. Flying is like the equivalent to swimming because you can go up and down.
You knob kneed and sloppy but not meI'm I N D E P E N D E N T
make some posts retards
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Finasteride: takenCreatine: consumedShits: blasted out of my assTeeth: brushedLet’s fucking do this
>>216010575panty status?
>>216010575>Teeth: brushedThanks for reminding me
>>216010597On
>>216010575you're getting ready for bed with a dirty butt? I hope you have a bidet at least
>>216010602
You ever been to a girls house and you just see funky panties hanging out the hamper
You ever been to a girls house
>>216010645yeah I stole her panties too
>>216010623Fuck I knew I was forgetting something
>>216010647did you try them on?
Time to assemble some more night goblins
>>216010645Hello yeah
G*rls are dumb and gross. Men are spiritually, intellectually, and physically superior.
>>216010661of course
>>216010677What would your mother think if she heard you talking like that
>>216010660good leaf :3 go clean up and when you're dressed i'll have a snack for you :)
>>216010687I’m concerned about the nature of this snack.
What so do you guys think of techno-spiritualism or techno shamanism and the like?
As I get older I enjoy music more and more. Wasn't very into music when I was younger.
>>216010696roasted pumpkin seeds and cheese with salami :3
>>216010677I'm going to dress up as an inflatable unicorn costume and protest donald duck tomorrow for shutting the government down and not paying me fuck you and fuck him!!!!!!!!!!
>>216010756gross
>>216010677Hey everybody look we got Schopenhauer ova here
Just got out the shower.
How about instead of Schopenhauer, it's Gropenhauer and he gropes foids
>>216010756Mmm I haven’t had pumpkin seeds in a long time
I want pumpkin bread.
I am taller, whiter, manlier, cooler, smarter, stronger, tougher, faster, handsomer, funnier, more based, more redpilled, more aristocratic, more patrician, and more kino than all of you.
>>216010809Or Copenhauer and he just makes excuses for why he can't get any pussy
>>216010836bet you're 5'11 and spanish
>>216010825How about Pumpkin Head? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbXjA2kdjn4&list=PLAFE81D6A40B2AC76
>>216010851You worship femoids because you are a matriarchal cuck.I am a mysoginist sigma gigachad and this is why I am superior to all of you. >>216010836
>>216010851or Boomhauer and he tell u hwat, man hheehehe hhheh hheeeaya thas riiiight
>>216010851That's just Schopenhauer
>>216010886
Girls are soft and nice
>>216010901Do you have a white girl???????????
>>216010901pussy whipped cucked brown manlet mentality
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2u02vobAo2c&list=RD2u02vobAo2c
>>216010825i would make you some
I took this picture a few hours ago
>>216010737Same, I think it was the 'tism
>>216010937nothing I hate more than live acoustic music, especially in a public setting
Para mi? Tennis. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6kNQEzQJpA&list=RDZ6kNQEzQJpA
https://youtu.be/C-u5WLJ9Yk4MY LONELINESSIS KILLING ME
Canadians are just Americans but gayer and less soul
>>216010959what's their problem
>>216010959Leftists be like: Part & parcel of living in a city, nothing we can do
>>216011007I bought this CD in middle school damn I'm old as shit
>>216011008*whiter and less jewish ftfy
Do you like to move it move it?
>>216011008This is true + they really like to have dog blowjobs too
>>216011019Trudeau getting together with Katy Perry is fitting. They are both retarded. They will make super attractive retard offspring
>>216011011The mexican cartels beaming the need need to use fentanyl to their heads
>>216011019Melanie Joly is Grade A MILF material.
USA should annex Canada and create North American Empire.Mexico won't be part of it. They will be considered South America from now on.
>>216011043are you kidding isn't that guy gay
>>216011061Call it Amerigo, after Amerigo Vespucci
>>216011043Anon...Katy Perry is 41. I don't think she's having children any time soon. Maybe, though, I mean it's possible.
>>216011058agreed, it's a shame she's so retarded
>>216011072definitely would be a down syndrome kid for sure
>216011067
>>216011058She should have a riding crop
>>216011061God forbid.
>>216011068Amerigo wasn't his real name. He got it from the mythology of the Inca civilization in Peru. They had a flying serpent god called Americ. That is the origin of the names Amerigo and America.
>>216011061Best idea ITT ngl. We could make Mexico into a vassal state forced to pay tribute to the NA Empire in order to avoid its complete obliteration. Black Americans would be granted mexican slaves as reparations and racism would officially be over forever and no one could ever reference slavery ever again.
Thinking of going for a walk.
>>216011095It was his real name moron he was named after his grandfather who was also named Amerigo
>>216011107shut up you lying bitch
talmbout some amerigo i'm all bout that americum
>>216011114Why are you lying you Incan revanchist bitch
>>216011095this is not true what are you trying to pull with a troll so stupid
remember the donk on Freeland
>>216011141This is what I am going to do to Freeland if I ever see her in public. This is a legally actionable threat. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cClWps_Vin0
>>216011116>TorontoNo.
how do liberals teach their daughters not to get on trains with feral blacks around? they clearly DO teach them that somehow
Why does Vance wear the eyeliner?
>>216011189libs say that certain places are "sketchy" which is libcode for full of ghetto thugs
>>216011243Sketchy places filled with dicey fellas
>>216011141too much ass
>>216011141Stupid Nazi bitch
>>216011228So faggots like you notice it
OOOOO-HOOOOO TOR-ONTOOOOOOO WHERE OUGHT WE GOOOOO IN TOR-ONTOOOOOO
>>216011303no canadian girls just have really puffy vaginas
>>216011313is this true kinda looks like...BENIS
Balding doesn't matter if you have aura. Otto von Bismarck was bald but he had tremendous aura.
China is Asian GermanyJapan is Asian FranceSouth Korea is Asian Britain
goddamn motherfucking power goes out every time there's the tiniest breath of wind or rain.somehow I have a phone that lets me talk to people on the other side of the planet in real time and even see their face, yet in 2025 AD fucking home electricity and everything that hinges upon it (basically everything we use to exist day to day) comes to a grinding halt the second it sprinkles outside. pretty sure it's intentional at this point.
>>216011350He's not bald in that picture
Rancho Cucamonga
>>216011336you see what you wanna see i guess
Eating leftover spaghetti and meatballs! Yippee!!!
>>216011410lmao canadian "infrastructure"probably maintained by jeets and foids
>>216011376I think Japan is Asian Britain because it's an island country and had an expansionist empire at a point
this is me to that STUPID frogposter who's a real JERK
>>216011415It's a nice place to live surrounded by much worse areas.
>>216011487
Mario looks like Stalin.
>>216011443almost definitely it is, computers control everything and they farm out most of their software to jeets while putting foids in charge of administering energy companies.
YOOOOOO *farts*
>>216011376China is uk, Japan is Germany, sk is Finland, nk is Russia
How bout them sharks
N
>>216011511I can't remember the last time my power went out, a few years ago if I had to guess cause there was a major storm that came through.
>>216011504
>>216011585the sad part is it's probably his half brother
>>216011585>nobody was racist on 4chan before the 2016 election o algoType of post you'd never see on 2015 + 10 years 4channel.org. We lost so much SOVL.
People ask me how I do itI just bite off more than I can chewThen I chew it
>>216011546Mongolia is Belarus.
>that one guy who's theory is that LLM's aren't real and that chatGPT is just a bunch of indians typing things really fucking fast
>>216011680GPT stands for Gujarati-Punjabi Typist
>>216011653Taiwan is Ireland
The track that starts at 1:06:25 goes so freaking hard!!!!!!https://youtu.be/3vwnuOXQUQc
Why are Demoncraps organizing No Kings rallies in Canada, a monarchy, against the elected president of the United States lmaoAlso>American flags everywhere>no French on their signs>“Montrealers”
>>216011766libtards are scared they were hoping to get some momentum out of this, but seems it backfired pretty bad cause everyone was an old boomertard
>>216009069west virginia is entirely encompassed by the appalachian mountains. they're mountain folk. rugged and reclusive.
>>216011766Damn that’s so interesting
truehttps://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1760927967151450.mp4
>>216011766>>216011781>>216011800Check out the track. >>216011731
What are libshits gonna do when drumpf eventually leaves office without resistance? What are they gonna do when JD Vance inevitably wins against the newsome/AOC ticket? Are they just gonna regurgitate the same shit and say JD Vance is a dictator? Will they say drumpf is a dictator because JD Vance is just a proxy for him, even though that may have been the case with Biden and Obama?
Luv me EmprahLuv me PrimarchLuv me Chapter'ate chaos'ate traitors'ate orks (not racist just don't like em)'ate xenosSimple as
>>216011376Japan is Asian BritainSouth Korea is Asian Northern IrelandNorth Korea is Asian Republic of IrelandChina is Asian EURussia is Asian Russia
>>216011840not sure
>>216011766>Why are Demoncraps organizing No Kings rallies in...Stop right there, no matter what country follows, the answer is the same. They just want a headline showing protesters against orangeman around the world, it doesn't matter if 20 people showed up, it's purely for American domestic consumption.
>>216008823I love classic Oreos, but I think golden Oreos might be better.Thoughts?
>>216011843Lot of men are like this all over the world
>>216011840>Are they just gonna regurgitate the same shit and say JD Vance is a dictator?Yes, they said every day for 4 years Drumpf was a fascist... and then he left office. Now that he's back he is really gonna take over the US for real this time. They are never going to stop saying this.
Startling to know there are many Americans who want their own country to fail just to validate their own self fulfilling hatred against their leader
On my walk now. Shit, I really should have eaten before I left. I'm gonna get some beers but I didn't bring my wallet so I hope they don't want to ID me hahahaha.
>>216011886Not just fail either, catastrophically fail, sometimes even hoping for mass bloodshed. Mfers really thought political polarization and hyper-partisanship was just gonna magically stop at some point.
>>216009988>dubs>nutting>autismTruly the /cum/mest post of all /cum/mers.
I was fine after the party, is when I got back and had some beers that did me in, should've had only one
kick out all pakis and arabics please. too much of these types of browns.
and also remove womens rights.
>>216011933erm how about NO browns!!
>>216011840>Are they just gonna regurgitate the same shit and say JD Vance is a dictator?I’m old enough to remember them regurgitating the same hysterical LITERALLY HITLER bullshit about Orange Man, Romney, McCain, and Bush. The individual candidate doesn’t matter at all. I would be shocked if they didn’t go with the same playbook again with Poojeeta’s husband.
>>216011933>>216011952>>216011953Based chads.
>>216011953pakis and arabics have to go first. i go outside, and its all i see.
>>216011957>I’m old enough to remember them regurgitating the same hysterical LITERALLY HITLER bullshit about Orange Man, Romney, McCain, and BushWhat's funny is when they do that "well if you elected a moderate candidate we wouldn't call them a fascist!" bit but they still call everyone a fascist no matter what. (See Scheer or O'Toole for the Canadian versions)
>>216011995wow great stuff
you are brown. a dark skin.
>>216012012Glad (you) appreciated it
>>216011995>but they still call everyone a fascist no matter what. (See Scheer or O'Toole for the Canadian versions)Those two are very funny examples of calling moderates “fascists.” A couple of cucked obese faggots. They didn’t stand their ground on a single issue when pressed.
Right wing e-celeb tier list>Supreme tierVox Day>High tierMorgothAlex JonesKeith WoodsColonel Douglas Macgregor>Pretty good tierVarg VikernesThe Golden OneSurvive The JiveSam Hyde>Mediocre tierJordan PetersonJason Jorjani>Shit tierBen Shapiro
Alex Jones is the OG, also one of the funniest guys ever
>>216012037>Colonel Douglas MacgregorEvery prediction I've seen this guy make has been wrong
>>216012037We love are Morgoth don’t we folks
Who gives a fuck
>>216011141just noticing now that women with no ass are like men with man boobs. disgusting and unhealthy.
>>216012052(no example)
>>216012036That's my point. The most bland, inoffensive, red tories possible who backed down on everything and they are STILL called fascists or far right by both the rank and file leftoids & outlets like the CBC. Proof it has nothing to do with reality.
>>216012064At the beginning of the invasion he kept predicting Ukraine would fall in 2 weeks
>>216012074Yeah?
>>216011860>>216012012>>216012081Who's bot is this?
for me? i predicted the war in ukraine would be fought to it's logical conclusion which is a years long grind where ukraine eventually loses more and more territory ever so slowly and then finally sues for peace when there's nothing left to fight with.still think I'm the most validated position
>>216012093good job anon
>>216012093>He didn't account for the Georgian second front when the Neo-Ataturkians seize power from Erdogan in 2027Classic mistake
RECYCLE >>216009000RECYCLE >>216009000RECYCLE >>216009000
>>216012093Wtf does sue for peace mean
>>216012093That was generally the consensus opinion from neutral analysists though.
>>216012116oh man you shoulda seen redditleaf and that pole leaf sperg out about it though lmao they were full on Ghost of Kyiv level propagandized, saying ukraine would win back crimea and all this stupid shit
>>216012134>Brown redditor and butthurt belt slavNot surprising that either of them are/were like that
