americans can buy giant 5 bedroom houses for 200k
>>216010932In Mississippi where the wage is 30k a year for rich persons
>>216010932>Gary, INYou're just asking to be shot and home invaded at that point
>>216011009why
>>216011020you know whythat's why you made this threaddon't play dumb canuck
those bedrooms must be small
>>216011026tell the class anon
>>21601107399% black
>>216010932I'm sure you can find big homes for similar prices in dilapidated Detroit neighbourhoods where half your neighbours are crack dealers and addicts
>>216011210americans will complain about housing prices but its literally just them being racist and refusing to even consider living around black people
>>216011292>americans will complain about housing pricesmad we're getting in on your favorite hobby?
>>216011292you know what i just thought you can get a real cheap place in Africa! why dont we all move there??
>>216011292It's more a case of wanting to feel safe, and refusing to entertain housing that's in a palce with even a slightly higher crime rate than what they're used to.Same situation with why people drive trucks and SUVs. All a race to the bottom.
>>216011343>words words wordslet me guess you also consider yourself liberal
I guess you can find something similar in Canada if you look for a frozen desert up north
>>216011481you cant.
>>216011450Holy shit are you that dumb that you can't process any amount of nuance?And why make it about idpol shit? Did the culture war melt your brain already?
>>216011292Gary is pretty infamous here
>americans complain about expensive housing>look on zillow>affordable houses everywhereYou're just too entitled.
>>216010932$210,000 for that piece of crap??
>>216010932OP is trolling, but for those actually wondering, it's that affordable because Gary legitimately has one of the highest crime rates in North America.
>>216011558kek
>>216011558Is this considered a good buy down there?Because if so I'm actually really sorry for you guys and I shouldn't have bullied and baited you over the Falklands so much you genuinely live in squalor.
>>216011292gary indiana has a very bad reputation even among shithole cities in the states.its basically a smaller version of detroit. US steel declined dramatically in the 1960s which hurt the city tremendously. then there were race riots due to the killing of MLK followed by an election of a black mayor which opened the floodgates to white people leaving.the city never recovered. most of the country now knows it as a cards against humanity card
>>216011558That isn't the true price. Zillow doesn't include backtaxes owed to the state, which are owed against the house's title. Because the state won't pay them to itself, that $4000 house is more like $40000 or $50000 with the previous owner's unpaid taxes considered. And yes you are required to pay up front no negotiation because the taxes are against the Title not the property itself. Which means the Title makes the property completely worthless, causing it to rot until it is worthless, which is when the state accepts it as a total loss and rezones the Lot into a larger Parcel. Thing is, in Detroit this isn't done with just individual homes. It happens to entire blocks when the utility service underneath (also not covered by zillow) breaks. Which means the actual cost to buy that home is $100,000 or $150,000 just to rebuild the water, sewer and power lines into it. Michigan knows this and it's why any area that has too much abandoned property everyone is just given checks to leave so it can be safely demolished.Haven't even talked about the arson problem or black people hiding in these things but you can probably guess that nothing good comes from having five or six unknown groids smoking crack on your street shitting in buckets and breaking into anything unlocked.
>>216010978Better than here
im fascinated about decaying american cities. crazy that places like that exist in the richest country of the world.
>>216011906Not that surprising, it’s just the ghost town phenomenon but in an urban setting. There used to be money and jobs there and when those dried up people moved elsewhere.
>>216011906Detroit hasn't been rich since the 1940s, which was 80 years ago. Michigan is a shithole and so is Chicago. But the truth is Chicago is doing a lot better now, mostly at Detriot's expense, because the bottom finally fell out when the entire auto industry went bankrupt in 2008 which also caused Detroit, the city, to go bankrupt. Chicago had it bad in the 70s and 80s but they never actually ran out of money. NYC almost ran out of money, but managed to save it. Detroit actually DID run out of money and suddenly there were no cops, jails or firemen anymore. Every devil's night (like halloween but for black people) groups of nigs would go around lighting random shit on fire and burn houses down, usually unintentionally. There was zero traffic enforcement so you could drink and drive until you hit the county line. Then the state government had enough of this shit, and because Democrats had run out of money Republicans suspended Detroit's democracy with a state-appointed Manager who got the city's finances better.One wonders how that was done. In NYC it was done by banning spray paint and creative financing. In Chicago it was done with newer factories. In Detriot, the auto industry was everything so it all died from 2010 to 2015. Litterally, a quarter of the city was abandoned and took out another quarter as utility services began to fail. Block by block, the Manager began the very expensive task of paying demolition crews to go block-by-block red tagging the remaining structures, fencing it off with razorwire, and then demolishing them. This at least got the city's water pipes and sewers working properly again, and the Manager's final solution was/is to require all new property buyers to buy in next to a main throughfare whose utilities are still maintained. Also it makes it much easier for the remaining police and fire to respond meaningfully to incidents.
>>216012075But there won't go back to what it was a century ago. Tesla won, self-driving electric cars are here and most of Detroit's hard parts manufacturing is no longer needed. All the electronics are made in sunbelt states like California and Texas. Chicago and Phidelphia have some but it's not scaled up enough, and new computer-driven machinery makes most of Detroit's industries defunct by comparison. Everybody wants CNC mills now because they are so much easier to use than a regular manual mill. Detriot cannot afford to upgrade and will continue slipping out as anyone with a brain gets out. Detroit's fastest growing industry is waste management, because as industrial sites are demolished by the state demolition authority they always find unlisted landfills full of toxic drums that have to be safely disposed of in Nevada. The lead pipes problem that killed Flint and partially Pontiac doesn't help either, regionally it is all bad news. Then Trump made it hard for Canadians to come in and spend money at the casino.The greatest example of this can be seen within Detroit itself. Everyone with money has a Tesla now and the Teslas park themselves. Cadillacs don't. Even though EVs are bad in snow for now, eventually this problem will be solved and that will be it for GM. They suppressed electric cars for a century and now everyone will drive them or take a train. And Michigan is trying to make the train electric, because Trump fucked with Canadian gas imports so gas prices are rising. I cannot understate just how Over it all is. Chicago survived.
>>216011558>move in and start renovating>after the 5th driveby shooting nearby at 3am come to a sudden realization as to why the previous owners just up and left
>>216012163The saddest part IMO is all the abandoned schools. You can just walk into them. Most have been closed for decades now, and cannot reopen because they are not ADA compliant, and extensively use asbestos, lead (for soldered electrical junctions) and lead paint. The state can't afford to tear them down because heavy demolition crews have higher priority industrial sites that are more toxic, but the residential demolition crews don't have the heavy machines or explosives to break the buildings. Most are fenced off now but nobody watches them. Inside you can see how things kind of looked in the 80s and 90s when the system was still running, all the old books are there referencing the USSR and the World Trade Center because Detroit's school district could never find a buyer for it's books or afford a warehouse for them. All the copper is gone but thieves left all the lighting ballasts, which are toxic hazardous waste. You can sit in the auditorium and guess what the last show was, and that attendance was in the single digits because everyone was black by then.I probably know what Romans must have felt around ad 400-500 after their empire had collapsed and Rome itself was no longer important. There is mostly ruins, people don't want to have children, and the children that do stick around are extremely stupid and just get into trouble. Eventually everyone moves out, moves into jail, or works for the state managing what's left.
>>216010932>Gary, IndianaMichael Jackson is from there.
>>216011506sounds like i hit the nail on the head lol
>>216012269And this goes for more recent school closures post-Manager. The state gave up trying to make the schools good, so they just lopped them off as they progressively failed. Teachers had their pensions broken and taken to pay the city's creditors, so they all went bankrupt and either moved away or died poor. Which is why Detroit still can't find any white teachers, and why only muslims from afghanistan want to live there because they have their own schools and don't pay school taxes (white people don't either since we live across the county line). Already it's pretty likely that the next generation of Detrioters will all speak pashto, if there is another generation.
>>216012075>Michigan is a shithole and so is ChicagoLet me guess, you voted for the orange guy
When people ask, how could Michigan vote Republican? Here's your answer:>Opened in 1895 as the Belle Isle Zoo, this now-overgrown site was rechristened The Detroit Children's Zoo in 1947, and then Safariland in the 1980's, adding an "African" architectural theme which remained until the park closed. Eventually, the site fell victim to corruption and economic woes, leaving the empty enclosures to be slowly reclaimed by the island's flora. The facility was home to the expected assortment of animals over the years, such as monkeys, snakes, and bears, but the zoo's most noteworthy residents were the herd of rare fallow deer that were native to Belle Isle, and were moved into the zoo as they were encroached on by the push of civilization. In 2002 the zoo delayed opening due to lack of attendance, after which then-mayor Kwame Kilpatrick decided to shutter the park permanently. >In 2004, a local campaign to reopen the zoo was undertaken and met with success. A bond was issued to finance the a renovation, but Mayor Kilpatrick used the funds to build an all new Detroit Zoo on the opposite end of the island using construction contractors he happened to have personal ties with. The old children's zoo was forgotten, and ended up just another abandoned structure in a city already rife with ruin. In 2008 the money ran out. Michigan is still in the post-money era. Chicago's politicians are more corrupt but they're also more competent and don't bet everything on one singular industry that California and Texas now control.
>>216012319No because even in 2016 I knew Trump couldn't fix Michigan, the damage that has occurred is too great to be fixed. This is a salvage operation. And, to President Biden's credit, he reopened Palisades which is a non-auto industry job. Either way, Detroit and Michigan were committed to Islamification and Arabification before Kabul fell, and the moment Kabul fell and the C-5s landed was the exact moment Detroit would no longer continue being what it was before. I'm not even mad about it, just sad that I can't even have my shitty 90s plastic crap Detroit back. I would have loved to own a GM electric car, but GM wouldn't even continue the Volt. The Volt was GM's answer to the Model 3 and it was ok. At every point GM demonstrated they could build an electric car then chose not to do so. It's frustrating.
>>216012471And I mean it by C-5s landing, offloading 400 Afghans, each in sequence. About 10. Now, 10 airplanes doesn't sound like much but please understand that most people coming from regular airplanes go back. The 4,000 or so people landed are staying permanently. I'm not mad, but the vibe shift was very evident because suddenly it was okay to talk about the jews and the occupation of palestine was the #1 campaign issue here for the first time in over a century. GM's Detroit workforce is less than the amount of Afghan refugees. A permanent change has happened.
>>216012527Why do americans even welcome muslims anyways. I thought you generally disliked them
>>216012542jews run america and actively subvert it. democracy is fake and gay
A different outcome was possible. Was.
>>216010932damn american suffering HARD they weren't lyingand they have to buy it with their meager 150k delivery driver salaries, i feel immense pain for them
>>216010932Can yall just post real fucking places for once?
